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Posted by: Mythazor.4570

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Could you please make the weapons a bit bigger on Asura? The endgame revolves heavily on farming better looking gear, but I can barely see my Asura’s weapon.

The greatswords are so tiny, I have a feeling I’m going to be super disappointed once I finally manage to get Twilight.

Earlier today it was mentioned on Twitter that Asura and Charr are the least played races. I feel like this is definitely one of the reasons why people don’t play Asura that much. I love everything about my asura, but the weapons are just disappointing.

The height difference between the biggest Asura and the smallest Sylvari/Human really isn’t that big, but for some reasons the asura weapons are much smaller.

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Posted by: CC Ivonne.6782

CC Ivonne.6782

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Hi Mythazor,
your thread will be moved to the suggestions sub-forum, where it belongs.

Thanks for understanding.

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Posted by: joykafka.4308

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My friend’s tiny Asura looks cute and funny, and I’d love to see he wields a disproportional huge greatsword too. That’d be hilarious and Asura-ish ~~

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Posted by: carson yuen.6739

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yes… for a game that focus mainly on cosmetic items, Asura is getting the shaft big time…

The only piece of gear that people can actually notice on an asura is his helm… other than that the rest of the gears are pretty much unnoticeable.

It’s hard to fix the armor since Asura are small afterall.. but at least let people notice our weapons…. I can barely see my weapons model..

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Posted by: Mythazor.4570

Mythazor.4570

My friend’s tiny Asura looks cute and funny, and I’d love to see he wields a disproportional huge greatsword too. That’d be hilarious and Asura-ish ~~

I’m not even asking for them to be disproportional, just a bit bigger. All the other races have the weapons sticking out above their head a bit. The hilt of my sword ends near my shoulder.

Also, I guess since this is now in the suggestion forums I’m not going to find out if this is a planned change.

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Posted by: Velg.3170

Velg.3170

Sorry for the little OT – but been searching for statistics on most / less played races etc. for a while (I’d swear I saw them somewhere) – could you point me to them?

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Posted by: Taikanaru.5746

Taikanaru.5746

Agreed, the weapons are not on par with the other races scalings. Staff seems fine though.

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Posted by: Mythazor.4570

Mythazor.4570

Velg, there is an article somewhere on the official site with a graph. That graph is outdated though, and apparantly there are even less Asura/Charr now.

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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

Kain Francois.4328

I agree. Asura need to have big weapons.. Like Yoda!

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Posted by: Nurvus.2891

Nurvus.2891

The only reason I don’t play a Charr, is because their male don’t have proper feline looking heads like the female do.
Most male Charr heads look more canine than feline.

As for Asura, I just dislike them, I just like Sylvari, Humans and Norn so much more
I’d make a Tengu if they become available.
Same for Kodan.

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Posted by: K Cross.3458

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Yep, that’s right. Human and Norns are the most chosen races. And I got both. I didn’t want an asura because you can barely see their gear. Charrs are too hunched, and Sylvary, well… I don’t wanna be a kitten tree, I don’t even like nature.

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Posted by: DreamOfACure.4382

DreamOfACure.4382

There’s already a thread about this somewhere.

It very eloquently demonstrates how weapons are shrinking when out of combat.

“Bleeding, Poison, Confusion, Torment, they all look delightful on you.”

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Posted by: mrsrachelm.7618

mrsrachelm.7618

I have always thought the massively over sized weapons that seem to be oh-so-popular in games are horrid. It’s like every game simply -has- to go anime. BLECH!

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Posted by: mrsrachelm.7618

mrsrachelm.7618

The only reason I don’t play a Charr, is because their male don’t have proper feline looking heads like the female do.
Most male Charr heads look more canine than feline.

As for Asura, I just dislike them, I just like Sylvari, Humans and Norn so much more
I’d make a Tengu if they become available.
Same for Kodan.

I would SO love it if they put Tengu in the game! That would be kick kitten awesome! But please, NO frog people.

