Guild Wars 2

So I’m new to this bracket and hopefully from what I’ve seen thus far (last night) that the nice fights, defenses, and less running away will go on.

What are your thoughts for this week’s matchup and brief reflections on this past week that you’d like to see again for this matchup?

/bow

GoM might be moving to the next level while Sorrow’s Furnace moves down one. I think Devona’s Rest will still be in the same tier. So it will be Sorrow’s Furnace (green), Anvil Rock (blue), and Borlis Pass (red).

I am wrong. GoM didn’t move up a tier.

Well. GOM should be moving up if our commanders continue to work together and beat the ZERG that is Anvil Rock and Borlis pass. I am liking what I am seeing on gates of Madness. There is a sense of sportsmanship that is being created around the commanders that are picking up the responsibility and handling it very well.

Keep up the good work GOM. We will move up to the next tier in no time.

@Swiftwing

Oh I know DR won’t be up in here for at least two more matchups, three max. I’m just liking the activity of this bracket especially in the over night hours where on DR it would die off almost to nothing until the Asian guilds on Kaineng showed up about 5-7am EST. I have noticed AR is lacking in leadership and that most of the “big” zergs are made up of several guilds…there isn’t a powerhouse guild on the server that I can see (which isn’t a bad thing).

/wave

some nic estrategic play from BPA on AR map while i was on. i guess as i was logging in AR started to come in force. and the guys mentioned later GoM was in full effect and they both seemed to focus on us on AR map and then GoM vanished.

still debating to upload the video footage i got, which isn’t much to begin with. tonight was less about epic battles for HoM and more about just strategic plays and stuff like that.

i felt bad for whoever upgraded garrison for us, becuase i think he was up past getting the waypoint, and it was far from being completed when we got over run by about 40 ARs(which is in the video).

i’m almost starting to think AR’s strat is to log in later on reset nights and wait till we(bp) wear ourselves down/get too drunk to keep going. lol.

hardly saw either of you guys on AR map until late in the evening, and up until then we had a huge chunk of the overall wvw pie. now blue has half the pie lol.

@dirty

Nah, from what I’ve seen they’re online but they don’t have any organization…it’s a wonder that a zerg manages to take anything. Tho they admittedly say they don’t keep what they take….so I guess a chest is needed for the medals here.

ktith.6197:

@dirty

Nah, from what I’ve seen they’re online but they don’t have any organization…it’s a wonder that a zerg manages to take anything. Tho they admittedly say they don’t keep what they take….so I guess a chest is needed for the medals here.

Who are you again?

Your new to this server, and your judging what’s going on after a few hours here? Try talking to the folks that’s been here since d-day. This server has leadership so if you intend on remaining here, get to know us, don’t judge us.

You know why people on this server doesn’t bother to hold anything, because after numerous times of investing countless funds to upgrading and building siege gear to defend, we only lose it to night cappers by both sides. At reset we may get an insurge of players that want to hop on and do what they can, might be able to fill 1 map, but through the week it’s rather difficult to fill a single map with our players.

@ Khronus, your kidding right? Just before I left for work, SoS who owns your borderlands hills keep, faced off a group of 40 – 50 zerg attempting to hit the north gate, and my 15 chased them off. I think i need to start taking screen shots so i can prove that your server can’t accomplish anything without numbers. Till this day I still say it takes you guys 60 + to take 1 tower from us. Funny part is borlis pass also kept the pressure on us hitting us from the west, but SoS had full control of tower and keep. The whole time while we were outmanned. The fact GOM throws everything at us is funny, which left ARB to take ground on other maps.

SoS will be gunning for GOM all week long. Looking forward to your zergs ^^.

Some fun fights tonight in EB, Borlis Pass spent most of the night holding off two fronts from AR and GoM, while also snagging some big objectives in the process, while under the outmanned buff!

fun times.

testpig.5018:

Some fun fights tonight in EB, Borlis Pass spent most of the night holding off two fronts from AR and GoM, while also snagging some big objectives in the process, while under the outmanned buff!

fun times.

