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Posted by: No Walking.6349

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Score DOES matter. The higher your score, the more you’ve contributed to the match. The more player’s you’ve killed, decaps and caps you’ve gotten, buffs you’ve captured. I’m sorry but anyone who says score doesn’t matter is full of it, and needs to play better.

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Posted by: meow one twenty.4376

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A tank can score zero points in a match by holding an already held location, prevent it from being captured in 1v1, 2v1, 3v1, etc. and because of their build never kill anyone for the eternity of the match. Did they not contribute? They got zero points, so they must suck.

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Posted by: Ithilwen.1529

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No, a higher score means you contributed in specific ways, namely standing static on points for example.

You get no points for defending off point or running interference while someone else gets the Tranquility commune.

Personal score is a measure of how much you did specific things, wether or not those things actually contributed much to your team’s victory.

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Posted by: Velimere.7685

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More specifically in the current bunker meta, the bunkers will generally have less score than the other class roles on the team. However, once again recall that this most certainly is a bunker meta and the team that out-sustains the other team generally wins by point-ticks. See the attached screen-shot for clarification. Soul and I played the bunker roles for our team and we are at the bottom of our respective side of the scoreboard. Dystoria also scored less than our DPS as well and was also playing a third point-holding support role.

Granted, you may not see this as much at lower divisions and lower levels of MMR.

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

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SCORE DOES MATTER

If the rest of the team has 100+ and you have 30, and it was a close game.

Definitely you are dead weight

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Posted by: Leohart.4610

Leohart.4610

Score definitely does matter.

I got 800 points on Capricorn by abusing cannon. Rofl.

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Posted by: kdaddy.5431

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score truly means nothing. As the screen print ive shown. The winning team has scored far less in personal score overall. Also ive have scored the lowest in personal score over and yet put out the most dps in the group.

You can choose what you want to believe but the idea that the more points you personally score actually means something is the illusion. While in fact you could be actually hurting your team by point hunting.

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Posted by: Alekt.5803

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Even if the score could matter in a given game, because sometimes they do, it is for the best if you simply ignore it.

It is in your best interest not to have people dual or tri-capping a point to gain score because of an imaginary competition.

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Posted by: twhite.9310

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The ONLY time personal score matters is when it’s a tie game. If I completely didn’t care about the team and only decapped points and left everyone in a 4v5 situation and had 100 points more than you guys does that mean I was the best on the team?

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Posted by: EdgarMTanaka.7291

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SCORE DOES MATTER

If the rest of the team has 100+ and you have 30, and it was a close game.

Definitely you are dead weight

Well typing everything with uppercase letters help almost as much as score does to a game.

So you are calling me dead weight when I defend home point from being captured through a whole match? Now usually I do get scores sometimes, I do this as there are players trying to take home point and I kill them but most of the time I get to fight Eles or other tanky builds and the fight can go on for almost the whole match if I don’t get help. But I know for sure that as long as I keep the cap point in my teams colour I am contributing to the team with or without any personal score. On the other hand for a tanky build trying to take the cap from an enemy player and who never succeeds to cap the point, well that player is a dead weight.

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Posted by: Browrain.7346

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I blame ANet for this. No Walking (OP) obviously has no idea what he’s talking about and is dead wrong, and I think personal score should be taken out of the game. It means nothing. But continue to triple cap home at the start of your game while your team wipes at mid… for the sake of… points.

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Posted by: Pimsley.3681

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Score DOES matter.

Since when?

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Posted by: Leohart.4610

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I blame ANet for this. No Walking (OP) obviously has no idea what he’s talking about and is dead wrong, and I think personal score should be taken out of the game. It means nothing. But continue to triple cap home at the start of your game while your team wipes at mid… for the sake of… points.

lmfao are you serious. Jesus christ some people are so overly sensitive. How hard is it to overlook this. It means nothing? It records the amount of points you get from taking points, reviving allies, and killing enemies. How does it mean nothing? You can argue that it doesn’t matter as far as capturing nodes go and winning the game, but it’s already implemented in the game. It’s just a simple reminder that says hey, you captured a node, revived an ally, stomped someone or assisted in stomping someone.

