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Hahaha couldn’t help but laugh at Maniac’s post.
Especially becase Tetnis.9137 and other Yak guys keep coming here to cry that FA has been getting huge EU transfers while we lose everything and have the outmanned buff even in our borderlands in NA off-peak hours.

Seriously less QQ more pew pew Yaks. I could start whining here that u guys have just taken everything from us early in the morning (we just lost the garrison fight from Maniac’s screenshot to the endless Yaks zerg) but instead I’ll just look forward to taking it back

As a yaker, what I observed is us Yaks have a lot of small guilds. We do have 3-4 larger guilds, but 3-4 large guilds can’t win the whole map. So you end up having a large PUG zerg running around, taking everything and not defending.

Seemed to me, every time I run into FA, it’s usually a group of 10-15 guildies. 10-15 guildies groups can easily take out PUG zergs in my experience.

Looking at Maniac’s screens (really funny btw), you can see the YB PUG zerg probably #1ing the wall below without any siege….

Hey everybody, just wanted to say thank you to all the people who in the last page or so who have kept their comments positive. This thread was a downer, but it feels like people are working to make it better.

On another note, do we know who everyone will be fighting with the reset? (both predictions would be cool).

Bedinar.1754:

Hey everybody, just wanted to say thank you to all the people who in the last page or so who have kept their comments positive. This thread was a downer, but it feels like people are working to make it better.

On another note, do we know who everyone will be fighting with the reset? (both predictions would be cool).

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Scroll down. They are projections based on the current score and are subject to change. There’s only a couple of days left so the projections aren’t likely to change.

cool thanks alot. Can I safely assume that if FA does manage to pull ahead that we can just switch the two in who we’ll be fighting?

Bedinar.1754:

Hey everybody, just wanted to say thank you to all the people who in the last page or so who have kept their comments positive. This thread was a downer, but it feels like people are working to make it better.

On another note, do we know who everyone will be fighting with the reset? (both predictions would be cool).

Well, none of this is confirmed but it is likely: FA is actually going to move up in ranking.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Looks like Darkhaven and HoD for FA. IIRC Darkhaven has an Oceanic crew that is not to be underestimated which also happens to be our weakest time slot.
HoD has put up resistance against TC & CD even after the exodus it has experienced in recent times, similar in ways to ET whom also have a fighting spirit and healthy sense of server pride.
I have watched a video provided by [MF] in their current WvW thread and I see a lot of underleveled/undergeared players but a strong will to fight and they are still willing to drop expensive siege and move aggressively when the odds are stacked against them which I admire. I look forward to it, however my prediction is FA will be on a serious blood lust next match up so they will have their work cut out for them.

You will be up against Crystal Desert and Tarnished Coast. Very strong opponents and if your server commits 100% it should be a decent three-way battle that will decide your place in Tier 3. Perhaps knowing that we will be nipping at your heels for that spot in Tier 3 will give you the motivation to exact revenge upon Crystal Desert this time around.

@Bedinar

Even if FA wins, we’d have to win big. Increases in ratings are based on performance. Yaks are overperforming and will have a bigger increase. At this point in the match, it is probably a mathematical impossibility for FA to have a higher rating than Yaks by the end. Another interesting match to look at is the tier below us. DH is supposed to be winning by more than they are. So Maguuma is actually going up in rating while DH is going down. Despite that, DH is moving up a tier because ET’s rating will decrease by a lot and Maguuma will not catch up to DH’s rating.

All this complaining about numbers….it is, what it is. Its the game design/mechanics issue. …numbers win matches (or at a minimum greatly influence it). Whether server number variations and miss-matches versus competition come from:

1) Dumb luck? – more people clicked on your server when they installed the game
2) Recruiting more “PvE only” players to participate
3) server Xfers
4) New players trying the game, or recently finishing PvE content trying WvW out
5) Daily/hourly variations in players participation – jobs, life, extreme weather
6) Score dynamics – “fairweathers”, momentum, attitudes etc etc..

