yes you can say that you can avoid traps thats understood but if the group is focused elsewhere a dragon hunter can fry people in matter of seconds and it doesnt need any skill at all.
its not ok to go to a point put a trap and kill everyone because they didnt see you or they where fighting someone else and used their cooldowns.
If they didn’t see a DH or him putting traps or cannot dodge it is not DH problem, it is a people lack of skill problem. Traps have a very distinct and obvious animations and you have to be a total newbie to not recognize and react to that. In that case, obviously, it should hurt you so you could learn and improve
If they didn’t see a DH or him putting traps or cannot dodge it is not DH problem, it is a people lack of skill problem. Traps have a very distinct and obvious animations and you have to be a total newbie to not recognize and react to that. In that case, obviously, it should hurt you so you could learn and improve
no giving 1 shot kill skill to a point in a point pvp game is not ok
and not being able to see someone because you where focused on something else is not a matter of skill
if it was a 1vs1 focused game i could understand but its not
and tell me where is the at skill putting some traps on a circle and fish kills like crazy
If you lack awareness and cannot dodge – any class with any build will be able to “1 shot” you.
no one does it better and easier than dragon hunter on a massive scale
someone could be out of cooldowns out of energy or debuffed and not be able to escape
and not being able to see someone because you where focused on something else is not a matter of skill
It is a matter of skill actually. It’s what separates good players from average ones. Getting tunnel visioned to a single enemy, or even 2, shouldn’t affect your map awareness.
But tbh, Dragon’s Maw could use a nerf(PvP only).
Reduce the barriers duration to 3s and cut the damage by 20%.
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and not being able to see someone because you where focused on something else is not a matter of skill
It is a matter of skill actually. It’s what separates good players from average ones. Getting tunnel visioned to a single enemy, or even 2, shouldn’t affect your map awareness.
But tbh, Dragon’s Maw could use a nerf(PvP only).
Reduce the barriers duration to 3s and cut the damage by 20%.
so if you are defuffed or out of energy and cooldowns its a matter of skill?
then ill tell anyone to not used cooldowns or dodges because of possible dragon hunter traps
so if you are defuffed or out of energy and cooldowns its a matter of skill?
then ill tell anyone to not used cooldowns or dodges because of possible dragon hunter traps
If you cannot manage your cooldowns then yes, it is a matter of skill.
This is actually hillarious. The only trap that could see a nerf is the Healing one. There is no trap in the game that is a “one shot kill skill”. Nerfing Dragon’s Maw is the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard, considering the skill is utter garbage above Bronze league.
If the guardian doesnt run Renewed Focus you can kill him in a matter of seconds anyway.
To be a bit constructive aswell. Protection, Blocks and projectile destruction / reflects works wonders again a dragonhunter.
so if you are defuffed or out of energy and cooldowns its a matter of skill?
then ill tell anyone to not used cooldowns or dodges because of possible dragon hunter traps
If you cannot manage your cooldowns then yes, it is a matter of skill.
so dont play with skill because you will need cooldowns for possible dh traps thats very logic
If you get caught without defense, lots of stuff can and should kill you. Nothing wrong with it …
Players aren’t supposed to be unkillable.
i agree but players arent suppose to kill that easy either
theres always 2 dragon hunters per match and theres a simple reason for that
its too easy and rewarding on fighting points
so if you are defuffed or out of energy and cooldowns its a matter of skill?
then ill tell anyone to not used cooldowns or dodges because of possible dragon hunter traps
If you cannot manage your cooldowns then yes, it is a matter of skill.
so dont play with skill because you will need cooldowns for possible dh traps thats very logic
If you know there is a DH on the map, you keep track of where they are because you know that if you get caught by them unawares, it will be your downfall. It’s how DH plays, catching unaware targets by surprise. You treat thieves the same way. That’s why you save a skill that will help you in the event the DH shows up.
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Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
All classes lvl 80.
It is only easy against players that don’t know, how to deal with a dh. Which might be the majority. But why would you encourage players to whine on the forums to get something nerfed, instead of learning how to deal with it?
Finally one of these threads again. Season almost ended and I knew something was missing. The only thing this forum needs now is another “Sindrenerr died” thread.
