Guild Wars 2

So “you will have the same number of points to spend on each of your characters”.

Does that mean that each character has the maximum points determined by how much wxp is in your account? For example, a 100 ranger and 50 engineer are now in a pool and they each can spend 150 OR

Each character pulls from the same pool and it divides the total? For example, a 100 ranger and a 50 engineer are pooled and each can now spend 75?

They both have the same points to spend whichever way you want to spend them. So they both will have 150 to spend. Your wxp from then on are pooled so each point you gain on a character, every other character on your account gets it too.

Bombsaway.7198:

So “you will have the same number of points to spend on each of your characters”.

Does that mean that each character has the maximum points determined by how much wxp is in your account? For example, a 100 ranger and 50 engineer are now in a pool and they each can spend 150 OR

Each character pulls from the same pool and it divides the total? For example, a 100 ranger and a 50 engineer are pooled and each can now spend 75?

All of your characters world exp will be combined. The combination of world exp will go to ALL of your characters each having that same WvW exp to use individually.

For example: An account has 3 characters. Character A with 100 WvW rank and Char B with 150 rank and Char C with 1 rank. Char A through C individually will probably get to have 247 WvW points to use in their skills. You have to keep in mind that even though the total rank is 251 there, you won’t get 251. The lower ranks require much less WvW exp and therefore since it takes TOTAL exp, it isn’t as simple as adding WvW ranks individually.

So, from your example: ranger 100 and eng 50 before patch.

After patch, a pool of 150 – I spend 150 on the ranger – do I have zero available on the engie?

no pool… 100 ranger, 100 engi

If you have a lvl 100 char and a lvl 50 char, the WXP from both these chars will be added. You won’t get rank 150 since ranks 1-5 require less WXP, but soemthing along the lines of rank 146 or so. So you will have 146 ability points on each character; the way you spend them is unique to each character so you can put 146 points on one char and 146 points on another char just the way you want it.

Okay, I see I’m not the only one not sure how this will work.
Charak, I don’t get what you said.

SkyFalls, if you’re right, wow, that is way more generous than I imagined. I thought it would all pool together and each character would draw out of that pool – so if you spent it all on one character, you’d have nothing for the others.

Kincaidia.3192:

Okay, I see I’m not the only one not sure how this will work.
Charak, I don’t get what you said.

SkyFalls, if you’re right, wow, that is way more generous than I imagined. I thought it would all pool together and each character would draw out of that pool – so if you spent it all on one character, you’d have nothing for the others.

there is no if, he is correct.
and charak is not.

It’s the same pool where you take ranks, following the example of rank 50 and rank 100 between 2 char, you can spend 150 in one but will have 0 on the other

Billaboong.6821:

It’s the same pool where you take ranks, following the example of rank 50 and rank 100 between 2 char, you can spend 150 in one but will have 0 on the other

uhh no, that’s an incredibly stupid assumption.

in that example, you would have rank 150 on both chars.

Could we get a red-name confirmation?

From the announcement:

As a part of this change, we will be resetting everyone’s spent World Ability Points on the day of the build. This gives everyone the opportunity to re-allocate their points on each of their characters. You will have the same number of World Ability Points to spend on each of your characters, and you’ll be able to uniquely allocate those points.

I read that as saying that all characters contribute to a common pool and every character has unqiue access to the full allotment regardless of points spent on another character.

(ignoring the first few lower-exp levels – irrelevant to this part of the discussion)

Pre-patch:

Char1 – 100 ranks
Char2 – 200 ranks
Char3 – 300 ranks

Post patch (scenario #1):
Account Pool: 600
Char1 – 600 points to spend
Char2 – 600 points to spend
Char3 – 600 points to spend

Post patch (scenario #2):
Account Pool: 600
Char1 – 600 points to spend
Char2 – (600 – char1 points spent) points to spend
Char3 – (600 – (char1 + char2 point spent)) points to spend

I just need a red name to come in and say “#1” or “#2”.

Does it matter? One way or another, we will all find out for sure come April 15th.

Yup, it matters. If I’m going to be able to have all my points on another character, I’m going to make sure he gets to 80 and geared out by the 15th. Otherwise I’m not going to, because it will be faster to gain the wvw points on my main and then use them on my alt when my main has gathered enough.

So hang me. I like to plan things out.

“You will have the same number of World Ability Points to spend on each of your characters, and you’ll be able to uniquely allocate those points. For example, if you want your necromancer to be a Supply Master but your ranger to be a Ram Master, you can do that.”

Kincaidia I read that as your option #1 (not sure it’ll work out exactly like that due to how much experience it’ll take to get to the higher levels)

Imo it’s pretty logic,

char1 has 100 ranks and char2 has 0 ranks, they will both have 100 rank points to spend.

