Guild Wars 2

Kovu.7560:

So someone asks why the Oceanic crew hangs around DB while our NA is weak and they have less competition.

The NA crew answers, they can’t accept that answer.
Someone from another server who knows what she’s talking about answers, they can’t accept that answer.
Someone posts a video with with an Oceanic response, they can’t accept that answer.
An Oceanic posts in this topic, they can’t accept that answer.

Holy flamin’ hell, get over it.

On a sidenote, Maguuma zerg pvd’d two of our fully upgraded keeps with Golems earlier, one owned by my guild with buffs. Should I kitten about it? At least Yaks are actually fighting for Bay. =)

~ Kovu

I didn’t see the video, because I don’t care. But NA and Eva did not answer the question.

And you are already crying about it so please continue.

Evalana.5480:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Kovu.7560:

So someone asks why the Oceanic crew hangs around DB while our NA is weak and they have less competition.

The NA crew answers, they can’t accept that answer.
Someone from another server who knows what she’s talking about answers, they can’t accept that answer.
Someone posts a video with with an Oceanic response, they can’t accept that answer.
An Oceanic posts in this topic, they can’t accept that answer.

Holy flamin’ hell, get over it.

On a sidenote, Maguuma zerg pvd’d two of our fully upgraded keeps with Golems earlier, one owned by my guild with buffs. Should I kitten about it? At least Yaks are actually fighting for Bay. =)

~ Kovu

I didn’t see the video, because I don’t care. But NA and Eva did not answer the question.

And you are already crying about it so please continue.

I don’t get it …. you ask a question – the video answers the question but you didn’t watch it because you don’t care?

My head hurts.

If you were able to properly follow and read you’d see I’m not the one asking it.

Fronting going on itt

Evalana.5480:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Evalana.5480:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Kovu.7560:

So someone asks why the Oceanic crew hangs around DB while our NA is weak and they have less competition.

The NA crew answers, they can’t accept that answer.
Someone from another server who knows what she’s talking about answers, they can’t accept that answer.
Someone posts a video with with an Oceanic response, they can’t accept that answer.
An Oceanic posts in this topic, they can’t accept that answer.

Holy flamin’ hell, get over it.

On a sidenote, Maguuma zerg pvd’d two of our fully upgraded keeps with Golems earlier, one owned by my guild with buffs. Should I kitten about it? At least Yaks are actually fighting for Bay. =)

~ Kovu

I didn’t see the video, because I don’t care. But NA and Eva did not answer the question.

And you are already crying about it so please continue.

I don’t get it …. you ask a question – the video answers the question but you didn’t watch it because you don’t care?

My head hurts.

If you were able to properly follow and read you’d see I’m not the one asking it.

Right, well, all the same, you seem to be very persistent in getting the ‘answer’.

A real, accruate answer from the source is better than NA guessing or you completely misunderstanding it and going on about us “dissing” them. Someone asks an honest question and it just turns into chest thumping and DB being defensive, and it’s not even from the people being asked.

The video posted was called “NNK PvDoor” and was a sped-up video of them attacking nothing but gates for 6 minutes. It didn’t answer the “why,” it only showed us what was already questioned.

And Eva’s answer doesn’t really count since she left the server because she couldn’t find other people to play with when she was online. Surely if she played with these folks, she’d have a lot of friends.

I missed the actual NNK answer so forgive me

edit: so I guess we’re left with the NA chest-thumper answer about why their friends stick around. One out of four is not great.

kfarb.6732:

The video posted was called “NNK PvDoor” and was a sped-up video of them attacking nothing but gates for 6 minutes. It didn’t answer the “why,” it only showed us what was already questioned.

And Eva’s answer doesn’t really count since she left the server because she couldn’t find other people to play with when she was online. Surely if she played with these folks, she’d have a lot of friends.

I missed the actual NNK answer so forgive me

Look at the comments on the video. I asked them the video poster directly how that could possibly be even fun for them with the suggestion they switch servers to avoid doing the mundane task (of keeping a server afloat singlehandedly).

The good lad told me it was server pride and supporting their mates, which is fair.

kfarb.6732:

The video posted was called “NNK PvDoor” and was a sped-up video of them attacking nothing but gates for 6 minutes. It didn’t answer the “why,” it only showed us what was already questioned.

