Guild Wars 2

You learned that cluster bomb is the most overpowered skill Thieves have? :P

Honestly I could roll a few classes and still do crazy AoE damage. People just don’t know how to spec or play properly. Most people don’t even play or spec into the role that makes their class extremely viable. And all 8 classes have at least one.

You do realize that it’s the music that makes him do that much damage, right?

jkctmc.8754:

What food are you running, and what build are you using on your Mesmer?

Unfortunately I’m too lazy to actually have her set in stone just yet but getting to 80 I somehow fell in love with greatsword/staff and shattering/conditions. I’m very lazy in the food department, don’t really have an optimal food yet for nearly any of my 80’s!

Sorry this is about the lamest answer you could’ve received for the question! :P

Dinas Dragonbane.2978:

jkctmc.8754:

What food are you running, and what build are you using on your Mesmer?

Unfortunately I’m too lazy to actually have her set in stone just yet but getting to 80 I somehow fell in love with greatsword/staff and shattering/conditions. I’m very lazy in the food department, don’t really have an optimal food yet for nearly any of my 80’s!

Sorry this is about the lamest answer you could’ve received for the question! :P

As a mesmer you can use the excuse that “food buffs will tell people who the clone isn’t”.

Kirrund.2654:

You do realize that it’s the music that makes him do that much damage, right?

I’m only 2 minutes into watching, and I’m already giving you guys a +1 for music selection.

Cheers!

gz to the spawn camping guys in GOM… come on guys its fun and all but just move on all rdy lol

omg now your building up siege to stop us lol yay for the WP camping lol

Gota love the WP camping comments. Do you even have a clue what Camping means or is? Just because people put siege equipment out front and stops you form coming out that way doesn’t mean or is not camping. They do not have the east and west passages sieged off? No so its NOT CAMPING!! Camping is or means you spawn and insta die over and over because they are on your SPAWN point which is impossible in WVW!

Any Gom leaving their server come to anvilrock! we have a alliance and possibly faceing BP in 2 weeks ! come get your revenge on!

@Dinas

I love testing things, so I test for hours to find that build that fits my play style, and choose the food that seems to fit the build the best. Like I found out on my Warrior the +Boon Duration food allows me in his build to keep Regen, Fury, Swiftness, and three stacks of Might up permanently on myself, and my group. While I can stack up to two minutes on myself, unfortunately it seems to cap out at one minute for other players.

@Styx

The illusions crack me up. They seem to fool most people, but there is always that one person that no matter what I do, it doesn’t fool them.

@In General

I’m still a little butt hurt over the nerf to my Guardian heals. I don’t understand why it is ok for me to Kill Shot on my Warrior for 7-8k against a heavily armored opponent, or 16k-20k against glass cannons, yet it is the end of the world if my Guardian dodge rolls, and heals for 1600ish health. These recent nerfs to the Guardian has lifted my Thiefs bunker build above my Guardians bunker build, and I’m not sure I am ok with that.

Vistal.2906:

Gota love the WP camping comments. Do you even have a clue what Camping means or is? Just because people put siege equipment out front and stops you form coming out that way doesn’t mean or is not camping. They do not have the east and west passages sieged off? No so its NOT CAMPING!! Camping is or means you spawn and insta die over and over because they are on your SPAWN point which is impossible in WVW!

you have to be on GOM…. your WP killing plain and simple get over it…

was good fighting though =)
oh and i love the attitude you put in posts real positive an all…… na they aint.

This pesky little BP thief says thanks for the fun to the throngs of AR that chased me around all evening.

lol that was crazy looking at that waypoint

The aftermath of my encounter with the BP ele from hell:
http://youtu.be/k3T8UlkSpW8

I was going to try to have some fun with the situation and creep into enemy territory as a corpse, but the bug fixed itself right after. :/

A special thank you goes out to the guild of exo in Anvil Rock. Thank you for the easy badges in the jump puzzle.

Shrack.8013:

You learned that cluster bomb is the most overpowered skill Thieves have? :P

Honestly I could roll a few classes and still do crazy AoE damage. People just don’t know how to spec or play properly. Most people don’t even play or spec into the role that makes their class extremely viable. And all 8 classes have at least one.

Not hard to focus power precision crit on a toon.

