Guild Wars 2

VOLKON.1290:

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

However, I would argue that your screenshot does not reflect the bulk of the discussion that we cover in these threads, which seem to consist mainly of coverage, timezones, numbers and guild, player and server behaviours. All of this is opinion based.

In my view the only facts are the score updates. Feel free to disagree, you have the right to express your opinion.

I disagree with some of this too. I can say that during a fight last night where a poster accused the our guild of having an 80 man zerg, we only actually had 22 of us online in W3 with 10 extras by taking having everyone stack, take a supply info, open up the guild interface, and take a screenshot. Sorry… our ‘80’ man zerg was actually 32.

To be fair, Covenn, I did say you were mixed with others. It’s just your guild tag that stood out numerically as the plurality.

Believe it or not, that wasn’t directed at your post in any way. It was just a hypothetical example.

Kreen.3925:

oh come on, you have heard the term “pot, kettle black” yes?

of course, incorrect conclusions might work both ways surely.

Sure I have, but it isn’t applicable in this specific case. I also realize that incorrect conclusions happen frequently, I was just pointing it because this particular instance was quite ‘out there’.

covenn.7165:

VOLKON.1290:

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

However, I would argue that your screenshot does not reflect the bulk of the discussion that we cover in these threads, which seem to consist mainly of coverage, timezones, numbers and guild, player and server behaviours. All of this is opinion based.

In my view the only facts are the score updates. Feel free to disagree, you have the right to express your opinion.

I disagree with some of this too. I can say that during a fight last night where a poster accused the our guild of having an 80 man zerg, we only actually had 22 of us online in W3 with 10 extras by taking having everyone stack, take a supply info, open up the guild interface, and take a screenshot. Sorry… our ‘80’ man zerg was actually 32.

To be fair, Covenn, I did say you were mixed with others. It’s just your guild tag that stood out numerically as the plurality.

Believe it or not, that wasn’t directed at your post in any way. It was just a hypothetical example.

Aw, I thought we went full circle to the drunk naked PvP night. Dang.

jojojoon.8607:

Azure.8412:

jojojoon.8607:

scootshoot.6583:

Kreen.3925:

LetoII.3782:

Zen.8497:

I believe the guilds that won’t even try is because they know better and expect to be wiped.
Regarding Foo, it is obvious they didn’t even expected the outcome or they might have not accepted, as soon the ball was already rolling it would have been hard for them to honorably back away from these fights even if they wanted.

I work really early hours (4am est) so on the weekends I get to see FoO in action often and I can say, without reservation, they are more than a zerg. Yes, they have huge numbers. Yes, as any large guild of that size, skill level varies. Same as in any large western guild.

However, when it comes to discipline and organization, sheer points producing potential, I think they kick NA’s butt. When’s the last time you saw a group from NA do sentry duty at a camp? Sure maybe a person will watch a door, maybe player will patrol a yaks route. FoO will set up a 5 man in every camp with a response team ready to be there in 30 seconds. Heck they even have a sentry or two on each yak. Basically, a solo hunter like me can’t do jack but gank the occasional solo on their way to doing something productive and responsible. Basically, they’re an army and we’re just roaming barbarians. Any NA guild could learn a thing or two. Sure, in a wild fight we beat em.. But I think taking a keep from them would be miserable.
What they do, standing bored at an objective, takes pride. They ENJOY it, because it’s winning. And I do believe that pride would also require them to keep coming back, even if they lose, until they do beat us.
I guess we’ll find out Sunday, eh?

Right now these tactics are one of the major reasons JQ is winning. Sure we make full use of our stronger timezones and appear to have some better numbers at times as well but we defend and upgrade our stuff better than the other two servers and so hold onto to points for longer. Each timezone tries to hand off something for the previous timezone to work with.

Heh. Your statement above still comes down to numbers advantage. More eyes and ears as scouts on the road thus covering more land area. Extra bodies to run supplies, upgrades etc.

Did you miss last weeks reset night? Up until 4am all 3 servers were neck and neck as every NA player packed the queues for each. Was a less then 2k difference when I went to bed. Woke up the following morning around 11am central to see the lead balloon to 12k JQ advantage, lol. How do you think this happened? From your Asian crew defending and upgrading? haha.

Anyhoo, we had similar advantage when we were on T2 and the games grew stale fast pounding on doors with little resistance so much prefer having the greater number of opponents to go against so keep those bandwagon transfers coming JQ!

You went to sleep early, but many wvw players who enjoy the game do not sleep on their normal hours on a Friday/Saturday. I personally played until almost 4am (of course not 11 straight hours).

