Guild Wars 2

I think there is going to HAVE to be balance issues addressed in this patch. The AOE nerf is going in this patch as far as I understand so unless they change some other things you are going to see ele, necro, engineer basically unusable if other stuff is not adjusted as well.

Seriously dont get pumped for this patch. We already got told what was in it and there was nothing but a small (and very welcome) change to paid tournies which only lasts a week and then it reverts back to the completely broken system we currently have which is responsible for pvp in this game being dead.

It is no surprise. Look again what PvE players are getting. New items, new gear, changes to their new dungeon, a whole new reward system with laurels.

Just face it people. If you want to do pvp then its probably worth just moving on from this game. They arent serious about it. They care about PvE. Thats it. We have had 1 new map and thats it. In 5 months. Same for WvW….basically ZERO improvements in 5 months.

But PvE gets BS like guesting (wtf – really nobody cares about this), fractals, reworked dungeons, new items, regular events, new rewards system, constant bug fixes to events, new events, trading post improvements, blah blah blah.

This game is the most PvE orientated MMO I have ever seen. Even more than WoW.

If they give every class portal that is just lame. Whats next 100lb mesmers? Seems like a cheesy way to fix and issue to me.

funny how much people complain on eles, and yet they are pretty much as far as i can tell, the only class that has been nerfed on every patch, the only thing wrong with eles is basically the lack of build choice.. auramancer or go home, and yeah auras are hella good and yeah its pretty easy for auramancers to have 100% fury and swiftness uptime, 30% duration from arcane, attunement switches and auras, 2x easy and 1 combo field 1 on d/d personally id like to see some incentive to go back to staff, or maybe even the focus as an option.

p.s for the people who was talking about runes of lyssa for cond removal/all boons it cant be done every “36” sec on theives the effect has a internal cooldown of 45 secs so any elite with a quicker cast time can actually hinder it, e.g necro elite pet, both the summon and the knockdown can proc the effect

Lack of build choice, and power of build aren’t the same thing gintoki.

I mean i feel ya that the class has undergone alot of adjustments. But the fact is elementalists dominate Paid tournies to a way higher degree than any other class. Even see teams running triple ELes (ala orgins).

If your not doing paid tournies, and seeing it for yourself, i feel almost like its impossible to get it. But when stacked and played right with high coordination the double /triple ele combo is so powerful.

Ayestes.1273:

It just meant you cherry picked the traits out of each tree with 10 or 20 points in every line. It wasn’t that great. Consider now with most of the traits being as bad as they are with only a couple of good ones how quickly everyone would be the same build even more then they already are.

What I’d really like in general, is just a major cleaning up of all the bad stuff in every profession. The skills that aren’t often even worth a key press and the traits no experienced player would ever take. Each profession is littered with these noob traps that sounds good on paper to someone new to the game, but are absolute garbage.

I’ve seen you defending eles thruought the topic, i can bet my money on the fact, that it’s your main.

Also a fact – you are not realistic. You have your profession, and you like how it is right now, and even though it spoils the fun for others, you will defend it to your dying breath.

Another fact – eles do need nerfing. not to the damage ( i can handle eles damage, never been an issue), but to the insane healing/cds they got. At this moment all competitive pvp teams are running teams with 2 eles in comp, bunking their way to victory. It’s hard to kill an ele bunker with 2vs1, even with 3vs1 it takes insanely long time, just for the simple fact, that they can lightning rush themselves to full health in no time.

Ele bunkers and instagib thieves are the most pressing problems atm, and they need to be dealt with in order for pvp to be at the point of being just a little bit fun. And your childish raging about and defending that profession are just in the way.

And as for the topic’s main theme;

1. Giving engineers some love – all my friends quit playing that class, saying that it does very poorly in pvp due to lack of everything → meaning other classes can do it too, but alot better, i would love to see some diversity in pvp, not only seeing necros /eles/mesmers/thieves(and occasionally a guardian bunker)
2. Adding some fun to pvp rewards – more ways to spend your glory
3. Adding a new game mode (althou it’s not gonna happen for sure), since conquest was made to make guild wars competitive (which it still isn’t, due to profession unbalance), but it gets boring overtime.

