Guild Wars 2

WvW needs better rewards not just the reward track. Current if you win a matchup all you get is a chest that shouldnt be the case. If a server wins a match up everyone who participated that week should get lile 100 gold and some exotics with a fair chance of getting ascended item.

Currently fractals has the option to buy ascended gear. Why doesnt WvW has the option to buy ascended armor/weapon. In my opinion you need ascended gear a lot more in WvW than PvE.

If you are outnumbered you should get gold for defending objectives. It could be somewhere from 5-15 gold depending on the obj.
Camp- 5g
Tower-10g
Keep-15g

If there are players running yak to help upgrade objective they should get 20 silver from each run. If there are players who are killing yaks and preventing objective from upgrading they should get 10 silver if there is no one defending but if there is someone defending then 50 silver.

Dragonstand, Auric Basin, Tangled Depth, and Verdinct Brink can we have these map reward track permanently available??? I really hate going to pve maps and having to farm the meta. Its really boring. I rather be in WvW put the reward track on and enjoy killing players.

This is just an idea. WvW has the option to buy those hero point scrolls to rank up specializations but can we also have the option to use a different scroll to finish all the heart events in PvE maps because those events arw really boring and annoying. Those hearts are literally the reason people dont do map completion nor get legendary qq.

This is joke right ?

Rewards shouldn’t be given away for winning matchups because people will just stack in a single server to win… It already happen for a chest with 2 blues and 1 green. What you think will happen if you give 100g away like that?

Rewards for defending walled objectives can be tricky… One can just dump a bit of supply in a damaged wall/gate and get participation for the defense event. This will incentive kittens to waste supplies to get their shineis. Also, they removed reward from yak escorts because of botting remember?

WvW can’t have nice things because people don’t know how to play nice. I’m actually impressed we got reward tracks which already allow afk farming behavior.

The only actual good idea in there is the asking for a vendor to sell ascended stuff in WvW. We already been asking this for ages. Altho crafting ascended currently is cheaper than buying the chests on the fractals even if you buy all the mats (considering the price of the stabilizing matrixes) which lead me to expect that if they ever add the ascended chests it will be super overpriced and likely not worth it.

This will only lead to more bandwagoning/stacking on one server to get the 100g plus the exos, no ty.

Better rewards are needed yes, but not for the server’s placement. Individual players have very little control over that.

Rewards like those should be given based on the player’s contribution to the total. Ideally it should be easier to get better rewards on under-populated servers.

I’m just hoping we get our own WvW Legendary back piece and we also get the Mistforged Hero’s weapons reward track or however they implement. Asked it at the ama with no reply.

I dont want people being encouraged to go into wvw to farm stuff. The current reward system is fine, and a hell of a lot better then in the past. Making certain reward tracks repeatable is a reasonable request.

Literally the only think that needs to change is that there needs to be a WvW legendary backpack like pvp. The reward track is fine.

100g per sever win….lol.

I respect that you are trying to think of a way to give more incentive for players to strive to defend more. Often in WvW they are really the unsung hero’s that make or break a matchup. but what you are talking about here is way too much gold and will lead to more problems like those mentioned in other post before mine. Also you’ll see more just logging in to stand in a keep with a second account to farm it if that much gold was offered.

As for rewards I still feel they are lacking and the heroic tokens should be dumped for battle points to buy with. Once again development had to put in a handicap gear edge against new or starting players…such /fail.

Rewards are tricky, if paid to the winner, people may tend to stack servers. If you pay them only to those with out manned buff, people may game the system or abuse fellow server members.

I would suggest introducing a line with an ascended WvW backpiece reward might split the difference?

BRING THE TRAAAAAAAAAIN!!!

Ben K.6238:

Rewards like those should be given based on the player’s contribution to the total. Ideally it should be easier to get better rewards on under-populated servers.

This is a good suggestion, but let’s not forget that rewarding activity doesn’t have to be flooding the player’s inventory with salvage trash. I would find it very rewarding indeed if there was some high score list to acknowledge those who do useful work: capture camps, kill enemy players without getting killed and defend towers. Naturally in lower population servers there’s less competition for top spots.

Dont forget that you can still make more gold in PvE!
You know how Anet like to keep things balanced.

Buy Some Apples.6390:

Dont forget that you can still make more gold in PvE!
You know how Anet like to keep things balanced.

“TRUE!!!” Why is that? As long as WvW is healthy and happy it still earns the project $$ because players will still make cash purchases.

God knows I’ve been here just a little over a year and have made my creditcard sing high notes buying pixels.

Rewards for wvw are very good atm and if you play a lot of wvw, then you will get enough ascended armor and weapon chests. With the current gold earned from wvw you can also buy the materials to buy ascended armor fast enough as well.