One of the points Kreen makes that probably isn’t happening on SOR is that, on JQ, the players from the different time zones try to help each other out by doing the little things like escorting yaks to upgrade to pass on next time zone, managing the hours to try to log in during the server’s weaker coverage hours, etc.

At least from what I have seen on the forum, SOR does their normal thing during their normal hours and then points the finger at their weaker time zone players and blames them for the reason why they’re losing. I’ve read some SOR players calling their other time zones “disorganized” or trying to kick their other time zone players out of their server just to give them a better chance of winning instead of actually trying to help them out.

I can assure you our NA do try their best to help our weaker timezones. I dont know where you got that from.

You probably don’t follow the forum all that much. There were some NA players from SOR who wanted to kick all non-NA players from NA servers just so they will have a better chance at winning. There was a huge discussion about it a few days ago.

It wasnt a huge discussion…. it was one player from SOR who said that….then the trolls jumped on it etc.

Laundry.5120:

Might want to edit that to…“flippin SoR’s outmanned 18 person defense with 6 golems”.

I think JQ might need the needle of free transfers off it’s bloat :p.

So first the excuse is JQ only wins due to FoO and all of there excellent work, now the use of golems is frowned upon? I play JQ NA almost every night and yes there are nights that are tough but there are also nights where we dominate which in my case playing with Strike Force is more common. Cant you just accept that JQ NA exist and does as much work as every other NA group? Less bashing and more WvWing, cant complain about being outmanned when a quarter of the server is here ripping on each other. I think the three servers need to bake out Garrison and chill one night and stay away from forum trolls for a bit. Happy Huntings tonight all!

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

I still believe we (JQ) have the best NA, we may not always show it but we keep us in the game and do not get completely wiped out. NA is very important but I think people are starting to get towards the attitude or thought process of. NA time is only time that matters, may just be me but thats what I notice alot of lately.

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

As far as fabricated nonsense well, this is a gaming forum, open your eyes and look around. Hey, read some of your own posts.

See, this is where you and I may differ. Fabrication is too obvious and easy to see through.

I avoid fabricating anything on purpose and stick to legitimacy as a golden rule.

Now I know you are joking

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

I still think we are the superior NA but I do the bragging on the borderlands instead of the forum. Was a simple message trying to prevent trolling, way to be a typical JQ basher, good luck with the tick this week, hope the intensity remains between the three as the week ends

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

However, I would argue that your screenshot does not reflect the bulk of the discussion that we cover in these threads, which seem to consist mainly of coverage, timezones, numbers and guild, player and server behaviours. All of this is opinion based.

In my view the only facts are the score updates. Feel free to disagree, you have the right to express your opinion.

I disagree with some of this too. I can say that during a fight last night where a poster accused the our guild of having an 80 man zerg, we only actually had 22 of us online in W3 with 10 extras by taking having everyone stack, take a supply info, open up the guild interface, and take a screenshot. Sorry… our ‘80’ man zerg was actually 32.

Edit: But yes I do agree that a lot of discussion here is perception and opinion based

I am pleased you have decided to exercise your right. Of course, in your example there are possible flaws such that both parties might believe their perception is reality. Do you need me to walk through those with you or can you manage that youself?

As I said to the other poster, in the spirit of helpfulness that is evident throughout this thread I am happy to proivde aid here if required.

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

oh come on, you have heard the term “pot, kettle black” yes?

of course, incorrect conclusions might work both ways surely.

Sure I have, but it isn’t applicable in this specific case. I also realize that incorrect conclusions happen frequently, I was just pointing it because this particular instance was quite ‘out there’.

well,, one persons “quite out there” is another persons original thought although in this particular case I am willing to concede that it was a hook. Of course we both know that anyway so it seems silly for me to be explicit about it.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

Who is this JQ you speak of? I have gone through this thread and can’t see any poster named JQ. Care to provide me a link, maybe its in another thread.

Kreen.3925:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

Who is this JQ you speak of? I have gone through this thread and can’t see any poster named JQ. Care to provide me a link, maybe its in another thread.

You just had two people do it…

I just wish JQ and BG had some decent Havoc groups. The ones I’ve ran across just die too easily.

Team JQ is still accepting all challengers for the T1 title. You can fight us zerg v zerg, gvg, 5v5, 1v1, yak vs yak, smack vs smack 24/7 7 days a week, we are available for your wvw pleasure.

Our team record of gold medals in T1 versus our current opponents:

1. Jade Quarry 13
2. Black Gate 1
3. Sanctum of Rall 0

Please note we do know the majority of the whine posts come from #3 and not the #2 server who have actually defeated us in T1 before.