It will happen and continue to happen and impact scoring in matches…especially when small changes (relative to map pop caps) in off-hour player numbers can dramatically impact the maps……our choices are to:

a) Accept it, and enjoy the fights we have (sometimes you will have more, other times less)
b) Xfer to tier where raw numbers play less of a role (i.e. top tiers)
c) Build your server to mitigate as much as you can by getting numbers/coverage
d) petition Anet to change the scoring design

I’m on FA. Sorry if how I worded something lead to misunderstanding (or especially hard feelings for anyone).

I sure hope you (FA) guys would pull ahead before this match is over. We (YB) faced CD before and their night crew completely roflstomped us. I honestly think that Yak’s Bend place is in the #4 bracket. We have too many small guilds and PUGs to compete with higher tier WvW priority servers.

I think ET is my favorite thing about this week…. they might be demoralized a bit, but at least they’re trying to stick around in their own bg. Not to mention their guild AoN was doing really well last night in the YB bg considering they only had like 6. Anyways, good fights all around and don’t get too upset YB you’ll still win this match… even if it is going to be painful for you. Honestly we’re not ready for CD anyways… unless the euro alliance xfers… then we might be able to put up a fight.

Kazak.8459:

I sure hope you (FA) guys would pull ahead before this match is over. We (YB) faced CD before and their night crew completely roflstomped us. I honestly think that Yak’s Bend place is in the #4 bracket. We have too many small guilds and PUGs to compete with higher tier WvW priority servers.

Yaks has made a big push to take back control (+545 last I checked) so doubt this is going to happen.

But I think whoever moves up from this bracket is looking at a real tough match next week, and whoever finishes 2nd is going to get a rather easy-ish win.

Even though CD handled us last time, mostly due to off hours, we know we can compete (even best) them with servers full.

Pend, ya I just logged from work to check the score. Quite a change from early this morning. Who is on the morning crew to do such a push?

We don’t have much morning crew (I don’t think) it was like that when I checked in a couple hours ago, so likely overnight, or even late last night, I know we started pushing points back up even then.

Maniac.5163:

Bedinar.1754:

Hey everybody, just wanted to say thank you to all the people who in the last page or so who have kept their comments positive. This thread was a downer, but it feels like people are working to make it better.

On another note, do we know who everyone will be fighting with the reset? (both predictions would be cool).

Well, none of this is confirmed but it is likely: FA is actually going to move up in ranking.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

none of this is confirmed

The links don’t lie. See you tonight, FA!

Wow, out of game for several days and suddenly everything is topsy-turvey. It’s great if we got some off-peak coverage finally. But I still dislike the matches (thus ranking) gets mostly determined by off-peak coverage, whether we’re winning that or not.

Pendragon.8735:

We don’t have much morning crew (I don’t think) it was like that when I checked in a couple hours ago, so likely overnight, or even late last night, I know we started pushing points back up even then.

I logged in ~9:30am eastern this morning and the map was mostly green, maybe 20% Yak’s control.

FA doesn’t necessarily need to win the matchup to take the T3 slot that Henge’s fall will open up. We have a 34 pt ranking lead going into the match, so if we can limit the change in ranking between FA and Yak’s to less than 34, we can squeeze by. Right now Yak’s is estimated as gaining ~100 rank pts and FA 42, a difference of 58. Haven’t looked at the ranking formula in detail, but I’d guess a 10-20k?? loss could narrow the difference to less than 34.

Hopefully I can look forward to intense battles tonight.

Maniac.5163:

Well, none of this is confirmed but it is likely: FA is actually going to move up in ranking.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Looks like Darkhaven and HoD for FA. IIRC Darkhaven has an Oceanic crew that is not to be underestimated which also happens to be our weakest time slot.