And Eva’s answer doesn’t really count since she left the server because she couldn’t find other people to play with when she was online. Surely if she played with these folks, she’d have a lot of friends.

I missed the actual NNK answer so forgive me

edit: so I guess we’re left with the NA chest-thumper answer about why their friends stick around. One out of four is not great.

NNK and TFV stay because they have developed a bond and trust with the existing NA guilds and players on this server. They know who they are getting their points for when they fight during their time. We have fought together for a long time, we aren’t just strangers on the same server. In fact, alot of my guild are members of NNK just like EA has some TFV members. If they leave they would know no one on these new servers like moving to a new country. They stay because this is their home. They have been here for so long no where else would be the same. Can you understand that?

I’m pretty sure they have been offered and bribed everything under the sun but still have not moved off. They demonstrate unwavering loyalty to Dragonbrand which is more than can be said for alot of guilds and people on other servers. This is what makes Dragonbrand an amazing server.

Fair enough. God bless.

lani.7431:

kfarb.6732:

The video posted was called “NNK PvDoor” and was a sped-up video of them attacking nothing but gates for 6 minutes. It didn’t answer the “why,” it only showed us what was already questioned.

And Eva’s answer doesn’t really count since she left the server because she couldn’t find other people to play with when she was online. Surely if she played with these folks, she’d have a lot of friends.

I missed the actual NNK answer so forgive me

edit: so I guess we’re left with the NA chest-thumper answer about why their friends stick around. One out of four is not great.

NNK and TFV stay because they have developed a bond and trust with the existing NA guilds and players on this server. They know who they are getting their points for when they fight during their time. We have fought together for a long time, we aren’t just strangers on the same server. In fact, alot of my guild are members of NNK just like EA has some TFV members. If they leave they would know no one on these new servers like moving to a new country. They stay because this is their home. They have been here for so long no where else would be the same. Can you understand that?

I’m pretty sure they have been offered and bribed everything under the sun but still have not moved off. They demonstrate unwavering loyalty to Dragonbrand which is more than can be said for alot of guilds and people on other servers. This is what makes Dragonbrand an amazing server.

+1

Yak’s must be laughing right now. So much entertainment they’re getting from Mags forum warriors.

Just to bring closure, especially as a wake-up call for those who “already know the answer”, here’s a conversation posted on that video:

Random T1/T2 recruiter: You guys should? switch servers. Doesn’t seem fun doing that.
Response: “We can’t leave our NA? time zone mate, We all understand how hard to defend for our serve in that time. Switch servers easy, but we’ll lose more trust and glory. Come to join us, we’ll not leave everybody behind”

Second random T1/T2 recruiter: “You guys would only lose some trust, you have absolutely no glory, respect or honor doing that, and it’s a complete insult. Come to tier 1 or 2, we have? some nice competition for you guys.”
Response: “If we? going to T2? or T1,? It must be with our server Dragonbrand.”

Want more examples? Look at this thread. We have people from all over the DB server jumping in defense of our NNK/TFV friends. Then look at the exchanges you Mags have been having with another ex-Mag, and another Mag PvF champ who jumps servers every few weeks.

You’ll hopefully see why DB community is united and thriving.

Fight Club!
South Yak’s Bend BL, come 1v1!

fight club yaks bl, come play! DB and us mags are already here ;3

Calvin.5380:

lani.7431:

kfarb.6732:

The video posted was called “NNK PvDoor” and was a sped-up video of them attacking nothing but gates for 6 minutes. It didn’t answer the “why,” it only showed us what was already questioned.

And Eva’s answer doesn’t really count since she left the server because she couldn’t find other people to play with when she was online. Surely if she played with these folks, she’d have a lot of friends.

I missed the actual NNK answer so forgive me

edit: so I guess we’re left with the NA chest-thumper answer about why their friends stick around. One out of four is not great.

NNK and TFV stay because they have developed a bond and trust with the existing NA guilds and players on this server. They know who they are getting their points for when they fight during their time. We have fought together for a long time, we aren’t just strangers on the same server. In fact, alot of my guild are members of NNK just like EA has some TFV members. If they leave they would know no one on these new servers like moving to a new country. They stay because this is their home. They have been here for so long no where else would be the same. Can you understand that?

