Guild Wars 2

S. ele. guardian.
A: engy , ranger.
B, necro, mesmer. …thief by a hair, but the lowest of these three.
f. warrior.

Honestly fighting vs a warrior is a joke now. I used to die a fair bit to warriors as they are sometimes so relentless and will burst you down. Now I can make mistakes and usually still beat them.

My necro has been severely nerfed with the HUGE nerf to my best skill – epidemic. Ranger seems down a peg or too now as well. This patch probably changed the meta more than any other which is something at least.

My list:
The best class
Ele – Still got that mobility and healing. The meta is less favourable to them now with so many engis running that build though. The best class and on spirit watch just brokenly good.
Very strong
Mesmer – the true king of burst now imo
Guardian – Very strong and dps guardian alot better compared to the other roamers than before the patch imo.
Strong
Engineer – strong now as everything else went down. Was already decent before the patch
Medium
Ranger – beast master less of a problem now with quickness nerf imo
Necro – best build nerfed alot but probably not as much as other classes
Thief – still can gank people at least so its ok if played well. Very high skill cap imo
Really needs help now
Warrior – Its still not awful but really does need help now. Before the patch 100b build was really good imo and saw top level play because it was decent. Now that build has been gutted

I been experimenting alot of what to replace epidemic with and I dont like any of the options so just go for signet of the locust. I think it is underrated to be honest. Mobility is so important.

Very surprised that people are putting Ranger on average or below average.

Arken.3725:

Very surprised that people are putting Ranger on average or below average.

I think it is in reference to what is above it. Can’t really say it is better than hgh engi, ele, or guard so that just happens to be where it falls. Prolly the lack of stability is the biggest hold back from a higher tier.

To me i’d put them above engies for just for traps alone. Their survivability is also far better.

Lordrosicky.5813:

I been experimenting alot of what to replace epidemic with and I dont like any of the options so just go for signet of the locust. I think it is underrated to be honest. Mobility is so important.

plague sig is nice with so many classes running condi. nice team support too.

also breaks everything, since its a condi drop + stun breaker

Arken.3725:

To me i’d put them above engies for just for traps alone. Their survivability is also far better.

Engi condi has more depth in terms of access to all the conditions. Rangers just kinda stack bleeds with the fire every 15 seconds I think. They are close, but bleeds and burns get pulled early in the cleanse chain I think while all the other junk engis use stays.

Why does everyone put thief on the bad tier?

I just rolled a thief AFTER the nerf and to me it seems like the most op thing ever, given that you can be skilled enough to use it.
From what I see in sPvP/tPVP and from dueling bunkers, I would rate

A:
Thief
Elementalist
Mesmer
B:
Engineer/Guardian (Tentative, post patch)
Necro/Ranger
D:
Warrior

Raptured.9307:

Why does everyone put thief on the bad tier?

I just rolled a thief AFTER the nerf and to me it seems like the most op thing ever, given that you can be skilled enough to use it.
From what I see in sPvP/tPVP and from dueling bunkers, I would rate

A:
Thief
Elementalist
Mesmer
B:
Engineer/Guardian (Tentative, post patch)
Necro/Ranger
D:
Warrior

Do you hotjoin or do tournies?

tier 1 (too strong) – ele, guardian
tier 2 (need some nerf) – mesmer
Tier 3 (Ok tier) – necro, engi, ranger (I play ranger and nerf to quickness stomp hurts)
Tier 4 (need some love) – thief, I think they got 2 big nerfs, stealth was probably good nerf but quickness was unexpected.
Tier 5 (Warrior) – Warrior… I feel like anet trying to make them stat hoarding chunk of meat… They already have highest hp, highest armor so they buff more of static stats.

daydream.2938:

Raptured.9307:

Why does everyone put thief on the bad tier?

I just rolled a thief AFTER the nerf and to me it seems like the most op thing ever, given that you can be skilled enough to use it.
From what I see in sPvP/tPVP and from dueling bunkers, I would rate

A:
Thief
Elementalist
Mesmer
B:
Engineer/Guardian (Tentative, post patch)
Necro/Ranger
D:
Warrior

Do you hotjoin or do tournies?

Both.

Raptured.9307:

Why does everyone put thief on the bad tier?

I just rolled a thief AFTER the nerf and to me it seems like the most op thing ever, given that you can be skilled enough to use it.
From what I see in sPvP/tPVP and from dueling bunkers, I would rate

A:
Thief
Elementalist
Mesmer
B:
Engineer/Guardian (Tentative, post patch)
Necro/Ranger
D:
Warrior

Lol. Must be one of the players that Xeph was referring to in the most recent SOTG about thief burst.

This is my tier list and If anyone thinks different he is a hot join hero and a noob.