I hope you guys can keep this up, your first day numbers are amazing. Lots of fun fights with Borlis pass, I hope you guys stick together.

glad to see Anvil rock is feeling better and steppin it up. feelsgoodman keep up the good challenge bp and gom!

@Godfather

All servers that play WvW this way…have the same problem. Doesn’t matter if I’ve been here an hour, two days, or a week….the problem is, lack of sustainable leadership (committment to the cause). You all fight amongst yourselves more than you go after objectives. Plus, this server (AR) is full of zerg ICONS. I watched last night as many of your commanders would take, leave, move on to next objective and after one pass would log out or leave.

If you want to keep things on your map, let alone any other map, you’ll learn to take some constructive criticism from players that have been on more competitive worlds that know of things that you may not know or can see outside the box because you all are too blind to realize that you’re beating your chests and no sound is coming out.

From experience, DR too was a “bad” WvW server…and they aren’t any longer. They learned to suck it up and work with others, not run off at the mouth as soon as someone said hey try this it may work better. If you want to stay in the suck zone, keep doing what you’re doing. If you want to learn the mechanics of WvW and how to stay ahead, listen to some advice.

ktith.6197:

@Godfather

All servers that play WvW this way…have the same problem. Doesn’t matter if I’ve been here an hour, two days, or a week….the problem is, lack of sustainable leadership (committment to the cause). You all fight amongst yourselves more than you go after objectives. Plus, this server (AR) is full of zerg ICONS. I watched last night as many of your commanders would take, leave, move on to next objective and after one pass would log out or leave.

If you want to keep things on your map, let alone any other map, you’ll learn to take some constructive criticism from players that have been on more competitive worlds that know of things that you may not know or can see outside the box because you all are too blind to realize that you’re beating your chests and no sound is coming out.

From experience, DR too was a “bad” WvW server…and they aren’t any longer. They learned to suck it up and work with others, not run off at the mouth as soon as someone said hey try this it may work better. If you want to stay in the suck zone, keep doing what you’re doing. If you want to learn the mechanics of WvW and how to stay ahead, listen to some advice.

Wow, are you some what sensitive, maybe you need to go back to your top tier server, all i said was come talk to the leadership, instead of judging us. of course you don’t see it that way, instead you want to be the “know it all” right.

listen pal, the problem with this server is we don’t have the population in the wvw maps to support the strategies we’d like to use, yes it would be great to claim every tower and keep, yes it would be great to set up defences in everything we run through, but ya know what…, we don’t have the bodies for it, we don’t have enough bodies for siege gear we set up in the long run, again you have no knowledge or understanding what anvil rock has been through. You can say that your server sucked once, but guess what. I guarantee with all these server transfers your server got some of that benefit workin for you. So don’t sit here and tell someone who’s been loyal to his server, what needs to be done, when it’s quite obvious what we need is more players to counter the zerg groups that night cap our places when we take them. For your information, anvil rock not only took hills keep from the strongest server in this tier but we also defended it from them for several hours. As of this time 330 am pst. GoM finally took the keep from us, simply because they had more people than we did. All day long they have been smashing their heads into our gates and we stopped them, and finally when we couldn’t even get people to hit their trebs firing at us, multiple trebs btw, we knew it was over, there was simply to many of them. We had maybe 10 total in that keep left defending, when everyone else went to bed.

So again who are you? how are you going to sit here and preach “committment to the cause” to someone who’s been on the server since the begining, while your server hopping? This server has more committment to the cause than you think.

@Godfather

Tell ya what…when I see it…I’ll be the first to hand it to ya.

I’ve seen the server numbers, they’re there. However, you’ve got people that don’t even know what they’re doing and just follow the herd. Has anyone even bothered to “explain” it, or is it expected for them to just “know” it? And, night capping goes a lot of ways…that’s just timezone issues. I actually didn’t say that I came from a top tier server…I said I came from a competitive server that was in the failsauce situation that AR is having right now. Being that AR has been around before launch day the numbers present should be sufficient, however it appears that many don’t know what to do. Heck, guys are running around your server that don’t even know how to use supplies or that it’s important to carry them at all times, not take sups from towers/keeps unless building/rebuilding siege.

