Guild Wars 2

Keep it civil, folks.

Welp, Yet again everyone teams up on ET to crush us before we get out the gate. Now in two days We’ll be criticized for ‘quitting’ when everyone’s sick of repair costs. Lovely.

Bios Element.7548:

Welp, Yet again everyone teams up on ET to crush us before we get out the gate. Now in two days We’ll be criticized for ‘quitting’ when everyone’s sick of repair costs. Lovely.

It’s War bro it happens

Haven’t seen anyone on the server or forums talking about teaming up to pick on either opponent. It’s just what it is, a grab for map control where each server can get it.

Actually – I have seen AT MOST 10 ET in the last 2.5 hours.
Its not that you are getting double teamed you don’t seem to even be here.

Played 3hr30min starting from the reset. Really amazing match so far. I was in ET BL so it was interesting fighting their entire server, lol. They were doing well actually. They may not be competitive in the overall match, but they were a force to be reckoned with on their map. FA took an early lead and made it 500 points ahead of Yaks, but for over an hour it has been going back and forth. Hopefully we have equal night presence. Two weeks ago, we edged out Tarnished Coast at this time. Then they took the entire map.

Oh my god, I hope it stays even (and that ET will comeback from what isn’t too big a gap). Last time we play FA was waaaaay back and we got stomped.

GO FA! Sadly I will be gone during the weekend and unable to lend a late night hand as we so need it. I hope it stays somewhat even and a close match for when I get back! Hopefully one sever doesn’t pull really far ahead due to night capping.

Unfortunately, this will be decided by night capping unless our servers are equal which is unlikely. Whoever has the advantage will win. Comparing our NA primetimes, FA is equal if not slightly better. That was the case against TC. If Yaks is able to take the map during the night, we cannot offset all the points they will gain with the few we would during NA primetime. A lot of our players won’t bother with a map that belongs to Yaks and with everything upgraded too which will make it even more unlikely to catch up during that time.

I really like this matchup during NA primetime. FA was about 500 pts up when I logged a half hour ago, but the fighting was intense, probably the most intense sustained fighting I’ve seen on changeover night yet, which is saying something (I was on the Yak’s Bend borderlands).

I hope it’s not lopsided overnight because this is a great matchup so far. ET must have lost a lot of population or something because I rarely saw them.

I have never seen any server repair like Yak’s did for Quentin. I hammered it for 30 minutes PAST the first wall upgrade with a treb, left for a bit then spent 2 straight hours on it.

/tipped cap

I was the guy that bought all the Quentin Lake upgrades and also was running repairs with quite a few people (props to the DW guild on YB for putting a lot of time and effort into that, amongst others). At one point we were pulling supply from Langor and the keep to keep up. I also set up a ton of siege and that beat off a lot of attacks — you FA guys definitely came hard a number of times.

At the end, we had two walls down but we still fought you guys off for a good 15-20 minutes with repairs, arrow carts, and ballistas (the walls helped to tunnel you some) before you finally broke through all the way. It was truly an epic fight. Thanks to all involved.

Great fighting at and around Greenbriar in Eredon Terrace Borderlands by YB and FA tonight.

Hopefully we’ll get more fights like this all week long.

Picture of ULTD defending bay on yaks borderlands from a couple hours ago. I think we had about 15 or 16 siege within range of the gate and wall that was being trebbed. Fighting certainly has been intense and I hope it continues but I do fear that as soon as one side takes an advantage offpeak then the other side will not be able to recover and population will dwindle.

We’re pulling ahead! Of course, we could wake up to Yaks having double our score. Yeah, I’m still bitter about the TC match. We fought so hard and won primetime only to wake up to a match that was over and not in our favor. I’m really hoping the match stays close.

Good luck everyone!

I’m bummed I didn’t get to partake in the opening ceremonies, but I’m looking forward to some good fights in the future.

Dregs.3804:

I have never seen any server repair like Yak’s did for Quentin. I hammered it for 30 minutes PAST the first wall upgrade with a treb, left for a bit then spent 2 straight hours on it.