The only time anyone even gives a kitten about personal score is in hot joins, but even then, that’s not always the case (newbies trying the game/people testing a build/casuals)

What Alekt said.

The problem is that people just build this imaginary thought in their head that’s always trying to compare kitten size in one way or another. Scores, non-meta/meta builds/lag. Rofl.

This thread is a trip. Thanks for the read and laughs @OP.

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Posted by: Vapour.7348

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Score DOES matter.

Since when?

Remember matches where you help clear out the enemies at mid, then hustle back home to prevent a decap and then suddenly get +1’d by the enemies. As you conserve your vigor for making the one last evade before you are downed, all 4 members of your team are breathing through their mouths as they wait to cap mid.

You end up dying even if the enemy team is outnumbered because you helped win the team fight and 2-3 are at spawn. They now have both sides capped.

How could this happen? Because people like the OP ended up in your team.

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Posted by: Browrain.7346

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I blame ANet for this. No Walking (OP) obviously has no idea what he’s talking about and is dead wrong, and I think personal score should be taken out of the game. It means nothing. But continue to triple cap home at the start of your game while your team wipes at mid… for the sake of… points.

lmfao are you serious. Jesus christ some people are so overly sensitive. How hard is it to overlook this. It means nothing? It records the amount of points you get from taking points, reviving allies, and killing enemies. How does it mean nothing? You can argue that that doesn’t matter as far as capturing nodes go and winning the game, but it’s already implemented in the game. It’s just a simple reminder that says hey, you captured a node, revived an ally, stomped someone or assisted in stomping someone.

The only time anyone even gives a kitten about personal score is in hot joins, but even then, that’s not always the case (newbies trying the game/people testing a build/casuals)

What Alekt said.

The problem is that people just build this imaginary thought in their head that’s always trying to compare kitten size in one way or another. Scores, non-meta/meta builds/lag. Rofl.

This thread is a trip. Thanks for the read and laughs @OP.

Obviously, the OP cares about personal score. Newer players tend to think personal score is a reflection of how much you’ve contributed in the game. As someone else here already mentioned, you can bunk on a point 1v1 all game and not get any points. Does this make that person’s contribution any less than someone who roamed and back capped all game (receiving far more points)? I didn’t think so bud. If personal score is removed, there will be no more confusion about this for the new pvpers.

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

StickerHappy.8052

SCORE DOES MATTER

If the rest of the team has 100+ and you have 30, and it was a close game.

Definitely you are dead weight

Well typing everything with uppercase letters help almost as much as score does to a game.

So you are calling me dead weight when I defend home point from being captured through a whole match? Now usually I do get scores sometimes, I do this as there are players trying to take home point and I kill them but most of the time I get to fight Eles or other tanky builds and the fight can go on for almost the whole match if I don’t get help. But I know for sure that as long as I keep the cap point in my teams colour I am contributing to the team with or without any personal score. On the other hand for a tanky build trying to take the cap from an enemy player and who never succeeds to cap the point, well that player is a dead weight.

Please read first.

It would NOT be a close match if you bunked or defended the whole game.

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Posted by: Leohart.4610

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I blame ANet for this. No Walking (OP) obviously has no idea what he’s talking about and is dead wrong, and I think personal score should be taken out of the game. It means nothing. But continue to triple cap home at the start of your game while your team wipes at mid… for the sake of… points.

lmfao are you serious. Jesus christ some people are so overly sensitive. How hard is it to overlook this. It means nothing? It records the amount of points you get from taking points, reviving allies, and killing enemies. How does it mean nothing? You can argue that that doesn’t matter as far as capturing nodes go and winning the game, but it’s already implemented in the game. It’s just a simple reminder that says hey, you captured a node, revived an ally, stomped someone or assisted in stomping someone.

