Guild Wars 2

Hey everyone! Just wanted to personally show some appreciation towards all the servers that my guild (on Blackgate) have fought against! It’s been a fantastic Season 1, really glad we were able to pull through as a server & fight some top quality guilds.

I’m definitely looking forward to seeing that Golden Dolyak & I simply cannot wait for this upcoming Season 2!

Thanks for reading, have a nice day! ^-^

I must day, week 5 against bg (i’m from jq) was really awesome. It was really close during the weekend and We even managed to get ahead in poiints after a comeback. It didn’t last though :/. Gratz to you!

grats to buygate!

It was a hard fought battle. Many a hour was spent farming the gold required to transfer over enough reinforcements to make sure that SoR didn’t put us in our place.

Can there ever be a civilized thread about Blackgate… Congrats Blackgate, congrats FA, and congrats Henge of Denravi.

Dash.7108:

Can there ever be a civilized thread about Blackgate… Congrats Blackgate, congrats FA, and congrats Henge of Denravi.

haters gonna hate,
everyone hates on BG but none have been able to beat it, so far.

It’s not BG’s fault you do not have the coverage to keep the good fights going long enough to overcome us.

Congratulations to all Blackgatians
you prepared for it, you fought for it, you managed your coverage to defend it all, you fought your opposition to the last man standing, you never ran from a fight.

You earned your win, let’s enjoy it.

Latinkuro.9420:

Dash.7108:

Can there ever be a civilized thread about Blackgate… Congrats Blackgate, congrats FA, and congrats Henge of Denravi.

haters gonna hate,
everyone hates on BG but none have been able to beat it, so far.

It’s not BG’s fault you do not have the coverage to keep the good fights going long enough to overcome us.

Congratulations to all Blackgatians
you prepared for it, you fought for it, you managed your coverage to defend it all, you fought your opposition to the last man standing, you never ran from a fight.

You earned your win, let’s enjoy it.

well you earned the gold that paid for it anyways, close enuff

Dash.7108:

Can there ever be a civilized thread about Blackgate… Congrats Blackgate, congrats FA, and congrats Henge of Denravi.

When servers no longer stack population, then yes. Those that do it will not receive the respect they otherwise would. Until that is rectified and stops for good, no chance. None.

Congratulations, Stackgate <3

Latinkuro.9420:

Dash.7108:

Can there ever be a civilized thread about Blackgate… Congrats Blackgate, congrats FA, and congrats Henge of Denravi.

haters gonna hate,
everyone hates on BG but none have been able to beat it, so far.

It’s not BG’s fault you do not have the coverage to keep the good fights going long enough to overcome us.

Congratulations to all Blackgatians
you prepared for it, you fought for it, you managed your coverage to defend it all, you fought your opposition to the last man standing, you never ran from a fight.

You earned your win, let’s enjoy it.

Grats to BG on winning gold league.

that said, if you think BG never ran from a fight then I need to start recording wvw.

Congrats to the servers everyone knew were going to win at that start.

My question is who congratulates themselves.. I just don’t get it.

I hope someday we will play a league where we don’t already know who will win in the beginning.

Mbelch.9028:

My question is who congratulates themselves..

Americans don’t like the word “entitlement”/“self-entitlement”, do they?

Svarty.8019:

Mbelch.9028:

My question is who congratulates themselves..

Americans don’t like the word “entitlement”/“self-entitlement”, do they?

I’m an American, but I just don’t support anybody gloating.

Svarty.8019:

Mbelch.9028:

My question is who congratulates themselves..

Americans don’t like the word “entitlement”/“self-entitlement”, do they?

no, but we sure love to hand them out.

And you all spent so much time complaining about how easy a schedule Jade Quarry got.

Becka Williams.4978:

And you all spent so much time complaining about how easy a schedule Jade Quarry got.

they did, JQ should have received as much as a stomping from BG as SoR did. Egos can only take so much of a bruising.

Another one of these self congratulating posts from BG? o.O

Samhayn.2385:

Becka Williams.4978:

And you all spent so much time complaining about how easy a schedule Jade Quarry got.

they did, JQ should have received as much as a stomping from BG as SoR did. Egos can only take so much of a bruising.

Yet, somehow, BG still won.

Becka Williams.4978:

Samhayn.2385:

Becka Williams.4978:

And you all spent so much time complaining about how easy a schedule Jade Quarry got.

they did, JQ should have received as much as a stomping from BG as SoR did. Egos can only take so much of a bruising.

Yet, somehow, BG still won.

yes and they deserve it, my point was they should have had JQ and BG meet up as many times as BG and SoR did. Spread the pain around a bit more.

does the word deserve now mean “have the most coverage”

I will always remember BagsGate for giving me tons of shiny!