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Posted by: Valle.3406

Valle.3406

Yes please… I absolutely agree on this. I’m actually starting a new character just because I’m fed up with the looks of my Asura. I can barely see my hammer… fix it

OR allow me to change race.

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Posted by: Mazoku.5873

Mazoku.5873

I play as asura, and i love my asura, but that weapons are really small. I use pistol with my eng. but that pistols are so small its really bad when i see someone with 5x biggers nice pistols, and some pice armor like shoulders could be bigger too.

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

I was contemplating farming for [The Incinerator] on my Asuran Thief.

I quickly dropped the idea after realizing I could barely see my Daggers.

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Posted by: Northlander.4619

Northlander.4619

Honestly I don’t like this idea but it’s my personal bias. I already think the weapons are too large to a point where they look stupid, and it’s one of the things that irritates me most about the cosmetic look of the game. I actually want smaller, sleeker weapons.

Currently I end up using Krytan weapons a lot as in general they look the best with their ornate and simple look. Most weapons are too thick and too big. They at least manage to look somewhat normal even if they are oversized.

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Posted by: Mythazor.4570

Mythazor.4570

Honestly I don’t like this idea but it’s my personal bias. I already think the weapons are too large to a point where they look stupid, and it’s one of the things that irritates me most about the cosmetic look of the game. I actually want smaller, sleeker weapons.

Currently I end up using Krytan weapons a lot as in general they look the best with their ornate and simple look. Most weapons are too thick and too big. They at least manage to look somewhat normal even if they are oversized.

You do realize I’m only talking about asura, right?

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Posted by: Taikanaru.5746

Taikanaru.5746

Honestly I don’t like this idea but it’s my personal bias. I already think the weapons are too large to a point where they look stupid, and it’s one of the things that irritates me most about the cosmetic look of the game. I actually want smaller, sleeker weapons.

Currently I end up using Krytan weapons a lot as in general they look the best with their ornate and simple look. Most weapons are too thick and too big. They at least manage to look somewhat normal even if they are oversized.

Roll an asura and use daggers. Barely visible.

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

This is a BIG issue!

Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.

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Posted by: Niblit.7452

Niblit.7452

Agree completely, i can barely see the daggers on my asura (not to mention the clipping issues of 1-h weapons with almost EVERY light armor, if you don’t have your weapons out they disappear under your clothes). As things are now it’s just not worth it to farm for barely noticeable exotic/dungeon weapons

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Posted by: DeCree.5698

DeCree.5698

^ agree with the weapon(especially daggers n pistols for me) not visible. Its too tiny! and just to add another point in this, (just my personal opinion) the order of whisper helm on asura looks super weird. looks like ur just wrapping a piece of cloth over the head instead of it looking like a hood.(again just my personal opinion) cheers!

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Posted by: Surinen.9684

Surinen.9684

yes, I would like to see my Asura holding a bigger gun, it would be much much funnier

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

Did I say that I agree with the OP?

I agree with the OP.

Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.

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Posted by: kaffaljidhma.1496

kaffaljidhma.1496

Screw practicality. Asura already look funny, go the full mile and make them hilarious with obviously impractical and unwieldly weapon sizes. I want them to lose their footing when they finish a combo and be lifted off the ground when they go for a forward strike.

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Posted by: ozymandias.5317

ozymandias.5317

They don’t need to be impractical in size, but I find it difficult to believe that Asura are intelligent enough to build a gigantic floating city and master the art of golemancy and numerous other alchemagical endeavors, yet can’t seem to be able to create a simple counterweight to allow for larger weapons. Even a magical solution would not be out of e realm of possibility for them. I’m not looking for ridiculous anime sizes here, I don’t wish to swing around a greatsword the size of a Mack truck, but perhaps a greatsword that is larger than a Norns dagger, or a hammer that doesn’t look like a stole a toddlers rattle.

Please make this happen.

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Posted by: Gwal.2813

Gwal.2813

Totally agree!
please ANet, do something !

