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poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

What’s your screenshot supposed to show? One team had two Mesmers and another had just one. The final score difference was 58 points.

I wouldn’t stack two Mesmers on a team and I wouldn’t call that the most OP class stacking comp…. double ele or double rev is more toxic. Imo.

Your pic doesn’t show much of a concern here.

Ayrilana.1396:

What’s your screenshot supposed to show? One team had two Mesmers and another had just one. The final score difference was 58 points.

son this is legend, 58 point difference here means more than 0-500 in your average ruby match, besides enemies have made plenty of mistakes including us stealing beasts and stuff but simply pressure from 2 mesmers was insane

when you have a class that can be present in 2 places at once while being one of the best duelists in game you cant really do anything about him decap-skitten outside of swarming the mesmer with 2+ people which puts your team at a huge disadvantage

Lexander.4579:

Ayrilana.1396:

What’s your screenshot supposed to show? One team had two Mesmers and another had just one. The final score difference was 58 points.

son this is legend, 58 point difference here means more than 0-500 in your average ruby match, besides enemies have made plenty of mistakes including us stealing beasts and stuff but simply pressure from 2 mesmers was insane

when you have a class that can be present in 2 places at once while being one of the best duelists in game you cant really do anything about him decap-skitten outside of swarming the mesmer with 2+ people which puts your team at a huge disadvantage

You thinking you’re something special for being in legend is cute. Good luck with the rant though.

Typical rant from legendary that rode the lucktrain.

You know, us plebs… we’ve had to content with mesmers long before hitting legendary… which is probably how us plebs know, what to do to win those matches.

Yasi.9065:

Typical rant from legendary that rode the lucktrain.

You know, us plebs… we’ve had to content with mesmers long before hitting legendary… which is probably how us plebs know, what to do to win those matches.

chances to see a mesmer who is able to do anything other than double moa in matches below legendary are low though so its likely you dont quite have an idea what mesmer can do

Ah yes, I forgot… everything below legendary is fodder…

But… YOU made a rant thread complaining about double mesmer team… even though you got one mesmer on your team yourself… thats actually more than I usually get… and still Im not getting outrotated by them… legendary, diamond or ruby.

Your team had a thief. Of course you lost.

Lexander.4579:

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

condi thief versus 2 condi mesmer/2 necro… ye its bad. Your team lost cause of you, not cause enemy team had 2 mesmers. L2p. Mic drop.

Also, a 58 point difference in Legend is nothing. If anything, comebacks can be a lot larger in legend because good players should know how to generate and maintain momentum. Just look at some of the proleague games with 150+ point comebacks.

Hilarious. Another “nerf mesmers plz” thread and this time from someone who LITERALLY REFUSES to even TRY playing more than one class .

if you or that other low scoring ranger were a necro you woulda won.
condies op man.

funny how the same people who whined about mesmer being underpowered are white knighting for that class even in that thread despite without any buffs “overnerfed mesmer” steadily became meta once more just as i called it 1.5 month ago

i pity them for being in such denial

You’re being so salty over one match. rip in pips.

Lexander.4579:

son this is legend, 58 point difference here means more than 0-500 in your average ruby match

lol

…lol

yeah right. no it doesnt. lol.

tsawr.7905:

You’re being so salty over one match. rip in pips.

if that was only one match i’d never mind it, unfortunately since metabattle builds spread like a plague and a good player can abuse mesmer to ridiculous extent the situation is going to become as sad as in s1 very soon unless anet will take measures in the coming patch

Dude

Get gud

And l2p and how to counter mesmer … next

Lexander.4579:

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

I don’t understand why you had to hide your own skill-bar.

The only conclusion that comes to mind is that you yourself were playing condi-cheese.

Velimere.7685:

Lexander.4579:

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

I don’t understand why you had to hide your own skill-bar.

The only conclusion that comes to mind is that you yourself were playing condi-cheese.

im playing my own build which none of metabattle heroes know so i prefer to protect my intellectual property

Lol, he is playing a crappy build since it’s non meta. What a troll and he co.plains about losing a game:

Dude, here is an advice to win games you have to play a Metta build. Try metabattle and good luck.

Ahhahaa

Lexander.4579:

Velimere.7685:

Lexander.4579:

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

I don’t understand why you had to hide your own skill-bar.

The only conclusion that comes to mind is that you yourself were playing condi-cheese.

im playing my own build which none of metabattle heroes know so i prefer to protect my intellectual property

lol “intellectual property”

Lexander.4579:

Ayrilana.1396:

What’s your screenshot supposed to show? One team had two Mesmers and another had just one. The final score difference was 58 points.

son this is legend, 58 point difference here means more than 0-500 in your average ruby match, besides enemies have made plenty of mistakes including us stealing beasts and stuff but simply pressure from 2 mesmers was insane

when you have a class that can be present in 2 places at once while being one of the best duelists in game you cant really do anything about him decap-skitten outside of swarming the mesmer with 2+ people which puts your team at a huge disadvantage

Oh please…

Fivedawgs.4267:

Lol, he is playing a crappy build since it’s non meta. What a troll and he co.plains about losing a game:

Dude, here is an advice to win games you have to play a Metta build. Try metabattle and good luck.