Darek.1836:

does the word deserve now mean “have the most coverage”

yes it does, if that’s the way the game needs to be played and that’s what BG did.

We did not “win” anything.

A month of bad match ups and karma trains is a huge loss.
I have never seen a game so out of touch to the player base.

Maybe we make a set of real wvw servers without seasons, that also show player names and kill counts in zones. If you take an empty keep you get nothing.

dooger.2640:

We did not “win” anything.

A month of bad match ups and karma trains is a huge loss.
I have never seen a game so out of touch to the player base.

Maybe we make a set of real wvw servers without seasons, that also show player names and kill counts in zones. If you take an empty keep you get nothing.

Hire this guy, he gets it.

Hello Peetee,

I concur.

There was a 2008 RvR game with the same mechanic (it failed on other counts) but essentially you couldn’t cap the zone if there weren’t enough enemy players to defend. It also had kill spam and shared wxp for kills (meaning that it encouraged more solo kills). And a 400% wxp for severely outmanned. If Anet could implement this it would encourage more folks to spend time in outmanned maps.

Welldone BG, for winning Season 1. You played the meta to the ultimate end. /notroll.

FW

Peetee.9406:

dooger.2640:

Maybe we make a set of real wvw servers without seasons, that also show player names and kill counts in zones. If you take an empty keep you get nothing.

Hire this guy, he gets it.

Vixena.3821:

Another one of these self congratulating posts from BG? o.O

Wasn’t a congratulations to Blackgate, if you read anything it’s a thank you to all the guilds that we’ve fought against all through out the 7 weeks of leagues.

It’s been an amazing time for my guild & I, hope that Season 2 is just as fun

Gilgamesh.7364:

Vixena.3821:

Another one of these self congratulating posts from BG? o.O

Wasn’t a congratulations to Blackgate, if you read anything it’s a thank you to all the guilds that we’ve fought against all through out the 7 weeks of leagues.

It’s been an amazing time for my guild & I, hope that Season 2 is just as fun

Might have wanted to use a different title then. Not hatin’, just saying it kinda invites this sort of stuffs from both sides.

Aberrant.6749:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Vixena.3821:

Another one of these self congratulating posts from BG? o.O

Wasn’t a congratulations to Blackgate, if you read anything it’s a thank you to all the guilds that we’ve fought against all through out the 7 weeks of leagues.

It’s been an amazing time for my guild & I, hope that Season 2 is just as fun

Might have wanted to use a different title then. Not hatin’, just saying it kinda invites this sort of stuffs from both sides.

hope that helped

Gilgamesh.7364:

Vixena.3821:

Another one of these self congratulating posts from BG? o.O

Wasn’t a congratulations to Blackgate, if you read anything it’s a thank you to all the guilds that we’ve fought against all through out the 7 weeks of leagues.

It’s been an amazing time for my guild & I, hope that Season 2 is just as fun

I hope that there wont be a season 2, all the low end server of any league would just massive lose players. No one wants to get stomped for 5 out of 7 weeks.

Cinder.2056:

I hope that there wont be a season 2, all the low end server of any league would just massive lose players. No one wants to get stomped for 5 out of 7 weeks.

The ones who like a challenge will be there.

Zephyrus.9680:

Cinder.2056:

I hope that there wont be a season 2, all the low end server of any league would just massive lose players. No one wants to get stomped for 5 out of 7 weeks.

The ones who like a challenge will be there.

Unfortunately on lower pop server like IoJ or Nsp, those ones are just too few and far between. Nsp have some great wvw players who are always out there regardless of the match up, but when a zerg from a larger server shows up theres not much they could do.

Cinder.2056:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Vixena.3821:

Another one of these self congratulating posts from BG? o.O

Wasn’t a congratulations to Blackgate, if you read anything it’s a thank you to all the guilds that we’ve fought against all through out the 7 weeks of leagues.

It’s been an amazing time for my guild & I, hope that Season 2 is just as fun

I hope that there wont be a season 2, all the low end server of any league would just massive lose players. No one wants to get stomped for 5 out of 7 weeks.

your wrong, maguuma and sos went in to gold knowing they are against the odds, but still they fought hard and never waivered, thats heart.

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

Cinder.2056:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Vixena.3821:

Another one of these self congratulating posts from BG? o.O

Wasn’t a congratulations to Blackgate, if you read anything it’s a thank you to all the guilds that we’ve fought against all through out the 7 weeks of leagues.

It’s been an amazing time for my guild & I, hope that Season 2 is just as fun

I hope that there wont be a season 2, all the low end server of any league would just massive lose players. No one wants to get stomped for 5 out of 7 weeks.

your wrong, maguuma and sos went in to gold knowing they are against the odds, but still they fought hard and never waivered, thats heart.