The only time anyone even gives a kitten about personal score is in hot joins, but even then, that’s not always the case (newbies trying the game/people testing a build/casuals)

What Alekt said.

The problem is that people just build this imaginary thought in their head that’s always trying to compare kitten size in one way or another. Scores, non-meta/meta builds/lag. Rofl.

This thread is a trip. Thanks for the read and laughs @OP.

Obviously, the OP cares about personal score. Newer players tend to think personal score is a reflection of how much you’ve contributed in the game. As someone else here already mentioned, you can bunk on a point 1v1 all game and not get any points. Does this make that person’s contribution any less than someone who roamed and back capped all game (receiving far more points)? I didn’t think so bud. If personal score is removed, there will be no more confusion about this for the new pvpers.

What the hell are you going on about? You’re just agreeing to my point lmao. I was referring to your statement in which you suggested that Anet removed the scores altogether. I never once stated that points mattered, so why are you implying that I would believe someone bunking with little points is worth less than someone that has a large sum of points? Kek. You’re reading into this a little too much. Confusion? It’s perfectly laid out for anyone pvping. The stats after a game tells you everything you need. How is that confusing? When this game launched, I strictly played PvP and not once did I hear anyone think it was confusing.

Refer to the second part of my post about hot joins.

The thing that you state “confuses” new pvpers is yes, in part because of the scores, but it’s mainly their own thought process. They think more points = kitten size and honestly, what can you do about that really, other than explaining to them how the game works, i.e. more points =/ 1337ness.

Edit: it’s obvious you’re confused on my stance on the matter. Allow me to refer to my own post, as kittenbaggy as it is. “how hard is it to overlook this.” That’s one. “The only time anyone even gives a kitten about personal score is in hot joins…” That’s two. Refer to what I see is the “problem”. That’s three. That should be enough clues for you to understand my stance.

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Posted by: Browrain.7346

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I blame ANet for this. No Walking (OP) obviously has no idea what he’s talking about and is dead wrong, and I think personal score should be taken out of the game. It means nothing. But continue to triple cap home at the start of your game while your team wipes at mid… for the sake of… points.

lmfao are you serious. Jesus christ some people are so overly sensitive. How hard is it to overlook this. It means nothing? It records the amount of points you get from taking points, reviving allies, and killing enemies. How does it mean nothing? You can argue that that doesn’t matter as far as capturing nodes go and winning the game, but it’s already implemented in the game. It’s just a simple reminder that says hey, you captured a node, revived an ally, stomped someone or assisted in stomping someone.

The only time anyone even gives a kitten about personal score is in hot joins, but even then, that’s not always the case (newbies trying the game/people testing a build/casuals)

What Alekt said.

The problem is that people just build this imaginary thought in their head that’s always trying to compare kitten size in one way or another. Scores, non-meta/meta builds/lag. Rofl.

This thread is a trip. Thanks for the read and laughs @OP.

Obviously, the OP cares about personal score. Newer players tend to think personal score is a reflection of how much you’ve contributed in the game. As someone else here already mentioned, you can bunk on a point 1v1 all game and not get any points. Does this make that person’s contribution any less than someone who roamed and back capped all game (receiving far more points)? I didn’t think so bud. If personal score is removed, there will be no more confusion about this for the new pvpers.

What the hell are you going on about? You’re just agreeing to my point lmao. I was referring to your statement in which you suggested that Anet removed the scores altogether. I never once stated that points mattered, so why are you implying that I would believe someone bunking with little points is worth less than someone that has a large sum of points? Kek. You’re reading into this a little too much. Confusion? It’s perfectly laid out for anyone pvping. The stats after a game tells you everything you need. How is that confusing? When this game launched, I strictly played PvP and not once did I hear anyone think it was confusing.

Refer to the second part of my post about hot joins.

The thing that you state “confuses” new pvpers is yes, in part because of the scores, but it’s mainly their own thought process. They think more points = kitten size and honestly, what can you do about that really, other than explaining to them how the game works, i.e. more points =/ 1337ness.

