remove invisibility in pvp enviroments
Fun fact: melee weapon hit stealthed enemies anyway.
How did it ruin it? many classes can go invis, You still can hurt them, CC them and kill them.
If they are invis they arnt attacking you, its easy to know where they are going aswel..
I love when Thieves SR, I know for 4 sec they are not moving away from that SMALL aoe spot, I just load aoes there and most of the time they are downed.
Mesmers going invis I know they are trying to get away and are hurt, or trying to get off a Clone, if they are hurt I push more pressure, if they using it for offensive I just dodge/block/place cc’s down.
Rangers…. dont need to go invis, if they do I know I will be shot out within seconds… and just prepare my dodge/block.
TL;DR L2P
Guess you’ll never be playing PvP again.
Since it’s working as intended, it’ll never happen.
Since it’ll never happen, can we have your stuff?
Invis in gw2 doesnt really do anything besides let a player take a breather.
Warrior has Invul to damage/condis
Ele has many types of full Invuls
Ranger again and Invul
Mesmer/Thief can stealth/evade
Necro has 2 health pools
Engi has MANY tools/tricks, blocks/invul/invis (but all short and spread out)
Guard has many blocks and an Invul
IMO stealth is the least of the problems, Invul while doing damage imo is worst, a Warrior Poping 2 stances with take 0 damage and not able to add condis for 4-6sec While attacking you.
What does stealth do again??? Oh… lets you walk away and get 1 free unseen attack.. that still can be blocked/stop while you still get get hit……
c’mon bud, the thief has to have something to gather his confidence enough to melee me when i’m spamming bombs on point.
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What on earth? As people have already pointed out, invulns are 10x more annoying than stealth, since you can still kill someone who is stealthed just by playing smart.
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I will not be playing pvp in any form until this happens, ZERO invisibility. This mechanic absolutely without a doubt has ruined the pvp game for me. FLUX IT!
dont let the door hit you on the way out.
Bring PPK back to WvW!!!
I didn’t know it was broken…so if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it….
Invis is more annoying than anything. It can be countered with AoEs, well timed dodges. (I was actually able to pull it off ONCE. Started counting as soon as thief went invis (3 secs.) and then dodged. Evaded his backstab and took him out. He started calling me a noob too :P But my point is, it’s annoying yes, but not OP and certainly not game breaking.
P.S.: I generally play either Necro or Ranger in PVP
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Don’t listen to all these thieves, everyone knows you’re right.
I already predicted it will ruin Stronghold.
Don’t listen to all these thieves, everyone knows you’re right.
I already predicted it will ruin Stronghold.
right cause only a thief would understand how its not gaming breaking whatsoever.
/sarcasm
more than 1 class has stealth options. thieves have to spec for stealth for it to be truly useful which means they are giving something up for that. just cause youre bad doesnt mean a class or type of skill is broke.
ill admit i thought it was broken too, until i played one and realized its not at all. sometimes i think people are under the impression that stealth=invulnerable. which clearly shows a lack of understand the game.
Bring PPK back to WvW!!!
I see you’re complaining about stealth, but why? Why has it ruined your fun? What do you intent to add to compensate for such a huge nerf to two professions?
Try play a thief and mesmer, then come back and complain about it ruining your fun
i don’t think this went the way he imagined
Well, I would gladly trade stealth for the OPness of an ele or an engi.
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This mechanic absolutely without a doubt has ruined the pvp game for me. FLUX IT!
Fighting thieves is my favorite part of PvP.
I will not be playing pvp in any form until this happens, ZERO invisibility. This mechanic absolutely without a doubt has ruined the pvp game for me. FLUX IT!
Always good to see new players join the game. I haven’t seen a post like this in 2 years.
I will not be playing pvp in any form until this happens, ZERO invisibility. This mechanic absolutely without a doubt has ruined the pvp game for me. FLUX IT!
You won’t be missed.
So long!
Well, I would gladly trade stealth for the OPness of an ele or an engi.
engi has stealth, oh and they have really obvious weakness too.
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Another fun fact: channeled skills still hit invis enemies.
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The only thing I’d change is that you’re revealed instantly when downed. Hate thieves who will still stay in stealth for 15 seconds after I’ve downed them from SR.
