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Posted by: Duke Nukem.6783

Duke Nukem.6783

tired of seeing 3 guardians on 1 team, no guardians on the other and going “yup they will win cuz they have more guards”

its bs, they are op, why can they set traps DURING combat……you should use the gw1 method of setting traps requiring the player to be out of combat

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Posted by: Sezz.3029

Sezz.3029

Too much aoe affecting the game right now. They need to increase the cool down on all aoe skills on all classes not just guard. But, yes I agree. Guard is op and it takes 0 skill to play.

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Posted by: Honest John.4673

Honest John.4673

You forgot to add that you’re in bronze and there should be more mmr gain for top stats.

Also if you admit that you’re far from the best yet still shouldn’t be placed with “bad teamates” you’d be golden.

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Posted by: Tiefsee.3647

Tiefsee.3647

Interesting idea (old idea?) that traps can’t be used in combat, i like

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

you should use the gw1 method of setting traps requiring the player to be out of combat

LMAO

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

Showing your rank badge on the forums it would be much easier to weed out these threads. Come back when you’re in gold or higher and find out where the true power lies.

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Posted by: OGDeadHead.8326

OGDeadHead.8326

you should use the gw1 method of setting traps requiring the player to be out of combat

That’s not how it worked in GW1. You could set traps at anytime, but you were easily interrupted trying to do so.

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Posted by: ibchillin.7805

ibchillin.7805

Better yet limit the games to only 2 of a class per team maximum. I’m sick of seeing this crap as well.

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Posted by: Shadowstep.6049

Shadowstep.6049

Showing your rank badge on the forums it would be much easier to weed out these threads. Come back when you’re in gold or higher and find out where the true power lies.

the joke is high tiers are also flooded with DHs

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

DeceiverX.8361

Showing your rank badge on the forums it would be much easier to weed out these threads. Come back when you’re in gold or higher and find out where the true power lies.

Fun fact, DH is dominating the highest tiers right now moreso than the lower ones.

Warrior and thief should be labeled as OP if you’re gonna look at the low tiers.

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Posted by: Mini Crinny.6190

Mini Crinny.6190

The only thing i have a problem with Dh traps are that the traps that are already placed, dont disappear when the skill recharges, other than that, there fine

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Posted by: Yasi.9065

Yasi.9065

The only thing i have a problem with Dh traps are that the traps that are already placed, dont disappear when the skill recharges, other than that, there fine

Agree, same for ranger traps.

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

tired of seeing 3 guardians on 1 team, no guardians on the other and going “yup they will win cuz they have more guards”

its bs, they are op, why can they set traps DURING combat……you should use the gw1 method of setting traps requiring the player to be out of combat

cool, yep, i’ll just spam traps all across the map, you know in GW1 you could simply spam them the moment they came off cooldown and the first one would stay there?
typically you’d spam 3 of each trap on one spot and enemies would simply explode, instantly.
yep i’m game lets do it!
i do miss trapping the bridges in alliance battles! :P

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Posted by: abaddon.3290

abaddon.3290

gaurds op? you mean easily outplayed?

im bad at sarcasm

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Posted by: trunks.5249

trunks.5249

if you have a lot of them they can be a pain but 1v1 for me most of the time they go down quick. shoot them with short bow 1 time to get that block out of the way and throw my torch at him use my sos skill so his trap is usless and run in and finish him with bonfire and sword 3 skill.. had one yesterday whisper me and called me noob and a bunch of names i cant say in forums. i wanted to say to him get good but didnt want to act like a 5 year old

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Posted by: Moonsinn.5382

Moonsinn.5382

You forgot to add that you’re in bronze and there should be more mmr gain for top stats.

Also if you admit that you’re far from the best yet still shouldn’t be placed with “bad teamates” you’d be golden.

Quoted for truth.

I’m so tired of the nerf traps bs. If I can wreck trap DHs on my thief, you guys can learn to counter them. I had one lay all his traps on point and stand there while I ranged him to death with scepter on my core guardian.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

I’m playing high tier. I don’t see DH stacked more than any other class. People drawing statistics from nowhere spreading misinformation.

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Posted by: Pache.9406

Pache.9406

8/10 matches, the team with the most number of guardians will win, that is a fact.

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Posted by: Yasi.9065

Yasi.9065

8/10 matches, the team with the most number of guardians will win, that is a fact.

Today was guard daily… so there were like hundreds of them I met today – at least it felt like it

Cant say the team with most always wins.

Havent seen that many decent guards to begin with. Most guards are so easily baited and killed, its kinda funny and sad at the same time.

So what division are you in that you see so many good guards that easily win matches?

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Posted by: Somehow.4769

Somehow.4769

tbh the only thing that bothers me is that the trap’s CD starts refreshing when they place the trap rather than when it is triggered. And I don’t mind those CD to be drastically reduced if that change is made.

