Guild Wars 2

Seems like there has been no shortage of action so far. Friday night had some great fights leading up to us taking Anvil Rocks orb (but it was gone in the morning).

Lots of ganking targets wandering about in SF borderlands as well as packs of 10+ bots farming krait which my guild took the liberty of exterminating

Looking forward to the action tomorrow and throughout the week but it is pretty clear SF has a strong population around the clock that will be tough to match. I will see if I can have my guild focus on SF but I seriously doubt either Anvil Rock or Borlis Pass will be able to organize any kind of non aggression pact if two weeks ago has anything to say about it.

Also, dirtyklingon and Plok need to get a room for kittens sake

ya sundial we should make a pact. I’m sure some ppl from Anvil Rock will go with the pact. SF is just too much. i did have have a good laugh one night when i had 3 ppl from SF on me i killed one and down the 2nd one and the 3rd one killed me and someone from BP help out and finsh the last guy off.

Sundial.9015:

it is pretty clear SF has a strong population around the clock that will be tough to match

i wish we had such a strong population round the clock when we lost to darkhaven..or gate of madness..or henge of denravi (tho tbh that was never going to end well lol)

i notice we only have people on when were winning. our ‘massive’ pop doesnt do much against a well organized server (or one with any level of night presence that outmatches ours)

as someone else said earlier, theres a reason why we’ve been bumped down to this tier :(

aKIRA.7123:

Sundial.9015:

it is pretty clear SF has a strong population around the clock that will be tough to match

i wish we had such a strong population round the clock when we lost to darkhaven..or gate of madness..or henge of denravi (tho tbh that was never going to end well lol)

i notice we only have people on when were winning. our ‘massive’ pop doesnt do much against a well organized server (or one with any level of night presence that outmatches ours)

as someone else said earlier, theres a reason why we’ve been bumped down to this tier

I think a lot of servers suffer from the same fair weather wvw players.

i was unnecessarily rude to plok last night, though it’s interesting what his perception is vs many of the rest of us here.

anyways, i apologize to plok and GOAT. i’m sure they’re a fine guild and i’m sure plok does more than just pug zerg sometimes.

i am uploading video now form last night of my guild vs furnace with 7-10 people fighting outnumbered. should be interesting. hopefully one o fmy guildies who do video got their own footage as they are much better at making video than i am(better players too)

Best thing that both AR and BP can do is to agree to keep commanders/real forces out of each others BL’s and section of EB and try to pincer green between the two sides. I think it’s clear with the number of fronts they can hit, it is in both servers interests, regardless of placing to do this. As long as representatives from both sides can pass the message to their respective servers. I would, but I am just one guy in a small guild that does runs on camps and the occasional tower. However, I can try to make AR aware that we are only going west off EB and staying out of BP BL. No assurance from my server mates, but I am more than willing to keep my guild from hitting red or red sections.

BTW there’s 5 bots right now in the SF Borderland waters farming krait right now. Feel free to take them out.

Well as of right now BP is invading AR’s borderlands…Yes i do realize that we(AR) had a commander in BP’s borderlands recently and he failed to take anything so left…Sorrow’s borderland is purely theirs…and they have majority of EB right now..so my server and BP are not being smart at the moment..but one of our commanders…same one who failed in BP just now, says ‘an enemy is an enemey, we do not help them’….so yea.

sarah xiii.3905:

Well as of right now BP is invading AR’s borderlands…Yes i do realize that we(AR) had a commander in BP’s borderlands recently and he failed to take anything so left…Sorrow’s borderland is purely theirs…and they have majority of EB right now..so my server and BP are not being smart at the moment..but one of our commanders…same one who failed in BP just now, says ‘an enemy is an enemey, we do not help them’….so yea.

You cannot have a commander run inside a SF keep and flank us while we are on inner door and NOT expect retaliation. Also the trying to hide and secret cap us was pretty cute. GL next time.