#seenothingrelevant
#movealong
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yea stealth is very op, it so op that everyone is going enrage if they see a shadowrefuege… haha
autoattack is also op, anet should fix it. maybe just one attack for every profession so its absolutly balanced.
ok, just a joke.
please try to play a thief, the “master of stealth” and you will see.
btw, which arguments do u have against stealth?
cheers
What did I just read? Can’t tell if troll…or? Stealth is not OP, play more and you will get used to it.
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I love how someone can play a 2 year old game for the first time, and then demand that core mechanic be removed.
Such entitlement…
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In a few months time, this guy will be posting in the PvP confessions thread “I used to think stealth was OP”.
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As a Mesmer, I’m pretty used to such a …
Wait for it..
Cry of Frustration!
edit: ugh.. Mailmail. You ninja’d my cheesy pun!
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In a few months time, this guy will be posting in the PvP confessions thread “I used to think stealth was OP”.
In a few months time the PvP forum section will be flooded with “Stealth is OP” threads. PvP’ers don’t comprehend how annoying stealth is. When Stronghold comes out you will.
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As a Mesmer, I’m pretty used to such a …
Wait for it..
Cry of Frustration!
edit: ugh.. Mailmail. You ninja’d my cheesy pun!
Thanks! I managed to wake my girlfriend up when this made me burst into laugh xD
In a few months time, this guy will be posting in the PvP confessions thread “I used to think stealth was OP”.
In a few months time the PvP forum section will be flooded with “Stealth is OP” threads. PvP’ers don’t comprehend how annoying stealth is. When Stronghold comes out you will… you will…
It’s annoying, but that’s it. The extent of it’s power is to disengage and sneak past someone without them noticing. But that doesn’t make it OP, that’s merely a mechanic. Just that how blocking is a mechanic made for avoiding burst, which is obviously powerful but not OP. Or how immobilise allow you to land a burst (unless they block, lol), but that doesn’t make immobilise OP.
All these mechanics are powerful, but they are unique rather than OP.
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Stealth is fine on Thief, it’s just so braindead on Mesmer or Ranger.
Stealth is fine on Thief, it’s just so braindead on Mesmer or Ranger.
It’s braindead on PU mesmer.
That condition access like high torment, confusion and bleed stacks with low time window is disturbing.
In a few months time, this guy will be posting in the PvP confessions thread “I used to think stealth was OP”.
In a few months time the PvP forum section will be flooded with “Stealth is OP” threads. PvP’ers don’t comprehend how annoying stealth is. When Stronghold comes out you will… you will…
It’s annoying, but that’s it. The extent of it’s power is to disengage and sneak past someone without them noticing. But that doesn’t make it OP, that’s merely a mechanic. Just that how blocking is a mechanic made for avoiding burst, which is obviously powerful but not OP. Or how immobilise allow you to land a burst (unless they block, lol), but that doesn’t make immobilise OP.
All these mechanics are powerful, but they are unique rather than OP.
It is a mechanic that plays to our basest biology as human beings (I’m talking about the actual player here not the toon). And that is why it is more than annoying.
We evolved as predators. Sight being our primary sense. And without it we feel helpless, fear, unwhole. We don’t like being the prey.
That’s why people are afraid of the dark. The darkness is dangerous because we can’t see. An unseen enemy is far far worse than a known one.
Psychologically and in countless surveys the sense we would least like to lose is sight. By a wide margin.
These reasons are why stealth engenders such repugnant reactions. Moreso than other mechanics.
Add that to the fact that how you describe is not how Thieves use stealth And let’s face it, when someone talks about Stealth being OP they are talking about Thieves.
The Thief actually gets bonus damage when attacking from Stealth. So its not simply a defensive mechanic, or a disengage mechanic. When facing an invisible enemy we become the prey. All those base emotions that are built into us through eons of evolution come out.
The Thief becomes the phantom in the dark. Your worst nightmare. And you can’t get away. In the dark. You become the prey.
kitten I should write a psychology paper on this.
Invis in gw2 doesnt really do anything besides let a player take a breather.
