Guild Wars 2

Draygo.9473:

And the leaked patch notes were true.

Alas they were! I’m 37% surprised.

yep, so much for all the conspriracy theorists. You guys are wrong again.

nothing.7941:

yep, so much for all the conspriracy theorists. You guys are wrong again.

Hardly anyone thought “conspiracy.” People were thinking “fake” or “troll.”

Oh wow they are exact

Hickeroar.9734:

nothing.7941:

yep, so much for all the conspriracy theorists. You guys are wrong again.

Hardly anyone thought “conspiracy.” People were thinking “fake” or “troll.”

I thought it was a conspiracy…to destroy the Ranger class.

And I was right!

Thrumdi.9216:

Hickeroar.9734:

nothing.7941:

yep, so much for all the conspriracy theorists. You guys are wrong again.

Hardly anyone thought “conspiracy.” People were thinking “fake” or “troll.”

I thought it was a conspiracy…to destroy the Ranger class.

And I was right!

Well i am hearing complaints from Mesmers as well about how phan. spec is destroyed.

As for eles, the nerfs arent so bad. Just very minor. but too early to say

Battering Ram.
Battering Ram.

Fuzzion.2504:

Well i am hearing complaints from Mesmers as well about how phan. spec is destroyed.

As for eles, the nerfs arent so bad. Just very minor. but too early to say

Mesmers had ~15 skills nerfed for about 80% of their builds. Including some really, really dumb ones (like nerfing scepter, of all things).

With the gutting of confusion, most mesmers feel there are now two viable builds
20/20/0/0/30 or
0/20/20/0/30
Pick one.

As for ele’s, they’re used to nerfs, stealth nerfs, and anet generally just breaking everything.

And, of course, guardians receive nothing but buffs. Because why the hell not.

Lina.9640:

Fuzzion.2504:

Well i am hearing complaints from Mesmers as well about how phan. spec is destroyed.

As for eles, the nerfs arent so bad. Just very minor. but too early to say

Mesmers had ~15 skills nerfed for about 80% of their builds. Including some really, really dumb ones (like nerfing scepter, of all things).

With the gutting of confusion, most mesmers feel there are now two viable builds
20/20/0/0/30 or
0/20/20/0/30
Pick one.

As for ele’s, they’re used to nerfs, stealth nerfs, and anet generally just breaking everything.

And, of course, guardians receive nothing but buffs. Because why the hell not.

LOL that was hilarious. Especially the guardian comment. Me thinks Anet developers primarily play thief and guardian

Engineers finally got a buff!!! You guys know who we are right? Ya? Rocket boots!!!

Fuzzion.2504:

LOL that was hilarious. Especially the guardian comment. Me thinks Anet developers primarily play thief and guardian

Well they sure as kitten aren’t using shortbow as a thief anymore.

Elementalists often had more effective stun breakers on tap than just about any other class. The SB was icing on an already powerful cake for thieves which were never meant to be a ranged class and they did get some nice buffs like steal time reduced. Rangers did take one for the team so to speak since they already had limited effective build options. Mesmers got pinched but are still left with a couple highly effective builds and utility out the waazoo.

I applaud the attempt to elevate most unused skills, but have to decry some of the debufs and ultimately failing to elevate a lot of those skills to a usable level. My suggestion in the future is stop with most nerfs until the under performing skills/traits are buffed. Players want more effective options not more less effective options.

Fuzzion.2504:

Lina.9640:

Fuzzion.2504:

Well i am hearing complaints from Mesmers as well about how phan. spec is destroyed.

As for eles, the nerfs arent so bad. Just very minor. but too early to say

Mesmers had ~15 skills nerfed for about 80% of their builds. Including some really, really dumb ones (like nerfing scepter, of all things).

With the gutting of confusion, most mesmers feel there are now two viable builds
20/20/0/0/30 or
0/20/20/0/30
Pick one.

As for ele’s, they’re used to nerfs, stealth nerfs, and anet generally just breaking everything.

And, of course, guardians receive nothing but buffs. Because why the hell not.