WvW-rankup-chests look a bit slim atm compared to the reward tracks though. I would like to see a weaponset/armorskinset that is exclusive for wvw and can drop off the wvw-rankup-chests (higher chance with higher ranks) and small adaptations to the rankup-chests to make them worthwhile (guaranteed rare for example, more sinks for the exclusive rankup materials). If reward tracks have to be toned down for this to be implemented, then I would be fine with that.

I am against big prices for winning the matchup, as it would give people a reason to transfer to winning servers. I am also against high monetary rewards, as the average wvw player plays the game so much that giving them more money would make the game more boring for them when trying to achieve their goals like a legendary.

Rink.6108:

WvW-rankup-chests look a bit slim atm compared to the reward tracks though. I would like to see a weaponset/armorskinset that is exclusive for wvw and can drop off the wvw-rankup-chests (higher chance with higher ranks) and small adaptations to the rankup-chests to make them worthwhile (guaranteed rare for example, more sinks for the exclusive rankup materials). If reward tracks have to be toned down for this to be implemented, then I would be fine with that.

WvW already have exclusive Armor and Weapons: The Triumphant Armor and the Hero Weapons (And the Triumphant Hero and Mistforged Weapons who are currently unavaible but already planned to go live someday/somehow).

WvW rewards are better, but still fall short of PvE offerings. Dump the hero tokens and go with just battle points.

Zenith.6403
Jeknar.6184
+1 to both

Jeknar.6184:

Rink.6108:

WvW-rankup-chests look a bit slim atm compared to the reward tracks though. I would like to see a weaponset/armorskinset that is exclusive for wvw and can drop off the wvw-rankup-chests (higher chance with higher ranks) and small adaptations to the rankup-chests to make them worthwhile (guaranteed rare for example, more sinks for the exclusive rankup materials). If reward tracks have to be toned down for this to be implemented, then I would be fine with that.

WvW already have exclusive Armor and Weapons: The Triumphant Armor and the Hero Weapons (And the Triumphant Hero and Mistforged Weapons who are currently unavaible but already planned to go live someday/somehow).

That’s the problem…its always someday somehow were WvW is concerned. It has improved I agree, but not enough to stay exclusively in WvW.

lgutsl.3257:

I’m just hoping we get our own WvW Legendary back piece and we also get the Mistforged Hero’s weapons reward track or however they implement. Asked it at the ama with no reply.

That is because they are to focused on the PvE and PvP content to give a crap….

The gold for defense thing would bring in hundreds of thousands of gold every 3 minutes if all maps were queued for all servers bringing in almost 100 million gold a day.

You’d best believe if I could make 15 gold every 3 minutes on one map by bouncing between the perma-contested keeps putting in supply I’d do it and so would everyone else.

Do you know how long wvwer’s have been asking for a reward track and finally got it with the release of hot! It sounds like the op is all about the gold and not about wvw game play. The reward tracks were brought in for wvwers who didn’t want to pve or pvp but prefered to wvw and unlock dungeon tracks to get the skin of the armour that they wanted. You get exotic armour and weapons with badges you get in wvw. I’m happy with the rewards we get and i think op is just being greedy. You should have played wvw in the begining where you had no reward tracks at all.

Tifa.6473:

Do you know how long wvwer’s have been asking for a reward track and finally got it with the release of hot! It sounds like the op is all about the gold and not about wvw game play. The reward tracks were brought in for wvwers who didn’t want to pve or pvp but prefered to wvw and unlock dungeon tracks to get the skin of the armour that they wanted. You get exotic armour and weapons with badges you get in wvw. I’m happy with the rewards we get and i think op is just being greedy. You should have played wvw in the begining where you had no reward tracks at all.

+1

While thinking about it: The issue is a bit more complex: You get a massive amount of loot on the HoT maps – I was seriously annoyed when getting my mastery ranks “Oh no, not a full inventory again!” BUT on the other hand: The mats requirements for the new legendaries are insane. Maybe work from the top down. Make the new legendaries a bit less expensive, give out a bit less loot on the HoT maps.
I can remember Halloween 3 years ago. Anet tried to restrict the amount of loot and gold we gain, so all you got in the labyrinth were some spikes – it was deserted after 2 days max (that was before megaservers though, but I don’t think even a megaserver could’ve saved that situation). Not that much fun.
We did play wvw although we had to pay for the upgrades (most didn’t give a kitten, granted), although we didn’t have reward tracks. It was “enough” even then, although a bit unfair in comparison to the other modes. It’s plenty now and we don’t need more, really.