Now I understand why I have been reading the same list on every post

my list:

t1: ele
t2: guardian, mesmer, ranger
t3: necro, engi, thief
t4: warrior

Rerroll.9083:

This is my tier list and If anyone thinks different he is a hot join hero and a noob.

Now I understand why I have been reading the same list on every post

my list:

t1: ele
t2: guardian, mesmer, ranger
t3: necro, engi, thief
t4: warrior

Sounds like my way or the highway. Community full of this.

t1: ele
t2: guard, ranger
t3: mesmer, engi, necro, thief
t4: warrior

Lonny.9873:

t1: ele
t2: guard, ranger
t3: mesmer, engi, necro, thief
t4: warrior

since the patch warrior should be excluded from this list.

t1: ele
t2: guard, ranger
t3: mesmer, engi, necro, thief
———————————————————-
Classes not worth playing: Warrior

Edit: TBH i feel like the Quickness-nerf hit Warriors so hard, because the GS offers a lot of mobility. Without Quickness you are unable to unload 100b, thus making it scale down in dmg. Maybe they should add some mobility options to the other weaponsets?

Lonny.9873:

t1: ele
t2: guard, ranger
t3: mesmer, engi, necro, thief
———————————————————-
Classes not worth playing: Warrior

Hehe…very appreciated this!

So how did ranger become tier a/t2 all of a sudden? Is it that because of quickness change people cannot burst them down anymore?

T1:Ele
T2:Mesmer,Guard
T3:Ranger, Engineer, Thief, Necro,
T4: Warrior

PSA: I will be updating the main post tonight at 6:30pm est

T1: Ele
T2: Guard, Mesmer
T3: Ranger, Engy
T4: Necro, Thief

Psybunny.8906:

T1: Ele
T2: Guard, Mesmer
T3: Ranger, Engy
T4: Necro, Thief

True, after March 26, 2013 Uptade – Warrior isnt Spvp Class anymore , so I do not understand why people trolling and says: Warrior is worst pvp class…

Warrior is pure PVE class

T1: Ele
? ? ?
? ? ?
T4: Warrior

After March patch:

Tier S
= Elementalist
Tier A
= Mesmer
= Guardian
- Ranger
Tier B
+ Necro
= Thief
- Engineer
Tier C
- Warrior

What we all should be playing tier: Elementalist
Sissy’s tier: Ranger & Mesmer
Boring tier: Guardian
Men’s tier: Necromancer, Engineer & Thief
Free-Kill tier: Warrior

T1: banner warrior and minion necro
T2: engi, mesmer, thief, guardian, ranger
worst tier: ele

deal with it

Rerroll.9083:

T1: kick banner warrior and minion necro, turret engies
T2: engi, mesmer, thief, guardian, ranger
worst tier: ele

deal with it

Fixed.

Asomal.6453:

Rerroll.9083:

T1: mace/axe kick double banner warrior and minion necro, turret engies
T2: engi, mesmer, thief, guardian, ranger
worst tier: ele

deal with it

Fixed.

Fixed.

Penguin.5197:

So how did ranger become tier a/t2 all of a sudden? Is it that because of quickness change people cannot burst them down anymore?

They got a bunker buff and yes quickness nerf hurt a lot.

Tier S
Elementalist
Mesmer

Tier A
Guardian
Necro
Ranger

Tier B
Engineer
Thief

Tier C
Warrior

Defektive.7283:

Rerroll.9083:

T1: sword/sword kick double banner rampage warrior and minion necro, turret engies
T2: engi, mesmer, thief, guardian, ranger
worst tier: ele

deal with it

Fixed.

Fixed it again.

T1 ele, guardian, mesmer, engi, ranger
T2 necro, thief, warrior

Fighting game tier lists are determined by matchups with other characters.

The extremes of this list are the most informative.
Nearly everyone agrees ele’s are top, and warriors are bottom. I know several people who have outright quit warrior with recent changes.

Larynx.2453:

T1: sword/sword kick double banner rampage warrior and minion necro, turret engies, s/d+s/t Aura ranger
T2: engi, mesmer, thief, guardian, ranger
worst tier: ele

deal with it

Fixed.

Fixed it again.

We are all so innovative!

Latest tier list has been updated. I will be doing on-going updates as more posts come in.

Optionally, I have also left in place the previous tier list so people can compare lists and see how classes stack up before and after a patch.

From the preliminary look of the list, most classes that had on-demand access to haste took a direct hit and moved down on the list. Classes that benefited from being burst down less often were bumped up the list.

Taym.8326:

T1: sword/sword kick double banner rampage warrior and minion necro, turret engies, s/d+s/t quad spirit ranger
T2: engi, mesmer, thief, guardian, ranger
worst tier: ele

deal with it

Fixed.

Fixed it again.

We are all so innovative!

