Guild Wars 2

Believe me it’s not fun for us either. (I’m leveling my alt too.)

Since we were in the exact same position last week vs Sanctum of Rail, sitting at +5 and +15 points, we really understand.

Getting classy things like SOR guys building a chain of 20 rams of rams from their keep to outside our spawn.

Fix the plague that is free, 1 day cooldown transfers anet… (Losing guild perks is NOT enough.)

Fun battles last night in GoM BG. GoM took half the map back from YB, even though we had a few commanders on. Good job, guys!

Our queue to GoM BG was more than an hour because something was actually happening!

Just another Yaker guard.

I agree. Both SF and GoM are able to put up some really good fights during what I believe to be their prime time. Its a shame they can’t field players during off peak. I think this match up would have been alot closer.

What I observed from GoM is lack of large guilds that take control and lead the zergs. I usually see a group of 10 max guildies running around and nothing bigger. It’s much harder to coordinate large assaults without support of organized guildie zergs for PUGs to follow.

As a guardian, it was very easy for me to break GoM’s small groups’ moral last night during their assaults. Suicide into their balista and pull the balista operators off and there goes their moral. I couldn’t do that against a group of one guild, they’d tear me apart. PUGs tend to run a lot faster when the battle switches.

Don’t need large guilds to control anything much less than zergs. On Friday night we (alliance of 3 guilds [IE], [SOK] & [RAID]) had no issue pushing back both SF and Yak players from about 8p-1a EST in the GoM BG. The problem is truly a lack of overnight presence. There is little motivation for smaller groups to get together after the map is controlled 95% (or more) by a single server.

It is even less motivation when players are being spawn camped at ALL exits of their BG. Once I encountered that, I was done for the week.

On Friday night Yak had a huge showing up. All maps had 1-2 hour queue, which is unheard for our server. Global verbal conversation among major commanders in the server and organization of large guilds in Yak really showed true colors. After last week’s beating, everyone was eager to come out and play.

Evel, I do agree with you, with 95% map ownage, it’s hard to get players into WvW. We were there last week. On Yak, I haven’t seen any new large guilds transfer to us (which is a good thing).

Well lucky for us that Halloween event just started…

The event started? Hey subtle if there is a dunking booth we gonna volunteer evil. We need another tea bag tirade!. Should have recorded and youtubed that. Priceless.

LOL – Ya we should have eh?

I like the part where the Necro that was Teabagging her got rolled by 30 people…

Better yet when all 30 teabagged him back

Jski.6180:

I must say at this point in the game i see Yaks Bend as a non human team they are more like never-ending re spawning mobs that will always be in the map for the week only Gate of Maddness is a team that is to be beaten. What Yaks Bend is doing is a true zerg “an never ending wave of guys” for point a larges group of ppl more like a blob not a zerg.

I missed it — what is it they are doing that is wrong? Zerging with lots of people? Respawning and coming back to fight?

The YB kittens fight hard, and I’ve seen them deploy in small combat teams at least as often as in hordes. We beat them last week and moved to a higher bracket, but I expect to be playing them again soon.

These forms are buggly from time to time so i cant replay but this must do.
@Obed Zerging old use was a way of playing SC1 where you could make an endless steam of guys to the point of having one ready the sec one dies. This works when you have a near by way point and high number such that you will have an endless steam of ppl going into a fight there is no true way to defeat this in GW2 but in SC1 they would run out of mineral. You guys fight hard in that there are ppl on 24hr and non of the low end worlds have these. I feels sry for your off time group they must have nothing to do in wvw and at this point there is nothing for your prime time group to do too. The very worst part is it only was 2 day into the week that Yaks Bend was going to win for sure killing any type of fight in both SF and GoM. In the end Yaks Bend has the resources of nearly a full world and the ability to have a full time full wvw on all maps and the simple truth the bottom 6 worlds do not have this and will ALWAYS lose to this great advantages.