Any need for further discussion?

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

You’re hilarious! No really, keep going…. go on… Keep going…this is good.

Captain.5028:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

I still think we are the superior NA but I do the bragging on the borderlands instead of the forum. Was a simple message trying to prevent trolling, way to be a typical JQ basher, good luck with the tick this week, hope the intensity remains between the three as the week ends

SoR does the bragging throughout the week when we lead during NA 90% of the time. Anyone with an objective eye can tell you SoR has a much superior NA timezone than JQ does. I do however enjoy your confidence, even though it is not well founded.

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

60% of the time it works all the time!

ROFL

Now I got soda on my monitor =(

Burl.9567:

Kreen.3925:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

Who is this JQ you speak of? I have gone through this thread and can’t see any poster named JQ. Care to provide me a link, maybe its in another thread.

You just had two people do it…

What? there are two people sporting a JQ GW2 account tag? How is that even possible? Ah, maybe you mean they had different 4 digit number extensions. That would be why you thought it was two separate people rather than 1.

My eyesight is pretty good but I am still having a problem finding even one person named JQ.XXXX

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

The PPT advantage when FOO is on is greater than the PPT advantage when NA is on. We seriously have to go over this people? We all know why.

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

Be nice to him. Maths is not his strong point, he has been queried on his mathematical assertions before and been found wanting. We all have weaknesses. Mine is alcohol.

Ignorance, self imposed ignorance, score posturing, chest thumping, denial and bravado. All we need to round this T1 thread out is about a dozen more posts about 2v1, and we’ll be good to go!

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

You do realize that timezones are broken up into 4 not 2?

Each timezone is around 6 hours long not 12 hours

NA-Oceanic-Asian-Europe. You see how it makes up a 24 hour day?

However if you want to believe only two timezones exist in the world go ahead.

Nakoor.1980:

I just wish JQ and BG had some decent Havoc groups. The ones I’ve ran across just die too easily.

We have plenty of decent havoc groups. The good ones just avoid the 40 man TW blob, so you never see us.

Burl.9567:

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

The PPT advantage when FOO is on is greater than the PPT advantage when NA is on. We seriously have to go over this people? We all know why.

Actually we do have to go over this all the time. Do you pay attention to these threads? Posters on all three servers continue to post their opinions and perceptions on this very topic over and over and over again. Many paint their opinions in factual colours but only Anet know the truth and they are not telling despite repeated requests.

There you go, I am doing it now. How did I get sucked into the cesspool and it is possible for me to get out?

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Boulderbolg.3460:

Nakoor.1980:

I just wish JQ and BG had some decent Havoc groups. The ones I’ve ran across just die too easily.

We have plenty of decent havoc groups. The good ones just avoid the 40 man TW blob, so you never see us.

TW does have its own havoc groups out at times, maybe not as much as we would like but when we do it seems you need at least 10+ to kill 4 of us. : )

Mance.5640:

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Its more like leading for around 6 hours during NA primetime like I said we do 90% of the time. Considering JQ ticks as low as 150 ppt during NA times most nights implies that your NA crew is very weak. Nice try though.

Mance.5640:

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Yes why must you use lebron logic against everyone! I mean everyone knows that Lebron is better than MJ can’t you tell by how many ring’s each has!!

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Mance.5640:

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Its more like leading for around 6 hours during NA primetime like I said we do 90% of the time. Considering JQ ticks as low as 150 ppt during NA times most nights implies that your NA crew is very weak. Nice try though.

You do realize during NA prime when it matters we had 300+ ppt (weekends) but when you don’t really care too much you do stuff like let SoR run around fighting BG while sitting back watching your 40k lead turn into a 38k lead (which will go right back up soon as the blob of SoR goes to sleep and we can cast skills again)

JQ is winning. All arguments are invalid.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Mance.5640:

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Its more like leading for around 6 hours during NA primetime like I said we do 90% of the time. Considering JQ ticks as low as 150 ppt during NA times most nights implies that your NA crew is very weak. Nice try though.

Wait a minute…so you lead 90% of the time during 50% of NA times? So even by SoR math, that puts JQ ahead about 60% of the time in NA times.

That sounds about right, thanks for finally clearing that up for everyone. This helps to explain that 40k gap as well.

Thanks.

Nakoor.1980:

Boulderbolg.3460:

Nakoor.1980:

I just wish JQ and BG had some decent Havoc groups. The ones I’ve ran across just die too easily.

We have plenty of decent havoc groups. The good ones just avoid the 40 man TW blob, so you never see us.