Okay seriously, DH is fine. Probably way better balanced than some other classes. If you can’t handle a sudden burst, how do you deal with a decent DP thief coming from stealth?
Finally one of these threads again. Season almost ended and I knew something was missing. The only thing this forum needs now is another “Sindrenerr died” thread.
Okay seriously, DH is fine. Probably way better balanced than some other classes. If you can’t handle a sudden burst, how do you deal with a decent DP thief coming from stealth?
thief cant wipe half team with a press of a button
Finally one of these threads again. Season almost ended and I knew something was missing. The only thing this forum needs now is another “Sindrenerr died” thread.
Okay seriously, DH is fine. Probably way better balanced than some other classes. If you can’t handle a sudden burst, how do you deal with a decent DP thief coming from stealth?
thief cant wipe half team with a press of a button
I want to propose a challenge to you. Go into a game, as a DH and film yourself wiping even 1 player with 1 button. Hell, you can even use three buttons.
Finally one of these threads again. Season almost ended and I knew something was missing. The only thing this forum needs now is another “Sindrenerr died” thread.
Okay seriously, DH is fine. Probably way better balanced than some other classes. If you can’t handle a sudden burst, how do you deal with a decent DP thief coming from stealth?
thief cant wipe half team with a press of a button
I want to propose a challenge to you. Go into a game, as a DH and film yourself wiping even 1 player with 1 button. Hell, you can even use three buttons.
i refuse to play this obnoxious class even if the whole vanilla gw2 guardian was my main
Finally one of these threads again. Season almost ended and I knew something was missing. The only thing this forum needs now is another “Sindrenerr died” thread.
Okay seriously, DH is fine. Probably way better balanced than some other classes. If you can’t handle a sudden burst, how do you deal with a decent DP thief coming from stealth?
thief cant wipe half team with a press of a button
I want to propose a challenge to you. Go into a game, as a DH and film yourself wiping even 1 player with 1 button. Hell, you can even use three buttons.
i refuse to play this obnoxious class even if the whole vanilla gw2 guardian was my main
Core burn / mediguard was way stronger in that meta than DH is in this meta. But hey, thats none of my buisness
Finally one of these threads again. Season almost ended and I knew something was missing. The only thing this forum needs now is another “Sindrenerr died” thread.
Okay seriously, DH is fine. Probably way better balanced than some other classes. If you can’t handle a sudden burst, how do you deal with a decent DP thief coming from stealth?
thief cant wipe half team with a press of a button
I want to propose a challenge to you. Go into a game, as a DH and film yourself wiping even 1 player with 1 button. Hell, you can even use three buttons.
i refuse to play this obnoxious class even if the whole vanilla gw2 guardian was my main
Core burn / mediguard was way stronger in that meta than DH is in this meta. But hey, thats none of my buisness
maybe at 1vs1 but still didnt have it that easy on points
Finally one of these threads again. Season almost ended and I knew something was missing. The only thing this forum needs now is another “Sindrenerr died” thread.
Okay seriously, DH is fine. Probably way better balanced than some other classes. If you can’t handle a sudden burst, how do you deal with a decent DP thief coming from stealth?
thief cant wipe half team with a press of a button
This forum…why do I even bother? If half of your team wipes through a single trap you might not be the most qualified person to propose a balance change. This probably sounds mean to you, but please deal with it. Hell the majority of people here including me should not propose changes since only a few of us play all classes in pvp and have a broader perspective because of that.
Finally one of these threads again. Season almost ended and I knew something was missing. The only thing this forum needs now is another “Sindrenerr died” thread.
Okay seriously, DH is fine. Probably way better balanced than some other classes. If you can’t handle a sudden burst, how do you deal with a decent DP thief coming from stealth?
thief cant wipe half team with a press of a button
This forum…why do I even bother? If half of your team wipes through a single trap you might not be the most qualified person to propose a balance change. This probably sounds mean to you, but please deal with it. Hell the majority of people here including me should not propose changes since only a few of us play all classes in pvp and have a broader perspective because of that.
This comment triggered me. Well played.
thats what forums are to state opinions my opinion is that dhs need a change
u can have your own thats why we have the option to chat
maybe other classes needs changes also but from my point of view dh is problematic
They aren’t as bad now that spear of justice doesn’t mandate that you have counterstrike levels of twitch reflexes and perfect internet to dodge. If ports didn’t trigger test of faith I doubt anyone would be complaining though.
