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how do eles pull it off?
There are a few key skills on eles you need to interrupt such as water OL, or “Wash the Pain Away!”. Otherwise, they’ll just keep healing away all of your damage.
Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
All classes lvl 80.
There are a few key skills on eles you need to interrupt such as water OL, or “Wash the Pain Away!”. Otherwise, they’ll just keep healing away all of your damage.
so a well timed spike trap or a daze would work? ill have to watch one and just see how their rotation goes. i must of waited a few sec at the wrong time and just helped her
you cant kill support ele 1v1 with anything, dont fight them on a captured node ever on such conditions
There are a few key skills on eles you need to interrupt such as water OL, or “Wash the Pain Away!”. Otherwise, they’ll just keep healing away all of your damage.
so a well timed spike trap or a daze would work? ill have to watch one and just see how their rotation goes. i must of waited a few sec at the wrong time and just helped her
They might but keep in mind that they will try to cover that healing with Stability, Arcane Shield or LoS so a single CC will probably get you nowhere. Dropping good eles is mainly a job for a thief, as they can headshot-spam and peel defenses.
Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
All classes lvl 80.
you cant kill support ele 1v1 with anything, dont fight them on a captured node ever on such conditions
Of course you can, if you know the Elementalist you can kill them
you cant kill support ele 1v1 with anything, dont fight them on a captured node ever on such conditions
You can force decap or take down any ele pretty fast, best for that is condi warrior. Its counter to eles is huge cc and condi bombing.
you cant kill support ele 1v1 with anything, dont fight them on a captured node ever on such conditions
You can force decap or take down any ele pretty fast, best for that is condi warrior. Its counter to eles is huge cc and condi bombing.
Coincidentally that also works on druids. Unfortunately I suck at playing warrior.
Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
All classes lvl 80.
Boon corruption from reapers works pretty well on eles, theres a trait that converts boons to condis as well. They aren’t so hard when they basically kill themselves.
Interrupts are the best thing against Eles. Don’t waste them on just any skill. Save them for when they’re going to heal. Overload Water goes on full CD when interrupted, even if it was only cast for a split second. “Wash the Pain Away” also goes on full CD. These are the top skills to interrupt. They heal for the most and they’re both AoE. If you manage to interrupt those, they’ll have to use other CDs, and after those, they’ll have to escape. Other important skills to interrupt is Earth Overload, which requires either a Thief Steal or boon corruption in order to get through the stability. Actually, all Overloads are good to interrupt, but the most defensive ones are the best. Overload Air can be seen as defensive because, when traited, it gives Lightning Aura to the Ele, which can stun and possibly give them enough time to heal or escape.
Heavy condition pressure can burn down an Ele after a while. They only have so many cleanses. Once those are gone, condition pressure is as much of a nightmare for them as it is for anyone else.
However, any good player knows what to dodge to reduce pressure on them. Basically, you need to use up their defences. This’ll force them to kite/LoS you, and it should allow you to win a point or at least decap it.
If you’re still having trouble, try outrotating them. They aren’t terribly fast moving and support D/F Eles only have overloads and blasting a lightning field for swiftness. They’re most useful in team fights, so if you’re dueling one, don’t worry about killing them. Keeping them out of team fights is a win, unless you’re team sucks and can’t kill players who have no support, or if your team itself has no support specs.
To beat a support Ele team:
- Well timed interrupts on their important heals and Overloads.
- Heavy pressure, especially conditions in order to force CDs and push them away from their teammates.
- Outrotate them.
- Try to put them into fights they don’t want to be in (duels and any fight without teammates).
Good Eles who know what to avoid and save their most important heals for when it’s the most difficult to interrupt are almost impossible to kill with a poor team. Running professions with frequent interrupts the most nightmarish thing for them. Thieves, Mesmers, Warriors and Necros are the greatest professions to maintain pressure and interrupts, and sometimes condition pressure as well. Guardians used to be one of the best against Eles, but now traps don’t daze, so they only have the shield knockback and the F1 pull, as well as Dragon’s Maw, but nobody runs that unless they want to die quickly.
you cant kill support ele 1v1 with anything, dont fight them on a captured node ever on such conditions
Necros kitten on elems.
Like you said, “seems to have infinite condi resistance”… You will never beat an Ele alone if you’re playing condi.
You’re gunna need a power build to take down an Ele 1v1 and with that power build you will need atleast 1 disrupt for when they channel water overload. They die pretty quick unless it’s a foefire mid point kite kitten.
….. And Elementalist.
you cant kill support ele 1v1 with anything, dont fight them on a captured node ever on such conditions
i can kill them on a thief, plenty of interrupts which punish eles for casting anything, steal can rip earth overload so yeah~
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you cant kill support ele 1v1 with anything, dont fight them on a captured node ever on such conditions
Any thief that isn’t a cretin should be able to take it down with pulmonary impact and interrupt spam.
Condi war destroys eles due to spammable cc and good condition spam
Necro takes a massive dump on ele on most builds due to chill spam which wrecks all ele builds.
There’s also plenty of builds that won’t die to the ele at all and even just keeping an ele in a 1v1 is a win for you as they can’t support the team.
As for the OP, what are you using?
As for the OP, what are you using?
You don’t want to know what he runs lol.
its very hard to bring ele down in 1:1 for some classes. As already mentiond interrupt water OL or the healing skill. Also if you play condi and they are build full shouts with double cleanse you get a hard time. Especially as DH. Burn DH can´t win (or the ele is bad) a anti condi ele match. The most cruel oponent for ele is a necromancer (corrupt and condi bomb) in a teamfight. If that one is not focused down it can totaly ruin ele´s day. Warrior is also very hard for ele. Ele can´t reasonable kill it and will slowly loose ground.