Jski, not entirely true. Yak took the lead Friday night after a very organized guilds placements in all Battle Grounds. Yak’s large guilds took foreign BGs and the famous commanders took our own BG to drive PUGs to the right locations.

I, myself, went to bed about 1 AM (Mountain Time) and we captured all the key points before the night crew came in for the sweep.

All 3 servers were neck to neck until finally Yak started slowly take the lead. The same continued Saturday. So this war was won by the regular day crew of Yak. The night crew just finished it off.

I think all our servers had good size zergs going on Friday night. I just wish we didn’t have to wait another week for a reset. 3 days for a match is plenty to keep things fresh.

The thing is SF mainly i do not know about GoM is a 6hr world at best after that there is no one of any number to effect do any thing on all maps and that during the weekend the week days are far worst. What you saw was the most active we can be and for the time. If the game was so close then you would lose something some where because your fighting 2 worlds at the same time NO one can beat though odds unless they simply out number both worlds. At this point you group is trying to use one days fight at prime time to make as if it was a hard fight to get all 4 maps and hold them comply for 4 days and you seem to forget that its 214k to 23k to 21k THAT dose not simply happen over night.

Right, that is my point. We took the lead the first 24 hours of this match up. But it wasn’t through sheer outnumbering. I believe our server was mad at last week’s loss and we were way organized across all maps.

I wish the Anet would match the servers according to prime login hours rather than some pointless scores.

So your so well organized across all maps that you can take on 2 worlds at the same time and some how your in nearly the lowest rank of play? I am sry i find that hard to believe i ask you why are you not in the top rank?
Added point if one day is the only time it takes to win a game of wvw why do we have a full week to play this is something your trying your best to comply block out and denial its not just one day its the days after and the holding in both days after and the day of.

Sry keep adding things but from what i saw only your border lands where full for SF and it was something like a 10 min Q.

We were spanked by SoR, who had a lot of JQ large guilds transferred to during our match up. We were in worse situation than you guys. Therefore, we got bumped down, which in turn will bump us two brackets again next week. It’s a freaking yo-yo.

We fought some of the top tier servers/guilds before. No thanks, I am too casual for that gameplay.

And read my previous point, I DO think a week long match is an over kill for a match. 3 to 4 days is plenty! Wish Anet would listen….

Kazak.8459:

We were spanked by SoR, who had a lot of JQ large guilds transferred to during our match up. We were in worse situation than you guys. Therefore, we got bumped down, which in turn will bump us two brackets again next week. It’s a freaking yo-yo.

We fought some of the top tier servers/guilds before. No thanks, I am too casual for that gameplay.

And read my previous point, I DO think a week long match is an over kill for a match. 3 to 4 days is plenty! Wish Anet would listen….

So wait you think that your group is super good but you want to be casual so your saying that your good but your to lazy to do it please your ego is big very big. At the same time your a victim of every one abandoning you guys yet your betting the odds and wining vs 2 groups you must think crazy high of your self. Point is that every one has there sob story stop using it as a crutch.

SF was for the first week the major group there where a lot of old GW1 guilds on it but they all transferred. Weeks after we had another major group moving out and this week odds are most of the other major groups will leave because of your guys play.
But yes SF is not the best and i dough it ever will be but its boring to be on a world that wins all of the map all of the time you run into nothing to do most of the time. To lose as badly as SF and GoM is show that there is something profoundly wrong with the WvW system and no amount of time is going to fix it (at best you will have the top 3 playing each other over and over and the bottom 6 playing each other over and over).

Hey Guys,

We had a discussion today about taking 20-30 people of our guild (wont name), to help out the other servers. This is not about us being the best in the world because we are not. My guildies didn’t want to do this for various reasons many which I agree with.

Our guild put together a list of other things that would help out the servers, we were in the same boat last week…we got rolled hard.

First always move in a large group in a horseshoe style on the map. EB is the better map to fight on if you are losing fairly bad (what we did it helped). The reason being is EB is much easier to move through in the horseshoe style.

We want you guys to push the map because if you push, then we can push. If Yaks Bend owns everything then it spoils the fun for everyone!

