For developers WvW balancing is hard and unpredictable. And people always complain about the balance.
Also players like something fresh and fun. Even on WvW.
I have an idea how to solve both problems.
Lets discuss about following simple idea:
To make sometimes (once per week or once per month) a “crazy friday” when some of WvW mechanics will be totally different temporarily (for this day only)
It can be a big change or even small.
Few examples:
- Reduce the cost of golems. Let people to make a huge Golem-Army! I believe it will be epic and fun battles, at least players expirience in these battles will be totally different.
- Give the posibility to make easy-build and easy-destructible “barricades”, nobody can pass through it (like body-block in GW1), but attackers can spend some time to break it. You can imagine how this small thing can change all tactics. What about barricades in SM? What if we can build multi-level barricardes on the top of other barricades?
- Siege mashines. Can be used to go over the walls.
- One unusual WayPoint.
- etc.
After the each “crazy friday” you will have feedback from players to understand: was it fun? Can something be used later in WvW on permanent basis? You can play with balance or with any crazy stuff, just to check mechanics and have feedback from players.
From players point of view: WvW will be sometimes less predictable, new tactics/mechanics will bring some fresh air to WvW. Also people can give new ideas to developers for next friday
24 hours from reset a random event happens. Be it EXP/WXP/Karma/Magic Find boost or perhaps all NPC’s have 100% more health (would be so awesome to fight the lords in keeps/SM with such a boost. Entire battle would end up like a PVE event XD). Or hell, even funnier, your health is reduced by 50 %.
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
Back in the old days of BG we just used to have No-Pants Fridays. That was crazy enough for us back then. You kids these days always gotta push the limits!
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Back in the old days of BG we just used to have No-Pants Fridays. That was crazy enough for us back then. You kids these days always gotta push the limits!
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Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
- Reduce the cost of golems. Let people to make a huge Golem-Army! I believe it will be epic and fun battles, at least players expirience in these battles will be totally different.
How about instead of building golems everyone just spawns as a golem, and if you kill 10 enemy golems without dying you become an omega golem.
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You start off as whatever you are,
After every 5 or whatever stomps, you’re automatically switched to a new class, build and gear… (Far-fetched idea, given the amount of programming required for this).
This was a really fun game mode back in the Counter-Strike days. It forced you to use weapons (or in this case, classes and builds) you weren’t familiar with or didn’t otherwise use regularly.
Of course, the further you progress, the more rewarding it is. Ideally because you show competence in many classes and builds. I think if anything else, getting to play something new is its own reward. Might open people up to new classes.
“Crazy Friday” could be pretty fun. We had it once already, when we had those few days a while back where no one could build any siege (except golems, I think?) It was fun while it lasted, however…
To be honest, this kind of thing won’t really affect balance at all. Servers with 24/7 coverage or close to it will still completely stomp servers that don’t have round-the-clock coverage, and servers that field huge numbers will still easily beat servers that can’t que 3 or more maps 7 days a week. The only type of “random rules” that could affect balance in this sort of way would be something like random blackout hours, where maybe WvW just shuts down randomly for several hours during non-NA times in NA, or non-EU times in EU; or maybe a a ruleset where for 1 week, the que for WvW shrinks to 25 people per map. This kind of thing would probably make people even more upset than the current server balance problems, however.
“Crazy Friday” could be pretty fun. We had it once already, when we had those few days a while back where no one could build any siege (except golems, I think?) It was fun while it lasted, however…
To be honest, this kind of thing won’t really affect balance at all. …
Yes! This is whole idea. This thing will not affect the global balance. So developers can play with different things without a fear.
yes, nice idea too!
but it’s too pemanent and will affect the balance.
my idea to have something fun but temporary (once per week or month)
to avoid the affecting to global WWW balance,
then devs can fell free to change anything!
What about… a day when all damage is able to hit allied forces aswell. O_O
Zerging would die in that case, cause everyone would stay clear of eachother as much as they could.
What about… a day when all damage is able to hit allied forces aswell. O_O
Zerging would die in that case, cause everyone would stay clear of eachother as much as they could.
wow, I like to try it!
may be except melee damage
something like “all range and AOE” can damage to all. As in real war
imho zerg will not be destroyed, but ppl may look like marching soldiers from 18th centery keeping their distance
Crazy Friday, each character only has one life. You die, that toon is locked out of WvW for 24 hours.
Play smart, WvW just became hardcore.
Woow, would be really nice. Better like that idea! It will create a better teamwork for all servers during this day and also it will affect the future days, people will finally realize what teamwork really is.
This would be a great start for new properties for WvW!
This suggestion got my vote!
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1st stage is making the game stable; Server,Client, Mechanics, Stability (May last up to 3 to 6 years)
2nd stage is the creative bloom stage; Adding creative ways to make the game still as exciting (Normally starts after the game is 1 years old and can last up to 9 years)
3rd stage is the refinement stage of the 1st and 2nd Stage (Somewhere right before stage 4, about after 4 years lasting up to the end of the game)
4th stage is the technological improvement stage; i.e. Graphics to DX11.1 (Usually after the game is 5 years old so has to justify the extra RnD cost)
Fuzzionx[SF]
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Also: Jormag sweeps though WvW and blows up every wall and gate on every tower and keep.
wvw definitely needs more dragon attacks. Although the amount of QQ that would arise if friendly fire was turned on would be something of legend.
Yea, I also have a lot of cool ideas, but imho if the implementation will be complex, just forget about it, devs have own plan regarding complex things.
But current topic is about very easy changes for developers, just read above, and so it really can be implemented and will be very fun for WWW gameplay!
That would certainly make things more interesting. Looking through the current cycle, the Minion Apocalypse one would be hilarious in zerg fights. Talk about chaos!
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I’d rather they spend their time fixing all of the broken stuff instead of introducing new things, many of which may also not work as intended. They have more work in front of them than they seem to be able to handle already.
You start off as whatever you are,
After every 5 or whatever stomps, you’re automatically switched to a new class, build and gear… (Far-fetched idea, given the amount of programming required for this).
This was a really fun game mode back in the Counter-Strike days. It forced you to use weapons (or in this case, classes and builds) you weren’t familiar with or didn’t otherwise use regularly.
Of course, the further you progress, the more rewarding it is. Ideally because you show competence in many classes and builds. I think if anything else, getting to play something new is its own reward. Might open people up to new classes.
Or just move up through the classes, start with the worst, ele, and then move all the way up to War…Of course I was always more of a fan of reverse GG, that way it gets more difficult and those that get to the top first don’t utterly destroy the players that have not advanced. This may work better in PvP rather than WvW.
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Dragon Steel [DSL]
Henge of Denravi
I like the 1st idea = just some small but cool thing, like:
- golem cost can be 2 Sup, and golem speed 4x times more.
- SM Lords have 5 times bigger damage always, so they can not be killed so easy as today
- etc.
nothing to develop here, just change manually one constant parameter and see how people will respond to this change (again it must happen rarely, one day of week or one day of month). And I can predict: players will wait for this cool day!