I think it’s our NA PST players who stay up to 3am that do alot of the dirty work. We have a fun good oceanic team as well. But we are having issues when matched against oceanic servers as our pop drops quite a bit there as well. I wish we could have more oceanic coverage to early morning pst

I wish ET would put up more of a fight

Fort Aspenwood -204 081- Rating: 1 607.816 Projected: 1 649.900
Yak’s Bend -259 090- Rating: 1 573.730 Projected:1 674.446
They are currently projected to be only 25! points behind Yaks.

If FA makes serious pushes tonight/tomorrow before reset its FA fighting TC and CD.

Interesting…

While I don’t think it will be FA moving up a tier, it would be more fun for any of the server transfers who may come to FA to fight TC and CD instead of HoD and DH. Might be more fun for NA players as well. Not to say HoD and DH won’t put up a good fight.

Hubris.7039:

Maniac.5163:

Bedinar.1754:

Hey everybody, just wanted to say thank you to all the people who in the last page or so who have kept their comments positive. This thread was a downer, but it feels like people are working to make it better.

On another note, do we know who everyone will be fighting with the reset? (both predictions would be cool).

Well, none of this is confirmed but it is likely: FA is actually going to move up in ranking.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

none of this is confirmed

The links don’t lie. See you tonight, FA!

I don’t really understand. No, numbers don’t lie – you know how the numbers change as the match progresses, right? So final results cannot be predetermined until it’s mathematically impossible for the predicted match ups to change. In that disclaimer I was referring to the entire ladder in general & if you look at the rest of the post, you would see I anticipate the outcome to be exactly what the “prediction” ladder is already showing.

Moddo.7105:

And people from FA that “claim” you have outmanned buff might want to go find out how it is suppose to work. So unles ET server is hiding a big zerg well there is no way you should have outmanned buff in a BG.

Just had to re-up this, post was auto-deleted for being in caps.

It’s sad to see this.

After the first three days Yaks and FA were civil to each other on this threads. You read a lot of “nice fight” , “nice work”, etc. Now, all you see is “hacking”, “cheating” and server transfers.

Sorry, but when FA fell behind this past weekend I congratulated Yaks for working hard and pushing strong. Now that FA is coming back with a chance to win all I read from many Yaks are excuses. Maybe we did get transfers, maybe we didn’t. But, is that cheating? No, it is not. Is there 100% proof we got more population? Or, is it just more players are playing WvW. Fort Apsenwood IS NOT a 100% WvW server. Most players are PvE focused and only WvW casually.

I won’t get into transfers and hacking because I don’t have facts. All I will say is FA fought back with strong effort and we’re in position to win this round. If the roles were reversed I would not cry or whine about Yaks play.

To win as a server it takes everyone, not just a few large guilds. It only takes 3 players to take over a supply camp (5 points) and you can take down an empty tower – with a ram – with 10 people in less than two minutes (10 points).

All in all this is a game. No need for sore apples. Show some class people.

I have never seen a server whine as much while winning as Yaks Bend is. I just read the thread in one shot and uh…it’s pretty jarring. There are repeated very angry assertions of hacking directed at FA by furious Yaks Bend members…and each and every one has been shown to not be a hack at all but rather a (what I thought was rather common) specific build or tactic.

A cnd thief got called a hacker. A d/d elementalist got called a hacker. People who used portal bombs got called hackers. People who used the report function to message people on other servers got called hackers.

Yak’s Bend, you gotta pull it together and rein in the whining and baseless hack accusations. It’s very unseemly.

I have no idea if FA is getting transfers mid match or not, but you should note that FA was matched up against DB and BG when BG first got its huge bandwagon of transfers and went from losing the match to effortlessly dominating it, so we know full well the pain of having a match decided by transfers. That said, if FA is getting some oceanic/EU transfers, great! I welcome them with open arms. We have an excellent NA primetime crew with skilled commanders, great communication and tactics, and excellent response times. But we have traditionally lacked off hours coverage.

And it’s for that reason I hope YB wins. We fought TC before and that match was also decided by off hours capping.