Build your world communication, promote WvWvW, use Mumble, Vent, Commander chat. Remember always stick together.

Thanks

I am done arguing this point. Come out to BG and we can bash our heads where it actually counts.

I wish I had a better rig to capture these “endless Yak zerglings.” At one point, GoM was laying siege to Greenbriar really, really hard. They seriously had like 30+ out there with at least 4 catapults. We had maybe 10 defenders. We decided to send out 5 in a full frontal suicide to take out the siege and wow, not only did we take out the siege, but we killed maybe 5-6 GoM on the way and the ENTIRE GoM zerg turned tail and ran. This wasn’t due to Yak’s superior numbers (which we didn’t even have), it was due to no solid commander/guild being present to keep discipline amongst the zerg. They by all rights should have wiped us before we got anywhere close to the siege.

This has been happening a lot on this match up. We see a larger force, shrug, and charge in. The vast majority of the time the enemy zerg turns tail and runs.

It’s worth noting that this is only on SFB. I can’t speak for the other maps.

Hey Yaks!

Its not like you have a low score. Why must you spawn camp? Talk about tactless and classless.

And now you’re trebbing the spawn area? Stay Classy!

melodyca.8921:

Hey Yaks!

Its not like you have a low score. Why must you spawn camp? Talk about tactless and classless.

Yeah, it’s terrible. Trust me when I say that our commanders have something like “Guys, don’t spawn camp. It’s poor sportsmanship,” on macro or copy/paste.

I apologize on behalf of all Yakkers.

patricide.1062:

melodyca.8921:

Hey Yaks!

Its not like you have a low score. Why must you spawn camp? Talk about tactless and classless.

Yeah, it’s terrible. Trust me when I say that our commanders have something like “Guys, don’t spawn camp. It’s poor sportsmanship,” on macro or copy/paste.

I apologize on behalf of all Yakkers.

I know not all Yak’s spawn camp. I figure its the youngsters doing it.

I wish they would not treb the area close to the spawn. We just want a fighting chance. Its not like we will take your win or anything.

And all of a sudden 20 people show up against 10 at SF borderlands.
Yea, you have your moments, the rest are like this.

As long as you guys have more on at any given time, game is set. You win, we lose, no one wants to play anymore. Taking ball and going home.

And still no one is killing those bots in the water, why?

Oh they all Yak Bend’s bots.

Well if pvp gets boring there’s that to do.

@ AsteriskCGY some times the bots are not bots and its very hard to kill them because they have 3 orb buff and SOMETIMES you have random ppl “save” them by killing the ppl trying to kill the bots. Took me nearly 2hr to kill 5 of them and there well over 30 of them in the bot orgy ball of there.
Meh no luck too many of them and some random ppl like to “save” the bots or are them self gold sellers too i report them as such.

Ran Yaks bots off! now to GoM.
Ok GoM done thx for the help from GoM i must say sry if we hit you. now out SF.

Most of last week there was no better than a dozen Yaks on a map, ever.

In the N.A. we wanna be on the winning team. Win or don’t play at all.

No one seems to be motivated to head to the borderlands for SF. I’ve been roaming around and must admit that as a whole YB probably has some of the worst individual players I have encountered thus far. I rarely seem them dodge or make use of any cc and you can quite easily bait them. The raw numbers certainly are rolling over anyone, but small skirmishers are usually lost by them.

And they can set up catapults in an instant while we have to run around for supplies. Yea, that’s being fair.

mulch.2586:

Most of last week there was no better than a dozen Yaks on a map, ever.

In the N.A. we wanna be on the winning team. Win or don’t play at all.

There is also a such thing as being honorable. Spawn camping is not honorable.

i’d be willing to bet most of the people doing the spawn camping on yaks are peeps who wouldn’t fight last week because we were losing

Hmmm. And this is why there is no fights actually going on. [IMG]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/mrmoof/gw066_zps240f5d68.jpg[/IMG]

I play for GoM, and all I can do is shake my head right now. I know not all Yaks are to blame, but shame on you people who just transferred there to win. You are quite pathetic.

