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Posted by: Kitt.2567

Kitt.2567

Hi.
I run cond war with pretty high toughness but I take too much direct dmg from power nec when power nec throw someting to me while his transformation (idk what it is but his body color look green when he transformed) it is just too much direct dmg even though i got toughness like 3400.

and his transformation time take too long before he gets back to his original look.

Which weapon would be good to deal with them for warrior if cond war cant get them?
Thxx

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

Jekkt.6045

hammer, necros dont have any stability.

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Posted by: Kitt.2567

Kitt.2567

hammer, necros dont have any stability.

do they get stun or knockdown from my hammer while his transformation?

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

Jekkt.6045

sure. its called death shroud and its like their second hp bar which is 60% of their original hp when they charged it.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

It is his elite with extremely long cool down, it SHOULD be that strong.
It is working as intended, and what you should do is to improve your play-style by dodging his skills and try to fight until his transform is gone.
If you get killed by him quickly by using a condition bunker warrior, truth is you’ll die even faster if you play something else.

Your build should be a direct counter to power build already, you shouldn’t have lost the fight.

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Posted by: thaooo.5320

thaooo.5320

Run away, or use shield block followed by endure pain.

Or use boon strip sigil then CC him to death.

Or constantly walk behind/through him.

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

Jekkt.6045

death shroud is still the same body size http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/lens19775800_1347820439.png

lich form is big green and.. a lich
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8442/8005398678_b5da8b86b2_z.jpg

if its death shroud smack him with hammer, if its lich form just run because its suicide to fight against it without invulnerable, blocks, reflects and protection.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Hi.
body color look green when he transformed) it is just too much direct dmg even though i got toughness like 3400.

and his transformation time take too long before he gets back to his original look.

i think he meant lich form.

lich form has 30 seconds duration, after 30 seconds is up, there is a 180 seconds down time before he can use it again.

from the wiki
“While in Lich Form, the necromancer’s base power is tripled, and base precision and vitality doubled. At level 80, this adds 1832 power, and 916 precision and vitality.”

so yeah, the necro in lich form will deal ridiculous direct damage.

run away if you can, otherwise dodge his attacks.
the ranged attacks pack a lot of punch, but can be easily avoided if you strafe right and left accordingly.

otherwise, get a friend to remove the stability and hammer the living kitten out of him / her.

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Posted by: Kitt.2567

Kitt.2567

I think it was lich form, not death shroud. do they get stun or knockdown while in lich form? also how to deal with lich form nec with cond war build?

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

Jekkt.6045

no they have stability for the full duration. best thing you can do is use sword #2 and fly away. no matter how much armor you have, lich form auto attacks hit for 4-8k.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

I think it was lich form, not death shroud. do they get stun or knockdown while in lich form? also how to deal with lich form nec with cond war build?

they have stability for 30 seconds, so unless you have a sigil to remove boon, you cannot cc them.

if you are a condition warrior, you can try to overload them with lots and lots of conditions and they will go down.

but you need to avoid all those slow moving flying claws of death.

each one can hit you for quite a lot of damage.

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Posted by: Rezz.8019

Rezz.8019

When you see lich form: run until its gone, unless you have many evades. each hit will hurt a lot. When the lich form is gone, just go back and kill him.

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Posted by: XGhoul.7426

XGhoul.7426

You could say it is skill (I don’t consider it) but you need to strafe their bodies or be close enough to lich form so that you can run behind them and their auto’s will miss.

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Posted by: Rezz.8019

Rezz.8019

You could say it is skill (I don’t consider it) but you need to strafe their bodies or be close enough to lich form so that you can run behind them and their auto’s will miss.

Actually: Lich form can hit while they are facing any direction. They can be running away and keep hitting the targets behind them.

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Posted by: XGhoul.7426

XGhoul.7426

You could say it is skill (I don’t consider it) but you need to strafe their bodies or be close enough to lich form so that you can run behind them and their auto’s will miss.

Actually: Lich form can hit while they are facing any direction. They can be running away and keep hitting the targets behind them.

I will reserve judgement until I can test this for myself, but from my experience as long as a 180 degree change is performed after* cast it won’t hit. I’ll edit the response accordingly.

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Posted by: Rezz.8019

Rezz.8019

You could say it is skill (I don’t consider it) but you need to strafe their bodies or be close enough to lich form so that you can run behind them and their auto’s will miss.

Actually: Lich form can hit while they are facing any direction. They can be running away and keep hitting the targets behind them.

I will reserve judgement until I can test this for myself, but from my experience as long as a 180 degree change is performed after* cast it won’t hit. I’ll edit the response accordingly.

It will hit from any direction any time, go test it!