No asura 2handed weapons seems to go higher than their head, unlike all other races..
(see this thread with screenshots to explain the issue:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/races/asura/One-problem-with-Asura-Tiny-weapons/first )

2 Handed hammer especially look ridiculously small : on my Asuran warrior, I feel like I’m violently smashing my enemies with… an olive on top of a toothpick.

Staves also look super small. (see screenshots in the linked thread)

underwater spear actually looks “normal” on an Asura is the , since it can go “over the head” when wielding it in the back

Greatsword not so much, they feel more normal because they already are oversized for most of them.

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Posted by: DinoDoll.3682

DinoDoll.3682

I’m not even asking for them to be disproportional, just a bit bigger. All the other races have the weapons sticking out above their head a bit. The hilt of my sword ends near my shoulder..

Ya but don’t you think that is because other races have much smaller heads than asuras?

What i mean is… proportionately an Asura’s head is about 1/3 its body size. The human heads are about 1/7th their body size.

Mm. i did a quick picture. The first is approx. human proportions in this game, the second figure is approx. asura proportions. The ‘blue-teal’ line is a weapon.. likely a staff.

The weapon line is the same length as the entire height of each figure..

Because of Asura proportions of having large head, long neck, short torso/body… if you stow the weapon/staff so that it “pokes out higher than the asura head”, you have to stow the weapon VERY high on the back/shoulder. Like… so high that it would be “top heavy” and not very secure, if you were being realistic.

Notice how far /over/ the shoulder height the staff goes on the asura. Over half the staff ends up being “above” the middle line (where back/shoulders meet)…

Comparatively the human figure’s staff, when stowed, can easily extend above the head without becoming “top heavy”.

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i suppose overall asura weapons could still be made bigger. Although i haven’t ever personally had issues “seeing” them in detail at their current size. i have a fairly large monitor though… maybe people with smaller monitors could have trouble.

also even on my human it seems my weapon is “smaller” when stowed (on my back/hip) than when i have it drawn/in combat stance. So, i think like someone suggested in another thread, stowed weapons kinda ‘scale’ based on the races torso.

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Posted by: Shade.4702

Shade.4702

The whole reason I wanted a tiny asura was for a big weapon! At least asura ranger pets don’t scale too… It would be nice if I could have a big pet AND a big greatsword.

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Posted by: AdamWest.7921

AdamWest.7921

i totally agree with the scale for the asura race for weapons. every other race’s weapons (Great-sword) scale is over the head while ours is scaled down below ours. as you can tell in my pic of my Twilight looks very tiny and hard too see. on a human or any other race the handle of the blade is sticking out past the head. and the blade it’s self should be twice as thick.

and still no official response ?

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Posted by: AdamWest.7921

AdamWest.7921

prime example of the error on race weapon scale effect.

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Posted by: Nox Aeterna.2965

Nox Aeterna.2965

prime example of the error on race weapon scale effect.

Actually , if you stop to notice the pic , it is not wrong scaled at all.

The problem is it is wrong placed on the back of the asura. If you note where each sword begin and end , and you note this.

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Posted by: AdamWest.7921

AdamWest.7921

the sword should just be placed up higher and adjusted to size correctly. that is all.

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Posted by: Taikanaru.5746

Taikanaru.5746

prime example of the error on race weapon scale effect.

Actually , if you stop to notice the pic , it is not wrong scaled at all.

The problem is it is wrong placed on the back of the asura. If you note where each sword begin and end , and you note this.

Uhm… If you moved the human’s greatsword to be as low as the asura’s, it would impale the ground…

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Posted by: Sagittario.5189

Sagittario.5189

The small scale of weapons on asuras causes clipping issue with at least staves.
All staff heads are in my ear. It gets really annoying.

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Posted by: Nox Aeterna.2965

Nox Aeterna.2965

Uhm… If you moved the human’s greatsword to be as low as the asura’s, it would impale the ground…

I know , i mean the asura one is misplaced.

I actually think the asura one is impaling the ground, or at least must be really close.