Personally I’ve not seen a lot of siege placement and I’ve been running all over the maps. Also, I’ve been in the not enough people to man or run the field of play and it is easily overcome with a little more effort and coordination. People don’t come to defend when asked and when they do show up, it’s far too late to do anything about it.

I have been talking to leaders, people within other guilds, people carrying icons, people that have gotten people together without an icon or guild. They’re telling me that you guys that think you’re the “stuff” are half the problem with the server. The other half of it is unpleasant explicitives of what they think. So the real question is, are you “leaders” listening to your server population? Because, again, not to be blunt…but your servermates don’t believe you are…that you’ve gotten too big for your britches and forgot about the “little” folk.

ktith.6197:

@Godfather

Tell ya what…when I see it…I’ll be the first to hand it to ya.

I’ve seen the server numbers, they’re there. However, you’ve got people that don’t even know what they’re doing and just follow the herd. Has anyone even bothered to “explain” it, or is it expected for them to just “know” it? And, night capping goes a lot of ways…that’s just timezone issues. I actually didn’t say that I came from a top tier server…I said I came from a competitive server that was in the failsauce situation that AR is having right now. Being that AR has been around before launch day the numbers present should be sufficient, however it appears that many don’t know what to do. Heck, guys are running around your server that don’t even know how to use supplies or that it’s important to carry them at all times, not take sups from towers/keeps unless building/rebuilding siege.

Personally I’ve not seen a lot of siege placement and I’ve been running all over the maps. Also, I’ve been in the not enough people to man or run the field of play and it is easily overcome with a little more effort and coordination. People don’t come to defend when asked and when they do show up, it’s far too late to do anything about it.

I have been talking to leaders, people within other guilds, people carrying icons, people that have gotten people together without an icon or guild. They’re telling me that you guys that think you’re the “stuff” are half the problem with the server. The other half of it is unpleasant explicitives of what they think. So the real question is, are you “leaders” listening to your server population? Because, again, not to be blunt…but your servermates don’t believe you are…that you’ve gotten too big for your britches and forgot about the “little” folk.

well you sure did a great job of running around, because you must’ve missed the hills keep in Gates of Madness owned by sos, that was being defended by our allies and ourselves. We stayed up late just to hold this place, so please again, talk to the leadership, not the icons, because commanders don’t make leaders, infact i don’t even like using it. You said above that you witnessed all the zerg icons making the wrong moves and people not knowing what they are doing lol, so why are you talking with them? My guild hasn’t forgotten about the little people, there is no such thing as little people, if we forgot about them we’d already be gone from this server. We know what we are doing, and we teach new members everyday that join, we power lvl them and even get them exotic gear, so again man.., don’t be judging my server nor my guild. You have no clue.

Why all the fighting?? So, someone that is new to the server wants to interject a little advice. Always welcome to hear an opinion, different points of view are always going to be there. And yes, there absolutely are people on AR that have no idea what they are doing in Wv3. Conversely there are also some people that are actually pretty darn good at it. I am sure that the OP is well aware of the history of Wv3 on AR and is more than qualified to comment on it (ie the initial loss of MVP, then TFO and finally ANV, the 3 large Wv3 guilds on the server at release) and from that the rebuilding and emergence of a few smaller guilds that popped up to pick up the slack. That AR does not have a large Wv3 population overall due to multiple guild transfers, clearly they are an authority on that. Yes AR could use more organization overall, no question. SoS does what they can do, I have played a little with them in the past, they are a good group, but the reality of the situation is most of our Wv3 community are PuGs, small guild groups, etc, that all tend to band together in little zergs and play follow the leader, even when the leader has no idea where to go next.

That being said, I haven’t been in Wv3 in almost a week, and things may have changed since then.

I would like to say that AR did good today.. we had number issues like always but we try to not give up. We tryed to hold hills from gom with only 8 – 10 ppl and they had 20+ but we never gave up ^^

Sad Panda that we at GoM are green again >.>

GoM has had less trouble taking SM than the trouble we just had taking Greenlake on BP border.
bravo pass.

Some hot PvDoor action from last week’s matchup as I level an alt:
http://youtu.be/fryIoRpDr1c

Shoutouts to my fellow GoMs who work late, play late, and have to miss out on all the good prime-time fights. AR and BP are both fun opponents when they’ve got people online. Much respect.