Holier than thou doesn’t make any one look good. Both sides have both good and poor sports. For as much “nice going” in the first couple days, there were dozens calling Yaks nothing but a zerg and complaining that FA didn’t have the numbers.

This has been one of the better WvW weeks imo. Not the best because the waxing and waning of the two servers are not symmetrical, making a lot of imbalance at times. Plus you have a 3rd server mostly out of the picture, except at times in their own BL, and this throws off the core dynamic. Still there have been quality and intense back and forth fights for periods every day.

Ireniicus.2167:

I think FA original players will have mixed feelings about this in the coming weeks as their weekend queues will essentially lock out a lot of people but I guess that’s the sacrifice required if you want to be top tier which they will be very soon if they retain these huge numbers.

Yep I know a lot of original SOR players got very annoyed at what happened with their transfers in.

Anyway I’ll be positive this has been a very good competitive week with FA in particular showing us how to use siege better. There have some fantastic battles particularly the last 2 days with the YB assault on SM and even last night Oz time with the battle at the supply camp south of the bay keep.

Maniac.5163:

In that disclaimer I was referring to the entire ladder in general & if you look at the rest of the post, you would see I anticipate the outcome to be exactly what the “prediction” ladder is already showing.

Maniac.5163:

Well, none of this is confirmed but it is likely: FA is actually going to move up in ranking.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

These two sentences are contradictory.

You are 10th. You will be 10th next week. That is not moving up in ranking.

Rating, yes. Ranking, no.

@Vorpal,

I hope you do not believe the comments of a few would speak for the server as a whole. There have been just a few Yak’s people that have done a tremendous amount of QQing in this thread and they do sound ridiculous. We do not have these types of conversations in Yak’s server mumble.

Again, please don’t judge a server population by the remarks of just a few people.

I for one have enjoyed this match since day one. And it will be hard fought until the very last second the match ends. Good luck to all!

Vorpal.4683:

I have never seen a server whine as much while winning as Yaks Bend is. I just read the thread in one shot and uh…it’s pretty jarring. There are repeated very angry assertions of hacking directed at FA by furious Yaks Bend members…and each and every one has been shown to not be a hack at all but rather a (what I thought was rather common) specific build or tactic.

A cnd thief got called a hacker. A d/d elementalist got called a hacker. People who used portal bombs got called hackers. People who used the report function to message people on other servers got called hackers.

I heard from a warrior who streams on twitch on YB that people around him were calling me a hacker for using the Elementalist elite skill, Tornado, to knock them around. He laughed and called them all bad, but, still, its like everything is a “hack” to everyone these days. If you lose, they must be hacking!

@Zilm no worries, I understand it is probably just a small cadre of disgruntled posters who don’t reflect the server as a whole. It was just surprising to see such a bunch of quickly debunked hack accusations in a row.

I do appreciate that some on Yaks bend like Severim have been pouring oil on troubled waters and pointing out that how to explain what folks are seeing.

I wish YB well and hope you guys continue to have fun on your server.

The only reasons Yaks are not happy is because they might lose another matchup due to transfers mid way through the match..against an equally matched server initially…

And it is annoying that to this day FA keeps claiming to be outnumbered….come on, whether you got your transfers or not, you guys have the same numbers as us, and more sometimes (especially last night, we were completely outnumbered in every BL except our own). You would not have made this come back if you were as outnumbered as you claim, you just took our keep in EB with over 40 attackers against our 15 defenders, am I taking a screenshot to claim we are outmanned generally? no, it happens to you just like it happens enough. drop it already and stop pretending you’re spartans fighting the persian empire, and let’s have a good match for the last day.

Pendragon.8735:

Holier than thou doesn’t make any one look good. Both sides have both good and poor sports. For as much “nice going” in the first couple days, there were dozens calling Yaks nothing but a zerg and complaining that FA didn’t have the numbers.