Then good for them! But i can still assure you that many players on either end of the league did not have much fun facing against server with larger population disparity. Might not be the case for gold league, but it is what we have experienced in silver league.

gz on having most people ^^
and a quote because he get’s it

We did not “win” anything.
A month of bad match ups and karma trains is a huge loss.
I have never seen a game so out of touch to the player base.
Maybe we make a set of real wvw servers without seasons, that also show player names and kill counts in zones. If you take an empty keep you get nothing.

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Peetee,

I concur.

There was a 2008 RvR game with the same mechanic (it failed on other counts) but essentially you couldn’t cap the zone if there weren’t enough enemy players to defend. It also had kill spam and shared wxp for kills (meaning that it encouraged more solo kills). And a 400% wxp for severely outmanned. If Anet could implement this it would encourage more folks to spend time in outmanned maps.

Welldone BG, for winning Season 1. You played the meta to the ultimate end.

FW

Peetee.9406:

dooger.2640:

Maybe we make a set of real wvw servers without seasons, that also show player names and kill counts in zones. If you take an empty keep you get nothing.

Hire this guy, he gets it.

and how would you measure the winner then? how will you put objectives on such map that will keep players coming back? if you say by most kills then im sure spam 1 during zerg fights who spammed 1 the most wins, or people will just go nuts on aoe builds.

Hello Zeke,

I will assume that you are not trolling.

The game used a mix of objectives and kills to ‘cap a zone’. The formula was adjusted over a period of months. 99% of players never complained about zone caps or how it was done. I was on an ozzie server and EVERYBODY played the same meta, the solo cappers, small mans, guilds (including DiE, TRF, TKG, etc) and zergs. Every type of player was involved in the meta the developers set.

Even when one side was outnumbered, a small group of 5-10mans could prevent a zone cap, it brought some level of fairplay for outnumbered faction.

Btw the reason why the other game failed was due to buggy end game (worst sin), not the capture/ppt mechanics.

FW

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Peetee,

I concur.

There was a 2008 RvR game with the same mechanic (it failed on other counts) but essentially you couldn’t cap the zone if there weren’t enough enemy players to defend. It also had kill spam and shared wxp for kills (meaning that it encouraged more solo kills). And a 400% wxp for severely outmanned. If Anet could implement this it would encourage more folks to spend time in outmanned maps.

Welldone BG, for winning Season 1. You played the meta to the ultimate end.

FW

Peetee.9406:

dooger.2640:

Maybe we make a set of real wvw servers without seasons, that also show player names and kill counts in zones. If you take an empty keep you get nothing.

Hire this guy, he gets it.

and how would you measure the winner then? how will you put objectives on such map that will keep players coming back? if you say by most kills then im sure spam 1 during zerg fights who spammed 1 the most wins, or people will just go nuts on aoe builds.

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Zeke,

I will assume that you are not trolling.

The game used a mix of objectives and kills to ‘cap a zone’. The formula was adjusted over a period of months. 99% of players never complained about zone caps or how it was done. I was on an ozzie server and EVERYBODY played the same meta, the solo cappers, small mans, guilds (including DiE, TRF, TKG, etc) and zergs. Every type of player was involved in the meta the developers set.

Even when one side was outnumbered, a small group of 5-10mans could prevent a zone cap, it brought some level of fairplay for outnumbered faction.

Btw the reason why the other game failed was due to buggy end game (worst sin), not the capture/ppt mechanics.

FW

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Peetee,

I concur.

There was a 2008 RvR game with the same mechanic (it failed on other counts) but essentially you couldn’t cap the zone if there weren’t enough enemy players to defend. It also had kill spam and shared wxp for kills (meaning that it encouraged more solo kills). And a 400% wxp for severely outmanned. If Anet could implement this it would encourage more folks to spend time in outmanned maps.

Welldone BG, for winning Season 1. You played the meta to the ultimate end.

FW

Peetee.9406:

dooger.2640:

Maybe we make a set of real wvw servers without seasons, that also show player names and kill counts in zones. If you take an empty keep you get nothing.

Hire this guy, he gets it.

and how would you measure the winner then? how will you put objectives on such map that will keep players coming back? if you say by most kills then im sure spam 1 during zerg fights who spammed 1 the most wins, or people will just go nuts on aoe builds.

nope not trolling, just asking what you think would be the basis for such gameplay and what would keep people from playing it. i understand your point but also when we say WVW it means zerg, what your saying is also still possible today with 8-10man can defend a tower or keep even prevent a zerg, TW is known for one of the best defenders i have ever come across.

so somewhere your saying is like the gameplay similar to that of League of Legends dominion?