For those saying what the worst part of lower brackets is?

Not enough players, period. We have plenty of leadership, and good leadership imo, at least on Borlis. If there’s activity on WvW, you can bet there is a commander rallying there. We never have a spontaneous zerg appear ever.

As much as I’d love to play on higher population servers, I’m sticking with borlis for the long haul. I love the guilds on here. We may never leave the bottom two brackets, but I’m okay with that.

High pop = huge queues. Nobody that’s had competitive PvP in a lower bracket would give that up for huge queues. I remember fighting BP once or twice in the bottom bracket from the least populated WvW server in the game and it was hard then. Lately though I’ve noticed BP not as “active” as they were then, sure in groves at specific times, but not like then…but then again much has changed in 2 months too. If BP gets bumped down into the bottom bracket you guys will be fine. Kain and FC are suffering from major guild xfers off their servers for “greener” waters, and DR will be moving up in a couple to three weeks anyways at the rate they’re pulling now with full map domination for 75% of the day.

Day 2 fights have been pretty good. more active pushes back and forth. Well done, the points have an even spread!

GoM operations this evening was fun, Borlis members who defended bluebriar in GoM borderlands, you guys did great defending. Definitly slowed my guild down, but we eventually took that tower. GJ on the defense.

SoS will continue operations on GoM when ever we are on. Good luck and have fun.

sorry, but i have to ask, did BP get a mass amount of world transfers this week? or is it just weekend madness? it’s just weird that Bp has enough to defend SM AND capture things on other BL’s. maybe i’m too used to GOM being outmanned.

Supposedly a guild from DR went back to BP for this matchup, tho I don’t know how many of them returned and what guild specifically.

My guild transferred to Borlis Pass this week, we’re not huge or anything, if you see us we’ll have about an average of 6-9 people running around together. Now if you see Ascension [WAR], that’s us! I’m glad there is a guild [WAR] on AR, should be fun fighting you guys!

Anyhow we don’t count for a mass of transfers but we’ll do our best to make a difference when we’re out there, have had a blast already and am looking forward to more from our new server(hope they like us) and our enemy servers (we like fighting you guys).

We cleaned up AR’s Bot problem yet again in the GoM waters just now

Thanks to those GoM’ers who showed up to help finish them off.

Anvil Rock really doesn’t have the numbers. Surprisingly enough I’ve seen as many as 15 people a day in WvWvW just doing map completions, so they can get back to dungeon hunting.

They need to increase xp’s given for defending keeps/towers by at least five times what they are now, and every time the timer ticks down to ZERO you get xp’s just becuase you held off the force that long.

They should also increase the drop rate on Badges of Honor, and put a greater variety of armor/weapons in the WvWvW world. This way people get out of dungeons, and compete in WvWvW on the lower populated servers like Anvil Rock.

No we don’t have the population

I’m trying to understand something here, and perhaps a respresentative from Borlis pass can answer this question.

my group loves to fight borlis players, and this week you guys have shown your numbers again compared to last week. I am sitting here now as anvil rock throws everyone we can in arb to defend against your forces, and it seems equivalent to the numbers gom is showing up on their own map, plus eb.

The real threat to your lead is GoM, so i’m trying to figure out why you guys aren’t hitting gom, but instead spending your time here at arb, when arb has pretty much left you guys alone this week, at least my guild has, and has gone after GoM for posting how “dominating” they are in last weeks match up.

My question is, with all your numbers, are you spending your time fighting ARB, because your afraid to fight GoM? Just wondering, because as I see both your borderlands hardly change to either color often, but yet ARB gets green and blue majority of the time, I can only imagine this answer as a “yes”.

GoM will continue to fill two maps with their players, and hit ARB, while owning majority of the places in eb. They will catch up to you borlis pass, and I suspect if you continue to hit ARB and you don’t slow down GoM, they will surpass your score. If this continues, I may have to reconsider not leaving you guys alone on your map, since all of you seem to be hell bent on taking arb all the time. We could just have another repeat of last week, where ARB and BP fights it out while GoM takes everything else and sits in fortified, untouched towers and keeps. Because the two underdog servers in this match up can’t get it in their heads, that GoM is the threat in this tier, and not each other.