Ekove.4586:

The only reasons Yaks are not happy is because they might lose another matchup due to transfers mid way through the match..against an equally matched server initially…

And it is annoying that to this day FA keeps claiming to be outnumbered….come on, whether you got your transfers or not, you guys have the same numbers as us, and more sometimes (especially last night, we were completely outnumbered in every BL except our own). You would not have made this come back if you were as outnumbered as you claim, drop it already and stop pretending you’re spartans fighting the persian empire, and let’s have a good match for the last day.

There’s very few posts claiming FA is generally outnumbered. Certainly not “dozens” as in the first quote implies.

Its all been about off-peak coverage. Yak’s had better offpeak coverage over the weekend, and somehow FA had better weekday (as in workweek) off peak coverage. No one (well, very few I suspect), like having the scores heavily influenced off peak coverage issues.

If we did get transfers to help with off peak – well, what else was FA (or any server) supposed to do? Just leave huge gaps in coverage? Must all transfers happen only exactly during the new matching phase on fridays?

The match is now competitive for the last NA primetime, so let’s have some big fights. Yak’s will likely still win, but if FA narrows the margin of victory enough, its still up in the air who advances. Heck, probably big fights right before the reset tomorrow as well, unless Yak’s can keep their current lead through the night and morning.

@Joiry I have nothing against transfers, sure it is frustrating in the middle of the match. Still I have been urging my server myself to try to recruit while transfers are still free and many individuals/guilds are still jumping from one server to another trying to find a home server.

What frustrates me is FA still talking about us like we are a huge zerg and they are a few elites….when our servers are pretty much identical in numbers and player type distribution, and that is why we are having a close match. We started this topic with respect towards FA until they started treating us like elitists.

And by the way, I am myself frustrated with people from my server complaining about hacks/spies. ALL servers have hackers and spies, but I doubt any of them or on a reputable guild. Most of this invisibility complaining comes from rendering issues and people logging out before being stomped….which I’ve seen more people do this week than I have ever seen.

I highly encourage anybody on FA to roll with us unlimited [ULTD] some time for fun WvW using well developed tactics at the forefront of the meta game! Enjoying this weeks matchup, win or lose I hope to see Yaks again in the near future.

I love how some yaks players complain about FAs sudden transfers over and over again, complaining about how we outnumber them, then as soon as it looks like FA might actually be able to come back the map turns blue and the lead gets pushed back out to an almost impossible margin.

As I and some other FA players have been saying, it has had nothing to do with the numbers on FAs side, the only reason we were able to come back was the dramatic decrease of yaks.

I’m pretty new to WvW (in fact, I was a bit confused when they did the server switch to YB and ET because I had no idea what was going on), and I only started maybe a week or so ago. I’ll be the first to admit I’m not the best player. I like to play in groups because there’s some protection with better players, and I make good bait.

I oddly thought that I’d find plenty of FA players to group with on the weekend that the switch happened, but to be honest, I had a hard time finding a group of FA, but everywhere I went I ran into large groups of YB, no matter what map I hopped to in my search for an FA group. I ran into a few small FAs, but nothing sizable.

I’m pretty sure YB had the numbers in the beginning, and there was no way that was the same group that I was running into within a small amount of time of each other on different maps.

They would spot me, this lone FA searching hopelessly for herd protection, and the zerg would descend upon and savage me like the Walking Dead on a Star Trek red shirt. They didn’t even leave the bones.

Needless to say, I had excessive repair bills that was draining my already meager coin purse.

On the days I got to play with DB and Mag, I didn’t experience that sheer volume of players. Sure I’d get unlucky and run into some smaller zergs of them while running around learning the ropes, but not like I encountered map hopping on that first weekend with YB.

Just figured I’d throw out my experience there as I tried to seek the FA herd.

I have to say, at the beginning of the thread, I was rather impressed with the spirit of the game. Servers congratulating servers and tactics. I was thinking, “Wow, this is a grown up game. No big egos and talk of pwning or morons.”

