Guild Wars 2

Based on a similar thead in engineer forum I like to know the top 3 enemies for your class.

For me:

Class: Engineer

Worst enemy:
1: MM Necro
2: Condtion Necro
3: Spirit Ranger

Class: Elementalist

Worst Enemy:
1. All other classes

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

Class: Elementalist

Worst Enemy:
1. All other classes

came here for this

Class: Elementalist

Worst enemy:
1. S/P thief
2. Tanky condition engineer (grenades implied)
3. Ranger, maybe? I dunno.

Swagg.9236:

Class: Elementalist

Worst enemy:
1. S/P thief
2. Tanky condition engineer (grenades implied)
3. Ranger, maybe? I dunno.

3. Tanky stun warriors, personally.

Class: Thief

1. Tanky condition engineer
2. S/S Longbow Condi tank warrior
3. Another Thief

Currently playing Warrior.

Worst enemy

1. A well played Thief, just can’t beat them.

Slaughter everything else, pretty much…

Class: Engineer

1. Burst Thieves
2. Fresh Air Elementalist (good ones)
3. Necros with heavy condi bursts and fear chains

…basically anything that can deal decent damage or conditions quickly.

Class: Ranger

Worst Enemies (1v1)

1. Minion Mancer
2. PU mesmer

Engineer

1. septer/focus ele
2. good Hambow wars
3. Terror necro

hard matchups:
condition/stealth mesmer, good ranger, good condition wars

Class: thief

1. engis (any kind), they just make me want to uninstall this game every single match :/
2. necros
3. zerker guardians (yeah, i know lol, but ironically good zerker guardian will drop my thief w/o breaking sweat :/)

tbh, unless i play perfectly or enemy makes a lot of mistakes pretty much every class is big trouble… dueling thieves are not great for team fights and team thief build is not so great for dueling so go figure.. kind of similar to bunker guardians that probably won’t kill anyone 1v1 but are great for team pvp

@Cynz what build are you running ? i am under the impression that you could improve your 1v1 experience by tweaking your setup a bit.

btw Class: condi necro.

1. s/p thieves
2. zerker warriors
3. s/d eles

Oddly enough s/d thieves aren’t as problematic as they used to be now that infiltrator strike is not a free out of the jail card anymore, s/p thieves on the other hand can easily wear you down before you start having your impact on the teamfight.

Zerker warriors can be quite troublesome during teamfights with many particle effects going on because if you don’t notice their earthshaker you often have an hard time recovering from it, second place because a good guardian in your team can help mitigate this. Also, berserker stance.

Eles are ranked third because their burst can get a necro off guard and with scepter (obsidian flesh) if you get downed you will also get stomped.

Class: MM Necro

Worst Enemy:
1. Mesmers that moa me
2. AoE spam engis
3. Other MM necros/ Spirit Rangers

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

Class: Thief

1. Tanky condition engineer
2. S/S Longbow Condi tank warrior
3. Another Thief

^ Agreed with this, but I’d put either PU mesmer or DPS Guard in spot 3.

Ranger:

1) MM necro
2) Bugged chaos storm mesmers
3) Other necros

Engineer:

1. Condi Necro
2. Good thieves
3. Good Warriors

Ranger:

1) Mesmer
2) Stun lock Warrior
3) Minion Master

Class: Bunker Guard

1) Condi Necro
2) Condi Engi
3) Others with a good distribution of poison.

Class Condi Necro

1) Warriors
2) Automated Response Engineers
3) Top tier thieves.

Class : teef

1) one shot eles
2) condi engi
3) necros

No matter what profession I play, being it an Elementalist, Warrior, Thief, Ranger or Guardian the only class that will always beat me regardless of skill is Necromancer.

Class:Power necro

1)Good thieves (bad ones are easy)
2)Good Mesmer (bad ones are easy)
3) Good Engis (engis generally are annoying)

Underwater i feel like a god and kill every class.

Me: Power necro

condi warriors
pu mesmer
good d/d eles, the most enjoyable to fight

10/30/30/0/0
Full Zerker Guardian : sword/focus @ scepter/torch

1) mm necros
2) ham bow warriors
3) beastmaster ranger

Elxdark.9702:

Class : teef

1) one shot eles
2) condi engi
3) necros

Eles shouldn’t be on your list as thief… dodge burst they unload and you win lol

Class: Warrior

1. MM Necros (Belongs strictly in PVE)
2. Bunker Gaurdians
3. OP Mesmers that think they’re (good)

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

Class: Elementalist

Worst Enemy:
1. All other classes

The list is incomplete, I think.

Worst Enemy:
1. All other classes
2. And their pets

LuRkEr.9462:

Elxdark.9702:

Class : teef

1) one shot eles
2) condi engi
3) necros

Eles shouldn’t be on your list as thief… dodge burst they unload and you win lol

Yea, I’m surprised to see that up there too. Bunker eles can be tough for a lot of thief builds, but generally the glassy eles are some of my favorite targets.

Also, I have a feeling that if trap ranger ever made a strong comeback into the meta, they’d be at the top of a lot of thief’s lists.