/tipped cap

Thanks, BTW, for the Karma

Arcadio.6875:

We’re pulling ahead! Of course, we could wake up to Yaks having double our score. Yeah, I’m still bitter about the TC match. We fought so hard and won primetime only to wake up to a match that was over and not in our favor. I’m really hoping the match stays close.

It’s kind of funny that this is being said about us, especially after last week. We pretty much won every US prime time night…sometimes pushing 500+ for hours straight…but lost it all early-mid morning

All in all some great battles tonight though! INSANE amount of siege at one point hitting our poor partially upgraded keep. Can’t believe we weasled our way out of that one!

Eliandal.8735

It’s kind of funny that this is being said about us, especially after last week. We pretty much won every US prime time night…sometimes pushing 500+ for hours straight…but lost it all early-mid morning
All in all some great battles tonight though! INSANE amount of siege at one point hitting our poor partially upgraded keep. Can’t believe we weasled our way out of that one!

you obviously have not played FA yet. We are tier 3, maybe tier 2 at our best during the first night…. at least until our players log off. Last week we won by over 200k points, yet during offpeak we still struggled to maintain a potential point lead. Although we held on longer than previous matches we still ended up losing a majority of our holdings most nights, not everything like normal but still.

Basically our offpeak presence can be described as somewhere between non existent and a couple guys goofing around

This is turning into a real dogfight between FA and Yaks. Some real tough fighting. I kinda think FA underestimated us a bit.

Reonhato.5914:

you obviously have not played FA yet. We are tier 3, maybe tier 2 at our best during the first night…. at least until our players log off. Last week we won by over 200k points, yet during offpeak we still struggled to maintain a potential point lead. Although we held on longer than previous matches we still ended up losing a majority of our holdings most nights, not everything like normal but still.

Basically our offpeak presence can be described as somewhere between non existent and a couple guys goofing around

This is why i was looking forward to this matchup. Yaks was a little immature as a server last time we were matched.. We haven’t really added any new guilds I know of but we have really stepped up our game an incredible degree.

Since, no server the past few weeks has been able to really beat us in our NA prime time. We even closed out prime time with CD at +400 to +600 and got nightcapped on just like you say happens to you guys.

Great fighting all night. I really do feel like FA is extremely strong in prime time. I saw a lot of great coordination from some great groups on FA. In the end, as i go sleep Yaks managed to edge it out though.

Well, sadly it looks like the other servers do not field much of an early morning presence.

This match really shows that FA needs to recruit many more people overnight. The majority of FA players are NA based so when night time comes around we lose 90% of our WvW presence and with it go our holdings. At night we don’t even have enough players to fill one map. Still, the lack of orbs will mitigate the fact we will lose everything at night somewhat so the score will end up more even than before. Yaks is still going to win by a large margin though because FA has extremely little overnight presence and ET is still not in the right tier after its mass exodus.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/39

We got night capped.

Relentliss.2170:

This is turning into a real dogfight between FA and Yaks. Some real tough fighting. I kinda think FA underestimated us a bit.

A little bit of that and a little bit of slacking off during the Mag/DB fight. After the first day when it was already evident FA was going to win (not counting the fact we already beat the two servers previously), FA would always own the entire map right at the beginning of primetime. Nothing to do for the rest of the evening. The guild I’m in has daily WvW events and half of them were either cancelled or done very casually during the last match. You guys were fighting hard the entire week in comparison. But still, we managed to end our primetime this time around with 900 points ahead.

Unless something drastic happens, this will end up like the TC match.

Well, I think this match is in the bag for Yak’s Bend – you guys have an overnight force big enough to propel you to tier 3 and I wish you guys the best there. This doesn’t mean we will give you the win easily. See you on the battlefield.

Arcadio.6875:

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/39

We got night capped.

How does a server get night capped on your Friday night?
Its only just gone 10PM Eastern Australia and the QQ has started.

