Guild Wars 2

Eh, it’s not always bots. I’ve seen people run their mouth afoul in sPvP lobby or even sPvP games. It’s to prevent ranting.

However, a commander has to rant for people to pay attention. If the commander is ranting off-topic stuff, then people will report him.

The problem is there are no benefits to being in a squad, and only a negative. The desired option is changing the suppression settings for when a commander has his icon turned on and is in a BL. Of course, having a real reason to be in a squad would be desired too.

Every time I right click a commander and select “Join Squad”, nothing happens. Am I doing it wrong?

Eviator.9746:

Every time I right click a commander and select “Join Squad”, nothing happens. Am I doing it wrong?

I find the ‘join squad’ option doesn’t work if I do it via the map. I’ve found I had select their actual toon and right click to join squad.

Now that I think about it, that’s actually a good metaphor for the current commander system =.=

^^ map join squad does not work, hoping it was broke in last wvw update. However … you select there avatar character running around, right click there name plate/image, join squad works every time.

Just have to be by him to join.

Another thing that is missing: Priority for commanders in WvW queue. It sucks when all WvW commanders are stuck in a one hour queue.

Malediktus.9250:

Another thing that is missing: Priority for commanders in WvW queue. It sucks when all WvW commanders are stuck in a one hour queue.

that wouldnt work cuze ppl will just buy a commander icon just to get in faster

What if commanders’ public chat suppression thresholds were given a base increase with additional scaling based on squad size?

That way they’d get (completely arbitrary example:) three more allowed lines of text per 15 second window, with an additional one added to their threshold per ten squad members. Obviously someone needs to do their due diligence in figuring out the right numbers in backend code, but ultimately if bots begin to exploit public chat limits being increased in order to do more botty things, commanders are a far smaller subset of the player base that it’s easier to track down.

Vi Au.8341:

Malediktus.9250:

Another thing that is missing: Priority for commanders in WvW queue. It sucks when all WvW commanders are stuck in a one hour queue.

that wouldnt work cuze ppl will just buy a commander icon just to get in faster

Maybe, or if its an organised server they will turn commander off to let the real commanders in faster.

squad chat is detrimental to commanding, we need a raid interface already

This thread is missing Ahmrill.7512…

Hexin.5603:

^^ map join squad does not work, hoping it was broke in last wvw update. However … you select there avatar character running around, right click there name plate/image, join squad works every time.

Just have to be by him to join.

Hmmm, I thought that’s what I was doing… have to try again.

Many months ago I agreed with preventing commander chat suppression. Now I don’t ever want to see it removed.

All the PvE commanders who may be great at sorting some Lost Shore encounter I don’t care about turn up in WvW with a sense of entitlement that I’m grateful they face the same restrictions as everyone else who logs on to WvW for the first time. Its great that they found the Great Google Tome Of Commanding and and all, but I only look for names that I’ve seen showing up and making sense week in week out.

The tag means nothing. Until its on someone that means something.

The main thing is fixing squad so that it is useful. Increasing the 30 person cap and showing squad commander in a different color from other commanders would be a start. When squad is only a benefit then the good servers will switch to using it to prevent suppression.
I could see a /command for commanders that asked all non-squad members in the local area whether they want to join the squad to be quite helpful as well.

MiLkZz.4789:

….Or give them Shooter like menu with standard sentences like, attack!/retreat!/move!/follow!/…. even I can program such a thing.

I personally love that idea. Create a whole new Commander UI that spawns when a Commander puts his tag up. Why not?

Vi Au.8341:

Im sorry to say but on my server nobody uses squad because u cant see where the other commanders are after joining the squad

Funny, I join squads because I don’t see the other commanders then. Because the only ones that have to know where other commanders are, are commanders.

I’ll have to agree that Squad chat is useless. We all need to be in the loop at all times. Meaning, map chat is where we all need to be. Which in WvW should not have any suppression at all. If someone is spamming on it, we have ignore to take care of that.

No. No special chat privileges just because someone spent 100 gold on an icon.

Malediktus.9250:

Another thing that is missing: Priority for commanders in WvW queue. It sucks when all WvW commanders are stuck in a one hour queue.

Too bad.

Having 100gold in game shouldn’t entitle you to priority queueing.

Make Squad chat, just like /m or /t chat and only available while in WvW

only commanders can type in it but it appears to all people on that commanders map

if there are more than 1 commander on a map then all commanders can all type in it

very few people ever join a commander’s squad hence why commander’s do not use it to chat but use map or team

if people join a commander they can type in another chat which will only appear to that commander and he can respond to, that way scouts or camp squads can talk to a commander without the entire map seeing

Probably more people would join a squad if it wasn’t so broken (clicking the icon on the map and joining the squad doesn’t work at all, it used to work from time to time before the last patch) and if the party interface wasn’t so clunky.