LOL that was hilarious. Especially the guardian comment. Me thinks Anet developers primarily play thief and guardian

I love guardian buffs because my main is a guardian. :-P

That said, I have a ranger, ele, and mesmer otherwise. I’m getting sick of the endless nerfs. I really have to wonder how much they actually play the game -AT ALL-.

Also: Buffing thieves? Like……really? What in the world made them think Thieves needed a buff? I mean….like…what…I don’t even. People have been calling for Thief NERFS for months. And how does ANet respond? With buffs.

/facepalm

Straegen.2938:

Elementalists often had more effective stun breakers on tap than just about any other class.

They still have just as many…. The number of stunbreaks wasn’t changed, just the skills they were on.

Hickeroar.9734:

Also: Buffing thieves? Like……really? What in the world made them think Thieves needed a buff? I mean….like…what…I don’t even. People have been calling for Thief NERFS for months. And how does ANet respond? With buffs.

So because people call for nerfs for months, that should determine ANet’s course of action?

In that case I will post every day asking to nerf Protection and Retaliation on Guardians.

Additionally, Thief has been nerfed in some fashion with almost every patch since launch. Just take a look at Shortbow…

Xirin.8593:

Hickeroar.9734:

Also: Buffing thieves? Like……really? What in the world made them think Thieves needed a buff? I mean….like…what…I don’t even. People have been calling for Thief NERFS for months. And how does ANet respond? With buffs.

So because people call for nerfs for months, that should determine ANet’s course of action?

In that case I will post every day asking to nerf Protection and Retaliation on Guardians.

Additionally, Thief has been nerfed in some fashion with almost every patch since launch. Just take a look at Shortbow…

Play a ranger and feel the Anet love. Thieves got nothing on us.

Xirin.8593:

Hickeroar.9734:

Also: Buffing thieves? Like……really? What in the world made them think Thieves needed a buff? I mean….like…what…I don’t even. People have been calling for Thief NERFS for months. And how does ANet respond? With buffs.

So because people call for nerfs for months, that should determine ANet’s course of action?

In that case I will post every day asking to nerf Protection and Retaliation on Guardians.

Additionally, Thief has been nerfed in some fashion with almost every patch since launch. Just take a look at Shortbow…

They buffed a class that the vast majority of people simply can’t beat in a 1v1 scenario. That’s nonsensical.

It’d be one thing if skill-level were involved in most thieves winning 1v1s, but typically it’s got nothing to do with skill, and everything to do with the fact that the way the class is built is utterly borked in its favor. A noob can get in there hammering one or two keys, and if things go badly, they can hammer a third key and completely escape to heal back up….then come back and do it again.

I can respect that certain classes, when operated by sufficiently skilled players, are nearly unbeatable, but this thief thing has nothing to do with “sufficiently skilled players.” This has everything to do with “Thieves are an unbalanced mess.”

And frankly…who cares about shortbow on thief, considering 95% of thieves I’ve encountered never touch the thing except for blast finishers.

They didn’t buff thieves…
sword builds are much weaker with that huge hit to shadow return.

Hickeroar.9734:

They buffed a class that the vast majority of people simply can’t beat in a 1v1 scenario. That’s nonsensical.
….

The vast majority of players are terrible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution

Also, you just described Mesmers, D/D Eles, the old BM Rangers, etc. Strong 1v1 builds/classes. Surprise, these beat 1) bad players and 2) players not running 1v1 builds.

QQ like this is what resulted in the Confusion nerf, the Retaliation nerf, the creation of anti-Stealth traps, etc. Maybe one day people will stop whining that their terrible build or keyboard-turning/skill-mouse-clicking isn’t enough to beat good 1v1 players running 1v1 builds.

Draygo.9473:

They didn’t buff thieves…
sword builds are much weaker with that huge hit to shadow return.

They did buff and debuff. The changes to steal are a fairly substantial upgrade to the skill. There are also a few other worthwhile changes. Admittedly the SB change was a big hit but it wasn’t all bad news.