When I burn a huge invul CD so I can clean a spot only to see the DH instantly place his trap/s at the same place, welp, I feel like there’s no good choice for me to make there.

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Posted by: Lucentfir.7430

Lucentfir.7430

8/10 matches, the team with the most number of guardians will win, that is a fact.

I wouldn’t say it’s fact….I play DH, just yesterday I had a match where I got 2 thieves on my team and the other team got 2 DHs. my team ended up winning with 500-200.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

Anything that happens, no matter what is nerfed, somescrub, somewhere will walk into 5 traps stacked and die. His ghost will show up here to QQ.

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Posted by: Shadowstep.6049

Shadowstep.6049

Anything that happens, no matter what is nerfed, somescrub, somewhere will walk into 5 traps stacked and die. His ghost will show up here to QQ.

Still doesn’t change the fact that DH is too easy to play and to rewarding atm and carriers players to ratings where they don’t belong and drag team down because they still lack basic understanding of rotation, focusing, team fighting, map timers etc. Had too many of those DHs in matches that seemingly don’t have map open at all.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

But the same goes for aura tempests pulling whole teams to where they don’t belong. I demod one a few games this season and with minimal rotational knowledge it didn’t matter how bad my team were I just brought them back. It doesn’t suffer from the cool down drawback DH does, you always have a go to skill open.

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Posted by: Shadowstep.6049

Shadowstep.6049

But the same goes for aura tempests pulling whole teams to where they don’t belong. I demod one a few games this season and with minimal rotational knowledge it didn’t matter how bad my team were I just brought them back. It doesn’t suffer from the cool down drawback DH does, you always have a go to skill open.

Ele still requires a team that can capitalize on ele’s support where DH is more independent.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

T3 gold and up you can count on your team using you. Point stands that they’re both equally easy to play.

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Posted by: Shadowstep.6049

Shadowstep.6049

T3 gold and up you can count on your team using you. Point stands that they’re both equally easy to play.

Dude i am in plat and people run around like headless chicken. So no, you can’t count on teammates.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

Try talking to them before the match?

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Posted by: Shadowstep.6049

Shadowstep.6049

Try talking to them before the match?

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, been there, done that. Pointless.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Try talking to them before the match?

HAHA…
een there, done that. Pointless.

Rotating away from Ele and playing sides, watching thief backcaps, telling some one to portal far, etc.

Idk about you but people have been listening to me in my last three games and my strats has won us matches.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

I’ve been asking eles to support our necros etc and it works well. Only time it doesn’t is when you have 2 thieves screaming over who swaps.

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Posted by: TheMountain.6204

TheMountain.6204

tired of seeing 3 guardians on 1 team, no guardians on the other and going “yup they will win cuz they have more guards”

its bs, they are op, why can they set traps DURING combat……you should use the gw1 method of setting traps requiring the player to be out of combat

Funny I should see this.. I was just in a match where we had 0 Guardians and there were 3 on the other team. I pointed that out as we started since I felt pessimistic from the start (playing a light armored class that gets destroyed in DM/ToF).

We did, in fact, lose of course.

But what bothers me most is why the system didn’t try to balance the teams more? Why 3 Guardians on one side and 0 on the other. Not that a team needs a guardian to win its just that way you don’t allow them to rotate their traps so someone is always able to lay one down.

They actually had 3 Guardians and 2 Rangers. We were given 1 Rev, 2 Thieves, 1 Warrior and I don’t recall the fifth (def not DH) but I think it was a necro. I was one of the thieves and switched to Ele to give my team more support… and the fact 2 thieves is 1 too much. At that time I didn’t know they had 3 Guardians or I would have asked the other thief to switch since DH’s eat up thieves.

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Posted by: Kastylx.3725

Kastylx.3725

Too much aoe affecting the game right now. They need to increase the cool down on all aoe skills on all classes not just guard. But, yes I agree. Guard is op and it takes 0 skill to play.

Just make it work like it was in wow(?) with pets; limit the max damage you can take from aoe every second, job done, it would solve wvw problem too.

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Posted by: Jhoul.6923

Jhoul.6923

Too much aoe affecting the game right now. They need to increase the cool down on all aoe skills on all classes not just guard. But, yes I agree. Guard is op and it takes 0 skill to play.

Just make it work like it was in wow(?) with pets; limit the max damage you can take from aoe every second, job done, it would solve wvw problem too.

this++

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

Too much aoe affecting the game right now. They need to increase the cool down on all aoe skills on all classes not just guard. But, yes I agree. Guard is op and it takes 0 skill to play.

Just make it work like it was in wow(?) with pets; limit the max damage you can take from aoe every second, job done, it would solve wvw problem too.

this++

To much AOE is one of the top 5 things gw2 was ment to be built in.