I’m pretty sure they have been offered and bribed everything under the sun but still have not moved off. They demonstrate unwavering loyalty to Dragonbrand which is more than can be said for alot of guilds and people on other servers. This is what makes Dragonbrand an amazing server.

+1

Yak’s must be laughing right now. So much entertainment they’re getting from Mags forum warriors.

Just to bring closure, especially as a wake-up call for those who “already know the answer”, here’s a conversation posted on that video:

Random T1/T2 recruiter: You guys should? switch servers. Doesn’t seem fun doing that.
Response: “We can’t leave our NA? time zone mate, We all understand how hard to defend for our serve in that time. Switch servers easy, but we’ll lose more trust and glory. Come to join us, we’ll not leave everybody behind”

Second random T1/T2 recruiter: “You guys would only lose some trust, you have absolutely no glory, respect or honor doing that, and it’s a complete insult. Come to tier 1 or 2, we have? some nice competition for you guys.”
Response: “If we? going to T2? or T1,? It must be with our server Dragonbrand.”

Want more examples? Look at this thread. We have people from all over the DB server jumping in defense of our NNK/TFV friends. Then look at the exchanges you Mags have been having with another ex-Mag, and another Mag PvF champ who jumps servers every few weeks.

You’ll hopefully see why DB community is united and thriving.

I respected the video poster’s thoughts. I don’t know why you do not get this. I actually respect YB a lot, they complain very little and have a winning attitude despite their flaws in coverage. And I would respect DB if the NA crew were willing to concede that out of the 3 servers in this tier that their NA primetime happens to be the weakest… But, nah, you and some others would rather be forum warriors all the same as Maggies…

And, yeah, I’m going back to BT (not FA as a server [I dont care what server they are on]) because I enjoy what they do, and there’s not one single guild that can offer me what BT does on Mag currently… it’s Gw2 after all, even if W3 changed the GvG aspect of the two games.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

And I would respect DB if the NA crew were willing to concede that out of the 3 servers in this tier that their NA primetime happens to be the weakest… But, nah, you and some others would rather be forum warriors all the same as Maggies…

Huh? Isn’t that implied by saying DB’s primetime isn’t during NA hours?

Well, regardless, I’ll say it for you now; DB has by far the lowest population during NA primetime of the three servers in Tier 3. Yak’s and Maguuma easily beat us during those hours.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Loki.4139:

What is your question?
I cannot speak for the whole guild entirely, but I do talk to a lot of the higher ranked in NNK.

I believe the question is “why NNK stays on Dragonbrand where they do not have competition?”

NNK have no reason to leave Dragonbrand, nor have thought about it as a guild. They love the server and the community as much as someone loves their favorite sports team. We have our troubles here and there and no matter what we will always stay in Dragonbrand.

We do have competition some times here and there, Kaineng and SoS in the passed, we had trouble with them before. And even now with Maguuma sometimes. Just field more people in your server to give us trouble. We do get the competition but not as much.

We are happy in Dragonbrand, we love Dragonbrand and its players.

Loki.4139:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Loki.4139:

What is your question?
I cannot speak for the whole guild entirely, but I do talk to a lot of the higher ranked in NNK.

I believe the question is “why NNK stays on Dragonbrand where they do not have competition?”

NNK have no reason to leave Dragonbrand, nor have thought about it as a guild. They love the server and the community as much as someone loves their favorite sports team. We have our troubles here and there and no matter what we will always stay in Dragonbrand.

We do have competition some times here and there, Kaineng and SoS in the passed, we had trouble with them before. And even now with Maguuma sometimes. Just field more people in your server to give us trouble. We do get the competition but not as much.

We are happy in Dragonbrand, we love Dragonbrand and its players.

That all sounds pretty, but why is a NA server bragging that it’s got a timezone counter to typical NA player hours? The biggest thing people are complaining about is the pure stupidity that superiority in one timezone causes, which could really be solved by merging EU and US servers together

Yak’s Bend setting up siege at the orb guards for my 7 man group holding their north for 40m . Nothing spectacular but we decided as a group it was cheap to be able to build back there. I also will point out it didn’t work, well until 20 others came from the portal.
Well played yak’s bend lol.

