Guild Wars 2

SkylightMoon.1980:

The fact that you are upset is your own fault. Anet never said wxp accountbound was coming this patch. So don’t whine on the forums about it please. This is so silly.

It was announced november 27nd 2013 and we’re now at march 19th 2014. Other games have unveiled and released expansions quicker than that. Every patch that passes without it is too late at this point and that is why people are frustrated.

…

We should just rename chumbawambas tubthumping to account WXP

Soon™

It seems like this is just a reaction against Anet’s community management mistakes. WvW players were feeling neglected, so they told us some things and promised us some changes in an attempt to appease us. Then they don’t deliver it for FAR too long, but we’re supposed to be content that they’re working on it. This worked for a while. Now it’s not working so great because Anet has done this many times. X will be coming eventually and we hope that by giving you Y and continuing to mention the possibility of X, you should be satisfied and stick around until we can bring you Z which will hopefully distract from X and the failure that Y inevitably is.

It makes sense as a strategy for community management to an extent, but there’s only so far the community will allow you to go until we realize that it’s not coming… As far as I know, it’s coming 2 weeks from now, but I’ve learned to expect that in 2 weeks we’ll get a patch that pretends to help WvW but is really just a cosmetic shift or fancy event to distract us from what we were originally promised (like this week’s fix to garrison watergates and next patch’s Leagues).

The same as a lot of others i was looking forward to wxp merge and to coming back to game, but so so disappointed when i didn’t see it in the patch

Shonie.5297:

a few lines of coding for account-bound WXP for WvW in 5 months is not possible. Good job Anet.

Yo. Coding is hard, bro. And ANET only has 1 real guy and 3 paper ones in the WvW team. I mean… living story has like 30 and see what we get there… (#fillercontent)

How can one guy possibly make something, 1000x better than all the living story releases together, on his own (= accountbound wxp) ?

And we totally needed those 3×2×5 (+2) new hairstyles of course…

Anet-

“Soon”
“When it’s done”
“No grind…”
“$$$$”
“LS = expansion worth”
“Features: not in June”
“Works as intended”

Have more?

To do list:

Stop buying gems (no need to gear up other chars, or buy more commander tags);

Play WWW season 2, because I have friends there and I will not let them down;

Leave the game a.s.a. WWW season 2 ends.

PS: I’m convinced now, GW2 there nothing to do with GW1.

i dont think so. They are not answering hacking questions and deletin’ all post about hacking.

atheria.2837:

adil.1804:

who cares bound world xp. We have hackers and nobody wants to play www anymore.

Well they know that because they have been moving these postings around – so we all hope to hear an answer on that one soon.

I just had the strangest thought – the WvW subforum is like a school. We, the players are like the big bad bullies. We want answers(bully) from the devs(the snotty rich kids). The devs don’t reply(the kids hide) and send the moderators after us(and send the adults after us). We threat with leaving the game/not buying any more gems(the bullies swear revenge).
I actually thought it describes the situation quite accurately.

they are reading our complains, but ignoring all of it. they lock and remove topics about. yet no reaction.

Halk Toyne.4983:

they are reading our complains, but ignoring all of it. they lock and remove topics about. yet no reaction.

well, it beats the sPvP forums where certain threads have posts ninja removed without any notice to the posters.

Now would be a great time for Ally or someone to clear the air about this dilemma and soothe our minds before this thread (and many others) fills with negative comments and gets locked…

Sooooo… I guess im stuck on my guardian for the season :/

Romek.4201:

you should post this wvw stuff in PVE forum and not here

cause wvw is more pve than pvp

Because in WvW we play with real gear and not the jr. ones with training wheels.

Prysin.8542:

Halk Toyne.4983:

they are reading our complains, but ignoring all of it. they lock and remove topics about. yet no reaction.

well, it beats the sPvP forums where certain threads have posts ninja removed without any notice to the posters.

That happens here too.

at least they didn’t delete wvw (yet)

Pointless (and annoying) getting points reset before the season starts, without bringing in account bound wexp…now I get the joy of redoing every alt’s points for no purpose at all.

Thanks for the extra work anet…

Cecilia.5179:

Now would be a great time for Ally or someone to clear the air about this dilemma and soothe our minds before this thread (and many others) fills with negative comments and gets locked…

WvW Forum Score:

ANet clears the air ………… 7
ANet locks/deletes thread ………………. 345,078,746

Pavel.8531:

I just had the strangest thought – the WvW subforum is like a school. We, the players are like the big bad bullies. We want answers(bully) from the devs(the snotty rich kids). The devs don’t reply(the kids hide) and send the moderators after us(and send the adults after us). We threat with leaving the game/not buying any more gems(the bullies swear revenge).
I actually thought it describes the situation quite accurately.