Jana.6831:

+1

While thinking about it: The issue is a bit more complex: You get a massive amount of loot on the HoT maps – I was seriously annoyed when getting my mastery ranks “Oh no, not a full inventory again!” BUT on the other hand: The mats requirements for the new legendaries are insane. Maybe work from the top down. Make the new legendaries a bit less expensive, give out a bit less loot on the HoT maps.
I can remember Halloween 3 years ago. Anet tried to restrict the amount of loot and gold we gain, so all you got in the labyrinth were some spikes – it was deserted after 2 days max (that was before megaservers though, but I don’t think even a megaserver could’ve saved that situation). Not that much fun.
We did play wvw although we had to pay for the upgrades (most didn’t give a kitten, granted), although we didn’t have reward tracks. It was “enough” even then, although a bit unfair in comparison to the other modes. It’s plenty now and we don’t need more, really.

And don’t forget repair costs

Tifa.6473:

Do you know how long wvwer’s have been asking for a reward track and finally got it with the release of hot! It sounds like the op is all about the gold and not about wvw game play. The reward tracks were brought in for wvwers who didn’t want to pve or pvp but prefered to wvw and unlock dungeon tracks to get the skin of the armour that they wanted. You get exotic armour and weapons with badges you get in wvw. I’m happy with the rewards we get and i think op is just being greedy. You should have played wvw in the begining where you had no reward tracks at all.

Spot on. Even though i dont play this mode for the rewards, theyre overwhelming opposed to what it has been like 3-4 years back. I like reward tracks.

Entenkommando.5208:

And don’t forget repair costs

I was on IoJ, we were outnumbered 24/7

ETA: What was pretty costly though was food – the node changes helped with that. For me it was better before though, I’m using plates of orrian steak frittes and NC was the best spot to farm black peppercorn. Ask Babou – I spent hours in the NC farming and listed him all prices of all herbs I had in my inventory – yes, I’m a very interesting person!

Rewards are pretty good now. Wish the reward tracks went a bit faster, but I can deal. There’s just one thing missing:
Legendary WvW back piece please!
For the love of all the gods and little fishes, give us the chance to get one with our preferred method of play!

Just add a gold/money reward track… obviously there are calculations to determine the values of each reward track. Offer one to provide just money, repeatable. The system in place right now gives way to much fluff, and commanders don’t break to clear bags.

WvW will never reap the rewards PvE provides, it’s just not going to happen… ever, but I’d be happy to turn my track into a payroll department for my time spent in WvW. I needed to make 18gold yesterday to finish crafting to ascended for an alt, think I went to WvW to complete it? Nope … AB meta + sell useless crap, got it in 2 hours.

OK, I’ve thought about ir, so you get someone on an enemy server to put up a cata and hit the wall. When damaged enough you all repair and 15 gold each every few minutes. Then later return the favour. That would certainly please cheaters.

No.

Zenith.6403:

This is a good suggestion, but let’s not forget that rewarding activity doesn’t have to be flooding the player’s inventory with salvage trash. I would find it very rewarding indeed if there was some high score list to acknowledge those who do useful work: capture camps, kill enemy players without getting killed and defend towers. Naturally in lower population servers there’s less competition for top spots.

Even with no other rewards attached, that’d be really good to have.

I’m wondering if it’s possible to get this data via API in the meanwhile.

Flat rewards are not a good idea to add to any of the objectives, the reward should be proportional to the participants.

A better idea would be to have the reward scale similar to the lords scaling style, but then also modified by the ratio of attackers vs defenders. Thus outnumbering your opponent is not rewarded as much but beating the odds is valuable towards organized groups.

Additionally, every kill could add a bonus to the teams prize pool, maybe with a bonus on stomps (to keep the bloodlust theme of rewarding stomps rather than just cleaving everything down), so if you just force the enemy away from an objective, you don’t get as much.

This can even apply to yak escort missions, the more enemies you defeat/encounter while escorting the yak, the more you get at the end, with kills being worth more than just fighting then running away.

Defense events should be tuned to actual KOs with enemies who flee being worth less (and they don’t get any rewards at all since they don’t take the objective).

A guildy suggested rewards based on skirmish be:
30g for winning, 20g for second, 10g for losing ( liquid gold).
with reduced rewards if you aren’t in the skirmish for the full two hours, in 30 minute chunks. ( with say 5% leyway, for dc’s).

I don’t see it happening, but I figured it chuck it out there.

Any Skirmish reward should factor in relative Glicko (at a minimum, matchups are important when doing odds of winning) during the skirmish time slot. Servers more likely to win (odds wise) will get less while servers less likely to win should earn more.

This could hinder stacking, as stacking leads to higher odds of winning (due to population/coverage), and could help balance time slots out (therefore making odds of winning even for the highest rewards).