I just wanted to bring the YB into the conversation, and this seemed the best way to go about it.

Richard Nixon.6573:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

And I would respect DB if the NA crew were willing to concede that out of the 3 servers in this tier that their NA primetime happens to be the weakest… But, nah, you and some others would rather be forum warriors all the same as Maggies…

Huh? Isn’t that implied by saying DB’s primetime isn’t during NA hours?

Well, regardless, I’ll say it for you now; DB has by far the lowest population during NA primetime of the three servers in Tier 3. Yak’s and Maguuma easily beat us during those hours.

I’m speaking of NA primetime, not a server’s primetime. You know when the NA crew of any server is at its peak population per night.

I fully understand NNK and DB. And more power to you guys for it. I kinda like the sacrifice NNK makes to stay on DB. I personally am not willing to make the same kind of sacrifice (my personal fun) for Maguuma, even though I enjoy and like a lot of the guys on Maguuma.

IcerXx.3670:

Loki.4139:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Loki.4139:

What is your question?
I cannot speak for the whole guild entirely, but I do talk to a lot of the higher ranked in NNK.

I believe the question is “why NNK stays on Dragonbrand where they do not have competition?”

NNK have no reason to leave Dragonbrand, nor have thought about it as a guild. They love the server and the community as much as someone loves their favorite sports team. We have our troubles here and there and no matter what we will always stay in Dragonbrand.

We do have competition some times here and there, Kaineng and SoS in the passed, we had trouble with them before. And even now with Maguuma sometimes. Just field more people in your server to give us trouble. We do get the competition but not as much.

We are happy in Dragonbrand, we love Dragonbrand and its players.

That all sounds pretty, but why is a NA server bragging that it’s got a timezone counter to typical NA player hours? The biggest thing people are complaining about is the pure stupidity that superiority in one timezone causes, which could really be solved by merging EU and US servers together

You wouldn’t want an EU and US server merge mate. That would make queues thoroughly unbearable.

A lot of DB player seem really sensitive about their SEA presence. They get defensive, aggressive, and accuse others of trolling. It’s really not necessary and kind of disrupts the civility that these forums are meant to inspire.

IcerXx.3670:

Loki.4139:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Loki.4139:

What is your question?
I cannot speak for the whole guild entirely, but I do talk to a lot of the higher ranked in NNK.

I believe the question is “why NNK stays on Dragonbrand where they do not have competition?”

NNK have no reason to leave Dragonbrand, nor have thought about it as a guild. They love the server and the community as much as someone loves their favorite sports team. We have our troubles here and there and no matter what we will always stay in Dragonbrand.

We do have competition some times here and there, Kaineng and SoS in the passed, we had trouble with them before. And even now with Maguuma sometimes. Just field more people in your server to give us trouble. We do get the competition but not as much.

We are happy in Dragonbrand, we love Dragonbrand and its players.

That all sounds pretty, but why is a NA server bragging that it’s got a timezone counter to typical NA player hours? The biggest thing people are complaining about is the pure stupidity that superiority in one timezone causes, which could really be solved by merging EU and US servers together

I do not know, we don’t have the best NA prime time in this tier.

Dragonbrand never really advertises or gets guilds to come, we just play to have fun. We have guilds come and go all the time. If people want to come to DB, then that is fine. But usually now, they want us to pay for their transfers. Which I, myself, don’t support.

Loki.4139:

IcerXx.3670:

Loki.4139:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Loki.4139:

What is your question?
I cannot speak for the whole guild entirely, but I do talk to a lot of the higher ranked in NNK.

I believe the question is “why NNK stays on Dragonbrand where they do not have competition?”

NNK have no reason to leave Dragonbrand, nor have thought about it as a guild. They love the server and the community as much as someone loves their favorite sports team. We have our troubles here and there and no matter what we will always stay in Dragonbrand.

We do have competition some times here and there, Kaineng and SoS in the passed, we had trouble with them before. And even now with Maguuma sometimes. Just field more people in your server to give us trouble. We do get the competition but not as much.

We are happy in Dragonbrand, we love Dragonbrand and its players.

That all sounds pretty, but why is a NA server bragging that it’s got a timezone counter to typical NA player hours? The biggest thing people are complaining about is the pure stupidity that superiority in one timezone causes, which could really be solved by merging EU and US servers together

I do not know, we don’t have the best NA prime time in this tier.