TW does have its own havoc groups out at times, maybe not as much as we would like but when we do it seems you need at least 10+ to kill 4 of us. : )

PLEASE field your havoc groups more next week during NA PST evenings! I’ve got a good fraps of us 7v20 against Fire recently that I hope to post up in a week or two, and I’d love to get some TW footage in there! Look for the RIOT tag.

Score update brought to you by Feisty:

Nuked.2360:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Mance.5640:

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Its more like leading for around 6 hours during NA primetime like I said we do 90% of the time. Considering JQ ticks as low as 150 ppt during NA times most nights implies that your NA crew is very weak. Nice try though.

You do realize during NA prime when it matters we had 300+ ppt (weekends) but when you don’t really care too much you do stuff like let SoR run around fighting BG while sitting back watching your 40k lead turn into a 38k lead (which will go right back up soon as the blob of SoR goes to sleep and we can cast skills again)

I love the our NA crew doesn’t try during the week but every other timezone tries for some strange reason excuse from JQ. Gives me tingles inside knowing you guys need an excuse to justify your horrible NA ppt during the week.

Smokey we are really sorry you aren’t a threat to JQ yet. Stand in line, we’ll get to you. Tell your weekend NA people not to be down by 30k come Monday, so we can motivate more people to come wvw the other 5 days of the match.

Deadlyfrost.9142:

JQ is winning. All arguments are invalid.

Well, it all depends on your frame of reference and what each party intends to gain from any argument. I think we can all agree that there are many different frames of reference here and its clear there are many different agendas that go beyond the “who is winning” fact. The only fact present unless Covenn still volunteers to post his screenshot with the game crediting him with 1K kills in 2.13456 hours.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Nuked.2360:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Mance.5640:

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Its more like leading for around 6 hours during NA primetime like I said we do 90% of the time. Considering JQ ticks as low as 150 ppt during NA times most nights implies that your NA crew is very weak. Nice try though.

You do realize during NA prime when it matters we had 300+ ppt (weekends) but when you don’t really care too much you do stuff like let SoR run around fighting BG while sitting back watching your 40k lead turn into a 38k lead (which will go right back up soon as the blob of SoR goes to sleep and we can cast skills again)

I love the our NA crew doesn’t try during the week but every other timezone tries for some strange reason excuse from JQ. Gives me tingles inside knowing you guys need an excuse to justify your horrible NA ppt during the week.

So about that our ppt is horrible most nights we have one or two maps rocking outmanned. Sorry we aren’t stacked we just go out and have fun. If you ask anyone in JQ we don’t care for winning we care about having fun and knowing each team has our back. It’s one of the biggest thing’s for us.

Mance.5640:

Smokey we are really sorry you aren’t a threat to JQ yet. Stand in line, we’ll get to you. Tell your weekend NA people not to be down by 30k come Monday, so we can motivate more people to come wvw the other 5 days of the match.

He’s from choo man all they do is blob. I have literally never seen a choo group smaller than 25.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Mance.5640:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Mance.5640:

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Its more like leading for around 6 hours during NA primetime like I said we do 90% of the time. Considering JQ ticks as low as 150 ppt during NA times most nights implies that your NA crew is very weak. Nice try though.

Wait a minute…so you lead 90% of the time during 50% of NA times? So even by SoR math, that puts JQ ahead about 60% of the time in NA times.

That sounds about right, thanks for finally clearing that up for everyone. This helps to explain that 40k gap as well.

Thanks.

This coming from someone who thinks NA timezone lasts for 12 hours throughout the day hahahaha. Oh boy you might want to start educating yourself on how timezones work.

NA playtimes start for most depending on age from 3pm eastern to around 4am eastern. We are talking gamers here. 1a.m.ish pst for example, for my guild when we log off, is about 3a.m. eastern. That’s about 10 to 13ish hours, aka half the day your average NA gamer could be found online.

I just wanted to say awesome fights last night SOR and BG at lowlands in EB. I thought we were going to lose it quite a few times, but managed to hang on at least while I was still on. Some of the most fun I have had in quite sometime other then the miserable skill lag.

On a side note, why so many bloody forum warriors? No one congratulates anyone anymore. There’s always a laundry list of excuses of why one side is winning or losing and such a high level of animosity towards the other servers. With that sad I would like to give a big /salute to the folks in RIOT. Top notch group of players. Also to Homie, you are on kitten guardian.

Nakoor.1980:

Kreen.3925:

Nakoor.1980:

Burl.9567:

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

The PPT advantage when FOO is on is greater than the PPT advantage when NA is on. We seriously have to go over this people? We all know why.

