Guild Wars 2

GW2 promotes player co-operation. It has a vast lore that has no place for duels at all. Personally I would not like to see player dueling in the open world or spamming map chat with dueling requests.

That said, the only place I could imagine dueling is the Mists. If they ever implement this feature, they should also add a 1v1 Arena, make a ladder, even organize championships, whatever. Just not in the open world, please.

Kam.1780:

GW2 promotes player co-operation. It has a vast lore that has no place for duels at all. Personally I would not like to see player dueling in the open world or spamming map chat with dueling requests.

I seem to remember Logan and Rytlock duking it out at one time…

Duels are everywhere in GW2 lore. Every time two enemies fight with swords and axes, they duel. Who said it has to be formally announced as such?

Map chat requests can be blocked, if they annoy you, just like any other map chat spam. Duel requests should have an option of auto-decline, just like random party requests.

So the only reason you don’t want to see a duel in the game is because it would bring tears to your eyes to see two Sylvari fighting?

Oh wait. Happens all the time. Norn? Yup. Charr? Check. Asura? Of course, the little buggers love to fight between themselves. Human? Of course, that’s what bandits are for.

And if you are worried about “teabagging” and other assorted 12-year old behaviour, make duels end honourably, with a forced /bow upon defeat of either player, no kneeling, no supplication, no dropping dead.

There are ways to make duels fit nicely in the lore and the world. It doesn’t have to be “to the death” and it doesn’t have to be hateful.

I honestly dont see the problem with this, I think it would defiantly be more helpful than hurtful as people could practice against certain professions, and learn their animations without having to set up a 1on1 in the mists.

If its really that much of a problem, you could also add guild halls (eventually haha, im not that unreasonable) and only allow dueling while in the presence of the guild hall. That way people could make an event out of it and have tourneys with their guildys. It would also take away the problem of people who are worried about getting pestered with duel requests (although there would obviously be an option to turn those requests off anyways).

I guess I just dont see the problem, its probably way easier than fixing a task like culling and some of the other stuff going on, plus it could benefit the game in alot of ways.

@Gaudrath
And what exactly your problem is with having this feature introduced in the Mists?

Oh, wait, I think I know: you can not bring level 2s to their knees with your level 80, is that right? If you do want dueling, it should be competitive, not a slaughter.

I cited my arguments why I do not find it appropriate dueling in the game and brougth up a possible alternative for those who would really like to have it. Your answer? Arrogance. If that is how duelists behave then, no, thank you I don’t want this in my game.

In my eyes in PvE there is no place for player versus player battles. Bring it to the Mists, full stop.

DJSkittles.7196:

If its really that much of a problem, you could also add guild halls (eventually haha, im not that unreasonable) and only allow dueling while in the presence of the guild hall. That way people could make an event out of it and have tourneys with their guildys. It would also take away the problem of people who are worried about getting pestered with duel requests (although there would obviously be an option to turn those requests off anyways).

Now, these are some very nice suggestions, in my opinions. Thank you.

stale.9785:

see grumpy cat. NO. reasoning being, the moment we have duels, we’ll have people whining to have the game balanced into 1v1. again, no.

hmmm yes, further adding to the nerf nightmare. wonderful.

Kam.1780:

@Gaudrath
And what exactly your problem is with having this feature introduced in the Mists?

Oh, wait, I think I know: you can not bring level 2s to their knees with your level 80, is that right? If you do want dueling, it should be competitive, not a slaughter.

I cited my arguments why I do not find it appropriate dueling in the game and brougth up a possible alternative for those who would really like to have it. Your answer? Arrogance. If that is how duelists behave then, no, thank you I don’t want this in my game.

In my eyes in PvE there is no place for player versus player battles. Bring it to the Mists, full stop.

No, my problem is that as a roleplayer, I could not enjoy roleplay dueling, for example Norn Moots, if duels were for a PvP lobby only.

As for level 2’s they don’t have to accept duel requests from level 80 characters. Common sense.

The arrogance is on your end, for assuming all players who want duels are b*stards.

Finding an empty pvp server and hoping for it to remain 1v1 is rather a pain.
/support

It don’t have any interest in dueling.

Game I left not long had dueling with NO option to auto decline. Vastly irritating as people who like dueling just hit up everyone for a duel. It had lots of little things I disliked, this was one of them.

If they have an auto decline , OK. If not, no way. I don’t want that hassle again. What is cool here now, pve is pve.

I feel like dueling would be awesome, it really helps people figure their class out for one vs ones, honestly how hard can it be to implement. Just make it so when a finishers goes off or they would die that it ends the duel and they don’t. It would be great if we could have guild tournaments in some of the awesome locations around the world. What would be really cool is party vs party duels… granted this game does not even have dueling.

Also, maybe just put a simple button to make it so you don’t get invites and it auto declines. Anyway, please put this in the game, I have yet to hear a good reason to not have it. At least in my opinion of course.

Gaudrath.6725:

No, my problem is that as a roleplayer, I could not enjoy roleplay dueling, for example Norn Moots, if duels were for a PvP lobby only.
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The arrogance is on your end, for assuming all players who want duels are b*stards.