Edit: it’s obvious you’re confused on my stance on the matter. Allow me to refer to my own post, as kittenbaggy as it is. “how hard is it to overlook this.” That’s one. “The only time anyone even gives a kitten about personal score is in hot joins…” That’s two. Refer to what I see is the “problem”. That’s three. That should be enough clues for you to understand my stance.

I don’t know what else to tell you. It’s obviously an issue. The OP here is a perfect example. While you weren’t confused about personal score when you started pvp, many people were. I’ve seen it dozens of times.

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Posted by: Wolfey.3407

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As mentioned above, certain roles within a team do not reward points or as much points as those who run around and spam 1-2-3.

Tanks: There are situations to where tanks can go 5-10 minutes while facing only 1-2 people max. That’s 10 points.

Healers: You are not getting any credit for keeping your team alive during team fights… healing does not reward points or credit…. If you’re not able to dish out enough damage to count for tags in a fast enough pace, you aren’t going to get points till a team mate goes down for you to res them.

Generally speaking, those who get the most tags are the ones with the most points… doesn’t mean they are good at pvp… just means they are able to tag more people.

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Posted by: Leohart.4610

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I blame ANet for this. No Walking (OP) obviously has no idea what he’s talking about and is dead wrong, and I think personal score should be taken out of the game. It means nothing. But continue to triple cap home at the start of your game while your team wipes at mid… for the sake of… points.

lmfao are you serious. Jesus christ some people are so overly sensitive. How hard is it to overlook this. It means nothing? It records the amount of points you get from taking points, reviving allies, and killing enemies. How does it mean nothing? You can argue that that doesn’t matter as far as capturing nodes go and winning the game, but it’s already implemented in the game. It’s just a simple reminder that says hey, you captured a node, revived an ally, stomped someone or assisted in stomping someone.

The only time anyone even gives a kitten about personal score is in hot joins, but even then, that’s not always the case (newbies trying the game/people testing a build/casuals)

What Alekt said.

The problem is that people just build this imaginary thought in their head that’s always trying to compare kitten size in one way or another. Scores, non-meta/meta builds/lag. Rofl.

This thread is a trip. Thanks for the read and laughs @OP.

Obviously, the OP cares about personal score. Newer players tend to think personal score is a reflection of how much you’ve contributed in the game. As someone else here already mentioned, you can bunk on a point 1v1 all game and not get any points. Does this make that person’s contribution any less than someone who roamed and back capped all game (receiving far more points)? I didn’t think so bud. If personal score is removed, there will be no more confusion about this for the new pvpers.

What the hell are you going on about? You’re just agreeing to my point lmao. I was referring to your statement in which you suggested that Anet removed the scores altogether. I never once stated that points mattered, so why are you implying that I would believe someone bunking with little points is worth less than someone that has a large sum of points? Kek. You’re reading into this a little too much. Confusion? It’s perfectly laid out for anyone pvping. The stats after a game tells you everything you need. How is that confusing? When this game launched, I strictly played PvP and not once did I hear anyone think it was confusing.

Refer to the second part of my post about hot joins.

The thing that you state “confuses” new pvpers is yes, in part because of the scores, but it’s mainly their own thought process. They think more points = kitten size and honestly, what can you do about that really, other than explaining to them how the game works, i.e. more points =/ 1337ness.

Edit: it’s obvious you’re confused on my stance on the matter. Allow me to refer to my own post, as kittenbaggy as it is. “how hard is it to overlook this.” That’s one. “The only time anyone even gives a kitten about personal score is in hot joins…” That’s two. Refer to what I see is the “problem”. That’s three. That should be enough clues for you to understand my stance.

I don’t know what else to tell you. It’s obviously an issue. The OP here is a perfect example. While you weren’t confused about personal score when you started pvp, many people were. I’ve seen it dozens of times.

Honestly, I think some players are just a little too hung up on minor problems. Yeah I agree that the OP is confused, but like I said, what can you do but inform them? He just didn’t take into account bunker builds.