Right before the match change, I was whispered to by a Dragon Brand (I was a bit shocked he could do that, because I didn’t think you could talk to opposing factions), and he asked me a question that stuck out.

That question was “Who do you think is more annoying, DB or Maguuma?”

My answer…“Neither.”

This is a game, and the point of the game is to harry each other and hold the points. It wouldn’t be much of a game if you didn’t. I’m still learning, and my hat is off to those who have displayed good sportsmanship.

Sure, I get frustrated, too. After all, I’m a bad player and I die a LOT (on a class that someone told me was OP, to which I said something along the lines of only if you’re good at it and I’m bad). Running back to your position when you die without much in the way of speed buffs can get old when you die that much.

The fun is in the play, so play and enjoy yourself.

rhonyn.6810:

Ekove.4586:

The only reasons Yaks are not happy is because they might lose another matchup due to transfers mid way through the match..against an equally matched server initially…

The weekend scoring suggests that our servers were NOT equally matched (24/7) IF that scoring dynamic maintained during the remaining (ie majority) of the match time. In fact if the ranking system was functional (and any reliable measure of server strength) one would have to assume that FA would close the gap as “equally matched” servers should generate close scoring matches after the full 7 days play out.

There are lots of ways this could occur with and without xfers playing a small or large role. For example- you may have a larger weekend warrior contingent then us, we may have had a larger group of folks w/o power over the weekend….could be all kinds of stuff. It’s the reality of matches now and going forward in these mid/low tiers – small changes in off-peak player participation can have a large impact….and it doesn’t even require that many people unfortunately (ie 10 of your guys taking a break and 10 more of our guys showing up is a 20 person swing….during a time period with perhaps 30 people on the map is meaningful) – it’s the nature of the game, be prepared to be frustrated continuously if this upsets you…..and wait for the double teams to create even more angst!

Hubris.7039:

Maniac.5163:

In that disclaimer I was referring to the entire ladder in general & if you look at the rest of the post, you would see I anticipate the outcome to be exactly what the “prediction” ladder is already showing.

Maniac.5163:

Well, none of this is confirmed but it is likely: FA is actually going to move up in ranking.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

These two sentences are contradictory.

You are 10th. You will be 10th next week. That is not moving up in ranking.

Rating, yes. Ranking, no.

Could you nitpick a little more? I didn’t use your preferred term for the position of the server in comparison to the others, this is just being petty. Rating of what? The servers performance? Um, in comparison to other servers? Sure sounds like a ranking system to me. I didn’t say we were moving up a tier in the next match up. I actually made it clear in that post I was presuming we won’t.

Dear FA,ET
This fight has been great. If you have ever read anything about Yak’s Bend. You would know how strong our weekend force is. We usually jump ahead the first two days. If our enemy does not fold monday morning. They have a very good chance at catching us. With that said, we get bored of being 100k ahead.. A large secret that I might get in trouble for. Possibly banned and shunned from the server. in a whispering voice …there are some of us that play reset friday 7pm cst – ??… you know what ?? means… its till we pass out. That is right. We play past our NA time cause its the freakin weekend and we bout to have some fun…That makes our foes think that we have a night presence and if they have none we usually keep it for our morning crew to clean up what we couldn’t hold.

Shout out to PRO, GODS. You keep the pain coming.. sorry only two guilds I have run into in force.(I havn’t played since monday)

Picture from the first night to morning.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/0iwiX.jpg[/img]

Rocking the outmanned buff on an alt while FA/ET capped only supply camps
[img]http://i.imgur.com/BaYOO.jpg[/img]

i just wanna say Congrats to everyone who was on last night on yaks,that epic hold of AH.We did our best killed alot PRO held strong as well thanks two there 2 commanders, it was a great battle. Hope to run with you guys some more.