More like we have a car that needs a new component after a recall. Anet says they have the parts on order but aren’t sure when it will arrive. It’s been months, they won’t tell us when the order will arrive or if it will ever arrive and they are the only company with access to the parts.
Every time we try to get answers personally they have security escort us off the premises.

Substance E.4852:

Pavel.8531:

I just had the strangest thought – the WvW subforum is like a school. We, the players are like the big bad bullies. We want answers(bully) from the devs(the snotty rich kids). The devs don’t reply(the kids hide) and send the moderators after us(and send the adults after us). We threat with leaving the game/not buying any more gems(the bullies swear revenge).
I actually thought it describes the situation quite accurately.

More like we have a car that needs a new component after a recall. Anet says they have the parts on order but aren’t sure when it will arrive. It’s been months, they won’t tell us when the order will arrive or if it will ever arrive and they are the only company with access to the parts.
Every time we try to get answers personally they have security escort us off the premises.

yup that sounds about right. at this point im not going to play WVW season 2 and am going into other F2P MMO’s i have put up with this crap since launch. there comes a time to say F__K YOU ANET

player moral is at an all time high, keep up the good work anet

I can hear AvA calling…

Sirendor.1394:

And we totally needed those 3×2×5 (+2) new hairstyles of course…

Hey, I really like new hairstyles.

Some kind of word on when this’ll be going live would be really, really nice. Don’t want to wait until the season’s over before we get it. Really hoping the community managers are aware of this, and personally, I’d prefer an exact, if disappointing, ETA over no communication at all.

Just an FYI:

If you look at the schedule of “Features” that they are going to talk about, next week there is a day reserved for “Account Bound”

I don’t know about you guys but I’m going to remain optimistic. Could this be the date? Does it mean that the account bound rework planned in the feature patch will redo the WXP as well?

I remain optimistic, as should you! Because negativity is just bleh.

Altie.4571:

Just an FYI:

If you look at the schedule of “Features” that they are going to talk about, next week there is a day reserved for “Account Bound”

I don’t know about you guys but I’m going to remain optimistic. Could this be the date? Does it mean that the account bound rework planned in the feature patch will redo the WXP as well?

I remain optimistic, as should you! Because negativity is just bleh.

Awesome!

Altie.4571:

Just an FYI:

If you look at the schedule of “Features” that they are going to talk about, next week there is a day reserved for “Account Bound”

I don’t know about you guys but I’m going to remain optimistic. Could this be the date? Does it mean that the account bound rework planned in the feature patch will redo the WXP as well?

I remain optimistic, as should you! Because negativity is just bleh.

I have faith,

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/feature-packs/

The art of Combat, could it be the balance update ?

Looking for group ? this is promising, they might have improved the party system

Account-Bound, yay !

Altie.4571:

Just an FYI:

If you look at the schedule of “Features” that they are going to talk about, next week there is a day reserved for “Account Bound”

I don’t know about you guys but I’m going to remain optimistic. Could this be the date? Does it mean that the account bound rework planned in the feature patch will redo the WXP as well?

I remain optimistic, as should you! Because negativity is just bleh.

I was also wondering whether the “account bound” entry was about WvW points… can be anything, from ranks to legendary or other objects, or tag… :s
We’ll know on the 27th!

Calendar of blog post regardin april 15th patch :
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/feature-packs/

:excited and happy:

It could be “account-bound” legendaries…. don’t get hopes up.

Luvpie.8350:

It could be “account-bound” legendaries…. don’t get hopes up.

My hopes are already up.. it could be both!

Deadplanet.3810:

Luvpie.8350:

It could be “account-bound” legendaries…. don’t get hopes up.

My hopes are already up.. it could be both!

or none…

Jocksy.3415:

Deadplanet.3810:

Luvpie.8350:

It could be “account-bound” legendaries…. don’t get hopes up.

My hopes are already up.. it could be both!

or none…

“Account bound Masterwork Items! We felt like ppl dont use them once they hit lvl 80, so to give them a little more meaning we made them accoundbound! ENJOY!”

Any other dev would have cleared up the confusion by now. If it’s already set in stone whether it is or isn’t WXP, there shouldn’t be any holding back.

’course that would require the dev actually cares about this part of their community.