Nalivan.6451:

sarah xiii.3905:

Well as of right now BP is invading AR’s borderlands…Yes i do realize that we(AR) had a commander in BP’s borderlands recently and he failed to take anything so left…Sorrow’s borderland is purely theirs…and they have majority of EB right now..so my server and BP are not being smart at the moment..but one of our commanders…same one who failed in BP just now, says ‘an enemy is an enemey, we do not help them’….so yea.

You cannot have a commander run inside a SF keep and flank us while we are on inner door and NOT expect retaliation. Also the trying to hide and secret cap us was pretty cute. GL next time.

Oh no dont get me wrong, i agree with you. That was my point. The commander doing that caused the retaliation, i know. It was stupid of him

I was hoping for a real fun WvW week but the people in my server B.P. has already shown they got no kitten. Well only our bots seems to have any.

crafterss guild made a different thread to qq about us going after them this match, same guild that broke last match’s truce.

but his guild alone doesn’t explain why plok was getting double teamed, considering plok wasn’t on AR BL friday night, that was BPA guilds gettign pushed into a corner by furnace and ar zergs while furnace was busy taking the map behind AR focusing on us.

which is why AR is so cute when they blame us, because they always have sided with green against us every match. so forgive BPA guilds if we went directly for you guys this time, because it would be silly to assume you would do anything other than go straight after us yet again.

anyways had an issue with the video, reupping now. just a teaser is it’s on SF BL… probably not my best video due to some derping later in the evening, but demonstrates why i’m tired of hearing people complain about being outnumbered.

correction: i double checked the thread from the crafters guy, he wasn’t complaining about double teaming, he was complaining about spies and being double crossed by sbzy.

which is deliciously ironic considering what they(crafters) pulled last match.

dirtyklingon.2918:

correction: i double checked the thread from the crafters guy, he wasn’t complaining about double teaming, he was complaining about spies and being double crossed by sbzy.

which is deliciously ironic considering what they(crafters) pulled last match.

I really don’t understand the whole “spies” fiasco, silva tried to work with AR in order for both of us to hit bay at same time. Eventually we did it but AR got wiped out and didnt move back but just gave up.

all his screen shot has is silvas asking for AR to move away from a borlis tower and the recipient/op laughing at him.

he doesn’t specify what the double cross was, or what the arrangement that led to said double cross was.

but we can tell it’s the crafter guild, who during the last match vs ar and nsp we saw decide to end the truce in order to farm our objectives for karma and exp. strangely enough that zerg supposedly included the guy who asked for the truce in teh first place.

here’s the promised video. we basically have ummm i think 10 tops in teh first part holding down the camp out side our base against the guys that were holding the tower on SF BL.

i kinda derped and toggled off my fraps recording a couple times during the second part, the first cut there only misses a few seconds. there’s also a part where i decided i would split off from my group to kill a yak solo, but by that time SF was mostly just sending groups of 2-3 people at a time at us for some reason idk why.

anyways, gg to SF guys that brought it to us last night. we salute you. and thanks to the one pug iirc that was with us for a little while there, you did well thinking in portals with us.

Hello All. I am Clinquer from Sorrows Furnace Terror[TG] Guild. I was apart of the massive siege last night where we took Longview and placed 6 Treb’s on top. I would like to say that the accusations of Hacking is false. RIFT guild had built those down at the supply camp and ran them up. I was on one of the trebs hitting the fully fortified wall’s. Can mesmers teleport a golem a distance? I think they can, though I am unsure. I will however say that we did not port them inside one bit, we got them to the front gate and they beat down the gate. From there we did not do what everyone does and rush middle once inside, we actually went to the side upon entry and destroyed that gate. The person that was buying things at the merchant probably did not expect us to come from the side rather than the middle therefore I could see why you may think those golems were hacked in. Just please be aware of your surroundings before saying that Sorrows Furnace is a hacking server. We dealt with that heavy against Gates of Madness last week. I personally report people who I remotely think are hacking or exploiting, and let aNet sort out the false from the true.