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

i’m not sure its wise of us to help the easiest class in the game to better kill us, but here goes.

if he uses lich form, just keep your distance and strafe until it ends (Pin Down can help here), the projectile moves extremely slowly and it is VERY easy to strafe out of its way with even a small amount of distance.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

i’m not sure its wise of us to help the easiest class in the game to better kill us, but here goes.

if he uses lich form, just keep your distance and strafe until it ends (Pin Down can help here), the projectile moves extremely slowly and it is VERY easy to strafe out of its way with even a small amount of distance.

yeah i met such players before.

i was shooting … shooting ..
pew pew pew

kitten why am i dying instead?
why all my attacks no connect?
kitten they strafed all my attacks!

but during team fight mess i pew pew pew they all drop like flies. so nice.

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Posted by: Sunshine.5014

Sunshine.5014

It is his elite with extremely long cool down, it SHOULD be that strong.

Ele’s tornado has a super long cooldown too, but it’s like trash compare to Lich form. I wish they give Ele a better elite

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Posted by: jportell.2197

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It is his elite with extremely long cool down, it SHOULD be that strong.

Ele’s tornado has a super long cooldown too, but it’s like trash compare to Lich form. I wish they give Ele a better elite

Ever seen tornado form coupled with meteor shower? Yeah… Scary as eff… Just gotta know how to use the elites.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

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If he is forced to use his 180s CD elite in a 1v1 with you, then youre already won, since the point of a power necro is to have theyre whole team scared for a full wipe, not to win 1x 1v1 every 180s. And then lose 2x until elite is back

And heres how you can add some “skill” to youre skill-less condi warior disease: walk left-right left right to cause the projectiles to miss from range, walk and immbilize lich from behind if melee.

If its a teamfight, burst him down ASAP. If youre low, run behind an object, wait 5s for him to retarget another player, burst him down again. If you have a necro/thief/mesmer who can strip his stability, its over for him.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

hammer, necros dont have any stability.

The Op is talking about Lich form in wich case they have a constant stability uptime while being in Lich.
In any case,you will most likely not outdamage him in this form,so dont even try.Get out of range,pin him or slow him down and wait for lich to end before you start smacking again.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

if you are a condition warrior, you can try to overload them with lots and lots of conditions and they will go down.

Nah that will hardly work against a smart necro. The 5th skill in lichform is a full condition wipe on allies (including yourself if you are in range) and boon wipe on enimies. Interestingly though most lichs seem to spam only the aa, so most of the time works regardless…

And warriors can man fight a lich. All you have to go is go melee in such a way that you clip in the lich. The castpoint of the lich aa is a little before the lich, so if you are behind/directly under, it it will miss.

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Posted by: Rezz.8019

Rezz.8019

And warriors can man fight a lich. All you have to go is go melee in such a way that you clip in the lich. The castpoint of the lich aa is a little before the lich, so if you are behind/directly under, it it will miss.

No, it does not miss in that situation, as he actually doesn’t have to face the enemy to attack it.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

If you’re running with either sword OH or a shield, make sure to pack “Reflect Missiles” trait. Three-four Lich’s reflected attacks can easily cause the Necro to panic. Too bad if he’s better than typical dropwell and uses something besides #1.

But in general, if you can’t strip his stability and CC him, LoS him or try to stay at range, applying conditions.

Player in Lich cannot cleanse conditions alone (unless he pre-casts Well of Power) so any better condition presure should force him out of Lich.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

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If you’re running with either sword OH or a shield, make sure to pack “Reflect Missiles” trait. Three-four Lich’s reflected attacks can easily cause the Necro to panic. Too bad if he’s better than typical dropwell and uses something besides #1.

But in general, if you can’t strip his stability and CC him, LoS him or try to stay at range, applying conditions.

Player in Lich cannot cleanse conditions alone (unless he pre-casts Well of Power) so any better condition presure should force him out of Lich.

the lich #5 is a targetable aoe full condi cleanse + full boon rip + some dmg. takes 1,5-2s to cast though, and CD of 30s so you can only use it once

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Posted by: Helly.2597

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Reflect on block, he pops lich use sword offhand block, he gets wrecked.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

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sword + warhorn and mace + shield with berzerker stance, shake it off and bulls charge…. stun em to death, cleanse all condies, dodge around if the necro tries anything then final strike the necro to death.

not saying it is a easy thing to do, nor that the build will fare well against anything else, but it will do the trick.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Why is anyone helping a warrior against a power necro……

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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Why is anyone helping a warrior against a power necro……

Because even when someone is not very skilled, when they ask for advice to deal with a particular problem, they’re working on improving themselves. That’s kind of what this forum is about.

That said, any condition build will usually have a tough time against a necro. By facing them with a condition build, you’re challenging them where they’re strongest (and usually giving them ammo).