I have one question I asked in the previous DuelThread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Is-it-really-hard-to-add-dueling/1473431

Qnopsik El Qox.1269:

jayb.1329:

THE MAIN DRAW OF AN MMO IS INTERACTION…dueling is one of the top reasons i choose to play an MMO..my character that i worked hard on vs. your character that you worked hard on

IF dueling is the main reason for buying MMO for you, than you could KITTENing buy a game with OpenWorldDueling

GW2 was build about Social Cooperation and it was a main reason for buying it by many people.
Will you give those people their money back?
They chosen the game with the current design.
You had full knowledge about the GW2 design, if you wanted to duel, you could buy a game that allows you to Duel. You preferred gw2 instead “the game with dueling” so it was your choice.

GW2 Devs are working on personal arenas, to give you dueling, or something similar to it.

Don’t destroy the game for others, by changing the game for others.

Will you answer?
Why you want to destroy the game for others?

Another player here that would like to see dueling added, or just call it a two man tournament. The Bane in the blackThe Black Citidel looks like it was made for this sort of thing. I could see myself sitting and watching or participating often. Really, there’s this giant gladiator arena just sitting there- so much awesome could be going down in there.

+1 from me. I fully support.

Although it’s a thing they should have added since launch. Such a little and important thing and no one bothered to pay it the right attention. Just like “finding a group menu” for dungeons and/or pvp etc. You have to go to 3rd party sites like gw2lfg and such to find a group.

I like it somehow without duels… did not like those as*****s in other games that were standing “everywhere”… just to start duels with anyone who was coming to close… just hoping that some players would click “accept” (by accident)
and not once… more like 3-5x until you got away…
yeah… that was “fun” in those games – level 3 vs 16-20 (when you came out of the tutorial) – no thanks…

if Anet implements this feature:
-pls, not those fat dialogues that block the view… (how to kill/annoy a player in a jumping puzzle? just start a duel when he is almost at the chest and he jumps)
-an option “I don’t want duels! Auto decline” (standard for this: no duels)
-a well made system (green items vs. exotics would not be fair… —> maybe like pvp each player has a set for his duels? what about “enemies” and buffs? will they receive buffs by other players/the other player? …attacked by the enviroment? if players are not attacked by other players/enemies ANet has to avoid players cheating with this* —> many things to think about)
-maybe not outside of cities (so players will not use their upgraded gear to loot or rush )

*e.g.
rushing through an area by starting a duel (when the creatures ignore them while they are in a duel)
rezz-ing other players (when the creatures ignore them…)
not able to open a chests
no gathering
players should not able to “farm” while being in a duel (doing pve stuff for loot/xp)
…

For all the people crying about adding dueling, then someone like me comes along and says duelign has no place in PvE content, that and they are adding a dueling feature to the Mist (PvP) area. When dueling is strictly for the bettering of fighting another player, ( as players react differently than mobs do ) it shouldn’t be in the PvP area. That way you don’t have to add a ignore button.

what all you people should be crying about is when they add in rented rooms to the Mist, and allow moderator to control the rules of the room for custom games and controls who stays and leaves, you need to be screaming at the top of your lungs for an option to make a WvWvW room that way all the WvWvW players can test out their builds with the PvE armor. As far as adding Dueling in PvE content it is not needed. Especially now with all the Culling issues we are having you have 3 people dueling it out in a major populated city it will cause even more lag. Yes it is cool to sometimes watch the duels I will agree, but they have already stated that with the rented rooms some of the features that will be added are as so,

• Room Setup – IE: rules of the map, point spread to win, points to win
• Lock out/ ban feature: Invite only, Open rooms, Removal of players you don’t agree with ect.
• Spectator modes

I am not against a dueling feature but dueling is a pvp thing not a pve, trying to test out your PvE build against a player that doesn’t hit nearly as hard, does not react the same as a mob would, or have the same abilities that mobs do will do you no good.

Meryt.9823:

CoRtex.2157:

it’s actually super easy to program. it doesn’t take a day, maybe a few hours max. Anet is just lazy. Also there is no reason to up-scale people in a duel. It’s fun to win as lvl 20 vs lvl 21. You can’t even spec someones armor, how lazy can you be as a company, lol.

Perhaps you should write your own MMO if it’s that easy.

However , back on topic.
I found duelling in other games an annoyance in populated areas. If they do implement it in GW2 there ought to be designated areas (ie Arenas and quieter corners of the maps). Any players duelling in towns and settlements ought to run the risk of some NPC guards spawning to cart them off to the dungeons. There they would either pay a fine (level based) or get a 20minute lockdown in the cells.

Out of curiosity what about duelling did you have a problem with? For me it was peoples powers going off all over the place being disruptive. If it’s the same for you, then I don’t see the problem, because unlike in every other game, in GW2 they can do that whether they’re dueling or not.