Ahhahaa

good to have sub-legend players care so much about me to give me advices

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

As long you don’t provide video of your game play i assume it’s l2p issue, you are not yet good enough to face 2 mesmers. Git Gud Son ololol.

Lexander.4579:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Lol, he is playing a crappy build since it’s non meta. What a troll and he co.plains about losing a game:

Dude, here is an advice to win games you have to play a Metta build. Try metabattle and good luck.

Ahhahaa

good to have sub-legend players care so much about me to give me advices

Dude acting like getting legendary is something special, top kek.

Well, I couldn’t careless what you subhuman think, I think I understand the game pretty well and I have no trouble beating mesmer. So, the op should Post a video if he wants an advice or use a meta build

Fivedawgs.4267:

Well, I couldn’t careless what you subhuman think, I think I understand the game pretty well and I have no trouble beating mesmer. So, the op should Post a video if he wants an advice or use a meta build

maybe thats because those mesmers are emerald or something ranked

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

Wow, you guys take yourself a bit too seriously. Really, that sound idiotic and a bit scary…

Beside, I think you missed the irony of his post which I thought was well deserved.

Lexander.4579:

Velimere.7685:

Lexander.4579:

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

I don’t understand why you had to hide your own skill-bar.

The only conclusion that comes to mind is that you yourself were playing condi-cheese.

im playing my own build which none of metabattle heroes know so i prefer to protect my intellectual property

“no my build is super secret” is code for “I’m actually way too embarrassed of what I’m playing to show everyone”.

Fay.2357:

Lexander.4579:

Velimere.7685:

Lexander.4579:

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

I don’t understand why you had to hide your own skill-bar.

The only conclusion that comes to mind is that you yourself were playing condi-cheese.

im playing my own build which none of metabattle heroes know so i prefer to protect my intellectual property

“no my build is super secret” is code for “I’m actually way too embarrassed of what I’m playing to show everyone”.

if you’ll ever make your own build which will get u to legendary let me know how embarrassed you are

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

thread just keeps making me laugh

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

along comes someone in legendary who played 500 matches and sucks and gives advice and then what?

insanemaniac.2456:

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

along comes someone in legendary who played 500 matches and sucks and gives advice and then what?

legendary in 500 matches isnt that bad either, some people get bad luck climbing the ladder but they still climb instead of going on forums and whining about “always bad team”

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

along comes someone in legendary who played 500 matches and sucks and gives advice and then what?

legendary in 500 matches isnt that bad either, some people get bad luck climbing the ladder but they still climb instead of going on forums and whining about “always bad team”

ok. 1000 matches. youre missing the point.

Seems to me mesmers are the most resilient and creative bunch in this game! They have had interrupt build nerfed to nothing, they have had crono bunker nerfed to nothing. And still they manage to have people qq about yet another build. Condi mesmer is nothing new, yea they get 1 more rotation with continuum shift, but most will save for 2x moa especially if the other team has a necro. I love that necro has yet another hard counter as they cried ele out of buisness. Im sure they will try to cry crono nerf now. I will collect your tears, they taste so salty

eureeka.5368:

Seems to me mesmers are the most resilient and creative bunch in this game! They have had interrupt build nerfed to nothing, they have had crono bunker nerfed to nothing. And still they manage to have people qq about yet another build. Condi mesmer is nothing new, yea they get 1 more rotation with continuum shift, but most will save for 2x moa especially if the other team has a necro. I love that necro has yet another hard counter as they cried ele out of buisness. Im sure they will try to cry crono nerf now. I will collect your tears, they taste so salty

Seriously, in 4 years… it’s the first time a MAIN THIEF QQ about MESMER being OP.

Is there any other thief that want to “second” the OP grinder post?

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

along comes someone in legendary who played 500 matches and sucks and gives advice and then what?

legendary in 500 matches isnt that bad either, some people get bad luck climbing the ladder but they still climb instead of going on forums and whining about “always bad team”

500 match in 30 dayz.

It’s 16.6666666 match a day.

We play average 3 match a hour.

This means kitten (five.five kitten filter) hour grind per day.

Well… this is almost a second job.

But what you didn’t understand here… is that, anyone can grind games like you did… but not anyone can play matches versus top players all day long.

But well, thank you to show us all that the Grinding Ranking system of Gw2 is badly interpret by bad players (or dev fanboi) as Prestige.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Legend-Queue-Times/page/2#post6046284

It’s ridiculous, because by the end of season 2… many grinders would be getting there anyway.

All ranking system that only count win or lose are bad. You need to compare that win or lose versus WHO.