.. Isn’t that his point? 10pm Eastern Australia = 7am Eastern US. Everyone who was burning midnight oil has gone to bed. Don’t really know how that could be interpreted as complaining really – it’s just stating the facts, jack. We have Outmanned in every map. I’ve got no problem with it personally, we (FA) are quite obviously a Tier 4 server.

Night caps pretty much always reference NA, Mormi.

Mormi.8470:

Arcadio.6875:

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/39

We got night capped.

How does a server get night capped on your Friday night?
Its only just gone 10PM Eastern Australia and the QQ has started.

You may want to read the first post of this thread if you haven’t already.

atarigenocide.4987:

Night caps pretty much always reference NA, Mormi.

Or in relation to EU on their servers.

Very sorry for those in the US that still don’t understand that the world is round and Anet is selling their product worldwide and the default servers for anywhere east of Europe happen to be based in the US.

score update….

Since most people in the world live in Asia, no one cares what time it is in NA.

The European WvWvW servers are hosted in Dallas as well. I’m Australian on the West Coast. I don’t really understand what you are trying to achieve here – we already realise our Achilles heel is our off-peak population base which snowballs into a low morale and turnout for the week. That’s why we have been recruiting directly for this time slot. That doesn’t mean that people aren’t allowed to confirm that is our weakness in comparison to other servers without being labeled as ignorant (it is in fact, the opposite.)

Cheers

It’s really weird some people don’t want to hear about night capping. This thread is for discussing the match. It’s highly relevant to discuss why one server is gaining more points than another server. Maybe some people want to feel they are great players and the explanation that there is a population imbalance during the time period most players on the server are asleep takes away from that feeling?

Edit: Just looked at Mormi’s message history. Not a very pleasant person. Let’s not get this topic derailed.

There are two sides to every story here re the “night capping” you NA think in a game where 24/7 coverage is required that if your in bed it’s night capping, think about the European, Asian, Austrlian, New Zealanders, etc who add up to alot more people than NA when combined, get night capped by you guys?…. This is the arguement and it ends here.

Yes on Day 1 of a week long match up YB had more presence out off FA’s Peak play time. There is a long way to go in this match up and this is very early days, no need to start sooking about crappy subjects. Just remember what SOR did to YB when we had a start like this against them. Control what you can control and get out there when you can do as much as you can and have fun. Don’t come to the forums to sook about you sleeping on a Friday night.

Regardless of what ever happens, there have some awesome fights in all BL’s and in EB over the course of this match up thus far. Lets focus on them and the ones that will continue to happen through out the rest of the week as I am sure there will be plently more to come.

The bigger question is where is ET? I haven’t seen one all day.

If they had some presence our lead could be minimised some. Last week DH did just that and it was a good FUN fight.

We killed about 15 ET trying to take back ET garrison about 30min ago..
Someone commented, these ET players/guilds are great and they are totally welcome to join us on yaks because they’re obviously like us on yaks who don’t server hop chasing the glory like the top tiers..

we are totally night capping the forum right now..

juicifruitz.6251:

“night capping”
This is the arguement and it ends here..

Like I said, I’m Aussie. I still refer to it as “night capping” just like Yak’s did against Crystal Desert in their last thread. “Off-peak” capping would be more accurate, the former just a commonly used term in forums. I’m just explaining why I have no team to cap larger objectives with, and why Fort Aspenwood had a larger PPT earlier on. There’s no “sooking” here, I fully understand this is a 24/7 war – it’s just a discussion of player distribution in regards to timezones. If that is having a cry about it, what would you rather have me discuss, the dolyak/supply camp flips a 5-10 man team on borderlands can manage?

Regarding Eredon Tce, they suffered a loss of dedicated WvWers after RUIN left which snowballed into everybody leaving. Only the most determined have stayed until they find their footing again, probably at the bottom tiers. See “Henge of Denravi” and Titan Alliance as a reference.

Lubrication.8734:

We killed about 15 ET trying to take back ET garrison about 30min ago..
Someone commented, these ET players/guilds are great and they are totally welcome to join us on yaks because they’re obviously like us on yaks who don’t server hop chasing the glory like the top tiers..