Dragonbrand never really advertises or gets guilds to come, we just play to have fun. We have guilds come and go all the time. If people want to come to DB, then that is fine. But usually now, they want us to pay for their transfers. Which I, myself, don’t support.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Dragonbrand-looking-for-NA/first#post1795202

kfarb.6732:

Loki.4139:

IcerXx.3670:

Loki.4139:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Loki.4139:

What is your question?
I cannot speak for the whole guild entirely, but I do talk to a lot of the higher ranked in NNK.

I believe the question is “why NNK stays on Dragonbrand where they do not have competition?”

NNK have no reason to leave Dragonbrand, nor have thought about it as a guild. They love the server and the community as much as someone loves their favorite sports team. We have our troubles here and there and no matter what we will always stay in Dragonbrand.

We do have competition some times here and there, Kaineng and SoS in the passed, we had trouble with them before. And even now with Maguuma sometimes. Just field more people in your server to give us trouble. We do get the competition but not as much.

We are happy in Dragonbrand, we love Dragonbrand and its players.

That all sounds pretty, but why is a NA server bragging that it’s got a timezone counter to typical NA player hours? The biggest thing people are complaining about is the pure stupidity that superiority in one timezone causes, which could really be solved by merging EU and US servers together

I do not know, we don’t have the best NA prime time in this tier.

Dragonbrand never really advertises or gets guilds to come, we just play to have fun. We have guilds come and go all the time. If people want to come to DB, then that is fine. But usually now, they want us to pay for their transfers. Which I, myself, don’t support.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Dragonbrand-looking-for-NA/first#post1795202

Yes i know about that one. It’s very stale.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

I’m speaking of NA primetime, not a server’s primetime. You know when the NA crew of any server is at its peak population per night.

I specifically interpreted it as your NA crew vs our NA crew because there our SEA crew vs your NA crew is a hypothetical match-up that just won’t ever happen.

But indulging the thought anyways, my honest opinion would be that you guys would have a slight advantage. You’ve had the chance to play more games against servers with similar primetimes, so little things that don’t matter until you fight equal numbers (like certain siege placements) would most likely give you a slight edge.

Not that it means I think DB would lose in this situation- we would just make some minor mistakes that would either allow the loss of an objective every once in a while or the failure to take one here or there. These sorts of things make a difference of 10 to 20 points each, which in the grand scheme of things wouldn’t make much a difference, but would still be an advantage for your NA crew nonetheless.

Just to be clear though, I don’t think our SEA would outright lose. Our SEA went up against Kaineng’s hordes when they had a brief stay in T3, and performed pretty well (and no, this isn’t chest-thumping). I think it would be a very close match-up.

If you hate our server so much get off of it and stop posting on our behalf. Geebus.

kerona.3465:

If you hate our server so much get off of it and stop posting on our behalf. Geebus.

If you are referring to me, who said I hate Maguuma? The fairest Hackuuna and I share the same opinion of this server. People sit in towers going “Omg, 60 man zergs..”, while both of us (and AoN by proxy) sit there thinking it is a lot of bags…. I <3 DE|RP, the true work horses of Maguuma… I just care very little for the other false posturing that goes on, and there aren’t people with the kind of ethic to make something like BT and AoN work besides perhaps Tsazari and Rebel.

Zzzzzz

Get on mains.

MeamYee.9635:

Zzzzzz

Get on mains.

Go to bed, Nurse.

We’re meeting on centaur island!!

Score update for those noc shift working folks

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/14#NA

ouch

quick shoutout to NNK and TFV and all the other players in that timezone….Thank you for all that you do, in the bad times, and in the good…your pride, friendship, commitment, and honor is a rare gift, and DB is lucky to call you all compadres

a quick shoutout to the CL and the other south american YB transfers…Thank you for all that you do, and for helping YB break out of the tier 4 doldrums…Your efforts have definately helped elevate your servers effectiveness….

Dear Mag: i think if you all advertise as be the “official” roaming server, you might be able to leash in a bountiful supply of what’s left of the thieves and D/D jumping puzzle kings…. You all could make videos pretending to zerg bust, and camp flip your way back down to t4 where you seem happiest.