Kuhickaswhip.7360:

Dear FA,ET
This fight has been great. If you have ever read anything about Yak’s Bend. You would know how strong our weekend force is. We usually jump ahead the first two days. If our enemy does not fold monday morning. They have a very good chance at catching us. With that said, we get bored of being 100k ahead.. A large secret that I might get in trouble for. Possibly banned and shunned from the server. in a whispering voice …there are some of us that play reset friday 7pm cst – ??… you know what ?? means… its till we pass out. That is right. We play past our NA time cause its the freakin weekend and we bout to have some fun…That makes our foes think that we have a night presence and if they have none we usually keep it for our morning crew to clean up what we couldn’t hold.

Shout out to PRO, GODS. You keep the pain coming.. sorry only two guilds I have run into in force.(I havn’t played since monday)

Lies!….Yak’s weekend:weekday strength has been constant leaving the ONLY possible explanation for FA making any forward progress during the week being mass xfers!!!!!!!

…in fact ETs small point surge is likely from xfers too!….its a mass conspiracy I tell you!

Kazak.8459:

…We (YB) faced CD before and their night crew completely roflstomped us. I honestly think that Yak’s Bend place is in the #4 bracket. We have too many small guilds and PUGs to compete with higher tier WvW priority servers.

Hey, hey, it might feel that way but it ain’t the truth

CD did beat us by 60K but we still put 200K on the board, which as WvW matches go is no roflstomp. Our coverage won’t be up to that of TC and CD but I still think the dynamic would be interesting and a fun way to test ourselves. Likely we will lose and then be back in tier 4 anyway, so just consider it an intrepid holiday if it happens. If we do go up next match, likely FA will then get their chance after that.

Kind of interesting, and I’m not really sure how WvW scoring works, but with the match not really being in the balance over the next two days, I can imagine most YB’ers not stressing over the score. And it looks like it’s entirely possible that if FA manages to claw down a good chunk of YB’s lead, they could end up taking that 9th-place spot away from YB… the projected gap is only 25pts at the moment, and that might be less than half of the current lead, which could easily melt away with the rush FA has been on since the weekend.

And with that FA would be the one moving up to T3 while YB stays T4. Huh.

vutak.3186:

And with that FA would be the one moving up to T3 while YB stays T4. Huh.

Absolutely, which is why my last sentence above started with “If we do go up…”. Whichever of YB or FA goes up, the rank difference between CD, FA and YB will be quite small, so whoever loses in tier 3 next week will likely swap with the winner of tier 4 so long as there is no upset in tier 4.

Given the rumours of transfers to FA, I’d say they have a much better chance than YB of staying in tier 3 in the long run, though that might take a few weeks to stabilize.

Ordibble.3092:

Given the rumours of transfers to FA, I’d say they have a much better chance than YB of staying in tier 3 in the long run, though that might take a few weeks to stabilize.

Assuming the transfers aren’t all a conspiracy i would say you guys have a good shot at beating CD. We were so very very close to winning against CD but simply lacked the euro crew. If we had gotten a hundred or more fighting europeans we could have taken them no problem. I see no reason why FA can’t.

This week has been a great example of why orbs needed to be altered/removed. Finally a real fight from start to finish, and finally a week I wouldn’t call a snowballing.

And thank you for the 60+badges last night Yak’s.

Ordibble.3092:

vutak.3186:

And with that FA would be the one moving up to T3 while YB stays T4. Huh.

Absolutely, which is why my last sentence above started with “If we do go up…”. Whichever of YB or FA goes up, the rank difference between CD, FA and YB will be quite small, so whoever loses in tier 3 next week will likely swap with the winner of tier 4 so long as there is no upset in tier 4.

Given the rumours of transfers to FA, I’d say they have a much better chance than YB of staying in tier 3 in the long run, though that might take a few weeks to stabilize.

Absolutely. If we did move to Tier 3 it probably won’t end to well for us. A test yes, but the outcome is alomost certain considering our match against them two weeks ago.