Godfather.8217:

No we don’t have the population

I’m trying to understand something here, and perhaps a respresentative from Borlis pass can answer this question.

my group loves to fight borlis players, and this week you guys have shown your numbers again compared to last week. I am sitting here now as anvil rock throws everyone we can in arb to defend against your forces, and it seems equivalent to the numbers gom is showing up on their own map, plus eb.

The real threat to your lead is GoM, so i’m trying to figure out why you guys aren’t hitting gom, but instead spending your time here at arb, when arb has pretty much left you guys alone this week, at least my guild has, and has gone after GoM for posting how “dominating” they are in last weeks match up.

My question is, with all your numbers, are you spending your time fighting ARB, because your afraid to fight GoM? Just wondering, because as I see both your borderlands hardly change to either color often, but yet ARB gets green and blue majority of the time, I can only imagine this answer as a “yes”.

GoM will continue to fill two maps with their players, and hit ARB, while owning majority of the places in eb. They will catch up to you borlis pass, and I suspect if you continue to hit ARB and you don’t slow down GoM, they will surpass your score. If this continues, I may have to reconsider not leaving you guys alone on your map, since all of you seem to be hell bent on taking arb all the time. We could just have another repeat of last week, where ARB and BP fights it out while GoM takes everything else and sits in fortified, untouched towers and keeps. Because the two underdog servers in this match up can’t get it in their heads, that GoM is the threat in this tier, and not each other.

I do not take kindly to 40-50 AR hitting me in that back while i am sieging a tower that has been a thorn in my side all day. Oh and by the way before our forces even came to your borderlands we had taken all of GoM borderlands, it was just your turn.

Also you might want to get your server in that GoM is a threat mentality, because the more you attack us in undefended areas while we fight GoM, the more our players will want to wipe you off the map.

Nalivan.6451:

I do not take kindly to 40-50 AR hitting me in that back while i am sieging a tower that has been a thorn in my side all day. Oh and by the way before our forces even came to your borderlands we had taken all of GoM borderlands, it was just your turn.

Also you might want to get your server in that GoM is a threat mentality, because the more you attack us in undefended areas while we fight GoM, the more our players will want to wipe you off the map.

AR sure did hit us (GoM) hard tonight! They got into the throne room of SM and we held them off just barely. By the time I logged off two more sections of the outer wall were down and we were still fighting AR on the other side.

Meh….it’s war. You don’t pick sides even if you want to. I have this red=dead mentality and two sides of red well…it’s just hard to see who’s what. BP picked up some peeps this week (heard from some friends on another server), but this is only the weekend. Once all the kiddies go back to school for their mid-terms this week, you’re going to see those numbers slow down quite a bit. I’ll give this bracket one thing, the numbers are by far the closest that I’ve seen in some time….which means we’re all fairly equal and not necessarily in numbers. If AR is the “weak” server and we’re managing to “push” fronts…what’s gonna happen when AR gets organized with the same amount of numbers?

I don’t usually like posting in the WvW threads as they usually turning into either boasting or flaming threads, but I don’t like all the rumors of the mass server transfers to BP this week. Sure we picked up a few, not many and not these huge guilds some of the people in this thread seem to believe. I’m sure you had some server transfers to your server as well.

But the thing you have to know about borlis is that, our population throughout the week is heavily based upon the performance of the first day. That’s while you’ll see such heavy activity from some of the larger guilds such as CORE, KREW, SBZY, GOAT etc (sorry if I missed any, not intentional) on the first day and not as much later because we know that if we can show to our server that we have a strong chance this week, and that the scoreboard reflects it, more will join wvw. Compare 2 weeks ago to last week, we had a very strong position after the first day and had good numbers throughout the week. Last week we did not organise as well on the first day and AR and GoM stepped up their game and our lower score discouraged a lot from joining.

I hope you understand the point I am trying to get across here, the major guilds and the commanders work very hard on borlis to get the population needed to be competitive in wvw through the week, not some mystical guilds that transferred that your friend heard from a friend that he dreamt about.