You missed a spirit in that ranger build. Fixed.

I feel ranger has really fallen in the meta lately. It used to be ele,guardian, ranger, pretty clearly. Now that’s not clear at all. It seems ele guardian at top. Then ranger, necro, Mesmer, engy in the middle of the pack with thief peeking in, and warrior no where to be seen.

This is such a good thread…
Shame it isn’t getting any attention from the the Devs

“Godly” Tire:
Elementalists

“On a good place” Tire
Rangers, Mesmers, Guardians, Engineers

“LoL” Tire
Warriors, Thieves

daydream.2938:

I feel ranger has really fallen in the meta lately. It used to be ele,guardian, ranger, pretty clearly. Now that’s not clear at all. It seems ele guardian at top. Then ranger, necro, Mesmer, engy in the middle of the pack with thief peeking in, and warrior no where to be seen.

Engies and rangers ( especially engies) are still better than necros and mesmers, but they’re all playable.

I would say that engies are actually the only up to par with eles and guardians, but i would still go with 4 eles + guard.

currently…

Tier S
+ + Ele

Tier A
+ Guardian
- HGH enge

Tier B
+ Ranger
= Necro
- Mesmer

Tier C
= Thief

Tier Z
- – - – - – - – Warrior

Mrbig.8019:

daydream.2938:

I feel ranger has really fallen in the meta lately. It used to be ele,guardian, ranger, pretty clearly. Now that’s not clear at all. It seems ele guardian at top. Then ranger, necro, Mesmer, engy in the middle of the pack with thief peeking in, and warrior no where to be seen.

Engies and rangers ( especially engies) are still better than necros and mesmers, but they’re all playable.

I would say that engies are actually the only up to par with eles and guardians, but i would still go with 4 eles + guard.

currently…

Tier S
+ + Ele

Tier A
+ Guardian
- HGH enge

Tier B
+ Ranger
= Necro
- Mesmer

Tier C
= Thief

Tier Z
- – - – - – - – Warrior

I am guessing this list was based off of build diversity?

TGSlasher.1458:

I remember the list where us elementalists were bottem tier lol

And eles were stronger then than they are now.

t1 = ELE
t2 = Mesmer/guardian
t3 = Ranger/Engi/Thief
t4 = Necro

Dont bother tier = Warrior

S = Elementalist
A = Guardian+, Ranger+, Mesmer
B = Thief, Engineer+, Necromancer
C = Warrior

S: Mesmer, Elementalist
A: Guardian, = Ranger, Thief, = Necromancer
B: + Engineer
C: Warrior

Without tiers, the list would look like this:
(I play Guardian and Ranger, and this list is based off my experiences)
1. Mesmer
2. Elementalist
3. Necromancer
4. Guardian
5. Ranger
6. Engineer
7. Warrior

Guardian and Necromancer might have to switch positions, but imo necromancers are underrated.

S tier
= Ele
= Mesmer

A tier
- Guardian
= Engineer
= Ranger

B tier
= Thief
+ Necro

Just commit Sudoku rather than s/tpvp Tier
——— Warrior

Necromancers definitely are good, in point control fights they can turn the tide of a losing fight just by arriving.

i bet 100 bucks karl and the other balance devs are mostly ELE/Mesmer users or there’s a sexy chick they’re trying to impress whom is an ELE/Mesmer user

haha!the latter sounds more plausible though

the ranger should be lower in the list now,the only mechanic that made it viable was haste stomp/rezz on 15/48 secs demand if traited.Being bunker was just so that we can drop in that haste stomp/rezz, now that we don’t have that,might as well bring a real bunker like ele/guardian/new engi

Considering the current meta:

1: D/D Elementalist ( Burst healing is what makes it work, the rest is not the problem)
2: Engineer (Good for forcing bunkers off points)
3: Double Trap ranger (Can get bunkers from points fairly decently)
4: Confusion / Shatter Mesmer (Great bursting and Evasive skills, also access to a lot of stun breakers.)
5: Guardian (Great for Bunkering if roamer can help against aggressors fast)
6: Necro (Various builds, can do decent bunkering or massive condi builds, well’s really work for teamfights and res signet)
7: Thief (Great for sPvP, but less viable in tPvP, can spike burst down targets that are engaged in combat)
8: Various build variations depending on team composition
9: Warrior (Had 1 Dangerous cheesy build, now gone. Bunker is sub-par to any class doing it, Condi is laughable, condi removal is near neglect able.)

Defektive.7283:

Tier List v0.0.3 POST PATCH – On going.

Tier S
+ Elementalist

Tier A
+ Guardian
+ Mesmer
- Engineer

Tier B
+ Ranger
= Necro
- Thief

Tier C
-² Warrior (it was suggested this get moved down to an even lower tier)

That seems dead on accurate to me! lol