Seeya all on reset!

Efface.8460:

Dear Mag: i think if you all advertise as be the “official” roaming server, you might be able to leash in a bountiful supply of what’s left of the thieves and D/D jumping puzzle kings…. You all could make videos pretending to zerg bust, and camp flip your way back down to t4 where you seem happiest.

Seeya all on reset!

We’re quite happy in T4.

Hey, did you guys know there’s another server in this match up? Last Stand or something…?

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

kerona.3465:

If you hate our server so much get off of it and stop posting on our behalf. Geebus.

If you are referring to me, who said I hate Maguuma? The fairest Hackuuna and I share the same opinion of this server. People sit in towers going “Omg, 60 man zergs..”, while both of us (and AoN by proxy) sit there thinking it is a lot of bags…. I <3 DE|RP, the true work horses of Maguuma… I just care very little for the other false posturing that goes on, and there aren’t people with the kind of ethic to make something like BT and AoN work besides perhaps Tsazari and Rebel.

Have you ever played during oceanic prime with the Maguuma Aussie commander? We are constantly fighting in the open field as well as towers and he treats all invaders as walking loot bags as well as plowing face first into said 60 man zergs. And since it’s oceanic prime, it goes without saying that we are almost always outnumbered yet we farm everyone that we can before we lose the tower/keep. Saying that perhaps only two people on the entire server exist that could do that is an incredibly sweeping generalization. Maguuma players are generally laid back and not that big of try-hards to do something continually like zerg busting or raid times. So yes, it’s a matter of work ethic, but also interest.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Hey, did you guys know there’s another server in this match up? Last Stand or something…?

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

kerona.3465:

If you hate our server so much get off of it and stop posting on our behalf. Geebus.

If you are referring to me, who said I hate Maguuma? The fairest Hackuuna and I share the same opinion of this server. People sit in towers going “Omg, 60 man zergs..”, while both of us (and AoN by proxy) sit there thinking it is a lot of bags…. I <3 DE|RP, the true work horses of Maguuma… I just care very little for the other false posturing that goes on, and there aren’t people with the kind of ethic to make something like BT and AoN work besides perhaps Tsazari and Rebel.

Have you ever played during oceanic prime with the Maguuma Aussie commander? We are constantly fighting in the open field as well as towers and he treats all invaders as walking loot bags as well as plowing face first into said 60 man zergs. And since it’s oceanic prime, it goes without saying that we are almost always outnumbered yet we farm everyone that we can before we lose the tower/keep. Saying that perhaps only two people on the entire server exist that could do that is an incredibly sweeping generalization. Maguuma players are generally laid back and not that big of try-hards to do something continually like zerg busting or raid times. So yes, it’s a matter of work ethic, but also interest.

Quite a bit. And there’s no reason without proper training the Bony O’Clock crew couldn’t punck NNK in the face so to speak. But I also understand that discipline and getting everyone on mumble is a natural barrier. And I’m not so much a leader as I am a ’soldier" with some bit of knowledge of how to counter zergs. My figuring is that Bony feels underequipped during those hours.

Quit having fun, Maguuma! Get on mains!!

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Hey, did you guys know there’s another server in this match up? Last Stand or something…?

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

kerona.3465:

If you hate our server so much get off of it and stop posting on our behalf. Geebus.

If you are referring to me, who said I hate Maguuma? The fairest Hackuuna and I share the same opinion of this server. People sit in towers going “Omg, 60 man zergs..”, while both of us (and AoN by proxy) sit there thinking it is a lot of bags…. I <3 DE|RP, the true work horses of Maguuma… I just care very little for the other false posturing that goes on, and there aren’t people with the kind of ethic to make something like BT and AoN work besides perhaps Tsazari and Rebel.

Have you ever played during oceanic prime with the Maguuma Aussie commander? We are constantly fighting in the open field as well as towers and he treats all invaders as walking loot bags as well as plowing face first into said 60 man zergs. And since it’s oceanic prime, it goes without saying that we are almost always outnumbered yet we farm everyone that we can before we lose the tower/keep. Saying that perhaps only two people on the entire server exist that could do that is an incredibly sweeping generalization. Maguuma players are generally laid back and not that big of try-hards to do something continually like zerg busting or raid times. So yes, it’s a matter of work ethic, but also interest.