Nothing is technically hard to do in this game. If I were to completely swap to a condition spec bunker build then I could make mistakes all day and not have a remote chance at dying. I can’t think of a build or class that is really that difficult to play. The difficult thing is getting enough competent people together who play as a team, which I haven’t seen many people actually do well in this game yet. I can literally count the decent small groups we’ve ran into over the past 3+ months on one hand.

And let’s be honest here: I mainly just spam cluster bomb in the video and yet I still rarely ever see thieves even using cluster bomb. It is literally one of the best skills available for the class. 5 target aoe, blast finisher, bleed, 1200 range, no minimum range, gtaoe, only 3 initiative. Yes please

What class do you even play Plok?

/shrug, I think the basic issue you are facing Shrack is that you are posting yet another Thief video. You seem like a nice enough guy, and I can appreciate the fact that you are trying to do something a bit different from other Thieves.

You are clearly a solid player, and you guys play together well as a team, (great job on the ASAP stealth rezzing), but at the end of the day you are playing a Thief, and given the current state of things…Well lets just say it is hard to watch without giving a knowing smile, and saying to oneself, “Thief #2346 doing crazy damage in yet another youtube video”

Now your guilds Engineer, does s/he have any videos to post?

Hope you guys enjoyed that present we left you.

What did you all get? I got 4 whole badges of honor after I rezzed and opened the chest.

Shrack.8013:

Nothing is technically hard to do in this game. If I were to completely swap to a condition spec bunker build then I could make mistakes all day and not have a remote chance at dying. I can’t think of a build or class that is really that difficult to play. The difficult thing is getting enough competent people together who play as a team, which I haven’t seen many people actually do well in this game yet. I can literally count the decent small groups we’ve ran into over the past 3+ months on one hand.

And let’s be honest here: I mainly just spam cluster bomb in the video and yet I still rarely ever see thieves even using cluster bomb. It is literally one of the best skills available for the class. 5 target aoe, blast finisher, bleed, 1200 range, no minimum range, gtaoe, only 3 initiative. Yes please

What class do you even play Plok?

Me? I play a Guardian. Not sure what that has to do with anything. I did not post another /faceroll /abuse rendering video.

Don’t get me wrong, I have been in fights with you guys and I am not taking anything away from you.

To be clear, if it’s such faceroll then why don’t other players do it? And there’s no culling abuse either. That would be a waste of a valuable relief of pressure that is needed later in the fight. If you watch the video all the way, almost every fight he flat out runs right into the middle of players and our team members support each other.

How about this? A lot of thieves will try to do the same to us and they either go down instantly or don’t kill anyone. A lot of the skill comes not just from hitting the right button combinations (anyone can do that) but from
1.positioning
2. knowing when to get in and when to get out
3.awareness
4.knowing how to layer combos in the appropriate situation

I realize the video does not highlight #4 as much, but that is only applicable to those particular clips.

And at the end of the day its still a group of 3-7 taking on 30+
We have probably a 90% win rate doing this.
If everyone even hits their #1 key once on one person thats a lot of damage. Its hard managing that type of pressure with aoes and what not flying around, and still come out on top. I know in these big fights a lot of times I have like 10 people just on me alone and it takes every trick I can muster to hang by a shred of life and still manage to eke out a win.

so, epic lulz from cliffside.
i saw some BP’s trying to take the wall down(twice, failed first time, so they went back to the same spot) so i remembered that temporal curtain can pull backwards. the entire bp squad was near the edge and you can guess what happened.
Good fight Bp. (i was the mesmer that just ruined your afternoon)
was pretty cute how you brought 3x the numbers when you came back the third time though! (that isn’t learning from your mistake that’s zerging, you could’ve just y’know…put the pult out of my range)

@Kirrund

Others do it too brother, and it is just that much easier on a Thief. I have 4 80s; Ranger, Warrior, Guardian, and a Thief. When I get on my Thief, it is a world of difference, and I can enter into a massive fight, and come out with 30-50 badges of honor.

It seems the second I steatlh, no one can see me for minutes from that point on, I just wade through, and pick my kills. Every now and then throwing one Cloak and Dagger if I start to take damage.

I can not do that on any of my other toons, because they can be targeted. This game has some of the worst rendering I’ve seen in any PvP game, second only to Aion, which oddly enough was created by the same people.