Maelwaedd.5842:

Make Squad chat, just like /m or /t chat and only available while in WvW

only commanders can type in it but it appears to all people on that commanders map

if there are more than 1 commander on a map then all commanders can all type in it

very few people ever join a commander’s squad hence why commander’s do not use it to chat but use map or team

if people join a commander they can type in another chat which will only appear to that commander and he can respond to, that way scouts or camp squads can talk to a commander without the entire map seeing

Sounds like a nice idea, though that would screw up the whole concept of a squad :p

Such a shame that the March 26 update didn’t do anything about chat suppression, and not even about the Commander ability itself…

As others have mentioned the squad functionality is currently too low for it to ever be a viable solution for commander chat suppression. I would love to see an actual solution presented for this issue.

rocky.8602:

As others have mentioned the squad functionality is currently too low for it to ever be a viable solution for commander chat suppression. I would love to see an actual solution presented for this issue.

Me too, mate, me too…
And we’re far from the only ones. We just need ANet to see this problem.

Never had a problem with chat suppression. If someone doesn’t listen to you the first time, they probably won’t the second time. If you do need to repeat yourself, it’s not like you can’t change up what you write.
E.g. instead of:

push
push
push
~You have been suppressed~
kitten

You could say,
push in 3
2
1
push now
keep pushing
…

SoggyFrog.4170:

Never had a problem with chat suppression. If someone doesn’t listen to you the first time, they probably won’t the second time. If you do need to repeat yourself, it’s not like you can’t change up what you write.
E.g. instead of:

push
push
push
~You have been suppressed~
kitten

You could say,
push in 3
2
1
push now
keep pushing
…

Push in 3
2
1
~Suppressed~

Perhaps there’s different rules for say and map chat, then? I have no objection to someone being chat suppressed for trying to give local commands that block out map intel.

Here’s my fix for tomes.. The regular gets what 3 messages when it gets supressed? Give the tome twice that. It always gets me on that last order.. so I mean … just double the total before a tome can be suppressed..

And the squad feature is completely useless. I hardly ever use it, and the color of squad hurts my eyes for whatever odd reason..so I don’t use it.

Cosmos The Cat.2954:

Here’s my fix for tomes.. The regular gets what 3 messages when it gets supressed? Give the tome twice that. It always gets me on that last order.. so I mean … just double the total before a tome can be suppressed..

And the squad feature is completely useless. I hardly ever use it, and the color of squad hurts my eyes for whatever odd reason..so I don’t use it.

Agreed, that would definitely help a lot.
The most important commands are always the first ones to be suppressed, and it is annoying as hell….

Iruwen.3164:

Probably more people would join a squad if it wasn’t so broken (clicking the icon on the map and joining the squad doesn’t work at all, it used to work from time to time before the last patch) and if the party interface wasn’t so clunky.

…and joining a squad is still broken after yesterday’s patch.

I can imagine the scenario where gold spammers pop commander tags to indulge their nepharious activities.
Any commander worth their salt will be on TS/Vent and have allies to post in chat for JP, Reinforcements etc.

Meryt.9823:

I can imagine the scenario where gold spammers pop commander tags to indulge their nepharious activities.
Any commander worth their salt will be on TS/Vent and have allies to post in chat for JP, Reinforcements etc.

Nahhh they’d get reported in a minute

Abolish commander chat suppression NOW!

A lot of what commander’s say is repetitive and when you say it three times you get suppressed. This is pretty ridiculous because it can make or break a fight if you can’t communicate with some of your team who isn’t on VoIP for whatever reason.

One of the reasons commanders may have to repress themselves is because unless you know the commander or already saw they had a tag, when they speak in chat, you do not know they are a commander. When in WvW they should allow the commander tag to be displayed next to the name in CHAT. That would catch everyone’s attention as to where to go. Maybe have a commander color to go with it or commander only chat.

lilz shorty.1879:

One of the reasons commanders may have to repress themselves is because unless you know the commander or already saw they had a tag, when they speak in chat, you do not know they are a commander. When in WvW they should allow the commander tag to be displayed next to the name in CHAT. That would catch everyone’s attention as to where to go. Maybe have a commander color to go with it or commander only chat.

I used to ping the buff icon to get people attention for a while.

Ballads.2509:

lilz shorty.1879:

One of the reasons commanders may have to repress themselves is because unless you know the commander or already saw they had a tag, when they speak in chat, you do not know they are a commander. When in WvW they should allow the commander tag to be displayed next to the name in CHAT. That would catch everyone’s attention as to where to go. Maybe have a commander color to go with it or commander only chat.

I used to ping the buff icon to get people attention for a while.