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Posted by: deda.8302

deda.8302

SCORE DOES MATTER

If the rest of the team has 100+ and you have 30, and it was a close game.

Definitely you are dead weight

Well typing everything with uppercase letters help almost as much as score does to a game.

So you are calling me dead weight when I defend home point from being captured through a whole match? Now usually I do get scores sometimes, I do this as there are players trying to take home point and I kill them but most of the time I get to fight Eles or other tanky builds and the fight can go on for almost the whole match if I don’t get help. But I know for sure that as long as I keep the cap point in my teams colour I am contributing to the team with or without any personal score. On the other hand for a tanky build trying to take the cap from an enemy player and who never succeeds to cap the point, well that player is a dead weight.

Please read first.

It would NOT be a close match if you bunked or defended the whole game.

But it would,if for example you have identical situation on far and mid is undecided

You can have almost a tie with 2 players contributing most are side bunkers ,while game is lost in mid fight.
Just watch recent esl and you will see its all about bunkering ,lol

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Posted by: Wolfs Shadow.7234

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Score DOES matter. The higher your score, the more you’ve contributed to the match. The more player’s you’ve killed, decaps and caps you’ve gotten, buffs you’ve captured. I’m sorry but anyone who says score doesn’t matter is full of it, and needs to play better.

A person’s individual points or score does not matter in slightest. Everyone could have a maximum of 10 points and still win just by holding the caps they control whether it be 3-0 cap or 2-1 cap.

The fact that you ended the way you did is very disappointing. Especially when this thread was never created around a question, but an assumption.

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Posted by: Wolfs Shadow.7234

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No, a higher score means you contributed in specific ways, namely standing static on points for example.

You get no points for defending off point or running interference while someone else gets the Tranquility commune.

Personal score is a measure of how much you did specific things, wether or not those things actually contributed much to your team’s victory.

All correct, but adding healing too. Healing doesn’t apply to the points either.

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Posted by: Aidenwolf.5964

Aidenwolf.5964

SCORE DOES MATTER

If the rest of the team has 100+ and you have 30, and it was a close game.

Definitely you are dead weight

Absolute nonsense. You’re the kind of player I get grouped with in this shambles of a tourney, the kind who shouts without knowing. Bunkers will almost always have low scores but without them you’re not winning. Also, keeping far decapped all match is more valuable than stomping 10 players but will not generate a high individual score.

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Posted by: Akikaze.1307

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In most scenarios, personal score doesn’t matter. However there will be cases where a match outcome can be judged from a player’s individual score. I’m sure we’ve all encountered matches where there’s that one person kept going to a mid point where there’s 2-3 enemies, only to get slaughtered, possibly ending the match on 0.

Even if you play as bunker, and held a point for the entire game, good teammates certainly should have rotated and helped score a kill. Thus having a low score is perfectly reasonable, having a 0 score can be questionable.

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Posted by: Aidenwolf.5964

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In most scenarios, personal score doesn’t matter. However there will be cases where a match outcome can be judged from a player’s individual score. I’m sure we’ve all encountered matches where there’s that one person kept going to a mid point where there’s 2-3 enemies, only to get slaughtered, possibly ending the match on 0.

Even if you play as bunker, and held a point for the entire game, good teammates certainly should have rotated and helped score a kill. Thus having a low score is perfectly reasonable, having a 0 score can be questionable.

Zero is certainly a red flag as are low scores in general but when you see a decap engi kept far neutral all match vs an auramancer that zero score won the match for you.

I won a match doing just that, and had some idiot on my team call me out for having no points (I had 10 I believe) and the 3 others in my team shouted him down. Team play on conquest maps is centered around caps anyone saying otherwise I hope never to be paired with.

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Posted by: Israel.7056

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What do you mean by “matters?”

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Posted by: Locuz.2651

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Score DOES matter. The higher your score, the more you’ve contributed to the match. The more player’s you’ve killed, decaps and caps you’ve gotten, buffs you’ve captured. I’m sorry but anyone who says score doesn’t matter is full of it, and needs to play better.