@OP what class do you main? You are gonna have to accept at some point that some class with some build counters another class with another build. As a mesmer main, I would certainly not want to target the DH first, unless I +1 one of my team mate or I have portal up to make the DH loose some time on a point. Daze on traps were pretty dumb and OP though before.
I dont really care if DH gets damage nerf, unlikely. but w/ your reasoning any class can 1 shot u/ kill u if u have no cd, low hp, or unaware. whats the next class your going to complain next if they happen to kill u or 1 shot u just because you got put in a situation where most players will die regardless.
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Dragonhunter should be nerfed because of how easy it is to have an impact in the game with it as well as because its simply not fun to play against. Not because of its power level. It doesnt matter how good you are at the game, unless youre playing a complete counter to it like druid you wont have fun fighting them and it doesnt matter if you kill them or not.
Its a stupid waiting game. 90% of DH players blow their f3, elite and f3 again which results in a kittenton of seconds on which you cant really pressure him. Its obviously a bad way of playing DH but its still effective because of how badly DH was designed. Nobody wants to play against this. There are other builds that are “easy to play” as well but nothing comes close to DH. The traps are really not the problem of DH since they finally got rid of the dazing effect on them. Sure they can be annoying when someone sets them randomly up off node when you werent anywhere near there and then walk into them and die because someone is running all traps but imo its not the main reason DH is a badly designed spec.
@OP what class do you main? You are gonna have to accept at some point that some class with some build counters another class with another build. As a mesmer main, I would certainly not want to target the DH first, unless I +1 one of my team mate or I have portal up to make the DH loose some time on a point. Daze on traps were pretty dumb and OP though before.
i dont have a particular class i play ele revenant ranger and whatever ealse i occasionally play.
i never said i have a personal extreme weakness against dragon hunters .
i say they wipe teams extremely easy.
for example i can put healing rain on point and it doesnt even do anything if the team doesnt play good or has no cooldowns left to avoid traps.
sorry for repeating but i think they shouldnt of added massive point nukes on a point based pvp game.
Its a stupid waiting game. 90% of DH players blow their f3, elite and f3 again which results in a kittenton of seconds on which you cant really pressure him.
Uh… just use an unblockable skill dude. Like L2P.
It’s mad unlikely now that you will face ESL level players, so it’s actually possible to out-skill basically everyone in pvp right now. If you play smart, read skill descriptions, & maybe tweak your build you can go hella far. Or like, you can get salty i guess but homes, that will get you straight up nowhere.
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Agree. Not on the nerfpart but on the funthing. Plus the passiv def. Nothing is more fun than actively timing a reflectwindow to see the reflected trueshot go pop into aegis.
and not being able to see someone because you where focused on something else is not a matter of skill
It is a matter of skill actually. It’s what separates good players from average ones. Getting tunnel visioned to a single enemy, or even 2, shouldn’t affect your map awareness.
But tbh, Dragon’s Maw could use a nerf(PvP only).
Reduce the barriers duration to 3s and cut the damage by 20%.
so if you are defuffed or out of energy and cooldowns its a matter of skill?
then ill tell anyone to not used cooldowns or dodges because of possible dragon hunter traps
if you are debuffed, out of energy and cooldowns, why the hell are you complaining about being killed?
you’re suppose to die to pretty much any build at that point.
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and not being able to see someone because you where focused on something else is not a matter of skill
It is a matter of skill actually. It’s what separates good players from average ones. Getting tunnel visioned to a single enemy, or even 2, shouldn’t affect your map awareness.
But tbh, Dragon’s Maw could use a nerf(PvP only).
Reduce the barriers duration to 3s and cut the damage by 20%.
so if you are defuffed or out of energy and cooldowns its a matter of skill?
then ill tell anyone to not used cooldowns or dodges because of possible dragon hunter traps
if you are debuffed, out of energy and cooldowns, why the hell are you complaining about being killed?
you’re suppose to die to pretty much any build at that point.
no only dragon hunter can kill that easy at that situation if im debuffed maybe enemies are debuffed also, a dragon hunter just comes and kills the momentum by nuking everyone .
they dont even need to target anything and no skill is involved ,
just know where the point is and thats it
Just like a DH can wreck the team if he isn’t focused, a necro or revenant do the same. Perhaps people are just bad.