Class: Any

Worst Enemy: None

This doesn’t mean that I win all the time. I certainly don’t. It means that it doesn’t matter what class attacks me, because the majority all attack the same way (as if they are fighting the test golems in HotM). They only think about what their class does and not what mine does. They seem genuinely shocked when I fight back.

I’ve seen thieves attack an mm necro like it was a glass cannon mesmer. Warriors trying to stun lock mesmers. Berserker guardians standing still trying to unload their skills on a warrior. I flatten these players in seconds regardless of what class they play.

When I do face someone who considers what my class does, the battle becomes interesting. Sure I may lose, but I have a lot more fun. Even the much feared mm necros aren’t a challenge if you know what you are up against. Certainly there are some classes that are more difficult than others depending on what I am playing, but I’ve found nothing unbeatable.

Don’t expect to kill every class as if they were test golems. Too many complaint threads are about classes people believe that they should beat. That’s not how it works.

Class: Ranger
Worst Enemy:
1vs1:
- Engineer
group fights:
- a good Mesmer (kinda rare to see a good one)
- a good Necro
- Thief (The really good ones)

Class: Warrior.
Worst Enemy:
- A good S/D Thief.

DaShi.1368:

Class: Any

Worst Enemy: None

This doesn’t mean that I win all the time. I certainly don’t. It means that it doesn’t matter what class attacks me, because the majority all attack the same way (as if they are fighting the test golems in HotM). They only think about what their class does and not what mine does. They seem genuinely shocked when I fight back.

I’ve seen thieves attack an mm necro like it was a glass cannon mesmer. Warriors trying to stun lock mesmers. Berserker guardians standing still trying to unload their skills on a warrior. I flatten these players in seconds regardless of what class they play.

When I do face someone who considers what my class does, the battle becomes interesting. Sure I may lose, but I have a lot more fun. Even the much feared mm necros aren’t a challenge if you know what you are up against. Certainly there are some classes that are more difficult than others depending on what I am playing, but I’ve found nothing unbeatable.

Don’t expect to kill every class as if they were test golems. Too many complaint threads are about classes people believe that they should beat. That’s not how it works.

Kinda my attitude..don’t play the profession you’re facing, play the weapon they are using. Ignore what warrior’s can do and instead focus on what you expect hammer to do. Ignore what thieve’s can do..instead be concerned with what their dagger/sword can do.

DaShi and CntrlAltDefeat that’s all fun and dandy until you are a D/P thief trying to get that tanky condi engi of your point with no one to help.

Thats how I based my list. On my actual playing, I won’t bother to 1v1 matchups I cannot win and I will keep doing my job which is to roam and creating outnumbered situations.

Class: S/D Thief

Nemesis

• Spirit Ranger – Getting one down is hard enough and then they just self-rezz. WTF?
• Bunker Engineer – Just won’t die and still kills you in 30 seconds by spaming skills.
• Minion Master Necromancers – Normal Necros are hard enough, but Minion Masters…omg.

DaShi.1368:

Class: Any

Worst Enemy: None

This doesn’t mean that I win all the time. I certainly don’t. It means that it doesn’t matter what class attacks me, because the majority all attack the same way (as if they are fighting the test golems in HotM). They only think about what their class does and not what mine does. They seem genuinely shocked when I fight back.

I’ve seen thieves attack an mm necro like it was a glass cannon mesmer. Warriors trying to stun lock mesmers. Berserker guardians standing still trying to unload their skills on a warrior. I flatten these players in seconds regardless of what class they play.

When I do face someone who considers what my class does, the battle becomes interesting. Sure I may lose, but I have a lot more fun. Even the much feared mm necros aren’t a challenge if you know what you are up against. Certainly there are some classes that are more difficult than others depending on what I am playing, but I’ve found nothing unbeatable.

Don’t expect to kill every class as if they were test golems. Too many complaint threads are about classes people believe that they should beat. That’s not how it works.

I would agree with you, but I can’t.

GW2 classes simply don’t have the tool-set to adapt their play-style.

A S/D Thief for example is good at one thing. Spaming dodges while pressuring the target. That doesn’t change in any case. He’s going to fight a Mesmer the same way he’d fight a Necro or a Warrior….because that’s all the class is good at.

Sure you might look to avoid specific moves but the general play-style doesn’t change. And the same applies to every build. A Warrior will cycle through his attacks the same way against a Mesmer as he would against an Engineer. Because if cooldowns are your only limitation then there’s no reason not to use it.

Again you might aim for specific abilities, but again the general play-style doesn’t change.

And this is why I laugh whenever people think GW2 has remotely skillful class combat. What it has is a number of 2-3 trick ponies running around trying to see which trick can counter the other’s.

Class: Med Guard (and sometimes condi guard, what can I say, I must be a masochist)

Hate List:

1: Bomb Bunker Nade Condi Cheese rolled in cheese stuffed with cheese placed in a cheese wrapper and slapped between two cheese buns engi. God I hate them.

2: Minions. Oh yeah, and I suppose the necro they brought along with them.

3: Mesmers. I don’t even care what kind. They are not just annoying, they were designed to be annoying.