That aside, this has been a very enjoyable week, let’s try and get through it without this thread being locked as the general sportsmanship in wvw has been very good thus far. Just an ending note, @Godfather do not mistake your guild to be the entirety of Anvil Rock; do not take our tactics to be personal vendettas against you or your guild and honestly you do have good numbers at certain times of the day, we all suffer from the same problems.

I’m curious. Did all this ‘everyone attack GoM’ mentality spawn from one person on our server posting a picture of EB all green? After all the statements of ‘one person doesn’t represent the server’ that have been asserted – I find that kind of hypocritical if that’s the case.

In the last day or so all I’ve seen is basically AR and BP trying to take everything from us that they can. Now, there are pockets of people that hit each of you independently of the ‘big picture.’ But is two servers teaming up on ours really satisfying?

The pie chart has been telling me that you guys are basically at an unspoken truce with each other, and are going after our assets primarily. After how the last two weeks went, if this is your solution, I’m a little disappointed in this bracket. Because I see what the future holds, it’s going to be a 2v1 for the next month until one of you move up.

Not really looking forward to that.

The pie chat at this point of time is representative of two phenomena:
1. GoM just happens to be putting up the least resistance of the two servers at the current point in time hence making it more ideal for both Bp and AR look to control that map.
2. Second place is the more strategically beneficial target for both the first and third (AR has only very recently claimed second due to this focus on GOM). For borlis, GOM was the closest server in points, so it made more sense for us to begin focusing them as you almost overtook in points yesterday. For Anvil it also makes more sense as they are again closer in points and hence overtook you faster as seen in game now with AR in second.

There is no secret truce and there is still fighting between our two servers, there was no logical reason for us to purposely form an alliance on a server that wasn’t even in first place let alone winning by a large margin. Also this has only been happening for what, a few hours? We have all seen large fluctuations in the chart with each of our servers having a minute influence compared to the other two throughout this week, possibly due to population or organisation or a myriad of other reasons of which I will not assume to be the culprit.

As I type this borlis owns half of AR borderland while AR is focusing on GoM’s presence in eternal, its just the way the fight shifts as it has been all week, it’ll equalise out overtime.

@ Wispy. It’s been explained several times already. BP has a bunch fair weather fans, if they are in first place they show up, if BP isnt’ they dont show up.

@Helemar, BP and AR are simply playing smart. They are trying to keep GOM from running away with the score early like they did last week.

If you can get a big lead over the weekend, it can carry you over the week. This goes for all 3 realms and we know it.. This is going to be a slug fest all the way till Friday.

-K

Helemar.1273:

I’m curious. Did all this ‘everyone attack GoM’ mentality spawn from one person on our server posting a picture of EB all green? After all the statements of ‘one person doesn’t represent the server’ that have been asserted – I find that kind of hypocritical if that’s the case.

In the last day or so all I’ve seen is basically AR and BP trying to take everything from us that they can. Now, there are pockets of people that hit each of you independently of the ‘big picture.’ But is two servers teaming up on ours really satisfying?

The pie chart has been telling me that you guys are basically at an unspoken truce with each other, and are going after our assets primarily. After how the last two weeks went, if this is your solution, I’m a little disappointed in this bracket. Because I see what the future holds, it’s going to be a 2v1 for the next month until one of you move up.

Not really looking forward to that.

Ahahahahaha, man really! :P

Seriously tho, an alliance between BP and AR, I don’t think it would be possible. You only have to read the forum, and you’ll see we have some bad blood between our large guild.

Personnaly, I have a sense of rivalry with BP, and I wouldn’t ally with them because We would miss a lot of good fight.

Anyway your statement is baseless, too much fluctuation in the map. Yesterday afternoon, EB was all Green and Blue. Seems like AR part of the map were their playground. We got spawn camped by BP for a bit, while Green Didn’t feel like going for BP territory, they went straight for AR and took what BP didn’t take yet.

But there are no alliance between them, it just went that way. And I loved BP trying to spawn camp us, just to get wiped will we had the outmanned buff. Once a Commander showed up and PuG started to follow it, we got everything back under one hour.