I have an extremely fast computer, and even I’ve seen issues where the opposing zerg did not show up on my screen until I was in thier midst. I waded in thinking I saw only a couple groups, and found out there were probably 50 there. On my other toons, they die in this situation, but on my Thief, I stealth, and get a lot of badges.

jkctmc.8754:

@Kirrund

Others do it too brother, and it is just that much easier on a Thief. I have 4 80s; Ranger, Warrior, Guardian, and a Thief. When I get on my Thief, it is a world of difference, and I can enter into a massive fight, and come out with 30-50 badges of honor.

It seems the second I steatlh, no one can see me for minutes from that point on, I just wade through, and pick my kills. Every now and then throwing one Cloak and Dagger if I start to take damage.

I can not do that on any of my other toons, because they can be targeted. This game has some of the worst rendering I’ve seen in any PvP game, second only to Aion, which oddly enough was created by the same people.

I have an extremely fast computer, and even I’ve seen issues where the opposing zerg did not show up on my screen until I was in thier midst. I waded in thinking I saw only a couple groups, and found out there were probably 50 there. On my other toons, they die in this situation, but on my Thief, I stealth, and get a lot of badges.

Aion and Guild Wars are not developed by the same people (just same publisher). Culling is client side and is completely unrelated to how good your computer is.

Lightsbane.9012:

so, epic lulz from cliffside.
i saw some BP’s trying to take the wall down(twice, failed first time, so they went back to the same spot) so i remembered that temporal curtain can pull backwards. the entire bp squad was near the edge and you can guess what happened.
Good fight Bp. (i was the mesmer that just ruined your afternoon)
was pretty cute how you brought 3x the numbers when you came back the third time though! (that isn’t learning from your mistake that’s zerging, you could’ve just y’know…put the pult out of my range)

I’m not sure your condescending attitude and gloating reflects well on our server. Are you going to make a post on the forums every time you get a kill?

So much fun to watch BP freak out over this…

jkctmc.8754:

@Kirrund

Others do it too brother, and it is just that much easier on a Thief. I have 4 80s; Ranger, Warrior, Guardian, and a Thief. When I get on my Thief, it is a world of difference, and I can enter into a massive fight, and come out with 30-50 badges of honor.

It seems the second I steatlh, no one can see me for minutes from that point on, I just wade through, and pick my kills. Every now and then throwing one Cloak and Dagger if I start to take damage.

I can not do that on any of my other toons, because they can be targeted. This game has some of the worst rendering I’ve seen in any PvP game, second only to Aion, which oddly enough was created by the same people.

I have an extremely fast computer, and even I’ve seen issues where the opposing zerg did not show up on my screen until I was in thier midst. I waded in thinking I saw only a couple groups, and found out there were probably 50 there. On my other toons, they die in this situation, but on my Thief, I stealth, and get a lot of badges.

But you missed the point of my post. We don’t abuse culling. It is very clear since the opposing zerg is already rendered for themselves, and we’re only a small group of players not using stealth before colliding. Yes, culling happens in the game, but mostly on much larger scale fights is it a problem. Only a very small % of the time are there hordes of people I can’t see until they’re right on top of me, and my computer is garbage. So, while culling does happen, going off on a tangent about it is pretty much irrelevant to the points I listed. Our rogues get targeted heaps and through assisting and careful play we are able to help mitigate what would otherwise be death.

It was just a video to show people what could be done so maybe some players could learn and maybe change their playstyle to be more effective. Instead of “oh thats kitten anyone can do that even though i dont i could if i wanted /yawn”

styx.7294:

jkctmc.8754:

@Kirrund

Others do it too brother, and it is just that much easier on a Thief. I have 4 80s; Ranger, Warrior, Guardian, and a Thief. When I get on my Thief, it is a world of difference, and I can enter into a massive fight, and come out with 30-50 badges of honor.

It seems the second I steatlh, no one can see me for minutes from that point on, I just wade through, and pick my kills. Every now and then throwing one Cloak and Dagger if I start to take damage.

I can not do that on any of my other toons, because they can be targeted. This game has some of the worst rendering I’ve seen in any PvP game, second only to Aion, which oddly enough was created by the same people.

I have an extremely fast computer, and even I’ve seen issues where the opposing zerg did not show up on my screen until I was in thier midst. I waded in thinking I saw only a couple groups, and found out there were probably 50 there. On my other toons, they die in this situation, but on my Thief, I stealth, and get a lot of badges.

Aion and Guild Wars are not developed by the same people (just same publisher). Culling is client side and is completely unrelated to how good your computer is.