Arena Net, please fix this.

We tried to actually make the fight fun last night by holding Umberglade and Pangoss supply camps with a guild group of 6 [NEWL] and and one other guild group and then catapulting Ogrewatch, but we finally got zerged down/3 orb’d after about 45 minutes with Ogrewatch gate at 15%.

We took the lead the first 24 hours of this match up. But it wasn’t through sheer outnumbering. I believe our server was mad at last week’s loss and we were way organized across all maps.

It was pretty obviously just night capping, you can just look at the server data and see that the match was completely even until your server 100% capped everything between 1-6am Saturday morning. GoM is such a dead server (especially with large guilds transferring away) unless its between 6pm-12am and that’s not anyone else’s fault. It just is what it is. The server used to at least be competitive on Friday-Sunday to start a matchup, but now people don’t even play much on the weekends.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/43

100% Night capping is just getting so old for people now, I don’t think a lot of people even care to try anymore. Just a really sad flaw with the WvW aspect of the game.

sajjiro.4907:

i’d be willing to bet most of the people doing the spawn camping on yaks are peeps who wouldn’t fight last week because we were losing

I am on Yak’s Bend. I have found since Sunday morning that a majority of the people running around on Yak’s right now are PvE players or clueless. They are looking for map completion and easy kills. I have watched players follow the bots so they can get exp/coin ugh. Please kill them all if possible. I will even revive them one by one so you can just keep killing them heh. I see names in chat that I have never seen before screaming “huge zerg inc to xxx” to run over and find a group. Players dieing because they don’t know how to get inside a tower with a gate up. “Is tower xxx bugged? ….no….then why is there no waypoint to it?” Golems doing jumping puzzles. I am sorry you guys are having to deal with this. Shh… Don’t tell anyone but I sometimes jump on the siege equipment so they can’t use it to spawn camp. If I could just get a few more people on our server to hold them and not use them destroy away and enjoy my free badges.

JQ/Other transfers to SoR screwed us not for 1, or 2, but 3 weeks of a fun fight. They steam rolled us. We get dropped down and steam roll tier6. Next week when we are in tier 4 fighting a server that was just in tier3 we will hopefully be bumped back to tier5. Stay classy Yak’s and lets remember this is just a game.

Shrack.8013:

It was pretty obviously just night capping, you can just look at the server data and see that the match was completely even until your server 100% capped everything between 1-6am Saturday morning. GoM is such a dead server (especially with large guilds transferring away) unless its between 6pm-12am and that’s not anyone else’s fault. It just is what it is. The server used to at least be competitive on Friday-Sunday to start a matchup, but now people don’t even play much on the weekends.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/43

100% Night capping is just getting so old for people now, I don’t think a lot of people even care to try anymore. Just a really sad flaw with the WvW aspect of the game.

6PM -12AM in whose timezone, why is the concept of a world outside of the USA so hard to understand for some players. The game is marketed worldwide but those from outside the USA are continually accused of the equivalent to cheating for just playing the game in our primetime. WvW match up reset is roughly just after 10AM on a Saturday morning for me but I am accused of using bad tactics if I then play for around 12 hours to help my server.

This is a criticism of the false concept of “night capping” not the poster who I quoted. If your server has no oceanic base, try to recruit some guilds that have OC/Asain timezone players by advertising no waiting for WvW.

I realize you said you’re not criticizing my post, but if you play on a North American server and a server captures 100% points during what is generally considered nighttime for most players on those servers, it will probably be referred to as “night capping” :P. So a general NA server timezone for most players would be EST, CST, or PST. But I’m not accusing anyone of cheating, or bad play, or anything like that. It just is what it is. GoM doesn’t have a night time presence, and due to the fact, won’t have much of a WvW presence at all anymore tbh as it dropped from a tier 2-3 server right before weekly matchups started to a tier 7 server (what it will be this Friday). People have left/are still leaving for greener pastures.