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: Aveigel.2601

Aveigel.2601

They should simply make traps more like thief traps (a line) or ranger size (small rinky dink circle)

that would completely remove all guards from your matches and you’d have no more worries!!! how brilliant is that!

I’m not suggesting anything…not even learning to deal with this type of super common scenario that could improve your gameplay.

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Posted by: Loop.8106

Loop.8106

Sure, but fix the ridiculous projectile denial that eles have so that guardians have some sort of damage output. I mean, the sword auto not being projectile based is really a step in the right direction. However ..

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Posted by: Duke Nukem.6783

Duke Nukem.6783

Showing your rank badge on the forums it would be much easier to weed out these threads. Come back when you’re in gold or higher and find out where the true power lies.

im top of silver, but you really think we should only balance for ONE group? gold or above? thats stupid

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Posted by: xeonage.1253

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break the low skill base and die like a kitten in high skill base. But ONE THING I am sure:
Their number is HUGE!

Now you should know why GW2 cannot keep their player base. New player in this game just a victim.

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Posted by: beatthedown.2651

beatthedown.2651

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dodge

Super secret technique to counter traps.

Non sarcastic answer that might be helpful for newer players: Bind your dodge on “v” and now you can dodgejump easily by pressing space and “v” with your thumb. More range and your dodge ignores cripple/chill bullkitten.

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Posted by: Prince Vingador.8067

Prince Vingador.8067

Problem is not that the guard is op or easy to play.
Problem is when u get in 1 team 3 thievs vs 3 guards, class staking is a problem, lost 2 games in a row because of this, its just impossible to win with such conditions

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Posted by: shagwell.1349

shagwell.1349

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dodge

Super secret technique to counter traps.

Non sarcastic answer that might be helpful for newer players: Bind your dodge on “v” and now you can dodgejump easily by pressing space and “v” with your thumb. More range and your dodge ignores cripple/chill bullkitten.

Yeah, because you never need to dodge otherwise!

Sounds like a typical thief statement. “Dodge! you should have three or four”

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Posted by: Shadowstep.6049

Shadowstep.6049

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dodge

Super secret technique to counter traps.

Non sarcastic answer that might be helpful for newer players: Bind your dodge on “v” and now you can dodgejump easily by pressing space and “v” with your thumb. More range and your dodge ignores cripple/chill bullkitten.

Yeah, because you never need to dodge otherwise!

Sounds like a typical thief statement. “Dodge! you should have three or four”

Any half-decent thief would never say that because they are more aware of dodges than anyone else actually. Only people that say it is the ones that try to defend the broken mechanics.

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Posted by: Nusku.3941

Nusku.3941

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Posted by: Archon.6480

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https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dodge

Super secret technique to counter traps.

Non sarcastic answer that might be helpful for newer players: Bind your dodge on “v” and now you can dodgejump easily by pressing space and “v” with your thumb. More range and your dodge ignores cripple/chill bullkitten.

Yeah, because you never need to dodge otherwise!

Sounds like a typical thief statement. “Dodge! you should have three or four”

Any half-decent thief would never say that because they are more aware of dodges than anyone else actually. Only people that say it is the ones that try to defend the broken mechanics.

Ha, ha, ha. That’s why all the, eh, good players switch to thief when they see guardians on opposing teams. Gud dodges is the best way to beat DH ????

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Posted by: Archon.6480

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…a better strategy is to lasso them with the Druid elite and walk back and forth over Test of Faith. It’s funny.

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Posted by: beatthedown.2651

beatthedown.2651

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dodge

Super secret technique to counter traps.

Non sarcastic answer that might be helpful for newer players: Bind your dodge on “v” and now you can dodgejump easily by pressing space and “v” with your thumb. More range and your dodge ignores cripple/chill bullkitten.

Yeah, because you never need to dodge otherwise!

Sounds like a typical thief statement. “Dodge! you should have three or four”

kitten thief counters DH with their dodges. Wow. This forum.

I posted this because people who complain about DH being OP have the same skill level as PVE mobs…

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Posted by: Solstace.2514

Solstace.2514

You forgot to add that you’re in bronze and there should be more mmr gain for top stats.

Also if you admit that you’re far from the best yet still shouldn’t be placed with “bad teamates” you’d be golden.

Quoted for truth.

I’m so tired of the nerf traps bs. If I can wreck trap DHs on my thief, you guys can learn to counter them. I had one lay all his traps on point and stand there while I ranged him to death with scepter on my core guardian.

3 words: one trick pony.

I don’t mind the traps, I just dislike the enormous amount of damage mitigation they have and the solid heals. Far more than a one trick pony. Plus beating a terrible player doesn’t mean much one way or another about the build.

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Posted by: Shaogin.2679

Shaogin.2679

Play Druid, kill DH’s, support team.

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