I gotta admit, BP did an awesome job putting constant pressure and building a lot of siege in our keep.

During the evening, we had some good time too. But we also have some new commander, and some other commander that can make mistake. We were in BP BL, and started taking territories. Taking tower, taking the bay.

That’s when we woke up the BP war machine, their zerg came out gun blazing and wiped our commander group (missed it tho).

That when our commander took the worse decision they could take. We could defend the bay and slow down the zerg, but they decided : “Hey! Why don’t we attack GoM while BP attack the bay”. And that’s what they did, and they woke the other war machine, the GoM assault team!

After that, not only did we have BP zerg coming our way after taking Bay, but we had a GoM zerg coming the other way.

We got wiped from the map.

A commander icon can make us win, but it can also make us lose everything. I usually form a guerrilla group now, to do tactical assault.

P.S : Shout to other AR player, is it me or more then half our WvW population seems to be underleveled? Each time we form a guerrilla group, we have really low level people with us. I feel lucky if I can get one level 80 in my group.

jkctmc.8754:

Anvil Rock really doesn’t have the numbers. Surprisingly enough I’ve seen as many as 15 people a day in WvWvW just doing map completions, so they can get back to dungeon hunting.

They need to increase xp’s given for defending keeps/towers by at least five times what they are now, and every time the timer ticks down to ZERO you get xp’s just becuase you held off the force that long.

They should also increase the drop rate on Badges of Honor, and put a greater variety of armor/weapons in the WvWvW world. This way people get out of dungeons, and compete in WvWvW on the lower populated servers like Anvil Rock.

You can lie about AR not having numbers all you want. Fact is you guys have numbers, it’s just we have more when it isn’t a work day. On work days AR far outnumbers BP. Just look at how things are right now. You guys are dominating, and we have the outmanned buff. Now later today once people are out of work, we might take it back from you. For now though it’s about 10 of us trying to defend against your zerg. We can’t hold, but we can stall. That is until the rest of us leave for work.

It’s pretty typical to come home and see all red. We take it back, hold it till sleep. Goto work, you guys take it back. Just how things are.

GoM here. Good match all around! That this post turns into accusations, name-calling and finger pointing week after week demonstrates poor sportsmanship, in my opinion. A bit of friendly and tasteful chest pounding is warranted. The way it’s going now this post is going to be closed by a moderator soon.

Got some great screens of GoM defending AR. Awesome match guys =/

uploading screens incase people think it’s just bad mouthing.

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8546/gw657.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7960/gw655c.jpg

Will upload some more later from yesterday

Lots of conspiracy theories here. Kind of funny to read.

For the vast majority of the players on these 3 servers – thanks. These past few weeks have been very entertaining. Supa Pimp would especially like to thank all of those AR and GoM members who have proceeded to help me level up. Some very fun fights (especially when all 3 servers were fighting over the same piece of territory at the same time).

Sure would like Arena to render some of you guys though (before I take a dirt nap).

Sedistik.7106:

Lots of conspiracy theories here. Kind of funny to read.

For the vast majority of the players on these 3 servers – thanks. These past few weeks have been very entertaining. Supa Pimp would especially like to thank all of those AR and GoM members who have proceeded to help me level up. Some very fun fights (especially when all 3 servers were fighting over the same piece of territory at the same time).

Sure would like Arena to render some of you guys though (before I take a dirt nap).

Screen shots help break through the conspiracy theories though. Unless you think someone convinced the other side to stand there while they were being made. Don’t worry, have some more to post when I get a chance.

I personally don’t think its either side entirely doing it. I do think there are select groups (and I include my own server in this) that work with the other side. It’s pretty easy to do if you happen to have say a guild on each side on the same ts/vent/skype.

I do agree that lots of the other people posting have no evidence at all. Not screen shots, or chat, or anything like that. They are probably just angry. If you just take today though there was a group of GoM that would consistently come to the rescue of AR. It was so predictable we managed to pull off a few ambushes because of it. After those two I posted we were chased back by the group of AR/GoM. A few ambushes later though and things seemed to be back to the regular 3v3.

