Guild Wars 2

Last night in the borderlands we had an invincible dev that could switch classes and sides at will. He switched to guardian for stability, then to mesmer so he could port a full tc map queue into an upgraded bay. Stood around in the lord room mocking us, switching from JQ to BG to TC while they worked on inner. Never seen anything quite like it, and clearly an abuse of power.

The first ss shows him being invincible, the last three his ability to switch sides at will.

Not sure if this is a real dev but if so I he must be fed up with WvW also ;P

Probably he wanted to test some stuff, he might have went to EOTM but enemy karma traint went trough him ignoring it as a target, so he decided to play the test on the useless WvW.

Wow, that is unbelievable. If it wasn’t for the screenshots I wouldn’t think it was true. Did you get his account name at the very least? You could block him and find out if it was a GM or not from his character name. I was going to say that it was perhaps a GM looking to observe wrongdoing or the general game experience, but porting in an entire zerg? Wow. This is perhaps one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen in wvw, and I’ve seen some really bizarre stuff.

And that is definitely a real dev or GM. The icon doesn’t lie. One thing that actually occurred to me that makes me laugh a little: what if someone hacked his account? That would make this all twice as hilarious.

Probably a left over from the ‘adopt a dev’ who forgot to log in during the season and was moved to spvp afterwards, and wanted to see what happens in wvw…

I’m not so sure on this I mean surely if a Dev wanted to make a keep turn another color they could do it a lot easier and discreet by flicking some figurative switch behind the scenes?

its the only way they can test things in a real enviroment without closing the servers and hiring many testers or doing other closed test , without being facerolled.

also it could do with visual evidence of the no white swords collecting real information.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

its the only way they can test things in a real enviroment without closing the servers and hiring many testers or doing other closed test , without being facerolled.

also it could do with visual evidence of the no white swords collecting real information.

I hope you are sarcastic.

Also waiting for a red spot(if thread doesn’t get deleted even).

I saved it just in case though – https://archive.today/OcNP3

I’m wondering why you didn’t take pics of the supposed portal that he did. Ever think that he is investigating reports (which they can be invincible if they want) and that’s why he’s standing there.

I’m not saying he didn’t cheat but you have very little to back up your claim.

Odd, but still in your pictures it seems like the enemy zerg is coming from the “front door”, that’s the direction everyone is taking to head to the lord.

You only showed pictures of him changing sides between JC, TC and BG. However there’s none of this ability to “change professions”. Well guess we’ll have to wait for the red post :/

ghost.3208:

Odd, but still in your pictures it seems like the enemy zerg is coming from the “front door”, that’s the direction everyone is taking to head to the lord.

You only showed pictures of him changing sides between JC, TC and BG. However there’s none of this ability to “change professions”. Well guess we’ll have to wait for the red post :/

Also he said “upgraded bay” when the first picture while he still own bay shows that it’s a paper bay (0/500 depot). I think he is exagerating…

All we see is the guy just standing there, changing sides and doing nothing…

Hmm last week 3 devs run with Dgins in EOTM. All 3 were able to be hit, die, be rezzed etc. They were in my zerg and nothing funny went on there.

Your pics show conditions on him in first one. AFter that just standing around watching. nothing to show him porting zergs in, etc..

Probably switching server to let others know not to bother with the dev(?).

Why is his name “Blackgate Invader” when on friendly team?

Trick.9370:

Probably switching server to let others know not to bother with the dev(?).

Could have sworn dev’s have the ability to be invisible if they aren’t playing. Even if he didn’t use hacks and port people in he shouldn’t be standing there screwing with people.

Or a hacked dev account?

Or someone investigating a reported issue?

Funny how people always complain about the lack of devs/GMs/whatever in game, and yet when they actually end up in game to check out issues (that people also complain about them never doing) people start shouting about abusing powers and cheating.

Upgraded bay? Screenshot saying 0/500 wich is not upgraded at all. Screenshots do not provide any evidence about the zerg being ported in. So im guessing the OP just seeing ghosts as there is nothing abnormal about any screenshot.