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

Why is anyone helping a warrior against a power necro……

Why are you posting in here if you have nothing constructive to add ?

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Posted by: hihey.1075

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If you land your impale and your Pin Down they will melt even in Lich Form. Just dodge their autos through strafe. I think you can even reflect them with sword #5, and they will hurt him a lot since he has no toughness whatsoever.

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Posted by: Silentshoes.1805

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It is his elite with extremely long cool down, it SHOULD be that strong.
It is working as intended, and what you should do is to improve your play-style by dodging his skills and try to fight until his transform is gone.
If you get killed by him quickly by using a condition bunker warrior, truth is you’ll die even faster if you play something else.

Your build should be a direct counter to power build already, you shouldn’t have lost the fight.

You did not answer his question. You merely took the opportunity to basically tell him your opinion that his skill is terrible. Cheap shot.

What he asked is: “Which weapon would be good to deal with them for warrior if cond war cant get them?”

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Posted by: Vanthian.9267

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It is his elite with extremely long cool down, it SHOULD be that strong.

No, no one should have a “I win” button. Is signet of rage that good? No. Is a Guardian’s Renewal that good? No. Rangers Entangle? (lol… ) no. Thieve’s Basilisk Venom? Eh.. maybe if you have the cool down reduction. Mesmer Elites & Elementalists? pfft.. The only other elite that is as decent would be Engineer’s Supply Crate.

Maybe they should make the other elites better to match the power and destruction of Lich Form. What if the Warrior Juggernaut form did 4-7k autos or the Elementalist Tornado?

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Maybe they should make the other elites better to match the power and destruction of Lich Form. What if the Warrior Juggernaut form did 4-7k autos or the Elementalist Tornado?

Ele Tornado can hit 4k easy (heck, Tornado clones can hit that hard), but the knockback radius is larger than the damage radius, so that rarely happens.

Juggernaut has much higher CC and should lose out on damage in comparison.

So, realistically speaking, yes. Other elites are equally powerful.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

Bhawb.7408

There is a reason power Necro hasn’t been seen in competitive play (except very rarely) since 2012, and its not because Lich is too strong or uncounterable.

To OP:
If you have range, literally just spam left and right. The projectiles will try to lead you in the direction you are moving when they are launched, however you aren’t actually moving and they fly wide. If there is a way to remove stability you just can chain CC him, he has basically no defense so just unloading your damage on him might scare him off, any normal defensive measures (damage avoidance) will stop things.

Basically you just want to delay out the duration or down him through it. Worst case, run away and come back, it is a massive CD.

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Posted by: Lotus.1682

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1. Equip Hammer
2. Equip Longbow
3. Call in friendly neighborhood thief to steal Lich Form’s stability
4. Proceed with the Hamboning.
5. xD

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Posted by: BlackBeard.2873

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1. Equip Hammer
2. Equip Longbow
3. Call in friendly neighborhood thief to steal Lich Form’s stability
4. Proceed with the Hamboning.
5. xD

6. After said treatment, make sure to /s “You’ve been HAMBONED!!!”

Also, to translate #4 for those who aren’t sure how to hambone:
You start with your face planted FIRMLY on one side of your keyboard. You then proceed to ROLL your face smoothly towards the other side. Make sure to, and this is critical, KEEP ROLLING your face along that keyboard for a good 20-30 seconds.

Finally, be sure to VERY SKILLFULLY ACTIVELY REACT to his passive, automatic, undodgeable, unavoidable instant-procs of air+fire sigils and chill of death proc. Should he happen to hit you with a random auto-attack and proc those things, then I guess you should have been more skillful in anticipating that and not being hit by anything, ever. You really do just need to learn to play. /sarcasm

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Posted by: SaintSnow.6593

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It is his elite with extremely long cool down, it SHOULD be that strong.

No, no one should have a “I win” button. Is signet of rage that good? No. Is a Guardian’s Renewal that good? No. Rangers Entangle? (lol… ) no. Thieve’s Basilisk Venom? Eh.. maybe if you have the cool down reduction. Mesmer Elites & Elementalists? pfft.. The only other elite that is as decent would be Engineer’s Supply Crate.

Maybe they should make the other elites better to match the power and destruction of Lich Form. What if the Warrior Juggernaut form did 4-7k autos or the Elementalist Tornado?

Since when was Lich form a “I win button”? More like a “here I am, make my death as quick and painless as possible button”. They do high damage yes but they also take damage very hard. I don’t run condi war but any burn, bleeds with a solid pin down will force him to either leave it to cleans or die. If you run endure pain, that one utility will hard counter that entire elite bc all they are going to do is auto attack anyways doing no damage at all while you have a field day on his corpse.
In all honesty, ever since pvp beta, anytime someone uses a trans elite, your hard focused, especially Lich form since it goes down fast from any damage. As for stuff like ele tornado, lol just throw a little confusion in the mix.