Lightsbane.9012:

so, epic lulz from cliffside.
i saw some BP’s trying to take the wall down(twice, failed first time, so they went back to the same spot) so i remembered that temporal curtain can pull backwards. the entire bp squad was near the edge and you can guess what happened.
Good fight Bp. (i was the mesmer that just ruined your afternoon)
was pretty cute how you brought 3x the numbers when you came back the third time though! (that isn’t learning from your mistake that’s zerging, you could’ve just y’know…put the pult out of my range)

I’m not sure your condescending attitude and gloating reflects well on our server. Are you going to make a post on the forums every time you get a kill?

whenever it’s hilarious, yes. did you read what i posted sir? because i didn’t say ‘lolikilledbpimapostaboutit’

@Kirrund

Well actually, doing that kind of acheivement with a thief is really easy.

Like @jkctmc said, people won’t target you because you are invis half of the time. And nobidies like fighting invis, so they will aim for something else.

Add to this your incredible mobility, and crazy damage without real cooldown, and you have yourself a winning combo.

Try to do that in sPvP tho, it will be a lot more impressive.

Shoutout to the 3 [tgs] members who were in the GoM BL Jumping Puzzle.

When I saw your necromancer I had every intention of just letting you guys do the jumping puzzle so I passed you. Unfortunately you hit me and kittened up my jump which sent me into the water where i met your harpoon gun happy charr guildie.

Kicked his tail then the necro jumps down into the water. After a long and drawn out battle I claim victory over her. Im thinking “Okay, this is over” Lolno.

Ranger [tgs] hops in and engages. Eventually win over her too.

All is said and done and i do the puzzle. At the very last part who the hell decides to come dick with me? Harpoon Happy Charr… He actually downs me from water but i get back up. Do the rest of the jumping puzzle while he is filling me with harpoons. Get to the top. Jump down and kick your tail a second time.

Not a hate post but i honestly had fun fighting you guys. I hope you liked that Moa Morph.

-Derako

Lightsbane.9012:

temporal curtain

Probably one of the reasons that battle took longer than expected, my group was a chunk of that third push you’re talking about(I can only assume). We only showed up after we made sure all our other objectives were being upgraded. As we were running by on the lower end of the cliff I was wondering wtf allied dots and even enemy downed marks were doing at the base of the cliff :P

What changed with Necro’s recently? They use to be speed bumps, and free Badges of Honor like Rangers, but lately I’ve been running into Necromancers that are kicking my teeth in.

I might have to level my wifes Necromancer to learn the class, and how best to counter them. I have to say the Necromancer is the only class I know nothing about.

Fraeg.9837:

Now your guilds Engineer, does s/he have any videos to post?

I will have some up soon. :>

As for Shrack’s video and the state of thieves; it’s not really meant to be a simple thief damage showcase. Our group is built around supporting Incomingray and Shrack, and it’s an example of what thieves are capable of with organized support, and also how we set up our fights :>. While it’s true that thieves simply do higher damage than other classes if full zerker specced, and that shrack could probably destroy a small group of unaware players by himself, if you watch the video we set up our initiation so that shrack and ray can maximize their AoE damage, which is worth something! He can’t have all the credit :p

That being said, I think that when the stealth rendering issue is fixed, everyone will be a lot less bitter about thieves. Everyone can agree, even the thieves, that the culling problem is a bit silly.

Dinas Dragonbane.2978:

Lightsbane.9012:

temporal curtain

Probably one of the reasons that battle took longer than expected, my group was a chunk of that third push you’re talking about(I can only assume). We only showed up after we made sure all our other objectives were being upgraded. As we were running by on the lower end of the cliff I was wondering wtf allied dots and even enemy downed marks were doing at the base of the cliff :P

dude i laughed for 20 minutes straight lol 6 exp markers at once xD(for further reference, try to be less predictable with your siege set up when i saw it was under attack again i knew exactly where to go and there you were)

Me? I play a Guardian. Not sure what that has to do with anything. I did not post another /faceroll /abuse rendering video.

Don’t get me wrong, I have been in fights with you guys and I am not taking anything away from you.

Culling issues vs a 5 man? If anyone has to deal with a culling problem in a 5 vs 30 it is us, not the 30 people who already have 30 people loaded. You’re telling me those 30 players running into a camp don’t see us until its just too late? Come on man.