I am still trying to see how this is an abuse of power OP, they are dev’s, they can flip from one server to another as an observers or to perform some command actions for somethign they saw, it is a valid reason to set invunerable for a few secs to type those necessary commands.

Proly was observing both servers gameplay, he was tagged up, in the SS looks like players decided to atack him like it would drop a chest with precursors, instead of defend the shrine/ castle.

OP is just salty about the GM powers being displayed so brazenly. It tends to appear god-like and feel like cheating to players without those powers, especially when the observers have become immersed in the existent rules as a world that they’re experiencing.

The only abuse the screenshots show is a bit of callousness toward that. Normally, the GMs hide their power, to not be disruptive in that way. Dev probably did violate some office policies.

My guess is the gm was investigating who ever was doing the porting. Either he forgot to turn on the invisible powers or something technical went wrong.

OP, if he switched sides, who did he cheat for?

Your making a knee jerk reaction accusation, without providing evidence that he did anything to turn the tide for one side or the other. Secondly, given all of the cryers complaining that devs need to pay more attention to WvW, you sure are having a negative effect on that. One shows up and you label them a “cheater” and fling accusations.

Worst part, is I feel the OP is lying. They claim the character in question and professions, yet has no evidence of that. As well, what does changing sides have to do with anything, they are not fighting once changing sides.

Posters like the OP are what hurt the game. They make a conscience effort to accuse every Anet person in game if some insidious or nefarious deed, then cry that the game mode doesn’t get enough attention.

I would try to explain what’s wrong with someone who is invulnerable and swapping teams in a competitive environment, but that would be a waste of time since anyone defending it is clearly beyond any reasonable or cohesive thoughts.

Nokaru.7831:

I would try to explain what’s wrong with someone who is invulnerable and swapping teams in a competitive environment, but that would be a waste of time since anyone defending it is clearly beyond any reasonable or cohesive thoughts.

No, go right ahead. Lay out your structured argument for why a GM shouldn’t have these abilities and why it is a flagrant foul to be seen GMing.

Nokaru.7831:

I would try to explain what’s wrong with someone who is invulnerable and swapping teams in a competitive environment, but that would be a waste of time since anyone defending it is clearly beyond any reasonable or cohesive thoughts.

Some would defend it, but mostly because they are not bothered to be angry about it. It’s a “mistakes happen” moment. It isn’t a mistake that should happen, but that’s the nature of mistakes.

lol. Dev uses Signet if Resolve in WvW. What a scruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuub.

I would also like to see evidence of him porting in the zerg. The screenshots don’t say much. It is a bit odd to just have him standing there switching sides and being invul, but without evidence of him actually doing something wrong as in actual cheating (porting a zerg in) I’m hesitant to say he was there to do something bad. I’m leaning towards either:

a) Hacked dev account who did port in the zerg
b) GM who made a mistake and forgot to make himself invisible
c) Includes b, but maybe another player did cheat and port a zerg in and someone reported them. GM shows up to check it out. Not sure what the switching sides thing is about, though. I’ve got nothing for that.

Those screenshots were taken AFTER he ported in the zerg to flip our upgraded bay and we fought to take bay back. Another Anet dev in the BG TS saw this with his own eyes. The Dev in channel told us to post a thread about it.

I really like the people who keeps saying the guy “forgot to make himself invisible” after he was being attacked and nuked by many players. He sure didn’t forget how to swap his team though.

This thread makes my brain hurt.

Nokaru.7831:

I really like the people who keeps saying the guy “forgot to make himself invisible” after he was being attacked and nuked by many players. He sure didn’t forget how to swap his team though.

This thread makes my brain hurt.

Judging the evidence while ignoring the hear say. That causing your brain to hurt is irrelevant to how evidence-based judgement should work.

Virtute.8251:

Judging the evidence while ignoring the hear say. That causing your brain to hurt is irrelevant to how evidence-based judgement should work.

• He was in World vs. World while unkillable with live players.
• He wasn’t invisible.
• He knew he wasn’t invisible because people were attacking him.
• While being aware of all of the above, he changed his teams twice.

If he didn’t want to disrupt the play of their customers, he would have made himself invisible. Most, if not all Game Masters are invisible. This guy was either incredibly stupid or being intentionally disruptive.