People like to ride the coat tails of the successful guilds in WvW and enter when they see us winning. That is what is happing to us right now. 3 weeks ago we had an amazing battle with Darkhaven and Sanctum of Rall. The next 2 weeks we were completely smashed, woke up to having 0 point accumulations and just overall our morale was in the dirt.

I can only hope that with this victory comes more active WvW players who actually see how fun it is and we can continue to push. We do have a higher population I think than your guys servers, but I see TONS of organization with our commanders and almost no bickering in team/map chats.

Sorrows will win this week, just dont give up, borlis has a lot of potential. We all do. These have been some amazingly fun fights, and I think since server matchup I have accrued over 30 hours game time in WvW alone haha.

Keep up the good work, dont fight, get organized, and we will see you on the battlefield!

P.S- Hats off to GOAT for their massive guild appearance last night, you stomped me a few times haha.

Sincerely~ The big norn engineer with bright pink and gray colors.

I like how Sorrows had to use 6 Treb’s to take our little Borlis server last night. Amazing how our server IS the biggest threat in WvW LOL!

I could not stop laughing, and I’m still laughing.

Oh, and don’t worry about finding us on the map with your Guild Spies looking for our commanders, we’ve decided to no longer use the icon so you can not locate them.

Thanks for the props, Chewie!

::sigh:: starting yet another flame war is going to accomplish NOTHING. People, please quit trolling this thread and make better use of your time defending/capping keeps… That is all.

http://imgur.com/a/vfzP0#0 Golem Siege Saturday the 13th

Oh Noes! Imgur overload! I blame Balranar

They agreed to double team a SF keep with us, then they ganked us from behind. They said they wouldn’t attack us, at first they didn’t, waited for us to be weakened, then ran us over. They had agreed to give us keep in exchange for orb. They failed to live up to their promise, so my guild personally runs them over during their attacks if we see them. There is no alliance to be made. They already double crossed us when we attempted to.

On that note, my guild and others managed to hold about half the map in Borlis Pass Borderlands last night for roughly 5 hours. Great job guys. Our guild siege suit army is being built up right now.

@Crawford- Well, yea it was excessive to have that many trebs. However, there are really only 3 major differences between high ranked servers, and low ranked servers.

1. Stable WvW Population.
2. Organization
3. Not afraid to spend money on siege/upgrades.

Sorrows is not afraid to spend the money on siege and upgrades(at least our guild), and we really have amazing organization as a whole. What our server lacks is the steady population.

So. If you (as in all servers) are failing in one of those aspects, make up for it with the other 2!

~Clinquer

BP control your population, repeatedly attacking Umber and then attacking Bravost while we are trying to defend Durios isn’t really a good faith move on your servers part especially when you don’t have 2 of your own towers and supply up north.

You are STILL in our BL and still attacking our corner of EB. If this is how we both servers attack green, by AR hitting green and BP hitting AR, I think I may change my map chat over to hit red first, and only red instead of the opposite.

@chewie, newsflash bro, you’re fighting Borlis Pass, welcome to the bottom

@dovgan, was there a truce that no one knew about?

No , just happy to see your server playing hard for second.

Borlis is coming on strong against our borderlands, just took our fully upgraded Shadaran Hills :*( Time to retake and build it up again! CHAARRGGEEE

Second Place is the first loser. May the best first loser win! =P

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Well, BP just took our garrison in SF borderlands, but the waypoint still allowed us to teleport, even after the keep was contested. Unfortunately, I cannot speak for our server, but I’m sorry it was bugged for you guys. The keep was definitely yours, and you should have been able to hold it after that sneaky attack you pulled off. Just know that some of the people defending there with me who died as you knocked down the inner gate feel the same way.

This bug has to be fixed asap.

Evalana.5480:

Second Place is the first loser. May the best first loser win! =P

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Unless you are the top server you are all losers then.

epicsmooth.7825:

Evalana.5480:

Second Place is the first loser. May the best first loser win! =P

<3

Unless you are the top server you are all losers then.