Warrior has Invul to damage/condis
Ele has many types of full Invuls
Ranger again and Invul
Mesmer/Thief can stealth/evade
Necro has 2 health pools
Engi has MANY tools/tricks, blocks/invul/invis (but all short and spread out)
Guard has many blocks and an InvulIMO stealth is the least of the problems, Invul while doing damage imo is worst, a Warrior Poping 2 stances with take 0 damage and not able to add condis for 4-6sec While attacking you.
What does stealth do again??? Oh… lets you walk away and get 1 free unseen attack.. that still can be blocked/stop while you still get get hit……
Invulnerability usually have 40+ second cd.
Thief can stealth again very easily after a 4 second reveal.
4x Necromancer, 3x Mesmer, 4x Guardian, 4x Thief, 4 Revenant
I will not be playing pvp in any form until this happens, ZERO invisibility. This mechanic absolutely without a doubt has ruined the pvp game for me. FLUX IT!
Invis in gw2 doesnt really do anything besides let a player take a breather.
Warrior has Invul to damage/condis
Ele has many types of full Invuls
Ranger again and Invul
Mesmer/Thief can stealth/evade
Necro has 2 health pools
Engi has MANY tools/tricks, blocks/invul/invis (but all short and spread out)
Guard has many blocks and an InvulIMO stealth is the least of the problems, Invul while doing damage imo is worst, a Warrior Poping 2 stances with take 0 damage and not able to add condis for 4-6sec While attacking you.
What does stealth do again??? Oh… lets you walk away and get 1 free unseen attack.. that still can be blocked/stop while you still get get hit……
Invulnerability usually have 40+ second cd.
Thief can stealth again very easily after a 4 second reveal.
And using initiative that could otherwise be used for dodging (if s/d) or blinding (if d/p) an attack.
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Don’t listen to all these thieves, everyone knows you’re right.
I already predicted it will ruin Stronghold.
Aye,
While the enemy leaves base, I stealthy enter there base and go in for the kill
Order of the Whispers Special Forces, came, saw and kicked that Guild Lord butt.
All you do is stealth, backstab and steal and another backstab, down he goes! His minions didn’t even see it coming.
Invis in gw2 doesnt really do anything besides let a player take a breather.
Warrior has Invul to damage/condis
Ele has many types of full Invuls
Ranger again and Invul
Mesmer/Thief can stealth/evade
Necro has 2 health pools
Engi has MANY tools/tricks, blocks/invul/invis (but all short and spread out)
Guard has many blocks and an InvulIMO stealth is the least of the problems, Invul while doing damage imo is worst, a Warrior Poping 2 stances with take 0 damage and not able to add condis for 4-6sec While attacking you.
What does stealth do again??? Oh… lets you walk away and get 1 free unseen attack.. that still can be blocked/stop while you still get get hit……
Invulnerability usually have 40+ second cd.
Thief can stealth again very easily after a 4 second reveal.
And using initiative that could otherwise be used for dodging (if s/d) or blinding (if d/p) an attack.
Backstab cost 0 initiative.
4x Necromancer, 3x Mesmer, 4x Guardian, 4x Thief, 4 Revenant
Invis in gw2 doesnt really do anything besides let a player take a breather.
Warrior has Invul to damage/condis
Ele has many types of full Invuls
Ranger again and Invul
Mesmer/Thief can stealth/evade
Necro has 2 health pools
Engi has MANY tools/tricks, blocks/invul/invis (but all short and spread out)
Guard has many blocks and an InvulIMO stealth is the least of the problems, Invul while doing damage imo is worst, a Warrior Poping 2 stances with take 0 damage and not able to add condis for 4-6sec While attacking you.
What does stealth do again??? Oh… lets you walk away and get 1 free unseen attack.. that still can be blocked/stop while you still get get hit……
Invulnerability usually have 40+ second cd.
Thief can stealth again very easily after a 4 second reveal.
And using initiative that could otherwise be used for dodging (if s/d) or blinding (if d/p) an attack.
Backstab cost 0 initiative.
And stealthing as d/p costs you 2 skills that both use initiative.
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Invis in gw2 doesnt really do anything besides let a player take a breather.