I mean honestly, if I was playing on the Oceanic servers I would be night capping points on some servers with very little opposition. I wouldn’t be upset over someone saying I was “night capping” them because it would be true. Because it’s an Oceanic server where the prime times are completely different.

Mormi.8470:

Shrack.8013:

It was pretty obviously just night capping, you can just look at the server data and see that the match was completely even until your server 100% capped everything between 1-6am Saturday morning. GoM is such a dead server (especially with large guilds transferring away) unless its between 6pm-12am and that’s not anyone else’s fault. It just is what it is. The server used to at least be competitive on Friday-Sunday to start a matchup, but now people don’t even play much on the weekends.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/43

100% Night capping is just getting so old for people now, I don’t think a lot of people even care to try anymore. Just a really sad flaw with the WvW aspect of the game.

6PM -12AM in whose timezone, why is the concept of a world outside of the USA so hard to understand for some players. The game is marketed worldwide but those from outside the USA are continually accused of the equivalent to cheating for just playing the game in our primetime. WvW match up reset is roughly just after 10AM on a Saturday morning for me but I am accused of using bad tactics if I then play for around 12 hours to help my server.

This is a criticism of the false concept of “night capping” not the poster who I quoted. If your server has no oceanic base, try to recruit some guilds that have OC/Asain timezone players by advertising no waiting for WvW.

But.. NA matchups. It’s not a false concept; oceanic players know there’s a free win on an NA server against a server with nobody online during their primetime, and you know the system is broken when you need to have overseas players just to be competitive against other NA servers. This game should either have real balance for variable server populations, or region locking. Not neither. ‘night capping’ is definitely an issue, honestly.

Chewie.1249:

Hmmm. And this is why there is no fights actually going on. [IMG]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/mrmoof/gw066_zps240f5d68.jpg[/IMG]

yer it sucks sor did that to us last week , cant speak for anyone else on yaks but i ain’t doing it.
seems sor got to were they wanted to be and moved us into a match up we shouldn’t be in .
i’ll most likely be doing alot of pve this week , hopefully we all get a better match up next.

Chewie.1249:

Hmmm. And this is why there is no fights actually going on. [IMG]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/mrmoof/gw066_zps240f5d68.jpg[/IMG]

Thank you for the screenshot! This actually helps. I will forward this to the alliance leaders and see if we can’t get these guilds in line.

I think that after a certain point the orbs and/or the map should reset. This is coming from a Yakker.

There was a GoM defender camping the vista at Spiritholme. He shot arrows at me and another person trying to climb up to it. All I have to say is, well done. I actually found it pretty funny, especially when we fully focused on getting up there and didn’t notice the 5 GoM players sneaking up behind us lol

I think there should be a supply point inside each spawn point, and trebs at the walls. This lets the attacking team build out from their starting point, instead of having to fight out against a group with supply to take anything.

They should make the guards at the gate, legendary.

At the spawn in your own borderlands. Like they do in other server’s borderlands.

They need to remove orbs from the game this **** is not posibble i don’t enjoy wvw with those noobs with 15% hp and 150 for all status

Slow golf clap

Nice steal on EH for the orb with the golems.

congrats to sorrow furnace for schooling yak noobs! … yes im a yak player .. been yelling at people to leave their spawn points alone .. but no .. hey had to try and camp … SF players put up 5 golems and took EH in 2 minutes .. i would give you an award if i could now hopefully they will learn …

etsmith.9025:

congrats to sorrow furnace for schooling yak noobs! … yes im a yak player .. been yelling at people to leave their spawn points alone .. but no .. hey had to try and camp … SF players put up 5 golems and took EH in 2 minutes .. i would give you an award if i could now hopefully they will learn …

Based on what I have seen the majority of YB seem to behave like lemmings. The raw numbers advantage allows you to pretty much steamroll us, but I can’t imagine things going well for you with similar numbers/night time activity.

Sigh, ok man. Lemmings.