Hello Zeke,

Thanks for the kind compliment of TW, I enjoy the tactical gameplay and mindset of the leadership very much. I am a kitten with competent WvW leadership and direction in a guild.

I have not played League of Legends unfortunately. I played Warhammer, it’s very similar to GW2’s WvW in style, but not in form/function.

About small mans play like WAR, let say if PPT was dependent on holding X number of camps and Y number of keeps (for a lack of examples), a small 10 man could possible disrupt PPT by taking a camp short of X. That would give the smaller faction a fighting chance. That was how Warhammer was done. Of course if the enemy could fill every objective with 20+ man that would be on rare occasions (which was Waha/Wawa of JQ). And even with that nobody complained about zergs vs small mans.

FW

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Zeke,

I will assume that you are not trolling.

The game used a mix of objectives and kills to ‘cap a zone’. The formula was adjusted over a period of months. 99% of players never complained about zone caps or how it was done. I was on an ozzie server and EVERYBODY played the same meta, the solo cappers, small mans, guilds (including DiE, TRF, TKG, etc) and zergs. Every type of player was involved in the meta the developers set.

Even when one side was outnumbered, a small group of 5-10mans could prevent a zone cap, it brought some level of fairplay for outnumbered faction.

Btw the reason why the other game failed was due to buggy end game (worst sin), not the capture/ppt mechanics.

FW

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Peetee,

I concur.

There was a 2008 RvR game with the same mechanic (it failed on other counts) but essentially you couldn’t cap the zone if there weren’t enough enemy players to defend. It also had kill spam and shared wxp for kills (meaning that it encouraged more solo kills). And a 400% wxp for severely outmanned. If Anet could implement this it would encourage more folks to spend time in outmanned maps.

Welldone BG, for winning Season 1. You played the meta to the ultimate end.

FW

Peetee.9406:

dooger.2640:

Maybe we make a set of real wvw servers without seasons, that also show player names and kill counts in zones. If you take an empty keep you get nothing.

Hire this guy, he gets it.

and how would you measure the winner then? how will you put objectives on such map that will keep players coming back? if you say by most kills then im sure spam 1 during zerg fights who spammed 1 the most wins, or people will just go nuts on aoe builds.

nope not trolling, just asking what you think would be the basis for such gameplay and what would keep people from playing it. i understand your point but also when we say WVW it means zerg, what your saying is also still possible today with 8-10man can defend a tower or keep even prevent a zerg, TW is known for one of the best defenders i have ever come across.

so somewhere your saying is like the gameplay similar to that of League of Legends dominion?

zoombi.1498:

grats to buygate!

I gotta ask, bro…

I would also like to thank the rest of the servers who played this season to the end. Unfortunately, it wasn’t the best season possible but that would be none of our faults. Hopefully if ArenaNet makes another season, then it will be fair and more appealing to other servers and players.

Thanks for all the fights, drama, laughs, and ultimately a well-deserved first place.

Dale Rojo.7485:

zoombi.1498:

grats to buygate!

I gotta ask, bro…

I love this winner wins mentality, no matter how you get there.
when you are there pull out the smugness.

Go Murica! ^^

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Dale Rojo.7485:

zoombi.1498:

grats to buygate!

I gotta ask, bro…

I love this winner wins mentality, no matter how you get there.
when you are there pull out the smugness.

Go Murica! ^^

Troll statement. Leave America out of it. We enjoy a fair game as much as anyone. We enjoy -underdogs- who pull out amazing feats even more.

Do we like how things were stacked? I think the consensus is No. Did many servers fight on, even fight harder, because of it? Yes! So here’s to the underdogs, who fight hard to the bitter end. /.salute

I would also like to thank the guilds on SOR, TC, and JQ servers that we fought. A lot of really good fights against some kitten impressive guilds.
I dont like seeing all of the hate against BG that I see on the forums, there were not any tactics that BG employed that any of the other T1 servers didnt do as well. Trashing your competitors just reflects poorly on you.
I do hope to see arenanet tweak some things so that the next season will be better. I have some complaints about the meta achievements pulling people away from structured combat, and maybe some sort of server merging will help other servers keep up the same kind of around the clock coverage that BG has. Otherwise, I really enjoyed this season, especially the first couple of weeks. I’m personally looking forward to a season 2!

cheers to SOR, TC, SOR and BG!

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Dale Rojo.7485:

zoombi.1498:

grats to buygate!

I gotta ask, bro…

I love this winner wins mentality, no matter how you get there.
when you are there pull out the smugness.

Go Murica! ^^

Or rather, troll post gets a troll reply. That zoombi guy has been in every BG thread crying about us “buying” guilds.

Congrats BG, may your bread be warm and toasty.

Overtime is OP! Nerf BG for playing overtime!