Quite a bit. And there’s no reason without proper training the Bony O’Clock crew couldn’t punck NNK in the face so to speak. But I also understand that discipline and getting everyone on mumble is a natural barrier. And I’m not so much a leader as I am a ’soldier" with some bit of knowledge of how to counter zergs. My figuring is that Bony feels underequipped during those hours.

The difference in responsibilities between a commander and a zerg busting group vary greatly, imo. Groups like AoN have the luxury of not worrying about contested towers/keeps, checking upgrades, walking yaks, if people on mumble are scouting the BL, prepping siege, or manning them. All these responsibilities are split between the oceanic crew which is ~20 people on mumble. NNK is able to consistently queue and outman us in our own BL, making our resources limited. You can take 5-10 people to go and attempt to wipe their zerg. But we have proven this a long and tedious process because NNK and their groups will focus on the gate they’re attacking and not fall for our attempts to draw them out. The problem is now our forces are halved and there are just a few people on siege trying to defend a gate from 40+ players auto attacking it and 4 pieces of enemy siege.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Hey, did you guys know there’s another server in this match up? Last Stand or something…?

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kerona.3465:

If you hate our server so much get off of it and stop posting on our behalf. Geebus.

If you are referring to me, who said I hate Maguuma? The fairest Hackuuna and I share the same opinion of this server. People sit in towers going “Omg, 60 man zergs..”, while both of us (and AoN by proxy) sit there thinking it is a lot of bags…. I <3 DE|RP, the true work horses of Maguuma… I just care very little for the other false posturing that goes on, and there aren’t people with the kind of ethic to make something like BT and AoN work besides perhaps Tsazari and Rebel.

Have you ever played during oceanic prime with the Maguuma Aussie commander? We are constantly fighting in the open field as well as towers and he treats all invaders as walking loot bags as well as plowing face first into said 60 man zergs. And since it’s oceanic prime, it goes without saying that we are almost always outnumbered yet we farm everyone that we can before we lose the tower/keep. Saying that perhaps only two people on the entire server exist that could do that is an incredibly sweeping generalization. Maguuma players are generally laid back and not that big of try-hards to do something continually like zerg busting or raid times. So yes, it’s a matter of work ethic, but also interest.

Thank you, all the buddy buddy posts kind of makes me sick, even when from my own server. You have saved me posting most of that.

Seriously?

Why are people still talking about DB’s overnight/morning population?
Especially YB and Mag?

We have fought each of these servers now more times than I can count, and you still can’t think of anything to bring up except “DB’s only winning because of their asians”
Are you really not bored of this conversation every week?

Rohbi has a valid point. Get over it and yourselves. You don’t like the guilds on DB or the times they play? Then maneuver your score so you don’t come into competition with DB or stay pve/spvp.

Is there any way we can have a separate thread for scores, good will/fight and normal ppl to post on? This is tiresome and I, for one, am quite surprised we aren’t on “take 4” or “5”.

Edit: @EnRohbi, because someone thinks I’m talking to him. “How to quote” pls

Currently, this is a major problem all servers need to overcome and deal with. But complaining about a boring conversation, just adds to more boring complaining (weird how that works). Why don’t you try starting up something else to talk about? These threads are an open discussion; you’re free to say what you want. But offering no contribution other than to tell people to stop participating in the current discussion is pointless. I know, I’ve tried.

What would you like to talk about, friends? I’m all ears.
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Great deal of the issue with unbalanced playing time of the different servers in this Tier comes down to map size and design far as I am concerned. You can’t change when people’s play time is. You can however lessen the effect. Lets look at Eternal and 8 a.m. EST

DB is now out in full force (honestly this is not about DBs play time) and in eternal. They roll in and take Yaks bend Valley as there is no way to stop it. They can now set up siege that makes any attempt by smaller numbers to go to Bravost, Langor, hell they make it hard to even leave the spawn point. While it is always hard to solve the issue of imbalance of numbers it is even harder when the small maps and map design makes it even easier for the greater numbers to dominate

Personally I think some of this could be solved by larger maps, greater distances between objectives, not allowing siege to dominate entire corners of a map. Let the smaller groups have room to roam and have greater effect

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How about instead of wondering why our SEA guilds stay, your NA guilds come over to DB and help make our NA stronger? If you look at this post in disgust…then you will understand why our SEA stays…if you agree…well come on over

The score as of 0945 hrs EDT.