Honestly, FA would probably perform better than we would in Tier 3. Nothing against the people in our server, but this game is about population and participation. Right now FA has the edge imo, even more so with the guilds that will be joining them. If you do move up, good luck FA. You are worthy opponents for CD.

I’m looking forward to a rematch with CD, but I would rather see improved 24/7 coverage on our server before fighting them again. If we do move up, we will fight tooth and nail for every inch of the maps.

Good luck to all. We shall see one another again in the very near future. FA has my respect due to the intense battles against you. While we did not have the coverage to compete against CD, they did not fight with the same intensity and skill that your server is capable of.

Just logged off for the night. Too lazy to take the usual screenshots for score updates. FA is leading in potential points. Yaks are still 52k ahead in the overall score. It’s been an interesting evening in Yaks BL. They had trebs set up at garrison to hit the west keep which FA owned. Wall kept coming down with some Yaks coming in only to get killed and not make it very far in. When I left, GODS took east keep and went to try for garrison, but it was too well defended.

Personally as an FA player this past week’s matchup has been the most fun one in a while, and I thought that even before we made our comeback in the past few days. I also think the Yaks generally plays well, for instance I didn’t know how effective defensive trebs could be until I saw them used to repel our sieges on their keeps. They also put ballistas down the cliff from their borderlands garrison trebs, which was a trick I’d never seen before and have since copied.

I’d be fine with playing YB again even if I knew we were gonna lose.

Big shout out to YAKS for the wicked contest this week I have experienced some fierce battles which have pushed me to impliment very advanced tactics to withstand countless assaults on territory that yaks refuse to let go of. Yaks response time early in the match up was incredible they were fighting on many fronts and we were unable to respond appropriately, and we were slaughtered on many fronts. I learnt so much from this and I offer my greatest respect for teaching me what I needed to do to get our unit on parr with your fantastic strategy. The pay off for you showed and a 116k lead after 2 days was the result of a massive tactical blitz.

ET keep your heads up those of you I have fought for what little you have valiantly. I have seen you get caught between two mighty armies with no where to go and stand and die fighting to the last man. I believe with time and more players entering your wvw ranks you will certainly be a force to wreckon with in the future.

To the FA guilds its about time we started working together and it really shows when we face great adversity how we can band together and fight for the good of our homeland.

Early into this weeks battle I saw morale drop in the server due to the incredible blitz by YAKS yet I noticed a renewed spirit of never say die by many of our players. I remember taking my unit deep into enemy territory to let them know we may by down but we will make YAKS fight for every point. I believe many other groups and leaders in FA had a similar picture of what I discribe and I have seen many guilds aid each other in battle. I remember PRO about to be overwhelmed and fighting valiantly with iBLUDGEN fallen dead on the field and my unit moved in to support them rez the wounded pro and turning the tide of a battle. This was great to see and it was a great feeling to assist players I have often seen leading troops into battle.

Huge Shout out to FA win or lose I am proud to be a part of a fantastic server full of dedicated skilled players who give time and service to help the many new players entering WVW for the first time.

Lastly to my guildies GODS for life I am truly honored to fight alongside every single one of you. I am so impressed with each and every one of you esp our leadership. WARBAND you fight with speed and ferocity keep moving forward and keep learning.
To the SPEC OPS ty for making WVW the best game ive ever played your sacrifice and dedication to the war effort does not go unnoticed, GREAT JOB im so looking forward to the next match up and the final battles that are gonna rock this last 20 hours.

Salute aka JEDI warrior the medical ninja

The matchup so far has been a lot of fun. Especially tonight at AB in Yaks BL. We had so much siege set up at the NE outer gate and we were having a blast holding the severely damaged wall and gate for over an hour against a big YB group.

We have deemed the formation The Lucky Talon. We would have had more but the game wouldn’t allow any more to be laid down. The inner keep looked the same, it’s a shame we had to log before we could use the stuff on the inner. This has been one of the much better matches, thank you YB and especially FA for not giving up.