Why would anet make a wxp pool and then not let you use every wxp point on every char ? only for the title ? it doesn’t make sense.

EDIT: Found the devon post about this :

DevonCarver.5370:

AcFiBu.9624:

So when the ranks become account bound. Say my total rank is 400. does that mean I have 400 points to put into each character, or does it mean I have 400 points to split between all my characters.

It means that you have 400 points for each character and can spend them however you want on each.

Also : read the faq for any other question https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/World-Ranks-FAQ/first

Scenario #2’s use would be to allow someone to switch main characters while #1 let’s you have each character have its own use.

sminkiottone.6972:

Imo it’s pretty logic,

char1 has 100 ranks and char2 has 0 ranks, they will both have 100 rank points to spend.

Why would anet make a wxp pool and then not let you use every wxp point on every char ? only for the title ? it doesn’t make sense

Also, if you have, say, 2 chars and 37 points, you can’t exactly split that in two so their announcement that “all characters have the same amount of points” would be false. And what happens when you make a 3rd char after the update?

There is only one logical conclusion: all chars will get the same number of points, which is the max number of points on your account after adding all the WXP from all your characters.

But we’ll skip the noose. For now.

Each character will have their wxp combined and each character will have the same amount of wxp available to spend after it’s all combined. Spending your ranks on abilities of one character will not affect the amount of ranks you can spend on another character. So if across all characters, their combined wxp gives your account 500 world ranks, each character will be able to spend 500 world ranks each and spending 100 world ranks on one character will not reduce the amount of world ranks you can spend on another character.

Just about everyone (well, people that are not currently ranked extremely high and have everything) will be able to get abilities/masteries that they haven’t bought before as a result of this. If you are not entirely sure how effective some of the masteries are before spending, you can always make an alt and rank up all of one mastery and test it out. You can basically use one level two alt to test each of the ranks and keep deleting it and remaking it each time you want to relocate your points on it. That will give you a better idea on how to spend your new wxp on your other characters just incase the guild wiki pages on the masteries aren’t descriptive enough for some of them. Just a suggestion.

Kincaidia.3192:

Scenario #2’s use would be to allow someone to switch main characters while #1 let’s you have each character have its own use.

number 2 is pathological

you dont need a red to tell you its #1 because its in the blog and youre overreacting

It’s not as complicated as people are making it out to be.

All characters will be exactly the same.

Just remember that 50 levels on one toon, and 30 on another does not EQUAL 80.
Since level 1-4 are 5,000 exp they are effectively +1 level. So the final #of levels will be 50 + 26 = 76.

And once you do that on one account, you will be 76 on every account.

And PS.

It’s explicitly stated in the announcement that every toon can use their points however they want so NO, you aren’t pigeon holed into a specific set.

it’s option #1. otherwise it wouldn’t be the same number of points available on every character, each character would be different based on how many were left unspent.

-ken

I’d clarify this and end this discussion.

Basically this “Account Bound” Anet been mentioning for ages is just that all your WvW ranks and points will be combined into one pool.

However, those points can only be individually spent on EACH of your characters, meaning if you have spend all your point on ONE character, all the rest of your characters will still have 0 wvw skills, and only the character you spend the points on will have access to those wvw skills.

This just make it abit alt friendly, since you can grind some points from your main so your alt can have ram master lv3 and supply master, so your alt won’t be completely useless. However this is by no way making your life easier since you still have to grind those points if you want your alts to be as strong as your main, so don’t be too hype about it.

In the words of the Matrix: “There is no pool”

Corny and terrible jokes aside, they have continuously said that you get the same number of points to spend on EVERY character. If you have one character at rank 150 and 2 alts at rank 0, each character has access to 150 points, regardless of how many points any other character has spent.

Beautiful clarity, thank you.

And I would not expect every single corner test case to be flushed out without the whole thing going live.

Hello, could you please tell me if the nametags will be account bound or character bound? If I make a new character, will it be Legend or Invader?

Also, will we still get WXP Mini-Boosters for the first 4 ranks?

Chris Barrett.3280:

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thanks for sharing
would read again!

Chris Barrett.3280:

XacTactX.6709:

Hello, could you please tell me if the nametags will be account bound or character bound? If I make a new character, will it be Legend or Invader?

Nametags are directly based on Rank. Post-April 15th, no matter which character you play with, every one of them will share your account’s single Rank/nametag. If your account is at Rank 120, you’re a Legend no matter which character you use.

XacTactX.6709:

Also, will we still get WXP Mini-Boosters for the first 4 ranks?

Yes. But, now you only go through the first 4 Ranks once. Even if you create a new character, they’ll still be at your account’s Rank, and rolling on the appropriate loot tables for higher-Ranked chests.

So cool. TY for taking the time to explain the process above and answering questions.