Well I’m viewing it as a game based rework of the Account bound system.

Now when you think about it, that would be the best place to reword character experience as well. If they will do something that impacts toons across the realm of the game.

But I won’t speculate too much, we’ll see next week. After all, we waited 3 months, what’s another week?

Out of WvW I want 3 things:
Balance update
Account bound wxp so I’m not pigeon holed to one toon
Raid party system for commanders/commander flexibility (as a former full time commander I’ve seen so many deficiencies yet so much potential)

If we get 1/3 I’ll take it for this season!

I have 11 lv. 80 toons and almost 1300 achievement points. I have bought hundreds of dollars worth of bank slots, backpack slots, character slots, armor skins, weapon skins and dies. I have almost 20,000 WvW player kills. I have been here since prerelease. I am beyond tired of being strung along. I want a good combat-focused MMO that doesn’t use ‘achievement points’ to keep me playing instead of solid WvW endgame mechanics. Fortunately, there is another MMO launching in just over a week, and I found during the beta testing for that game that it has what I’m looking for. Of course, some will disagree, but I’ll see some of you in Tamriel!

‘Soon’ just wasn’t soon enough for me.

Did you really list almost 20k kills in WvW since release at a positive stat?

edit: almost?

eithinan.9841:

Did you really list almost 20k kills in WvW since release at a positive stat?

edit: almost?

Depends on the tier. Lower tiers don’t get the same kill opportunities as higher tier servers. Also the play style matters a lot. I mostly skirmish/roam in a mid tier server so my “almost” 60k kills is very high for where I am at and the style of fighting I do. However 60k kills on a T1 or T2 zerging isn’t that many.

No, there are people with far more WvW kills than I. Bragging wasn’t my point. My point is that I’ve invested a lot in the game. If WvW were implemented well, I’d spend all of my gaming time there. As it is, WvW is extremely below its potential. I play WvW more and more rarely now. -_-

Daddar.5971:

No, there are people with far more WvW kills than I. Bragging wasn’t my point. My point is that I’ve invested a lot in the game. If WvW were implemented well, I’d spend all of my gaming time there. As it is, WvW is extremely below its potential. I play WvW more and more rarely now. -_-

Just a note for your rant:

Problem with “combat-only” games is that the player gets bored after a set amount and leave. So every game ends up instituting an achievement or a vertical progression system just to keep players. Happened with every known game so far and will happen with your new one (I’m assuming you are speaking of an NCSoft game that is in beta right now).

So no matter what, you will end up chasing a carrot. Just depends on how much you want that carrot.

The biggest problem with the account bound wxp not being implemented for season 2 is the fact that Anet couldn’t take two seconds to put a post on the forums saying “it’s taken longer than we had hoped and therefore wxp being account bound won’t be included in the game before season 2 starts” . How hard would that simple courtesy have been? Whether or not they went into details as to why it wouldn’t be included is immaterial. It’s just a matter of common courtesy which is apparently not very common at Anet.

I’m with y’all. I too worked on getting 8 level 80’s geared up, one in each profession, just for this WvW tournament. And like the rest of you, I am supposed to be excited about season 2? Playing only my oldest and most tired out character?

Anet has code that can lock 300 people in battle, in real time, and do real time complex calculations, taking into account every variation in armor and stats, and people throwing all possible combinations of base skills, and using unlimited variations in combo’s. And Anet can give us the results in real time. Anet can calculate the trajectory of moving 3D characters through 3D fields of play. All at the same time, from players all over the world, no less. Billions, and Trillions, and Quagillions, of complex calculations per second, across multiple adjoined servers. Anet can also support real time auction houses…The most complex of complex codes everywhere you look.

…But Anet can’t create basic programming to do a “one time basic addition math calculation” on an account? Anet can’t come up with an answer to: 14+179+4+ 39+ 44+21+187+53= ?

Oh wait, the first five levels are half levels, so that makes it higher than 2nd grade math. So, maybe hire a 3rd grader? Just spit-balling some options here.

With so many years, so many hours, and so many dollars into the GW games, I hate posting anything so negative. But, I recruited a bunch of friends to our server 2 months ago for WvW. And they are already gone because of this kind of stuff.

