Devs- There are obviously unintended issues and exploits going on from certain tonics, so we need to disable all of them in wvw and be done with it.
Players- No, we don’t need the devs wasting time, effort and resources going through every tonic and tonic skill to determine which ones are exploitable. There are a plethora of major issues that need to be addressed and we need the devs to focus on those.
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221 hours over 1,581 days of bank space/hot pve/lion’s arch afk and some wvw.
NO NO NO not all tonics. Some are 100% harmless and that would be unfair to people who bought them and are only wvwers. How about the ones that give an unfair advantage or something. Because when I bought things and they were usable in wvw that’d be unfair to me and other
Anet disables one that give you a like a leap forward or are somehow and unfair advantage. Some tonics are just silly and don’t hurt anyone like a quaggan tonic or how about silly stuff like riding brooms and carpets that would be unfair to disable since they don’t hurt anyone in wvw. I bought that crap to have fun with it.
Sorry, but I personally don’t want the devs spending precious time reviewing tonics and tonic skills in combination with player skills, runes, sigils… to find the “safe” tonics so bored players can use them in our competitive realm vs realm pvp mode…
New Main- 80 Thief – P/P- Vault Spam Pro
221 hours over 1,581 days of bank space/hot pve/lion’s arch afk and some wvw.
Removing exploits through tonics and cutting out abuse of unintended movement advantages are more important.
Maybe your post should mention what exploits specifically and what advantages they bring to the table. Most of them have been removed over the years at the expense of the playerbase. There aren’t many left to complain about, and the benefits they provide are irrelevant in a mode like wvsw where you have so many unique buffs/stats you can be running.
I mean next thing we know people are gonna want wvw gear to be standardized like pvp…..you need to draw the line somewhere.
So tell us where you want the line drawn swagger. Where is the line gonna be and how do you justify it being where you want it? If you want it at tonics being disabled you need to address standardized gear and any other similar instances where the fun of many might adversely affect the fairness of another’s fight.
The remaining buffs of tonics are completely irrelevant to zerg warefare and the mode in general. They only have a noticable impact on 1v1 fights….and its still minuscule compared to all the other buffs you can bring into a fight. You should know 1vs1 fights are on anet’s “I don’t give a kitten” list……so how do you justify making these changes?
You might as well put “I want all gem store items removed from wvsw” in your title.
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They only have a noticable impact on 1v1 fights….and its still minuscule compared to all the other buffs you can bring into a fight.
As a solo roamer for more than 2 years i have never met somebody who used tonics to gain an advantage in a fight. Ever. Tonics were always used for fun in a friendly manner.
The “tonic exploiting” is virtually non-existent.
If all tonics disabled the use of costume brawl skills things would be a lot better.
No costume brawl skills = no use of movement impending/leaping/dashing skills. That way people can run around as they wish in tonic form but unable to use so called exploit skills/unintended advantages in WvW.
tonic must be disabled in wvw. Period.
all of them.
There is no point to use them in wvw or pvp they do not serve any purpoise in those modes.
The tonics must be disabled in competitive ASAP.
NO USE FOR THEM? NO kitten USE?? HOW THE HELL AM I SUPOSSED TO WALK AROUND THE ENTIRE MAP AS A QUAGGAN NOW?!
No seriously… They aren’t useless. They bring fun, that’s what they are supposed to do. Removing them would take us another option to be friends with each other on a battlefield that is almost always filled with 5v1 gankers and alikes.
What’s funny is that Anet disabled the Mushroom Tonic but failed to realize that there are other Mushroom Tonics (like King) that still work and do the exact same thing. I see people running around using them for a mobility exploit.
All the tonics should be turned off and a whitelist made to explicitly allow those that aren’t considered exploity.
I agree with disabling any active effects from tonics in WvW but removing them would be a disaster. Well known commanders are pinsniped relentlessly and tonics are one of the few ways to combat this and make commander harder to identify.