Warrior has Invul to damage/condis
Ele has many types of full Invuls
Ranger again and Invul
Mesmer/Thief can stealth/evade
Necro has 2 health pools
Engi has MANY tools/tricks, blocks/invul/invis (but all short and spread out)
Guard has many blocks and an InvulIMO stealth is the least of the problems, Invul while doing damage imo is worst, a Warrior Poping 2 stances with take 0 damage and not able to add condis for 4-6sec While attacking you.
What does stealth do again??? Oh… lets you walk away and get 1 free unseen attack.. that still can be blocked/stop while you still get get hit……
Invulnerability usually have 40+ second cd.
Thief can stealth again very easily after a 4 second reveal.
And using initiative that could otherwise be used for dodging (if s/d) or blinding (if d/p) an attack.
Backstab cost 0 initiative.
And stealthing as d/p costs you 2 skills that both use initiative.
And when you do not attack, you can regen all your initiative back easily.
4x Necromancer, 3x Mesmer, 4x Guardian, 4x Thief, 4 Revenant
Not sure which is funnier, thieves telling people to l2p in regards to stealth or watching them complain about channels skills.
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“The jealous are troublesome to others, but certainly a torment to themselves.”
Don’t listen to all these thieves, everyone knows you’re right.
I already predicted it will ruin Stronghold.
Aye,
While the enemy leaves base, I stealthy enter there base and go in for the kill
Order of the Whispers Special Forces, came, saw and kicked that Guild Lord butt.All you do is stealth, backstab and steal and another backstab, down he goes! His minions didn’t even see it coming.
one rambles constantly and plays on guild server vs guildies (they farm dailies and let one team win all day) – claims he is good and stealth is op
The other one can’t take a camp in WvW solo and also claims stealth is op in a game mode that has yet to be released
and the OP just installed the game and also claims stealth is op
They all have one thing in common – L2P
Stealth itself is OP, however because of completly different reasons and has nothing with class balance since it can’t be balanced. There are many reasons why, but I guess it’s worthless to even discuss it, because I doubt that such ‘core’ mechanics will be changed ever.
stop being so basic. nearly every theif is melee, when they stealth they are going to go up to you and try and stab you. you might no know where they are when they disappear, but you do know where they are going. AOE at your feet and/or auto attacking while rotating (so they cant backstab) are easy counters.
most theives i fight are idiots and will come into my AOEs and die.
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Don’t listen to all these thieves, everyone knows you’re right.
I already predicted it will ruin Stronghold.
Aye,
While the enemy leaves base, I stealthy enter there base and go in for the kill
Order of the Whispers Special Forces, came, saw and kicked that Guild Lord butt.All you do is stealth, backstab and steal and another backstab, down he goes! His minions didn’t even see it coming.
one rambles constantly and plays on guild server vs guildies (they farm dailies and let one team win all day) – claims he is good and stealth is op
The other one can’t take a camp in WvW solo and also claims stealth is op in a game mode that has yet to be released
and the OP just installed the game and also claims stealth is op
They all have one thing in common – L2P
Take a good look at the picture.
Take a deeper look at the picture.
Reread my post.
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stop being so basic. nearly every theif is melee, when they stealth they are going to go up to you and try and stab you. you might no know where they are when they disappear, but you do know where they are going. AOE at your feet and/or auto attacking while rotating (so they cant backstab) are easy counters.
most theives i fight are idiots and will come into my AOEs and die.
it really does amaze me how under used the shortbow is for so many thieves.
Bring PPK back to WvW!!!
This is absolute trolololgold when it is Daily Thief Winner day:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Sic_%27Em%22
stop being so basic. nearly every theif is melee, when they stealth they are going to go up to you and try and stab you. you might no know where they are when they disappear, but you do know where they are going. AOE at your feet and/or auto attacking while rotating (so they cant backstab) are easy counters.
most theives i fight are idiots and will come into my AOEs and die.
it really does amaze me how under used the shortbow is for so many thieves.
i main engineer, if the run around bowing me like a goon i just kill them with my rifle. regardless, most of them just jump into my AOEs, lose half health retreat in stealth then attempt the same strategy. they always die or run.
staying calm and not chasing them is important. they hunger for your blood. they are wearing their zerker amulet and just want big crits and big numbers. bait them, their health pools are so small one goof will destroy them- and guess what you can cause these goofs!
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