That focus on personal points is often counterproductive. Low rated players often play around having a high personal score. But focussing to heavily on a personal score can literally cause losses more often than not.

- Going for bosses early on forrest and making their teammates at mid go 2v4 for 30+ seconds.
- Running back to “help” dps down a player i downed allready and was bleeding out at close instead of helping on other parts of the map.
- Zerging/ sticking to 4vs1 or 2 fights mostly – forcing teammates like myselve to keep caps vs 2-3.
- Staying in won fights for ages stomping/capping with multiple ppl, while the opposing team is allready on their way to or allready fighting on other nodes.

Dont get me wrong capping points and killing players and bosses is essential. But those personal points quite often dont reflect the impact players have on a game. Its often that guy on close that fought 1v2 for a short while that wins you the game and allows to win on mid (since you are 4v3 due to him). Stuff u dont see on the scoreboard.

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Posted by: nacario.9417

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You also dont get score by doing great tactical teamdecisions, either by action or map chat, which turns the tide.

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Posted by: Shylock.4653

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Score DOES matter. The higher your score, the more you’ve contributed to the match. The more player’s you’ve killed, decaps and caps you’ve gotten, buffs you’ve captured. I’m sorry but anyone who says score doesn’t matter is full of it, and needs to play better.

You get personal score for many things including very bad and silly things like double- and multi-capping. So playing for personal score often results in very bad play. You should play for the team and anet should have removed personal score long ago.

But maybe I am doing it wrong. Maybe I should stay on a point while others are capping it to get personal score and not helping out on other points.

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Posted by: naphack.9346

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Guys, points clearly matter.
Which is why I always try to get ferocity even when there is a fight going on. Double or triple capping increases the sum of the personal scores within your team, which clearly is a good thing.
Also teleporting in just to tag a downed player and rushing the enemy treb are good ways to increase your personal score. Also I miss the canon on capricorn and I want Skyhammer back in ranked so I can boost my personal score some more.

On a more serious note, points say the most about a dedicated dps/roam character.
If your thief keeps running all over the map, jumping into random fights, yet only ends the game with 30 points, there is something wrong with that thief.
The thing that’s wrong is probably that he brought a thief to a bunker fight, but that’s another story.
Bottom line, any bunker will almost certainly end the game with a low score and any semi-bunker can, depending on play style and outcome, also end the game with a very low score despite doing all the heavy lifting for the team.

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Posted by: Galandil.9641

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Guys, personal score does matter.

In the sense that as soon as anyone starts trashing teammates about it as if it was a metric of personal skill and contribution to the team, you just spotted another newbie who you’d rather have on the opposing team than in yours. :>

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Posted by: azyume.6321

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Yes, playing for personal score does matter, however the reason you got it wrong because it is usually responsible for a team loss!

When players are so focused on increase their personal score, they tunnel vision and have 0 awareness.

Here let me give you a nice example:

Legacy of Foefire map, I am playing my scrapper and my team decided to do the classic home + mid intro. We got home capped, far was capped by blue team and we had a 3v3 fight in mid until the other 2 came to add.

My team started to die on mid and the thief went to decap far to try to even up things while the others respawned. It turned into a 3v2 fight in mid in favor for blue team since they had sent someone to decap our home and another to fight the thief at far which would grant them 3 cap if successful. At this point, the other guy on my team fighting at mid also died and I was the only one holding the still neutral mid and if I left the fight to defend home, they would get full control and faster rotations which surely would make them push with 3 or more to our home then snowballing to mid.

One would think those guys after respawning, would retake our home or far or both and hold them or, at the very least, help me fight for mid after securing one point, but oh I was so wrong. The thief couldn’t stand on a 3v2 fight because of the AoE’s so he went to do 1v1 on home and my team decided to do a 3v1 at far leaving me to my luck alone in mid. I was so focused on not losing that fight that I managed to stay alive even against the odds hoping my team would get the 2 caps.