Like the old leaderboard system was. I assure everyone that 90% of the legendary players would never be top 200 on the old leaderboard system.

Uh, Mesmers aren’t overpowered, it’s the kitten Necros/Reapers that need to be nerfed so kitten much.

Seems OP has trouble killing mesmers? This is a learn to play issue and is a cry for anet to not only come up with a better tutorial but an actual whole transformation of societies current education system so that the OP instead of saying, “I’m not good enough, please make these other players worse” will have a mental shift and think, “Hmm, I probably could have dodged those shatters better, NEXT TIME I WILL.” Then eventually OP wouldn’t think mesmers are supreme and this thread wouldn’t have existed. Kudos to you OP for idealism and progressivism!

Jourdelune.7456:

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

along comes someone in legendary who played 500 matches and sucks and gives advice and then what?

legendary in 500 matches isnt that bad either, some people get bad luck climbing the ladder but they still climb instead of going on forums and whining about “always bad team”

500 match in 30 dayz.

It’s 16.6666666 match a day.

We play average 3 match a hour.

This means kitten (five.five kitten filter) hour grind per day.

Well… this is almost a second job.

But what you didn’t understand here… is that, anyone can grind games like you did… but not anyone can play matches versus top players all day long.

But well, thank you to show us all that the Grinding Ranking system of Gw2 is badly interpret by bad players (or dev fanboi) as Prestige.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Legend-Queue-Times/page/2#post6046284

It’s ridiculous, because by the end of season 2… many grinders would be getting there anyway.

All ranking system that only count win or lose are bad. You need to compare that win or lose versus WHO.

Like the old leaderboard system was. I assure everyone that 90% of the legendary players would never be top 200 on the old leaderboard system.

i play about 20 matches a week because for me this game grows boring fast but some people enjoy playing gw2 as their main game

16,6 matches per day with every match+queue+ready time being about 15 minutes is only about 4 hours of gaming, i dont think we’re living in such age when 4 hours of gaming per day is something to frown upon unless you are living in some sort of village

Lexander.4579:

16,6 matches per day with every match+queue+ready time being about 15 minutes is only about 4 hours of gaming, i dont think we’re living in such age when 4 hours of gaming per day is something to frown upon unless you are living in some sort of village

Most folks with families, responsibilities or jobs would probably disagree with you.

Lexander.4579:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Well, I couldn’t careless what you subhuman think, I think I understand the game pretty well and I have no trouble beating mesmer. So, the op should Post a video if he wants an advice or use a meta build

maybe thats because those mesmers are emerald or something ranked

Yup [DnT] emerald mesmer… or maybe lexical was emerald… Dude do you want advice or not??? If yes. Post a video so I can help you. It easy to make mistake against a mesmer; so l2p or post a video so I can help you!!!

ranciddy.8243:

Lexander.4579:

16,6 matches per day with every match+queue+ready time being about 15 minutes is only about 4 hours of gaming, i dont think we’re living in such age when 4 hours of gaming per day is something to frown upon unless you are living in some sort of village

Most folks with families, responsibilities or jobs would probably disagree with you.

pvp in mmorpg is typically the sport of bachelors, pal

Eurantien.4632:

Seems OP has trouble killing mesmers? This is a learn to play issue and is a cry for anet to not only come up with a better tutorial but an actual whole transformation of societies current education system so that the OP instead of saying, “I’m not good enough, please make these other players worse” will have a mental shift and think, “Hmm, I probably could have dodged those shatters better, NEXT TIME I WILL.” Then eventually OP wouldn’t think mesmers are supreme and this thread wouldn’t have existed. Kudos to you OP for idealism and progressivism!

Lol what eurantien said lmao… L2p.indeed ; a video would indeed help

Lexander.4579:

ranciddy.8243:

Lexander.4579:

16,6 matches per day with every match+queue+ready time being about 15 minutes is only about 4 hours of gaming, i dont think we’re living in such age when 4 hours of gaming per day is something to frown upon unless you are living in some sort of village

Most folks with families, responsibilities or jobs would probably disagree with you.

pvp in mmorpg is typically the sport of bachelors, pal

So I’m not allowed to play or give advice because I have a successful job and a family?

ranciddy.8243:

Lexander.4579:

ranciddy.8243:

Lexander.4579:

16,6 matches per day with every match+queue+ready time being about 15 minutes is only about 4 hours of gaming, i dont think we’re living in such age when 4 hours of gaming per day is something to frown upon unless you are living in some sort of village

Most folks with families, responsibilities or jobs would probably disagree with you.

pvp in mmorpg is typically the sport of bachelors, pal

So I’m not allowed to play or give advice because I have a successful job and a family?

Or maybe because you know something he doesn’t. .. dont bother with the troll dude, obviously he doesn’t want to learn/improve.

Lmao, I bet he can’t rotate and he ais also not using a metabattle build … lmao… post a video so we can help you leXander. . Please listen to us and don’t be so defensive.