Sorrows Furnace #1

Hello everyone! Ioved wvw in eternal bg this weekend and wanted to thank anvil rock and Borlis for restoring my love for pvp. TSFR RULES!

Devinchi.2756:

Well, BP just took our garrison in SF borderlands, but the waypoint still allowed us to teleport, even after the keep changed to their color. Unfortunately, I cannot speak for our server, but I’m sorry it was bugged for you guys. The keep was definitely yours, and you should have been able to hold it after that sneaky attack you pulled off. Just know that some of the people defending there with me who died as you knocked down the inner gate feel the same way.

This bug has to be fixed asap.

We NEVER took the garrison i know because i was in there. we grabbed the orb and had him run while we try to cap the garrison. After you all used the waypoint bug we realised we could not cap and called the retreat. But we got the orb and that is all that mattered to us.

Yeah, that’s y bad. I thought you were green. I’m used to being red from last week. Regardless, we were able to waypoint in despite the fact it was clearly contested. And that shouldn’t happen.

I wanted to chime in about this bug. It may have been bugged in that the duration between becoming available to port in and not was longer than normal. But it should be public knowledge that a keep can be ported to once the defense quest ends. When it ends there is a small (usually) window where you can port to the keep. Then it becomes contested again. AFAIK, this is as intended.

I want to thank my GOAT’s, SOUL, KREW & SBZY and all the others for helping do all we were able to do today. If you are tired of seeing my giant norn smash into you, come back tomorrow and ill do it again. I’m sure everything I led and we busted our azzes for today will be night capped, oh well nice fights today.

For the record, there was no truce I knew about. Almost everything I attacked today was a green item and that was my plan. may want to discuss things with some of those Anvil guilds should you actually be serious about such a thing. Like maybe [BG], man those guys sure know how to run away.

had a great evening fighting SF mainly in AR borderlands. i think we saved AR a couple times there.

got some video of us messing with SF’s heads and i’ll upload it tomorrow. i think at some points they were bringing 4:1 odds against us lol. good times. anyways video will go up in the morning.

stopped by SF map just before logging out and some serious action going on there. we didn’t go there at first due to queue but i guess just about a half hour ago 45 minutes there was no longer a queue for us there. some crazy SF zerg coming at us from the some reason and word of another coming from the north. looked like a good time but i need my beauty rest.

Chewie.1249:

Sorrows is not afraid to spend the money on siege and upgrades(at least our guild), and we really have amazing organization as a whole. What our server lacks is the steady population.

As someone from SF I think this is a load of kitten. If we had organization, where was it last week or the week before? We have a zerg and when we outnumber we are great, we have commanders all over the place directing the zerg here and there. The moment we are in a losing match… wvw is a dead zone, no commanders to be found and all the so called WvW guilds talking about how they are all transferring.

News flash, you do not get better playing un-challenging matches and then quitting every match that is a challenge. Until I see SF sticking through a loss, growing from it and getting better, we are nothing but a half rate, second from the bottom tier, zerg server. I see more organization from our opponents who would likely be kicking our kitten if they had equal numbers.

Not sure why you folks are fighting over who’s top dog in this bracket. Unless there is some massive population change, it should go like this.

Sorrow’s Furnace and Emery Bay will trade places weekly. While Borlis Pass stays in last or trades with Ferguson’s Crossing.

Maybe we can work out a truce for next week, and see how things go.

-K

Niim read my post from earlier today. We are high population right now because we are winning, I said I hope to see our morale carry over to next weeks matchup.

As a whole, yes, sorrows furnace is organized. There are moments where it’s not. We out populate BP and AR. But are far in the lesser end of WvW population than the tiers above us.

Is this an un-challenging matchup? I wouldn’t say that at all. We just have the WvW population. (this is less challenging than the brackets above however) BP and AR are both good servers.