The post that JQ make are about the same quality as their players. I for one am not surprised.

I always definitions and measurements of quality very interesting. I really don’t know what your definition and measurement criteria might be of course. Please feel free to share those with us so we can discuss the merits of your assertion.

I believe if I shared my view it would be taken in a negative way. Lets just say that at times I wonder if T8 players put up a better fight. : )

This is a t1 thread full of trolls so I fully understand your recitence.

Of course, unless you are brave enough (good word?) to define both your measure and definition of quality then please do not be surprised if your assertion is smiled at with mild amusement and not much beyond that. Maybe thats all you hoped to achieve and if so, congratulations on a job well done.

You do appreciate of course that many people on every server have this perception about particular opponents?

I am sure that individual opponents at T8 are just as skilled as those at T1. I would never think otherwise. You are of course entitled to think different. The reason that a server finds itself in T1 compared to T8 has nothing to do with individual skill level.

Given how much discourse there has been on that topic I am surprised you still believe that but hey, its a free world, or it was last time I looked out of my window.
Isn’t preception a wonderful blanket.

Meurto.8520:

On a side note, why so many bloody forum warriors? No one congratulates anyone anymore. There’s always a laundry list of excuses of why one side is winning or losing and such a high level of animosity towards the other servers. With that sad I would like to give a big /salute to the folks in RIOT. Top notch group of players. Also to Homie, you are on kitten guardian.

Thanks, Meurto.

wish.3102:

Amroth.2170:

Great fights last night on JQ BL!

RIOT had our five man roaming squad and we ended up running along with Pro’s five man after capping the west supply camp. We happened on 8-10 JQ at the sentry below Keep who immediately ran from us and got strung out. Easy pickings. Then when we looked down into the quarry supply camp we saw a group of SoR and a group of JQ, each about 6-7 strong, standing on opposite ends of the camp with a bunch of AOE circles in between them. Ran down and rolled the JQ group whilst SoR stood by. Once we were finished with JQ we wiped the SoR group. I guess you guys were waiting for JQ to soften us up a bit? Anyway, lots of fun. Props to Pro and props to JQ and SoR for not calling in an airstrike whenever we show up

There were a lot of good small group fights last night. Hope that trend continues with small havoc groups coming up on one another. Nothing worse than capping a supply camp and having the enemy server exercise their nuclear option on you, rolling you with three or four times your groups number.

This is a funny post, you talk about killing groups smaller than you repeatedly, then say youre glad you didnt run into a group larger than yours because you would of died.

We do usually run with a “if its red its dead” policy. Sorry if we zerged you with our 5-10 man. This particular fight we were out numbered by both JQ and SoR independently of each other.

Nuked.2360:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Nuked.2360:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Mance.5640:

We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.

You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.

However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.

Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.

Anything else?

Its more like leading for around 6 hours during NA primetime like I said we do 90% of the time. Considering JQ ticks as low as 150 ppt during NA times most nights implies that your NA crew is very weak. Nice try though.

You do realize during NA prime when it matters we had 300+ ppt (weekends) but when you don’t really care too much you do stuff like let SoR run around fighting BG while sitting back watching your 40k lead turn into a 38k lead (which will go right back up soon as the blob of SoR goes to sleep and we can cast skills again)

I love the our NA crew doesn’t try during the week but every other timezone tries for some strange reason excuse from JQ. Gives me tingles inside knowing you guys need an excuse to justify your horrible NA ppt during the week.

So about that our ppt is horrible most nights we have one or two maps rocking outmanned. Sorry we aren’t stacked we just go out and have fun. If you ask anyone in JQ we don’t care for winning we care about having fun and knowing each team has our back. It’s one of the biggest thing’s for us.

Ok so being outmanned on two maps during NA primetime means you guys have a superior NA time then SoR? So you are basically just basing JQ’s whole NA primetime during the weekend when everyone is within 2k of each other before SoR’s NA signs off? Seems like you are only basing your assumptions off when JQ does best and not when you guys do bad.

Smokey, has your team managed to get a win in T1 yet?

I think we really all could be friends. It’s just that darn scoreboard. It’s keeping us apart…

In accordance to the forums, today’s bible.… forum reading.

I, Jed of Teh Bacca, am but a mere shadow in the footsteps of the almighty SoR and BG. Thou shalt have all 2v1’s appointed toward JQ! I will continue to have all actions done in zerg format and continue to suck at havoc work, when attempting to play on a low scale of combat, for I do not heft.

Thank you, thank you, that shall conclude today’s bible... forum reading