Gamadorn.2659:

QQ insert server has better coverage

How about instead of wondering why our SEA guilds stay, your NA guilds come over to DB and help make our NA stronger? If you look at this post in disgust…then you will understand why our SEA stays…if you agree…well come on over

Agreed. Our Twainese guilds will wait patiently until our NA becomes stronger. They know what it is like for us in NA time. We made this journey together up the tiers and we will stay together. When in doubt don’t build a ram, use your hand!

Or maybe they’re happy with T3 and just enjoy PvD. It’s not like there’s any foreseeable mass source of NA players that will be able to push you into T2. DB is actually losing rating this week.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Edit: @EnRohbi, because someone thinks I’m talking to him. “How to quote” pls

Currently, this is a major problem all servers need to overcome and deal with. But complaining about a boring conversation, just adds to more boring complaining (weird how that works). Why don’t you try starting up something else to talk about? These threads are an open discussion; you’re free to say what you want. But offering no contribution other than to tell people to stop participating in the current discussion is pointless. I know, I’ve tried.

What would you like to talk about, friends? I’m all ears.
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I would never expect anyone to listen to me if I told them to stop participating in the current discussion, that’s why I didn’t say that at all.

And I actually hadn’t posted in the thread at all this week,
And mostly just wanted to get that little “replied to” arrow so I can find the thread quicker.

Zephyrus.9680:

Or maybe they’re happy with T3 and just enjoy PvD. It’s not like there’s any foreseeable mass source of NA players that will be able to push you into T2. DB is actually losing rating this week.

Which is completely out of our hands from glickowned. Honestly, I hope we do stay in T3, T1 and T2 seem like they have wayyyy too much drama on their hands.

I still don’t understand why DB wants to recruit more NA.

Your NA population is (gasp) about as large as Maguuma’s, possibly larger at some times. Last night, we took your entire borderland with 30 people. You had 30 people, too. We had some good fights, but ultimately kept you contained to one or two towers for an hour or two.

All of a sudden, out of nowhere, 60+ come and take back their garrison. You get the west keep back, and then we hold down the east keep for about an hour. Just as suddenly as the 60+ came, they were gone, so our 30 fought your 30, won a bunch, and took your borderland again.

An hour later, this same process happens again, except this time you come back with even more. If you guys would just spread out your play to have 40 people in a borderland all the time, instead of 20 for awhile, then 60+ for an hour, you would be doing much better.

Plus, ignoring the fact that your NA presence is fine (probably stronger than Yak’s NA presence, as far as population goes), if you had even more NA, you would destabilize a relatively even fight, and jump up and down from T2 every week, like FA did for awhile, or like Maguuma did with T3/T4 for the past few months.

Tl;dr: your NA population is fine, just utilize it better.

ParaldaWind.4523:

I still don’t understand why DB wants to recruit more NA.

Your NA population is (gasp) about as large as Maguuma’s, possibly larger at some times. Last night, we took your entire borderland with 30 people. You had 30 people, too. We had some good fights, but ultimately kept you contained to one or two towers for an hour or two.

All of a sudden, out of nowhere, 60+ come and take back their garrison. You get the west keep back, and then we hold down the east keep for about an hour. Just as suddenly as the 60+ came, they were gone, so our 30 fought your 30, won a bunch, and took your borderland again.

An hour later, this same process happens again, except this time you come back with even more. If you guys would just spread out your play to have 40 people in a borderland all the time, instead of 20 for awhile, then 60+ for an hour, you would be doing much better.

Plus, ignoring the fact that your NA presence is fine (probably stronger than Yak’s NA presence, as far as population goes), if you had even more NA, you would destabilize a relatively even fight, and jump up and down from T2 every week, like FA did for awhile, or like Maguuma did with T3/T4 for the past few months.

Tl;dr: your NA population is fine, just utilize it better.

Uh, last night we were outmanned in our own borderland. 30 people my kitten

We need more NA guilds because of what is happening right now in our BL at the moment. We don’t have enough people to defend and recap things.

and there’s some minor but major problems during NA time.