Guild Wars 2

This rune is way over the top. 2x 4 set boni is not in line with other runes and 7% dmg under the effect of might is simply too much. With the recent sigil changes everyone has access to perma migth and this synergy is simply broken. Please stop this power creep cause the only way to face 25 migth glass cannons is simply to kill them quickly cause there is no way they can be outlasted by any sustained build.

If you made different experiences please share them with me, but that´s how i feel about this rune.

>community spends two years suggesting a zerker dps meta is the most fun for spvp
>Anet makes steps to implement this
>players complain their ‘sustain’ builds can’t hold up to zerker builds.

Does this mean the bunker meta is over and people can start playing this game properly again?

There are players of all niches, not just dps zerker and those builds using strength runes would still be viable with different sets of runes / nerfed strength runes.

The goal can´t be to have a dps zerker meta, the goal must be to open up all variations and strategies to have similar chances if played correctly.

well, imho right now is more fun then bunker all over the place, plus bunker is still viable. not like teams stop bringing them anymore, dont they.

but i agree strength is too good when comparing to other runes, but if the meta is caused by it, i prefer it to stay.

Strength runes do seem over the top, but several other runes are, at least IMO, a bit OP.

As for the meta implications, I kinda like the new meta, for now…

hmmm strength rune really is that powerful?
perhaps i should try it out and see for myself.
i have been using pack runes at the moment.

hmmm perhaps 5.95% more crit chance (125 precision from pack runes) is less useful when compared against 7% more damage under might.

Oh no condi bunker got instagibbed . how sad

a t s e.9614:

Oh no condi bunker got instagibbed . how sad

Thx for your constructive feedback, I´m not playing a condition class tho.

These are exactly the kinds of runes we need to counter the condi spam meta. Because of these runes, power builds are being looked at again as a means to neutralize the favor towards condi builds. You now see more GS warrirors, power engis, and power necros. It’s not the perfect solution, but it is a step.

I disagree entirely with your post.

Let’s talk about nerfing Balthazar runes instead….

RockSteady.7123:

These are exactly the kinds of runes we need to counter the condi spam meta. Because of these runes, power builds are being looked at again as a means to neutralize the favor towards condi builds. You now see more GS warrirors, power engis, and power necros. It’s not the perfect solution, but it is a step.

I disagree entirely with your post.

you wont see any of them, it´s thief and mesmer

RockSteady.7123:

These are exactly the kinds of runes we need to counter the condi spam meta. Because of these runes, power builds are being looked at again as a means to neutralize the favor towards condi builds. You now see more GS warrirors, power engis, and power necros. It’s not the perfect solution, but it is a step.

I disagree entirely with your post.

but they nerfed GS warriors so hard this patch, even hambow do more damage now.
You see people with GS, because they came from PvE

the problem with strength runes is that they work so well for condi builds too :/

The only way you’re going to have a balanced game is if you shoehorn classes into roles that only they can queue for and play effectively. Since that isn’t happening with GW2, a constantly shifting “meta” is the only thing in this game’s future.

Blackjack.5621:

RockSteady.7123:

These are exactly the kinds of runes we need to counter the condi spam meta. Because of these runes, power builds are being looked at again as a means to neutralize the favor towards condi builds. You now see more GS warrirors, power engis, and power necros. It’s not the perfect solution, but it is a step.

I disagree entirely with your post.

you wont see any of them, it´s thief and mesmer

This guy knows what’s up. Burst theives and mesmers all day today in solo queue.

First 1 without stealth/immunities/teleports dies
kewl

Stack that might, please.

It’s soo good to corrupt might capped guy with Path of Corruption and watch him panic

I don’t mind if they stack might. I’m a thief. I steal things.

Blackjack.5621:

There are players of all niches, not just dps zerker and those builds using strength runes would still be viable with different sets of runes / nerfed strength runes.

The goal can´t be to have a dps zerker meta, the goal must be to open up all variations and strategies to have similar chances if played correctly.

You mean soldier warriors?

And no I disagree, zerker should be ‘meta’ at the highest levels IMO.

They are too powerful. I do use them and play burst, and agree that zerker should trump condi and break bunkers, but this is a bit too much.

Problem is with bunkers using them to deal hilarious dmg while surviving 2v1… Bunker ele with 25 might stacks and kitten

a t s e.9614:

Oh no condi bunker got instagibbed . how sad

xD, Might with a Condition build is even more OP. I may be misunderstanding what “instagibbed” means but if you’re saying Sigil Of Strength is the bane of Condition bunker you are sorely mistaken :P. If anything it’s very much in our favor. Trust me I’ve been having a lot of fun stacking might and a ton of bleeds watching them do stupid amounts of dot damage. Who needs Sigil Of Bursting when you have Sigil Of Strength.

Rym.1469:

Stack that might, please.

It’s soo good to corrupt might capped guy with Path of Corruption and watch him panic

<3 that new trait so much. Oh, I see you have swiftness and might and are trying to escape my clutches… -Path Of Corruption- Oh look! Now you’re crippled, chilled, bleeding and weakened! Sorry not sorry.

i smell some happy mesmers and eles in this topic.

interesting how some peoples want have fun and dont care about other professions.
if rangers, engis and necros just get out damaged hard and become useless,
this players should stop playing?

for example the ranger mechanic is sustain and win over time (feels like eles can do this already much better).
if condi professions just get killed really fast from a might stacked no need animations on some hard damage skills ele or mesmer they become useless, even with rabit or settler amulet, carrion is no option then.

so i agree, strenght rune feels to strong at the moment.
some professions deals verry much damage after this patch, maybe not only because this rune…

at least, i dont know why this forum speak about condi meta all the time, even the meta before this patch was not a condi only meta..

lets see what will be meta this time

Anyone mind sharing a thief build that gets uber strong with these runes? I sure don’t know any. If anything these runes are roughly on par with ogre for thieves so we didn’t get a buff from them. Balthazar engi’s and MM necros are far more toxic to this game than strength runes.

Yeah I don’t see the deal with Strength Runes either.

They add a decent amount of DPS, but that’s it. We’ve had Scholar Runes since launch and no one had complained about them. They don’t really add anything else except DPS and that’s hardly game-breaking.

Dee Jay.2460:

Yeah I don’t see the deal with Strength Runes either.

They add a decent amount of DPS, but that’s it. We’ve had Scholar Runes since launch and no one had complained about them. They don’t really add anything else except DPS and that’s hardly game-breaking.

The 6th bonus piece is a huge difference between the two. Scholar you have to maintain your health over 90%, which doesn’t happen to often. Strength, you just simply need one stack of might.

I personally don’t have a problem with them. In my view the only rune that needs fixing is Balthazar.