They surely did but moved to mid and once again, they died in a team fight. They kept doing that the whole match, 3 men capping far then dying at mid. I didn’t had time to type when was under such heavy pressure in still a neutral mid, tried to ping in the map for them but to no effect, they ignored. They didn’t even bothered to hold far even having the numbers for it nor to help the thief secure our home. They would cap far, come and die at mid, rinse and repeat.

At the end of the match, I had a score of 40 and died only once on the very last minute when blue team finally made a full push at mid while I was the lone defender and couldn’t disengage fast enough. My team minus the thief accused me for losing the match due to my low score. Would you agree with them, OP?

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

SMH…..sorry but people who focus purely on personal score in SoloQ type games are most likely the ones responsible for losing the match. Double/triple capping home because “I want the points”.

Many times ive helped down a player and left my teammate to stomp and cap, while i ran to another fight.

Of course you have the example of the bunker than buffs/heals allies or condi clears and bunkers a node 1v2 so that team mates can fight and capture other nodes. So with his lower score he didnt contribute?

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Posted by: Pimsley.3681

Pimsley.3681

Nah, OP cant be serious. This is a troll thread.

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Posted by: Velimere.7685

Velimere.7685

Nah, OP cant be serious. This is a troll thread.

He’s alluded to this as his opinion to me on various occasions in-game and over comms.

Anyone who says Zerk is the average Joe build is an average Joe.

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Posted by: Mysticjedi.6053

Mysticjedi.6053

Many times ive helped down a player and left my teammate to stomp and cap, while i ran to another fight.

^ This is what should be done. The only point value that matters is 500. The game doesn’t account for the all the roles that can be played and should be played in a round.

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Posted by: Blue Hare.8612

Blue Hare.8612

Personal score matters? I beg to differ, I have won matches in witch the highest score in our team has been lower than the lowest on the enemy team.

Plus, if I get better score with a thief than an ally bunker mesmer, there gotta be something wrong with the scoring.

no wait, actually…

HEY GUYS, I HAVE DISCOVERED A NEW META. TEEF OP, ALL PLAY TEEF, GET HIGH PERSONAL SCORE AND WIN. TEEF FOR VICTORY

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Posted by: dank.3680

dank.3680

Many times ive helped down a player and left my teammate to stomp and cap, while i ran to another fight.

Did that in a match last night, +1’d downed enemy just off the node, left my teamate with full hp and the cap taken so I could go help mid. 30s later I’m being screamed at because somehow a 100% hp DH died to a downed ranger.

#MAGSWAG: All class player. XOXO

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

Many times ive helped down a player and left my teammate to stomp and cap, while i ran to another fight.

Did that in a match last night, +1’d downed enemy just off the node, left my teamate with full hp and the cap taken so I could go help mid. 30s later I’m being screamed at because somehow a 100% hp DH died to a downed ranger.

Pets more powerful than warrior and thief combined!!!

Also BUFF DH!!!

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Posted by: IsilZha.3608

IsilZha.3608

SCORE DOES MATTER

If the rest of the team has 100+ and you have 30, and it was a close game.

Definitely you are dead weight

Absolute nonsense. You’re the kind of player I get grouped with in this shambles of a tourney, the kind who shouts without knowing. Bunkers will almost always have low scores but without them you’re not winning. Also, keeping far decapped all match is more valuable than stomping 10 players but will not generate a high individual score.

Just to really throw support onto this, I’m going to quote myself from reddit:

s it stands, the following will get you significantly more personal score:

If you stand and successfully defend a point, you may get a kill, they may flee. So you might get 0 to 15 points. The entire time that point is constantly generating points towards victory.

However, if you intentionally let them take the point, then spend time fighting off it and get the kill, you get 15 for killing off point (because for some reason you get more points for making kills off point), another 10 for neutralizing the point and then another 10 for fully taking it, giving you 35 personal score. But that is an abjectly worse strategy. You gave up a bunch of ticks to the other team. You get better personal score for playing a losing strategy.