I’m not going by any hearsay of “swapping to Mesmer” and “portaling people in.” The things above are things he shouldn’t have been doing. If he was “testing something”, they have their own internal testing environment for that. Why? So it doesn’t disrupt live players.

How long ago did this happen? Because a bug was fixed yesterday where players could use Orphan Laine’s Letter to become invincible in wvw/pvp. The dev/gm could have been testing to confirm it.

Michael Henninger.7451:

Give me 10 minutes to write up my response. =) I’m the “cheating Dev”.

LOL. The guy in charge of finding the cheaters.

I’m sure there is a good reason, but maybe you could tell people what you’re doing.

Michael Henninger.7451:

Give me 10 minutes to write up my response. =) I’m the “cheating Dev”.

You still owe me a loot bag! I was the thief backstabbing you on the wall. Nearly downed you and suddenly you’re friendly. :P

Interesting to see what a GM can do ingame though!

Nokaru.7831:

Virtute.8251:

Judging the evidence while ignoring the hear say. That causing your brain to hurt is irrelevant to how evidence-based judgement should work.

• He was in World vs. World while unkillable with live players.
• He wasn’t invisible.
• He knew he wasn’t invisible because people were attacking him.
• While being aware of all of the above, he changed his teams twice.

If he didn’t want to disrupt the play of their customers, he would have made himself invisible. Most, if not all Game Masters are invisible. This guy was either incredibly stupid or being intentionally disruptive.

I’m not going by any hearsay of “swapping to Mesmer” and “portaling people in.” The things above are things he shouldn’t have been doing. If he was “testing something”, they have their own internal testing environment for that. Why? So it doesn’t disrupt live players.

That’s just it.

I have an entirely different judgement of your bulleted facts. To my view, his disruption was a mistake unworthy of vitriol. It’s even somewhat amusing.

Please tell me you’re going to be cracking down on cheaters.

PM me if you want to know the name of someone who has been cheating for over a year and a half straight non stop. He is cheating constantly and doesn’t turn this exploit off. He laughs about it because he’s been doing it for so long without being banned and even makes fun of Anet for it.

Reporting this individual with 100% proof videos, or having literally HUNDREDS of people reporting him has done nothing.

Michael, it looks like you need a spectator mode without your own character model being rendered. The match interference is in the fact that for whatever team you’re currently flagged as, the opponent teams will try to kill you with extreme prejudice. That alters their decision making, and causes group leaders to lose control of their teams.

I originally called it a mistake because I felt that the above should be obvious in deciding how such a GM account would interface.

Furthermore, the visibility of your GM guild tag is going to alter the behavior of nearby baddies.

Michael Henninger.7451:

Add me! Account is in my sig.

Added you! Thank you. I hope this is resolved soon!

Well, I was close on b and c I guess. And it makes sense that you wouldn’t make yourself invisible because people might be wondering who the hell is talking in say/map chat if you had to say something and they can’t see them (and then assume it really is a hacker). Same goes with the team switching.

Glad to have you around, Mike.

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

Well, I was close on b and c I guess. And it makes sense that you wouldn’t make yourself invisible because people might be wondering who the hell is talking in say/map chat if you had to say something and they can’t see them (and then assume it really is a hacker). Same goes with the team switching.

Glad to have you around, Mike.

It wouldn’t necessarily be strange for a user named “GM whatever” to type into chat as a “ghost in the machine”. All of us who are aware of admin or GM powers know that “ghost in the machine” is precisely their role in system. It would only feel weird to people with no concept of that fact, and even then it would be a short-lived strangeness. They would learn that it is normal here.

I doubt that it would need to happen often, if at all.

Michael Henninger.7451:

During a fight we’re switched to friendly to all unless there is chat we need to monitor, then we go invis. Watch us in action and you’ll see we actually don’t get in the way. The screenshot above was taken after bay was turned and the team had no hostiles. I was showing them how the tool worked and assuring them that I wouldn’t die and drop loot bags.

So I can go back to laughing about this moment.

Now I kinda wonder who the other GM was. The one in BG TS who said that this thread should be made.