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Posted by: Dokem.2634

Dokem.2634

Can we get an official response to this important issue for us asurans?

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Posted by: Zhead.2675

Zhead.2675

This is why i tried Asura in Betas and ended up creating human after release.
Shooting with a bow looks like im using a slingshot :p

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Posted by: Selka.5802

Selka.5802

Example of the Ascalon Greatsword on a Norn and Asura…

why they have the grip in the belt?

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Posted by: DinoDoll.3682

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Example of the Ascalon Greatsword on a Norn and Asura…

why they have the grip in the belt?

oh wow.. great sword placement is really strange on the asura. i never played an asura with a great sword so didn’t notice. your suggested position is much better.

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Posted by: AdamWest.7921

AdamWest.7921

i sadly started too make a human warrior . sooooo much time put into my asura and now i don’t even want too play with it sad..

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Posted by: Awesome.6120

Awesome.6120

Example of the Ascalon Greatsword on a Norn and Asura…

why they have the grip in the belt?

This is now my #1 issue. Fix it Anet!!

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Posted by: ArsAeterna.8076

ArsAeterna.8076

Signed.

My Molten Hammer of the dungeon Citadel of Flame looks like a kid’s toy on my Asuran Guardian.

Please fix and make weapons and also armor look cooler on Asurans.

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Posted by: Link.4039

Link.4039

Really hoping for an official response on this. My rifle looks like a water gun :l
I love everything else about the asura except the weapon size. When I made an asura, i was kind of expecting the weapons size to be something similar to Tera’s Popori – http://images.mmosite.com/feature/news/2009_04_05/mmo/popori01.jpg
Now THAT is a bad kitten little critter.

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Posted by: Stron Magnesson.8017

Stron Magnesson.8017

Ugh, this thread got moved so now it has the Moderator tag on it. I think it’s going to be a long time before a Moderator takes a look at this again.

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Posted by: ThePropagation.3692

ThePropagation.3692

I play a level 80 Asura Guardian and a 48 Asura Necro but it has finally got to me! I cant stand not being able to see my weapons properly. I’m currently considering other races for my new character until this is looked at!

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Posted by: Asraishalo.8601

Asraishalo.8601

Yes, I agree. I want to make an asura guardian, but this is holding me back. I’d love to see an actual dev comment on this.

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Posted by: DinoDoll.3682

DinoDoll.3682

Really hoping for an official response on this. My rifle looks like a water gun :l
I love everything else about the asura except the weapon size. When I made an asura, i was kind of expecting the weapons size to be something similar to Tera’s Popori – http://images.mmosite.com/feature/news/2009_04_05/mmo/popori01.jpg
Now THAT is a bad kitten little critter.

while i played Tera too.. and think popori/elin are cute..
i really really hope GW2 does not go that cartoonie route with asura and give them big huge oversized cartoon weapons :\

a tiny bit bigger might be alright, if people with small monitors are apparently having trouble seeing them.

And.. some position fixing with some stowed great swords would be nice.

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Posted by: wasabi.6541

wasabi.6541

For those saying Asuran weapons look childsize might I remind you that Asuras are in fact smaller than the human children running around in this game. To further counter this argument I’d like to provide 3 examples from my playing Gw2 yesterday alone.

  1. while running CoF with the Asuran cultural T3 greatsword, I recieved compliments from my group mates. They wanted to know where I got it and how to get there own. Too bad Asura only.
  2. same group and further complements when I could poison last boss in path 1 (it’s an Asuran specific utility skill) I also used my mobile golem suit for kicks, u can’t get a bigger weapon than that.
  3. as for the armor i was running around in LA with full CoF gear but no legs equipped, just wanted to see how long it took for someone to say something about my blue boxers. Mind you I was using emotes, chasing people around and /say ing funny things. But people notices and were just as entertained a I was.

That being said if I ever do get a legendary I’m likely to trade it to a newly made Norn character just before it binds so I can show it off easier.

In short for me kitten’s sake plz make Asuran weapons bigger (or make legendaries BoA instead of BoE)