Because where is the “glory” on Bandwagoning to another server…just so you can be on top and play “God”? Nahh, The game is fun either way, no need to server switch (Unless there is 1 person online in the server afk in LA….) lol. (free server switching should have NEVER been introduced, surely Anet would have known the after-effects of it….and on-top of that many games died due to Server/Faction switching, just my opinion on server switching, tad offtopic but still)

Anyway, I’m just out my bed atm and gonna go play GW2 just to farm gold/mats then do WvW later today when I’m fed-up farming ;p

Arcadio.6875:

It’s really weird some people don’t want to hear about night capping. This thread is for discussing the match. It’s highly relevant to discuss why one server is gaining more points than another server. Maybe some people want to feel they are great players and the explanation that there is a population imbalance during the time period most players on the server are asleep takes away from that feeling?

Edit: Just looked at Mormi’s message history. Not a very pleasant person. Let’s not get this topic derailed.

I’m normally a very polite person it’s purely this arguement about “nightcapping” that gets me annoyed. Until game companies give us Oceanic servers, persistent PvP worlds that have a scoreboard will continually have the arguement that the game world must revolve around the US because the servers are based there..

My best suggestion would be to have all 3 map borderlands as a single population that varies dependent on population based on the slightly under the middle server population in them. eg Yak’s have 200 wanting to get in, FA has 100 and ET has 50 then the pop cap is say 95 across the 3 maps. Other times the cap would be a lot higher as they can currently support 400 + between them. This should always allow at least an even 2 sided fight and when the 3rd server joins even better.

Some fun fighting in Yak’s BL last night. Unfortunately, I wake up and look at the score, as others have mentioned, and see we are again whomped by having a very minimal “off-peak” presence, with nearly the whole map blue.

So, looks like we’ll get sent down a tier or two again, where we’ll headstomp the other two servers, kicking us up again, be nightcapped back down, headstomp back up, get nightcapped, headstomp, etc…

Joiry.2504:

So, looks like we’ll get sent down a tier or two again, where we’ll headstomp the other two servers, kicking us up again, be nightcapped back down, headstomp back up, get nightcapped, headstomp, etc…

It’s still very early, but based on the current scores, we would remain the green server of T4 next match. Reason being that we are far ahead of ET that our rating would still increase.

Yaks would move up to be the red server of T3 against TC and CD. We would fight HoD and DH. Looking on the bright side, we will switch places with Yaks two weeks from now as the server getting slaughtered by TC.

And we are recognising we can’t match YB’s Oceanic/Asian/Euro forces. Nuff said. Still skirmishes to be had, and fortified stuff for our peak forces to hit later on. Morale will be down but I know some PRO, ULTD, UK will be up late – adding GODS, PTX, Echo etc for primetime to cause trouble. Shout out to all of ya to give em’ hell. See ya on the battlefield.

Well, we’re going in as the highest ranked server of our tier – if we continue to fall behind 10k pts a night (and probably worse during the weekdays), our loss penalty will be much higher.

But, as you point out, we’ll be saved this week, and possibly next week, by the continuing descent of Eredon and Denravi down the ranks due to their population losses. But longer term, unless we get an off peak presence or Anet gets their something out of their somthings on nightcapping, we’re looking at that cycle of WvW for a while. Uncompetitive matches one week were we stomp, then get good fights for a week during primetime, only to be sent back down due to night capping, so we face another week of uncompetitively stomping two lower servers, etc, etc, etc

Yeah, the situation in T3 and T4 is unfortunate right now. TC is beating CD by the same margin Yaks is beating us. Unlike our match, TC has been in the lead since the beginning. From fighting both TC and Yaks right after the reset, I would rate TC’s primetime force as very slightly better or maybe equal. Seeing as how Yaks lost to CD, TC is pretty much king of T3 with the exception of T2 servers that may temporarily be knocked down a tier.

Once HoD and ET are out of these tiers, FA/Yaks would play against DH and Mag (or DB if they make another comeback). Without new recruits, FA/Yaks would bounce up and down T3/T4, lol.