I think being able to duel with your friends, guildmate or even stranger, would make “Guild Wars 2” a whole lot more entertaining. Even though this game already is a box packed with fun, events and exploratory world which will keep players occupied for a long period of time, but sometimes waiting on dragons to fly down to crush a clock tower or just to chill on an icy mountain and roar at some people gets really boring, so i asked the groups about duels and i had answers from several people with positive attitude concerning this idea. I had several moments where i wanted to fight some of my friends, just to see who is better in certain aspects of a profession for the fun of it. The system itself does not have to make players die after defeat. Put players in “downed mode” would be better, because it will put less pressure on a player, since they will not have to respawn. Overall duel can be called “sparring”, the system itself would really make the game a lot enjoyable, not to mention it can be create new events!

There’s enough threads on this already. What is so hard about using the search function and contributing to one of those instead of blindly starting another one?

Dueling would certainly make it a lot more fun while waiting for the zone bosses to spawn (eg. Claw of Jormag, Shatterer, etc.).

Wolfgang Michael.8217:

Darth Llama.9217:

There is already PvP and WvW modes.. why would we need dueling? Just so we can litter the PVE zones with people fighting each other?

No thanks.

Google the definition of Dueling and come back to us please.

‘A contest with deadly weapons arranged between two people in order to settle a point of honor.’

Except that those advocating it and using it to grief (by far the biggest reason people use dueling systems even if you don’t do those things) have no honor. One does not resort to the kind of name calling that we so often see, the personal jibes, if they have honor.

The only “dueling” that should exist is what was in Aion, a point in the city that is a natural arena (Black Citadel even has an arena for crying out loud) in which the moment you walk into it you are flagged in a FFA mode. That’s all it takes. People will duel and test things there and be able to go back to the respec place free of charge and then get right back to the arena.

Don’t want to duel? Don’t go to the arena. However the arena is FFA mode, so someone else can always come in and ruin your fun or you could have to share the arena with others doing the same thing (thus limiting your movement options) but it’s a small price to pay to allow people to ignore duel requests.

Kam.1780:

GW2 promotes player co-operation. It has a vast lore that has no place for duels at all.

I’m sorry, but this post gives me the impression that you don’t know very much about Guild Wars lore. Just to list off a quick few reasons why I have this impression: the Charr have an arena, Edge of Destiny shows that all races dueled each other in the arena in Lion’s Arch, oh, and the Norn in GW1 challenged players to about a gazillion duels whenever they got the chance.

Hell, I just dueled humans for a heart quest in Harathi Hinterlands the other day.

Lysico.4906:

Already in game..

Pick ANY of the lower Spvp games and duel away..

What else do you need?

what i need is to actually have a duel system cause in pvp its so much differrent cause i dont have my gear and the build customization is too limited in compare to pve and wvw…also there are always people getting in the middle of duels in spvp

Qnopsik El Qox.1269:

Gaudrath.6725:

No, my problem is that as a roleplayer, I could not enjoy roleplay dueling, for example Norn Moots, if duels were for a PvP lobby only.
…
The arrogance is on your end, for assuming all players who want duels are b*stards.

I have one question I asked in the previous DuelThread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Is-it-really-hard-to-add-dueling/1473431

Qnopsik El Qox.1269:

jayb.1329:

THE MAIN DRAW OF AN MMO IS INTERACTION…dueling is one of the top reasons i choose to play an MMO..my character that i worked hard on vs. your character that you worked hard on

IF dueling is the main reason for buying MMO for you, than you could KITTENing buy a game with OpenWorldDueling

GW2 was build about Social Cooperation and it was a main reason for buying it by many people.
Will you give those people their money back?
They chosen the game with the current design.
You had full knowledge about the GW2 design, if you wanted to duel, you could buy a game that allows you to Duel. You preferred gw2 instead “the game with dueling” so it was your choice.

GW2 Devs are working on personal arenas, to give you dueling, or something similar to it.

Don’t destroy the game for others, by changing the game for others.

Will you answer?
Why you want to destroy the game for others?

i really dont get how duelling would destroy the game for anyone….its gonna be another feature in the game that you can or CAN NOT play just like any other..so why kittening so much much about it i really cant understand..(auto duel decline option is a must for this)

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page

^^ go there look for Current game status then click on Upcoming changes and features

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Upcoming_changes_and_features

Step 2 Read so now we can get these 500 QQ threads about dueling off the Forums. Any post after this one that talks about how they need to add dueling should be reported plain and simple, cause if you read the information in that second link you will find that there is no more reason for this thread to continue

Kaimick.5109:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page

^^ go there look for Current game status then click on Upcoming changes and features

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Upcoming_changes_and_features

Step 2 Read so now we can get these 500 QQ threads about dueling off the Forums. Any post after this one that talks about how they need to add dueling should be reported plain and simple, cause if you read the information in that second link you will find that there is no more reason for this thread to continue

It’s a wiki, anyone can add content, what if I was the anonymous individual who added that entry?

Also the discussion forums are a place for discussion, and particularly in the suggestion forums Anet needs to see what people want, so by all means continue posting in this thread if you wish.