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

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Which weapon would be good to deal with them for warrior if cond war cant get them?
Thxx

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Posted by: Simon.3794

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1. Equip Hammer
2. Equip Longbow
3. Call in friendly neighborhood thief to steal Lich Form’s stability
4. Proceed with the Hamboning.
5. xD

so you still have to 2v1 him. i wonder who can’t be 2v1ed.

any way, lich is a bit pain of kitten for warrior to handle, cuz you can’t just strip his stab, it takes some skill to duel a lich
stop using condi sword bunk, and use some real builds, even hambow takes more skill then that.

time your dodges and lb4 to avoid his AAs, and apply them weakness using hammer 2, then you can kill him before he kills you.

oh and heres a trick, whenever close, dodge to his back. then he will be forced to turn around = less time to spam them AAs.

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Posted by: zone.1073

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Celestial axebow vs power necro:

http://www.twitch.tv/zonegw/c/4382822

http://www.twitch.tv/zonegw/c/4382847

It can be a challenging match-up, but most of the power necro’s damage can be avoided or mitigated through good positioning.

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

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Posted by: ArcTheFallen.7682

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Not sure if thread serious or not given Kitt’s ranking.

But if serious, in a 1v1, I would just leave a point and come back unless you can dodge the auto by strafing/LOS or that in/out trick someone mentioned.

If in a team fight, get one of your teammates to boon strip stab and/or focus on him immediately.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

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1. Equip Hammer
2. Equip Longbow
3. Call in friendly neighborhood thief to steal Lich Form’s stability
4. Proceed with the Hamboning.
5. xD

Gramaticaly correct would be “hambotting” hence you should refer to all wariors as “hambots”, like many of us already do.

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

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If a necro enters lich form you do one of 2 things….or both:

1.) Kite….his auto attack is all he will use, just move around and he can’t hurt you

2.) use LoS…oh hes a giant lich now? Use that nearby lamp post to completely negate all of his damage.

Once Lich ends….beat the !$@# out of him, because power necro without lich is nothing before your might (stacking)

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Posted by: Vanthian.9267

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So, realistically speaking, yes. Other elites are equally powerful.

I will gladly switch either of Rampage or Tornado with Lich Form.

Lich Form auto (no cap? pierce effect, can cast backwards) 3/4 second activation 986 (base) damage at 1200 range.

Mark for Death: Isn’t worth the time to mention, I agree.

Chilling Wind: 409 damage 1/4 activation 3 seconds chill 300 knockback 450 radius.

Mark of Horror. 25 second cool down but… damage variable dependent on minions.
“This skill is notable for having no method of preventing its effects, despite being a ground-targeted AoE.” Summon 5 minions.

Grim Specter: 1,621 damage, Rip all boons off foes in 240 radius, Cure all conditions on Allies 240 radius, … oh at 1200 range and unblockable. 30 second cool down.

vs.

Rampage: Chain time: 2 seconds 792 damage 1/2 daze, 2 second cripple, 5 vulnerability for 5 seconds… oh at 130 range (it can cleave but… yeah…)

Dash: Range 1000 range, 365 damage, leap finisher 6 second cool down…that has a very hard time hitting the target (much like Rush).

Throw Boulder: 304 damage, 900 range, 12 second cool down, 2 second stun.

Kick: One foe only, 183 damage, 300 push back, 300 range, 6 second cool down

Seismic Leap: 244 damage, Knock down 2 seconds, radius 240 range 600.

There is a vast gap in Transformations elites and Lich Form isn’t on the bottom (neither is Plague for that matter). I will say this game is one of the first where melee multipliers are less than ranged for damage.

Also, lets not forget the most important part of Rampage: “For the duration of this skill, the user is enlarged and their footsteps make quaking sounds”.

Edit: Don’t get me wrong, not saying it is “overpowered” or anything. Just saying that, as elites go, it is a top contender if not the best.

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Posted by: Terrahero.9358

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Do those autoattacks from Lichform not lock on to a target, meaning you can very easily side-step or juke them?

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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Do those autoattacks from Lichform not lock on to a target, meaning you can very easily side-step or juke them?

Correct. No homing whatsoever.

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Posted by: manveruppd.7601

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Yeah they have stability in Lich Form but it can be stripped and they can’t get it back. If you have nobody in the fight who can strip it just use line of sight to avoid their autoattack, it only lasts 20" and then you can kill them easy as they have no escapes, no stability, and very little damage mitigation.

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