Shouldn’t have to. I unfortunately got this idea from runescape. When you see a mod talking, you saw a crown next to his name. Same for a developer, except his crown was gold. It caught everyone’s attention whenever they talked.

lilz shorty.1879:

Ballads.2509:

lilz shorty.1879:

One of the reasons commanders may have to repress themselves is because unless you know the commander or already saw they had a tag, when they speak in chat, you do not know they are a commander. When in WvW they should allow the commander tag to be displayed next to the name in CHAT. That would catch everyone’s attention as to where to go. Maybe have a commander color to go with it or commander only chat.

I used to ping the buff icon to get people attention for a while.

Shouldn’t have to. I unfortunately got this idea from runescape. When you see a mod talking, you saw a crown next to his name. Same for a developer, except his crown was gold. It caught everyone’s attention whenever they talked.

Ahhhhh… Good old RuneScape…
But yeah that is a great idea indeed. I remember asking a mod where he got his crown from :p stupid question, but I was only 12 years old or something like that
I really think GW2 should do the same with Commanders

I only get supressed spamming teamspeak info, and people are complaining about me not commanding in team chat and only on teamspeak, do they really think I can actively type while fighting enemy zergs? especially now that AR and RS are not just zergs, but blobs…
would be awesome if there was some VOIP in GW2… I would rather have that than less supression, really

Vayle.7964:

I only get supressed spamming teamspeak info, and people are complaining about me not commanding in team chat and only on teamspeak, do they really think I can actively type while fighting enemy zergs? especially now that AR and RS are not just zergs, but blobs…
would be awesome if there was some VOIP in GW2… I would rather have that than less supression, really

That’s the hard part indeed, typing while playing. Though it’s what I do all the time
But yeah VOIP in-game would be nice, rather than having everyone download TeamSpeak or something alike…

Robot Chocken.7012:

Abolish commander chat suppression NOW!

I can just imagine the spambot commanders in LA now…

Yeah the pugs wont get teamspeak or mumble so we have to use chat -_-. It is really annoying when we get suppressed when its really urgent. At least relax the suppression on commanders.

Commander UI is so broken, its just a mundane icon to help route. All top WvW guilds use voice chat without a doubt. IG chat is not META nor as effective.

So what is being said here actually is squads need to be fixed not chat well time to start a new thread about that

Scratch that found it https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/suggestion-making-squads-more-usefull/first#post1815217

Habib Loew.6239:

I’m aware you are all posting about public chat but I just wanted to post a reminder that commanders are never suppressed in squad chat.

Without reading all the reponses after yours, here is the problem with Squad chat:

1. It looks like Squad allows a maximum of 25 players, so this limits Squad Chat
2. When in a Squad, you can no longer see other commanders (blue doritos) on the map. This makes joining a squad often a detriment to map coordination between commanders.

Xavi.6591:

Habib Loew.6239:

I’m aware you are all posting about public chat but I just wanted to post a reminder that commanders are never suppressed in squad chat.

Without reading all the reponses after yours, here is the problem with Squad chat:

1. It looks like Squad allows a maximum of 25 players, so this limits Squad Chat
2. When in a Squad, you can no longer see other commanders (blue doritos) on the map. This makes joining a squad often a detriment to map coordination between commanders.

1) It’s 30 (29+commander), just an FYI
2) And yes…. One time I joined a commanders squad in a BL, then hopped over to EB to see if they had a commander, and reported to my commander that they didn’t….because I had forgotten I was in a squad. They did have a commander, I just couldn’t see them.

Squads are useless.

I was commanding yesterday and got supressed again. Of the five times I’ve commanded, I’ve been supressed three times. I was in mumble, but about 50% of the people following me were not.

This really needs a fix.

I’ve recently stopped commanding PUGS because of this, My commanding style requires a lot of “Stop, Buffs/Boons/Shouts, Stack, Push, Get back, Hold the choke,” ect the list goes on. And it’s super annoying to go stack, buffs up, then “suppressed” when you say push, or “suppressed” when you say fall back. Next thing you know your group is wiped, and now the morale among-st your PUGS hits the floor.

For these reasons I now mostly command my guild and we use TS3.

I’ll only come command pugs if there’s
A, No active commanders on the map.
B, I get called to command on the map by an ally.

I know there’s really no way to get around chat suppression because I can see both sides of it, that people would abuse it if taken away, but just having squad chat is useless no one ever joins my squad because there is no reason too. And if you tell the pugs too, you would be lucky if 1/5th of them did…

Consider me subscribed to this thread. It made it very hard this afternoon commanding PUGs while taking back multiple camps. Could not talk after the first few things that I said. Please eliminate chat suppression for Commanders.

Having people join your squad is a poor excuse. Most people do not even know what a squad is, let alone how to join it!!!

Btw, u can see habib on google plus. He makes comments about gw2 over there that never make their way here.