Just clearing it up that I don’t mean to say it’s all of GoM doing the teaming up thing. A few, but then again we probably have some doing it on BP too. If they do they aren’t open about it on chat, knowing the people from BP the way that I do they would call them out on it and wouldn’t take part in that nonsense. I would like to believe the general wvw population on GoM/AR are the same.

Kardiamond.6952:

P.S : Shout to other AR player, is it me or more then half our WvW population seems to be underleveled? Each time we form a guerrilla group, we have really low level people with us. I feel lucky if I can get one level 80 in my group.

I’ve noticed this as a BP player, several times over the past few weeks I’ve been in fights with AR players I killed really quickly, and I could only assume they were actually quite low-leveled. I know that my guild has a bunch of players who are always in WvW with their alts because you can level up quite quickly, it may be that it’s just more widespread on AR?

Anyway, I’ve really enjoyed the match so far! I love it when things are really close, it makes it exciting.

I’m having a good laugh reading this thread. I’ll have 2 of those crazy pills you guys are having please.

DR moving up to our tier?
Mass transfers to Borlis Pass?
AR and BP have an alliance?
AR and BP have zergs but Gom doesn’t?
BP getting bumped down to bottom tier?

Man, what secret ingredients did you use to make those brownies?

Honestly though, the match is super balanced this week. So it’s been very fun as well as very stressful, specially for commanders in Eternal.

@God – I kinda like your way of thinking and honestly, I just prefer to fight GoM cause I don’t like the color green. Though I look at the map and I judge what must be done in each situation and I tell you, whenever AR attacks me, I’ll go back and attack them.

I dunno about your borderlands cause I haven’t been there all weekend long. But I’m sure I saw your guys in ours.

BTW, I love fighting SoS and CRFT. If you guys ever invite me to come to your TS for a chat, I’d love to mean you in voice. Maybe we can make GoM even more suspicious that we have an alliance. LOL

Though I have to tell you one thing – we love trashing you guys while we play, and that likely won’t change.

DKz Lux.4125:

I’m having a good laugh reading this thread. I’ll have 2 of those crazy pills you guys are having please.

DR moving up to our tier?
Mass transfers to Borlis Pass?
AR and BP have an alliance?
AR and BP have zergs but Gom doesn’t?
BP getting bumped down to bottom tier?

Man, what secret ingredients did you use to make those brownies?

Honestly though, the match is super balanced this week. So it’s been very fun as well as very stressful, specially for commanders in Eternal.

@God – I kinda like your way of thinking and honestly, I just prefer to fight GoM cause I don’t like the color green. Though I look at the map and I judge what must be done in each situation and I tell you, whenever AR attacks me, I’ll go back and attack them.

I dunno about your borderlands cause I haven’t been there all weekend long. But I’m sure I saw your guys in ours.

BTW, I love fighting SoS and CRFT. If you guys ever invite me to come to your TS for a chat, I’d love to mean you in voice. Maybe we can make GoM even more suspicious that we have an alliance. LOL

Though I have to tell you one thing – we love trashing you guys while we play, and that likely won’t change.

DR will move up a tier eventually. They are THAT large. They field numbers during all hours nowadays. There’s a reason why they are blowing up their competition for the last 3 weeks. They are HUGE in numbers now. Give them 2 to 4 weeks with blowout scores like they’ve had and you will see them soon.

Devona’s Rest will move up simply because ET or HoD will fall down to Tier 8 and bump them up.

And until both those servers settle on a Tier , who wins these next 2 weeks wont’ matter much, except to determine who gets bumped up to the next tier.

-K

Lightsbane.9012:

sorry, but i have to ask, did BP get a mass amount of world transfers this week? or is it just weekend madness? it’s just weird that Bp has enough to defend SM AND capture things on other BL’s. maybe i’m too used to GOM being outmanned.

Remember something about last week. Our biggest numbers guild SBZY, took the week off. CORE took the week off. Alot of other guys took breaks, many came back this week refreshed and they are showing it. We have some tireless commanders like myself playing lots of hours.

i can say had a good Laugh in EB with the BP ppl wall pop down and up and down had me laughing i had to make you guys work by repairing.