Xplosiv.1503:

Ayestes.1273:

It just meant you cherry picked the traits out of each tree with 10 or 20 points in every line. It wasn’t that great. Consider now with most of the traits being as bad as they are with only a couple of good ones how quickly everyone would be the same build even more then they already are.

What I’d really like in general, is just a major cleaning up of all the bad stuff in every profession. The skills that aren’t often even worth a key press and the traits no experienced player would ever take. Each profession is littered with these noob traps that sounds good on paper to someone new to the game, but are absolute garbage.

I’ve seen you defending eles thruought the topic, i can bet my money on the fact, that it’s your main.

Also a fact – you are not realistic. You have your profession, and you like how it is right now, and even though it spoils the fun for others, you will defend it to your dying breath.

Another fact – eles do need nerfing. not to the damage ( i can handle eles damage, never been an issue), but to the insane healing/cds they got. At this moment all competitive pvp teams are running teams with 2 eles in comp, bunking their way to victory. It’s hard to kill an ele bunker with 2vs1, even with 3vs1 it takes insanely long time, just for the simple fact, that they can lightning rush themselves to full health in no time.

Ele bunkers and instagib thieves are the most pressing problems atm, and they need to be dealt with in order for pvp to be at the point of being just a little bit fun. And your childish raging about and defending that profession are just in the way.

And as for the topic’s main theme;

1. Giving engineers some love – all my friends quit playing that class, saying that it does very poorly in pvp due to lack of everything -> meaning other classes can do it too, but alot better, i would love to see some diversity in pvp, not only seeing necros /eles/mesmers/thieves(and occasionally a guardian bunker)
2. Adding some fun to pvp rewards – more ways to spend your glory
3. Adding a new game mode (althou it’s not gonna happen for sure), since conquest was made to make guild wars competitive (which it still isn’t, due to profession unbalance), but it gets boring overtime.

“I can handle ele damage never been an issue”, fact is the dmg on ele is so low that J.Peters already said eles gonna receive a buff in that department, I can see that as long something is easy for you to defeat..then it’s ok, the class is balanced just the ele player need to l2p…but when you lose is because the ele is OP, different MMO..same story

Xplosiv.1503:

I’ve seen you defending eles thruought the topic, i can bet my money on the fact, that it’s your main.

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1. Giving engineers some love – all my friends quit playing that class, saying that it does very poorly in pvp due to lack of everything -> meaning other classes can do it too, but alot better, i would love to see some diversity in pvp, not only seeing necros /eles/mesmers/thieves(and occasionally a guardian bunker)

My main is an Engineer, and I think the D/D Valk Ele build needs nerfs because it accomplishes too many things at once namely mobility and survival in contrast to it’s damage output. I also think burst damage and bunker sustain across the board needs to be looked at. Not sure where you thought I was defending the Ele profession. My only alts with any realistic playtime are a Mesmer and Warrior, I’m sorry you got that impression about me.

The only thing I could think of, is maybe I was trying to help someone kill a D/D ele or bunker ele in general. I have pointed out that these builds drop to overwhelming condi spam better then anything else. The builds are a bit too strong I think, but they aren’t flat out unbeatable.

Mostly what I want is a massive trait and skill cleanup. Utilities need a good cooldowns look revamp as well, since many are simply too long. If you need any evidence for what I play, simply look at my post history which is primarily within the Engineer forums or my signature which I assure you is what I play the majority of the time. Specifically, I have a massive document compilation about all about issues, concerns, and suggestions for the Engineer that I plan to finish up and put out after I’ve had some time to soak in this patch. I assure you I have no personal love for the Ele profession, but I’ll also point out I don’t want the entire Ele profession nerfed into oblivion.

I probably shouldn’t have been so concerned about being mislabeled, but this is twice this has happened in one week. I’m curious as to why.