LuRkEr.9462:

Elxdark.9702:

Class : teef

1) one shot eles
2) condi engi
3) necros

Eles shouldn’t be on your list as thief… dodge burst they unload and you win lol

I know most eles are dumb and easy, but one day I encountered a wild ele who killed me in 0.5 sec.

So that’s why I put “one shot eles” not eles.

I repeat, I didn’t even see what thing killed me, it was like I was running to decap far I see the ele coming (1200 range aprox) I avoid him(worst decision of my life) then I’m dead.

The good thing it’s I know how to deal with them now.

Yes, some Eles like to exploit their Fire Greatsword for instant-gibbing players and Trebuchets.

I’ve encountered one of them too. What tehy do is use Sword 4 and then reverse teleport so that all the fire-trail is in one spot. That deals something like 20.000 DPS and can kill any Thief and even a Trebuchet in a second.

OnlyFear.9165:

Class: Warrior

1. MM Necros (Belongs strictly in PVE)
2. Bunker Gaurdians
3. OP Mesmers that think they’re (good)

Decent ish warriors can beat necros and I’d hope that the top 5% at least can beat any mesmer. Because let’s be real here, mesmers are literally just pve fights, all of their damage comes from ai movement.

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

Class: Elementalist

Worst Enemy:
1. All other classes

Lies. It is warrior, ranger, thief, engineer, mesmer, necro and guardian.

Oh wait…

All Classes:
1. Condi or MM Necro
Done!! Just kidding…
Mesmer:
1.Perma invis thiefs
1.Engineer

PU Mesmer:
1) Good lockdown mesmer
2) S/P Thief
3) PU Mesmer (Not hard, just a PITA beyond bunker v. bunker)

Lockdown mesmer:
1) S/P Thief
2) Bunker engie
3) Warrior (dat stability)

Shatter mesmer:
1) S/P thief
2) bunker anything
3) PU mesmer

Phantasm mesmer:
1) Any thief build
2) bunker engie
3) minion builds (dem meatshields)

Class: Mesmer (PU/Condi – sorry guys I have fun with that spec…)

1) Engineers
2) Thief
3) Necro

And there is always the occasional ‘special’ player that annihilates you with a class you almost always win against (still traumatized by a ranger I met in hotjoin 2 weeks ago…)

Class: Elementalist (arcane s/d bursting)

Anything that moves and has eyes.

Darnacus.5961:

Class: Mesmer (PU/Condi – sorry guys I have fun with that spec…)

1) Engineers
2) Thief
3) Necro

And there is always the occasional ‘special’ player that annihilates you with a class you almost always win against (still traumatized by a ranger I met in hotjoin 2 weeks ago…)

This spec after Dec 10 is actually really good in comb with the new healing skill, thats the one i use too

Dee Jay.2460:

That deals something like 20.000 DPS and can kill any Thief in a second.

yes, given that they’re afk or braindead

Dee Jay.2460:

DaShi.1368:

Class: Any

Worst Enemy: None

This doesn’t mean that I win all the time. I certainly don’t. It means that it doesn’t matter what class attacks me, because the majority all attack the same way (as if they are fighting the test golems in HotM). They only think about what their class does and not what mine does. They seem genuinely shocked when I fight back.

I’ve seen thieves attack an mm necro like it was a glass cannon mesmer. Warriors trying to stun lock mesmers. Berserker guardians standing still trying to unload their skills on a warrior. I flatten these players in seconds regardless of what class they play.

When I do face someone who considers what my class does, the battle becomes interesting. Sure I may lose, but I have a lot more fun. Even the much feared mm necros aren’t a challenge if you know what you are up against. Certainly there are some classes that are more difficult than others depending on what I am playing, but I’ve found nothing unbeatable.

Don’t expect to kill every class as if they were test golems. Too many complaint threads are about classes people believe that they should beat. That’s not how it works.

I would agree with you, but I can’t.

GW2 classes simply don’t have the tool-set to adapt their play-style.

A S/D Thief for example is good at one thing. Spaming dodges while pressuring the target. That doesn’t change in any case. He’s going to fight a Mesmer the same way he’d fight a Necro or a Warrior….because that’s all the class is good at.

Sure you might look to avoid specific moves but the general play-style doesn’t change. And the same applies to every build. A Warrior will cycle through his attacks the same way against a Mesmer as he would against an Engineer. Because if cooldowns are your only limitation then there’s no reason not to use it.

Again you might aim for specific abilities, but again the general play-style doesn’t change.

And this is why I laugh whenever people think GW2 has remotely skillful class combat. What it has is a number of 2-3 trick ponies running around trying to see which trick can counter the other’s.

Yeah? Then instead of using S/D Thief as your example please try again with D/P. D/P changes it’s playstyle according to the encounter and that’s is why its interesting enough for me to keep playing it.

@Lachanche: i play caed’s build basically, dueling thieves don’t contribute as much to team pvp

What I’ve learned from this thread:
Engies counter everything
Brb. Rolling engie.

Class: Warrior GS-Sw/Sh
1. Engineer
2. Hambow warrior

Necromancers that throw my very own conditions back at me.

I am engineer.