My point earlier was that EVERY class has a way of dealing with a zerg, thief is just the more straight forward version since they are literally just a pure damage and mobility class. They have negligible group utility other than shadow refuge and Steal + thrill of the crime. People still only think thieves are overpowered because soooo many people haven’t found out how to properly play their own classes. D/D Elementalists are downright amazing (and overpowered) and yet you only see a threatening elementalist every once in a blue moon because people are bad and don’t know how to play their characters. The point of the video isn’t to be a thief showcase, but a video showing teamwork. You could have replaced me and the other thief in the video with other classes and the result would have been the same, and in some cases much more effective.

And I’m not going to argue that there isn’t a culling issue with stealth. I am on the opposing end of the culling problem very often and it drives me crazy. But by fixing the culling issue it will only make our group that much harder to kill.

Others do it too brother, and it is just that much easier on a Thief. I have 4 80s; Ranger, Warrior, Guardian, and a Thief. When I get on my Thief, it is a world of difference, and I can enter into a massive fight, and come out with 30-50 badges of honor.

It seems the second I steatlh, no one can see me for minutes from that point on, I just wade through, and pick my kills. Every now and then throwing one Cloak and Dagger if I start to take damage.

Stealth and their mobility allows a thief to be great solo class. It does not make them better in a group setting (the point of the video) than the other classes listed (except maybe ranger). If you can’t dominate in a good group setting as a guardian, warrior, mesmer, elementalist, necro, etc something is wrong with you. The only classes that really have any right to complain about the state of the game are rangers and engineers. And I think both of those can still be debatable.

I don’t even understand the argument either since every side has access to the same classes. There are plenty of times in the video where we INSTANTLY destroy thieves. “HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? BUT THIEVES HAVE BUGGY RENDERING ISSUES!” Because we’re not stupid. And on top of that we’re going up against possibly 4-5 thieves every time we fight vs a zerg and they only have 3-7 targets to choose from, I.E. they can just go single target dps and be much more effective vs us. We don’t have the same luxury and have to aoe down as many people down as quickly as possible or we’re going to die. When we do lose, it isn’t because of the thief class, it is usually because of smart play by mesmers, guardians, or elementalists.

Shrack.8013:

Me? I play a Guardian. Not sure what that has to do with anything. I did not post another /faceroll /abuse rendering video.

Don’t get me wrong, I have been in fights with you guys and I am not taking anything away from you.

Culling issues vs a 5 man? If anyone has to deal with a culling problem in a 5 vs 30 it is us, not the 30 people who already have 30 people loaded. You’re telling me those 30 players running into a camp don’t see us until its just too late? Come on man.

ANY and ALL stealth causes rendering issues. 1 person or 100, what made thieves able to just keep running around a supply camp, if they cant see you makes it harder to hit you. Don’t feign naivety.

Lightsbane.9012:

dude i laughed for 20 minutes straight lol 6 exp markers at once xD(for further reference, try to be less predictable with your siege set up when i saw it was under attack again i knew exactly where to go and there you were)

It wasn’t me! My group wasn’t there till the end when we killed the cannon, then the oil, and then set up 4 rams(which was a little overkill but I wasn’t gonna complain). We were just running by on the dolyak road on the cliff below when people were apparently killing and being killed on both the top and bottom of the cliff :P

I have no idea what was going on before we showed up at the very end, that’s why I found your post so funny! Even though they are my own allies it’s still funny to see stuff like that happen, you always gotta credit a good move no matter who does it.

Yes Plok, but you don’t see me spamming cloak and dagger constantly in the video. I’m literally using shortbow for 75% of the time at least. So I’m not sure how you come across saying its a /faceroll /abuse rendering bug video. I didn’t post a video of me 1v2ing 2 scrubs while i spam cnd every 4 seconds like most thieves. I’m in plain sight for a majority of the video. And we generally save stealths for combos, rezzing, and dunking people.

But once again, if and when the culling issue is fixed, it will only benefit me because we constantly have 2-4 thieves spamming cloak and dagger on us in large fights.

edit: but honestly, whatever, we can agree to disagree.

Dovgan.8605:

I know we are in a 3 way battle, but why would {NEX} from GoM stop one person on AR from hitting a BP target? You guys working for BP?

Well, we weren’t then.
Nothing personal Dovgan, I just semi-pricey siege in a position that could be reached without having to deploy siege of our own. It’s a supply game, WvW is.
At least, that’s how I see it.

Weren’t then?