And of course, you get plenty of these:

http://i.imgur.com/pBO9D9N.png

Note that their player with the lowest score, had a higher score than our highest (which happened to be me) but the game wasn’t even close – we won by a landslide. I remember this game, too – I recall even noting mid-match that the other team was more concerned with personal score kitten and padding kill counts than winning the game. Exactly like what the OP described as “contributing.”

“To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.”

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Posted by: hackks.3687

hackks.3687

Score DOES matter. The higher your score, the more you’ve contributed to the match. The more player’s you’ve killed, decaps and caps you’ve gotten, buffs you’ve captured. I’m sorry but anyone who says score doesn’t matter is full of it, and needs to play better.

Your personal score does not matter. It won’t win you the match, it won’t even factor into the final outcome. The only score that matters is the team score, which decides if you win or lose.

Ask yourself this: How is it that my team scores the most points? Is it kills? Is it capturing objectives? Is it maximizing the secondary objectives?

Answer: none of them. you win by holding capture points. Which is also something you don’t receive a personal score for. Which is why your personal does not matter.

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Posted by: bloodpyrope.8630

bloodpyrope.8630

A wise man once told me:

The person with the highest score is a horrible selfish person.
Person in 2nd is an amazing player.
Person in 3rd is mediocre
Person in 4th is godawful and being carried
Person in 5th sacrificed the most.

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

Unless you are sitting on a point all game as an excuse to score low score means something. This is litterally the number 1 excuse for players that say score doesn’t matter. OH I sat on a point all game thats why I have 10 points. Woopdeedoo.

My opinion its not the score system that is flawed its the point system as not only what you are doing is lame and isn’t really pvp it afking at best.

It also depends on the map. If you kill like 4 animals and are good with stealing that 100 points and that is going to make your score higher. If you also decapped and held points as well as spiked numerous players you contributed a ton.

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warrior and we’re the best class” Eugene

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Score DOES matter. The higher your score, the more you’ve contributed to the match. The more player’s you’ve killed, decaps and caps you’ve gotten, buffs you’ve captured. I’m sorry but anyone who says score doesn’t matter is full of it, and needs to play better.

Because it doesn’t necessarily represent how useful you were. If you have a more defensive role you usually also have less opportunities (sometime FAR less) to score but you might have been in large part responsible for your team success.

Personal score is cute but flawed if used the way some wants to use it.

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

haven’t heard back from OP, don’t think this went how he expected…

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

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Unless you are sitting on a point all game as an excuse to score low score means something.

…that you might think that someone holding a point all game is doing it primarily to have an excuse for low score tells a lot about your pvp experience. The idea that you can do it by “AFKing at best” says even more.

Actions, not words.
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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Unless you are sitting on a point all game as an excuse to score low score means something. This is litterally the number 1 excuse for players that say score doesn’t matter. OH I sat on a point all game thats why I have 10 points. Woopdeedoo.

My opinion its not the score system that is flawed its the point system as not only what you are doing is lame and isn’t really pvp it afking at best.

It also depends on the map. If you kill like 4 animals and are good with stealing that 100 points and that is going to make your score higher. If you also decapped and held points as well as spiked numerous players you contributed a ton.

Nah, it is not an excuse it is a fact. It really depend on circumstances. If you tank a point and hardly no one ever come your way, or plenty come your way but none goes down in all the exchanges, your scores will sux but you did your job.

I definitely see a significant difference in my score, all things being equal, when I camp a point and when I don’t. It can be a huge difference. Let’s not make stats say what they don’t.

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

Unless you are sitting on a point all game as an excuse to score low score means something.

…that you might think that someone holding a point all game is doing it primarily to have an excuse for low score tells a lot about your pvp experience. The idea that you can do it by “AFKing at best” says even more.

+1 lol…..yup Warlord’s post reveals a lot.

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Posted by: XGhoul.7426

XGhoul.7426

The fact that the OP managed to reel in 40+ responses in an obvious troll thread, hats off to him, 10/10.