And, after seeing this latest completely meaningless reset in points, and watching a dying WvW server, I’ve almost completely lost interest in season 2. I have no interest in playing the same old characters at all. I suddenly don’t care if we win, or lose, or if everyone quits. I don’t care about better match-ups, or any of it. It just genuinely makes me sad. Because it all had so much potential with all new characters and professions. Seemingly the Anet team can’t get their priorities, and our incentives to play straight. I just want to play my other characters, with the points that I’ve earned playing countless hours of WvW. I don’t want to play them as a scrub that can’t even run an arrow cart, can’t shoot a supply draining cow, and can’t use the superior ram that I just built, as powerfully as the up-level beginner next to me.

Why did I even level up my characters at all? To wait for July? Sorry, that’s boating season. Maybe next December?

“Get it done before the season 2 match-up, or, you’re fired, and I’ll hire someone who can…” That’s honestly what I’d say if I was the boss there, seeing a huge loss of player base, and loss of revenue looming, and a having threads full of people saying the same thing. …And it would magically get done before season 2. Yes, it would. …Sorry boss, we can’t do basic math programming on static characters on a player’s account for one time use… Nope. Not buying it. It’s like having high school kids who can’t get a 2 page essay done in 4 months, because they just started on it 2 days ago…

“Before season 2. Or, the players won’t be the only ones walking.” That really is what I’d say if I was the boss there… Just food for thought I guess, since I’m not. I’m just another long time GW player. (…Maybe.)

‘We have scrapped the idea of soulbound/accountbound. If you die in PvP you will now loose your equipment.’

I feel like making March 27th the day that they discuss “account bound”, that if it’s anything OTHER than account bound wxp, then Anet is clearly trolling us.
The day before a major WvW season commences, having a title like ‘account bound’ had better be WvW related.

Shonie.5297:

I feel like making March 27th the day that they discuss “account bound”, that if it’s anything OTHER than account bound wxp, then Anet is clearly trolling us.
The day before a major WvW season commences, having a title like ‘account bound’ had better be WvW related.

Well one problem still remains:
They DISCUSS “account bound” on March 27th (so one day before season 2) but unless they do an extra patch for it it won’t be in for the start of season 2. And it really makes me sad, that something like this a) takes like 5(?) months and more till they get it ingame and that b) it isn’t ready in time for season 2 while they still pump out content that is more complex than this for other areas of the game. I’m just really really disappointed at this point. And many other wvw-players on my server are disappointed about it too. This is without, exaggeration, the most anticipated feature for wvw since the start of the game. I never wanted wvw-skills to begin with but now we have them and I’m okay with that. But I NEVER liked the idea of it being character bound. And a lot of people didn’t like it either. We mentioned that this was a bad idea as soon as they announced WXP. It’s such a long time since then and all I feel right now is just a gigantic disappointment. It’s really one of the things I think about every day because I’m confronted with it every day in wvw and it is therefore the most formative thing in wvw for me right now and it reduces the amount of fun I have. And I’m just sad that all we get atm is just total silence…

I think listing over 100k player kills since launch is probably the least positive thing you can do. Get some fresh air?

Account bound probably refers to the new Wardrobe they are implementing.

Having read a lot of the updates today, the rule ‘tournements mean no wvw update while it lasts’ will be broken tremendously, with or without account wxp. Why? Sigil changes (for instance the beloved stacking weapons + other set to equip it over when you have the set, will be nerfed, you will have to choose wich one you want). Crit damage is nerfed (big bummer for thiefs and maybe warriors).

Guilds that love to wvw, can now change builds on the fly, this can really change the course of a matchup.

Rune set change… Might change a lot also, same for sigil changes. Adding 40 new traits might also change a lot of builds.

With this the rulebreaking is 100% certainly set in stone.

I truly see no reason why wxp account bound would not make it in now tbh. The silence about it (i mean it has been the most discussed topic last 2 weeks and no red post at all) incline they just want to keep it a surprise. Look at how they are teasing us day by day with more info. Clearly it had to be all settled into this way marketing wise. If they now not release wxp account bound, it’s gonna kitten of a lot of player (and this time not a simple kitten off, but a tru rage, perhaps ragequit). Before you think I exaggerate, this is how it works when you hype an update and fail to deliver. Eso release date close to that doenst help much either. You will have to deliver. At least that’s my vision of it.

Oh come on everybody, go easy on them.
They have only one developer on the WvW team.
He is busy working to put some living story event into WvW map.

Don’t you see, this whole trolling, slow-rolling, drip-dripping rollout is entirely and exactly timed to coincide with ESO early access opening. That by the way is at 7 a.m. ET on March 28. Regular access ESO launches on 4/4, the same day ast the last scheduled GW2 blog post reveal. Coincidence? Yeah, right…