I knew it! :P

I guess I would have just waited until the wall or door was down first. No one was there, would have been a quick grab for your team. I guess the difference is I would have tried to make points for my server.

jkctmc.8754:

What changed with Necro’s recently? They use to be speed bumps, and free Badges of Honor like Rangers, but lately I’ve been running into Necromancers that are kicking my teeth in.

I might have to level my wifes Necromancer to learn the class, and how best to counter them. I have to say the Necromancer is the only class I know nothing about.

Called necros finally getting fixes, so many of their traits and skills have been bugged/notworking since release.

mischwoof.9785:

Fraeg.9837:

Now your guilds Engineer, does s/he have any videos to post?

I will have some up soon. :>

As for Shrack’s video and the state of thieves; it’s not really meant to be a simple thief damage showcase. Our group is built around supporting Incomingray and Shrack, and it’s an example of what thieves are capable of with organized support, and also how we set up our fights :>. While it’s true that thieves simply do higher damage than other classes if full zerker specced, and that shrack could probably destroy a small group of unaware players by himself, if you watch the video we set up our initiation so that shrack and ray can maximize their AoE damage, which is worth something! He can’t have all the credit :p

That being said, I think that when the stealth rendering issue is fixed, everyone will be a lot less bitter about thieves. Everyone can agree, even the thieves, that the culling problem is a bit silly.

You guys have any tpvp videos?

Nice playing with you GoM, and even AR. Thank you to both servers for the really fun fights.

Really excited about SF/HoD now.

Necro didn’t really get any buff, except to some utility like spectral graps. Nothing making necro any better.

But people are slowly learning the class. Or you might have fought some really good necro

Fights wee awesome last night, looked like GOM and AR brought their whole server out to play! We were taking Mendon and we had 2 walls down, but a group of AR about 10, held us off for 15 minutes with the walls down, we finally overcame them, it was great it wasnt a rollover! Thanks AR!

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Really excited about SF/HoD now.

You do realize it’ll be BP/SF/—— as HoD is pretty much a dead server, as far as I can tell.

WvWvW ranking system’s working overtime, here.

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

mischwoof.9785:

Fraeg.9837:

Now your guilds Engineer, does s/he have any videos to post?

I will have some up soon. :>

As for Shrack’s video and the state of thieves; it’s not really meant to be a simple thief damage showcase. Our group is built around supporting Incomingray and Shrack, and it’s an example of what thieves are capable of with organized support, and also how we set up our fights :>. While it’s true that thieves simply do higher damage than other classes if full zerker specced, and that shrack could probably destroy a small group of unaware players by himself, if you watch the video we set up our initiation so that shrack and ray can maximize their AoE damage, which is worth something! He can’t have all the credit :p

That being said, I think that when the stealth rendering issue is fixed, everyone will be a lot less bitter about thieves. Everyone can agree, even the thieves, that the culling problem is a bit silly.

You guys have any tpvp videos?

Not yet, but eventually.

We’ve all done that style of pvp to high rankings in other games. Just waiting on it to be more fleshed out in gw2 before heading in there. And WvW is more exciting, fun and intense, anyway.

So this next matchup will be my guild’s 4th since we joined Borlis, and we’ve enjoyed fighting against both Anvil Rock and Gate of Madness, I’m sure you guys are glad to see Borlis go, I just hope Eredon actually does something so you guys can have fun with ’em!

Anyhow, whether any of our servers meet up in the future or not, good luck and have fun killing!

On the off chance that you’re reading, to the Ele with the [TWIN] tag, much respect. Had fun watching you nuke swarms of noobs… Tried to call ’em off when we were dueling but its like talking to a brick wall.

We’re moving up the ladder, but just wanted to say thanks for the fun. (BP Asura Thief [HoM])

Laika.8795:

On the off chance that you’re reading, to the Ele with the [TWIN] tag, much respect. Had fun watching you nuke swarms of noobs… Tried to call ’em off when we were dueling but its like talking to a brick wall.

We’re moving up the ladder, but just wanted to say thanks for the fun. (BP Asura Thief [HoM])

Hey ! Thank you dear Asura Thief , my respect to you also, and you held yourself well against that ranger
yah we were not able to finish our duels, due to some overzealous BP players, funny how a lonely ele can attract so many flies… fought some off, came to you and paf, here they come again . And I had some fun doing those skirmishes with you too
I wish you many winning fights on your next tier, and maybe see you a next time , when your server goes down again :p

(AR ele [twin] )