I will stick 100% by my 3 reasons there are differences in brackets. Population, Organization, Money (willingness to spend).

Don’t pick apart a small portion of a post, when the overall picture means everything.

~Clinquer

The previous servers that have passed thru here are all getting stuck two tiers above us. They dominate here, do well in the tier above us and then hit a wall 2 tiers up. All 3, NSP, YB and DH have won here by sheer numbers alone. I don’t foresee any of our future matches being any tougher than those 3 were for 4 straight weeks. Believe it or not, AR is having fun this week.

-K

My guild actively avoided pushing on important Anvil Rock supply camps and objectives and for the most part we didn’t see Anvil interfering with us either.

Though we did gank a few groups and get ganked a couple times ourselves

Even though there is no formal pact I feel like this is the best option for our two servers to at least make an effort to avoid taking eachothers important objectives or making a sandwhich out of anyone who is not SF (and we made a kitten fine SF sandwhich earlier when they were assaulting your tower)

Lots of good fights were had tonight @ SF borderlands.

Sundial.9015:

My guild actively avoided pushing on important Anvil Rock supply camps and objectives and for the most part we didn’t see Anvil interfering with us either.

Though we did gank a few groups and get ganked a couple times ourselves

Even though there is no formal pact I feel like this is the best option for our two servers to at least make an effort to avoid taking eachothers important objectives or making a sandwhich out of anyone who is not SF (and we made a kitten fine SF sandwhich earlier when they were assaulting your tower)

Lots of good fights were had tonight @ SF borderlands.

AR attacked positions on us all day long.

@dirtyklingon @Plok -> Good to see that you guys are stilling accusing us of focusing on you. Sorry if we can’t control our pug. And we all know your pug never attack us.

PuGs will attack everything, or people will karma train in what ever map. Don’t be angry about that. It happens for us, it happens for you.

Sunday morning, we started with a 2 man group that grew up a lot, and took over EB one by one. SF was sleeping prolly( I found your weakness SF! The only time we can dominate is during Week end morning! :P). We even got SM, and it doesn’t happen often for our server.

We started taking more camp/tower near green spawn. We encountered the BP army, made some gesture, and they went their way. Nice job there.

Sadly, another group of BP built a trebuchet and started raining fire on our SM. Green woke up and did the same thing from the other side.

But no bad feeling here, it’s SM everyone want it, I won’t accuse BP of anything cause this thing happen!

This week is great! We have some great fight and we had some organisation this week end. More commander started to pop up, which is a good thing.

We won’t finish first, but the 2nd and 3rd place might be clsoe this week. It’s going to be fun!

Let’s continu like this everyone!

kardiamodn the reason it’s not that i’m accusing you or whining about it. it’s that i find it funny because on the forums your people make overtures to us about working together or attacking you or w/e. so you know irony. i guess that makes me a hipster.

HoM was in AR borderlands last night helping you guys fend off SF zergs until your guys decided to focus on us instead. was funny cuz BP had only a tower you seemed unable to take back(by our spawn) while green dominated most of your map.

anyways was pretty fun, we were trying some new stuff and in terms of seeing if our new ideas work or not it was mission accomplished.

i might go see if i got anything from when we moved over to SF at the end of the evening but i seem to recall not recording much of it so idk. basically big AR zerg i guess coming from the south side while idk what sf was doing, but maybe i have that mixed up not sure but i was getting tired and not reading name plates by that point.

this was a fun battle last night to cap the night off. too bad for us you guys had siege trained on teh bridge and we lacked the numbers at that location to feasibly take that tower.

pretty fun battle all around, you guys pushed us back to our tower and then i logged off due to time of night, but all around good battle.

but yeah i guess this confirms it was SF from the south not AR like i was confused about.

Holy Hell, 4 hours of pushing on Bay in SF borderlands and still cant get it. Good freaking job anvil. Time for errands :O

~Clinquer

Just treb them all the way

oh we did continuously lol.