Then again, I do think that DH has a tiny bit too much damage on his traps and is badly reliant on knocking/pushing/pulling enemies over Test of Faith. That damage should be elsewhere, not in that trap.
don’t really care of they nerf procession of blades and dragon’s maw again in pvp only. it’s not like those two traps are used by any above average dh anyway.
yes you can say that you can avoid traps thats understood but if the group is focused elsewhere a dragon hunter can fry people in matter of seconds and it doesnt need any skill at all.
its not ok to go to a point put a trap and kill everyone because they didnt see you or they where fighting someone else and used their cooldowns.
at least nerf the damage to half.
game is about gimmicks, play a better gimmick….
Still medi trapper is the only was guardian have to play against decent players, Anet had to had a dumb gimmick to guardian to be in pair with other classes spam to win.
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Dragon Hunter is fine I wished the teles they have were easier to see coming but that’s only gripe I have bc I main necro lol….all in all they shouldn’t be touched it’s a learn to play issue
Traps are a PBAoE skill (point blank are of effect). If people are grouped that tightly a necromancer could drop Wells there and melt them too but I don’t see anyone saying Wells need to be nerfed. Don’t get me wrong I think all traps minus the heal take no skill to use but traps can easily be avoided. Just because you’re caught off guard or blew through all your cooldowns doesn’t mean thing should get nerfed.
Edit: I just read my post and sorry if it comes across as mean, that’s not my intention
Its a stupid waiting game. 90% of DH players blow their f3, elite and f3 again which results in a kittenton of seconds on which you cant really pressure him.
Uh… just use an unblockable skill dude. Like L2P.
It’s mad unlikely now that you will face ESL level players, so it’s actually possible to out-skill basically everyone in pvp right now. If you play smart, read skill descriptions, & maybe tweak your build you can go hella far. Or like, you can get salty i guess but homes, that will get you straight up nowhere.
So because i find it not fun to play against one profession, i should change my whole build or even profession so i can have fun against it? Im not having issues dealing with the profession, i have issues with how i need to deal with the profession and you would understand that if you werent illiterate. It doesnt matter if theyre esl level or not, its still just as boring to go against because of the flawed design. You read half of my comment and even that you misinterpreted. Congratulations.
i dont give one single care how fun you think a profession is to fight. i don’t find anything very fun to fight after HoT, but im not sad about it. im not sad on the forum because i dont take unblockable skills & can’t pressure. that’s your prerogative. it seems that DH not being fun to fight against is really rustling your jimmies, so yeah i would suggest you tweak your build for it if it’s effecting you that much emotionally. DH is a pretty easy, & dare i say ‘fun’ fight with unblockable skills (which are also strong vs other classes w blocks, warrior etc).
i take unblockable skills on all builds sans warrior, so the DH’s f3 is met w the sweet explosion of my blast gyro, & boy i do let out a cackle at that. dang, seems i might have had some of this elusive ‘fun’ you crave so much. maybe you should give unblockables a try, turn that frown upside-down
but hey, don’t take unblockables, play your ‘stupid waiting game’ & come be sad about having an unfun fight & not being able to pressure. it’s your choice, big strong boy, or tiny crying baby.
You either dont understand what flawed design means or you refuse to acknowledge it. Im sorry to say theres nothing more im willing to do and most likely able to do to make you realise that, reets will stay reets.
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or, did you mean flawed design is low skill floor builds that you personally don’t find fun to fight?
because dude, firstly games require low skill floor characters, it’s important to have them to build community. secondly, not fun to fight is actually just your opinion dude. like that’s it, that’s all. it’s not a quantifiable, definable thing.
so like, meh? flawed design just seems like a cool term to use to reframe ‘whine’.
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yes you can say that you can avoid traps thats understood but if the group is focused elsewhere a dragon hunter can fry people in matter of seconds and it doesnt need any skill at all.
Specs based around dealing large amounts of damage quickly are very good at dealing large amounts of damage quickly? I should be taking notes…
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