Claiming Towers to avoid buffs - griefing?

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Posted by: Noerknhar.3826

Noerknhar.3826

Q:

Just so that I know, if you really hate your server because you are kittened or something and start claiming towers and strongholds just so that other guilds cant claim them (such blocking buffs and such), is that some kind of griefing that you can be reported for?

Official post would be appreciated.

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Posted by: DevonCarver.5370

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A:

It sounds annoying, but it doesn’t rise to the level of griefing in the sense that we could or would take action. We try not to get involved without rock solid proof of someone doing we feel is worthy of a ban or suspension. Not only would this likely never quite attain that level, it would be incredibly difficult to prove the intent behind any action like this. We would rather err on the side of caution in these instances.

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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

I don’t think it can be proven. Proof is the problem that we have. We all know it, the GM probly knows it, but if it can’t really be proven, I don’t think anything will be done.

Something needs to be added in so that when a structure is claimed, any buffs that the guild has available is automatically implemented and it should be certain buffs(not the extra supply buff) that counts. If said buffs are not available, the structure should become available to claim and the previous guild without buffs that claimed should be prevented from claiming for a min amount of time.

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Posted by: Stonewall.6037

Stonewall.6037

Devon, this week, while journeying to complete the map, I came upon 4 people from 2 different guilds doing serial stomping of each other in WvW (we killed 2 of them).

I think the points-for-stomp system will be abused.

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Posted by: TheAmpca.1753

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It sounds annoying, but it doesn’t rise to the level of griefing in the sense that we could or would take action. We try not to get involved without rock solid proof of someone doing we feel is worthy of a ban or suspension. Not only would this likely never quite attain that level, it would be incredibly difficult to prove the intent behind any action like this. We would rather err on the side of caution in these instances.

I think what he is asking for is better ways of dealing with stuff like this. Where say your guild can claim a keep but others can claim it from you after X amount of time multiplied by how beneficial your claim is to the keep. So with our current options that would just be a flat out Time * #of Buffs thing, or something of that sort.

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Posted by: Mif.3471

Mif.3471

Why can you claim towers without active buffs anyway?
And why does a claim remain after buffs drops?

Seems like a simple design fix.

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Posted by: Delta.2093

Delta.2093

Yes, there are many players who do that and won’t allow you to add buffs, even if you ask nicely. You can’t report them either – nobody cares about “traitors” at Anet, this is a bitter pill to take everytime the objective comes under attack.

I already “proposed” a change, but nobody cares, not even those who participate in this forum…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Claiming-objectives-promotes-hatred

You can see who claimed the objective using this site:
http://gw2tracker.net/wvw/map

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Posted by: Shadow.3475

Shadow.3475

DevonCarver easy fix from your side is you can not claim a tower/keep/castle if you don’t have one off the hp, power and so buffs and Supply camp then you must have +5 supply running before you can claim the Supply camp. With then mean when the time run out off the buff you lose your claim.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

Why can you claim towers without active buffs anyway?
And why does a claim remain after buffs drops?

Seems like a simple design fix.

People would just use the exp buff then if you had to activate a buff to claim.

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Posted by: Merendel.7128

Merendel.7128

Why can you claim towers without active buffs anyway?
And why does a claim remain after buffs drops?

Seems like a simple design fix.

People would just use the exp buff then if you had to activate a buff to claim.

If it was just a requirement of any single buff sure, although it might be easier to prove intentional sabotage if they only activate 1 useless buff to end run the restriction. But what if the limits were a bit higher than that? There are 10 buffs total as I recall what if the requirements were something like this for claiming

Camps: +5 supply must be active (no other requirement)
Towers: 3 buffs active.
Keeps: 5 buffs active
Stonemist: 7 buffs active.

Yes the towers may still get claimed with simi useless buffs for defense. Someone trying to block better buffs may only do XP/karma and supply but then again towers can fall quite quickly regardless of buffs up. Camps pretty much the only critical buff is the supply one. Any others are gravey but are unlikely to let you hold the camp longer agianst a serious push to take it by the enemy zerg. Once you get to the keeps you prety much have to have a couple usefull buffs up and your starting to see a larger influence cost to deter casual trolling.

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Posted by: Lifewaster.5912

Lifewaster.5912

I would like to see a 12 hour timer for any claims, once the timer is up the claim resets automatically.

This will enable guilds to claim something and throw up their buffs, without worrying about having a representative to hand over the claim to another guild in 12 hours.