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Posted by: Dal.5872

Dal.5872

No this is not a moan about warriors, thieves, stealth/invisibilty but the most deadly of all classes in WvW. The gently declining slope and their stairs counterpart.

Stairs and slopes in GW2 account for more ridiculous deaths than should be happening. Why do I take 10x more damage walking down a slope that looks built for wheelchair access than jumping off the cliff next to me, which declines to the same point from the same height?

Will these gently declining slopes ever be sorted or should we be putting Anet in touch with Stannah Stairlifts?

ArenaNET please fix the slopes and stairs, their must be a variable used to determine what rate of fall over time causes damage and I think this needs some tweaking.

P.S Before anyone implies that we are “falling” down the slope, the feet remain safely beneath us at all times until the point of death.

TL;DR Slopes and Stairs in WvW are a pain in the rear and cause annoying death for no reason. Please fix.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

I still think cliffs are stronger than stairs as you can actually avoid death from stairs if you stop a few seconds before your HP runs out. Cliffs are usually insta-death.

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Posted by: Dhampyr.2104

Dhampyr.2104

I still think cliffs are stronger than stairs as you can actually avoid death from stairs if you stop a few seconds before your HP runs out. Cliffs are usually insta-death.

True, but I’m pretty sure the OP’s point is that you have to “avoid death from stairs if you stop for a few seconds.” Why are stairs and gentle slopes causing damage in the first place???

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Posted by: Deniara Devious.3948

Deniara Devious.3948

This is a serious issue in WvWvW, especially on the borderland maps. I have died countless of times from full health (over 25k). The typical locations are the zigzag near the North West towers of the borderlands. Doing tiny bit of jumping seems to be more likely to trigger this bug, but sometimes you just walk down the slope and you die in few seconds.

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Posted by: Ryu.3972

Ryu.3972

Stairs overpowered

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Posted by: Synosius.9876

Synosius.9876

Any who played warhammer online are accustomed to deadly terrain.

omg rock
PANIC MODE
spin direction controls wildly in vain attempt to escape the rock
dead…

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Posted by: Dal.5872

Dal.5872

I still think cliffs are stronger than stairs as you can actually avoid death from stairs if you stop a few seconds before your HP runs out. Cliffs are usually insta-death.

The point is, standing on a small cliff that should I jump from will remove around 50% of my health. Whereas running down the gentle slope next to said cliff can kill me halfway down.

We’ve all jumped from tower walls and they take tiny amounts of hp to the ground, run down the stairs just next to you and you can be dead before you get to the ground.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

The stairs at Anzalias are notoriously deadly.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

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The stairs at Anzalias are notoriously deadly.

Lmfao, so very true.

Also yes, I don’t get why this is a thing. It wouldn’t bother me if it weren’t so frequent. It’s the worst when you’re trying to outrun an enemy zerg with half a health bar to spare and you go down a grassy knoll just a little too fast and… Oh I’m dead now. Must have tripped on my shoelaces or something.

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Posted by: GOSU.9574

GOSU.9574

The slope damage bug been in game since pre-launch. I have adjusted to just consider it a “Feature” since anet doesn’t consider it a bug worthy of being fixed.

L2Jump down stairs, all I can suggest.

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Posted by: Waffler.1257

Waffler.1257

It’s also possible to jump on completely flat terrain and take falling damage each time you hit the ground until you die, pretty good feature.

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Posted by: GOSU.9574

GOSU.9574

It’s also possible to jump on completely flat terrain and take falling damage each time you hit the ground until you die, pretty good feature.

I actually have a specific location where this is repeatable and posted it in the bugs forum. Notice it got fixed…….not.

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

Wanze.8410

Today I even got killed by walking UP the stairs.
Alas, it was the stairs to the enemy spawn and the legendary defenders might have had something to do with it.

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Posted by: Hamster.4861

Hamster.4861

terrain > players. duh

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Posted by: Coronit.9432

Coronit.9432

I just want to see one time a whole zerg getting wiped in a glorious fight against stairs…. just once… please…

Maybe we have very sensitive feets? I mean the feets from my theif sometimes doesn´t even want to teleport (or porting back after softly touching the ground deciding it not being worthy of beeing in touch with :o

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Posted by: Fuzzion.2504

Fuzzion.2504

They havent even fixxed the non-nit exploit at the edges, return our orbs and expect them to fix this? Remember, it took one year, yes 1 whole year to introduce colors to commander tags. At this rate, expect bugs to be fixed in 2068.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

Even though it decreases my builds performance, when running in certain areas I trait for falling damage. It’s worth it to avoid the aggravation. Yes, this should be fixed too.

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Posted by: BooHud.2681

BooHud.2681

Terrain is always OP. So is Waffler’s name. And Chaba’s moosie hat. And Fuzzion’s Topcheekieness …

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

huh. For me, falling damage is minimal and part of my weapons kit. I get a nice blastable field when I take falling damage. Someone dying from falling on the stairs at Anzalias is hilarious, btw.)

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Posted by: Garrisyl.7402

Garrisyl.7402

Jumping/dodging after taking fall damage still deals additional fall damage:

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Posted by: Pastafarian.1642

Pastafarian.1642

This is a l2p issue no need to nerf the stairs they are working as intended. Ppl need to learn to walk down the stairs. Next time you see stairs walk down, tip you need to keybind a key to walk.

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

I heard all classes have traits that mitigate falling damage.

Ele’s falling damage trait has the added bonus of producing a field based on attunement, which can be handy. You jump off a wall into a zerg with air attunement, you get instant static field plus a speed boost, or fire field with might, etc.

I jump off of stuff on purpose and rarely get hurt. I have to fall a long, long way to get killed.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

Dont know what any of you are talking about, but I want stairs + slopes the next playable race 2015. Prepare yourselves.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

Me on stairs when I start taking damage ……
http://youtu.be/QnDxPG3KrtA?t=50s

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Please take a moment of silence right now to remember yet another poor innocent victim of the murderous Stairs of Anzalias. RIP Random FA Pug Nov. 30 2014.

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Posted by: ReSpect.7125

ReSpect.7125

Ele’s falling damage trait has the added bonus of producing a field based on attunement, which can be handy. You jump off a wall into a zerg with air attunement, you get instant static field plus a speed boost, or fire field with might, etc.

Ive played ele in WvW for a looooong time but have never thougth about that. could be good when defending to just jump down in front of the gate.

Thanx for this mate

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Posted by: iFocus.3781

iFocus.3781

TL;DR Slopes and Stairs in WvW are a pain in the rear and cause annoying death for no reason. Please fix.

http://bit.ly/1zABUQK

This, literally.

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Posted by: Hule.8794

Hule.8794

Ive played ele in WvW for a looooong time but have never thougth about that. could be good when defending to just jump down in front of the gate.

Thanx for this mate

Warrior trait will just knockback enemies, one friend was just for fun jumping on the gate all the time and knockingback guys from rams.

Anyone remembering when Mesmer traited falling was doing like gazillion of damage? All those jumping mesmers was fun.
Anet should do it again.

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Ele’s falling damage trait has the added bonus of producing a field based on attunement, which can be handy. You jump off a wall into a zerg with air attunement, you get instant static field plus a speed boost, or fire field with might, etc.

Ive played ele in WvW for a looooong time but have never thougth about that. could be good when defending to just jump down in front of the gate.

Thanx for this mate

Very useful for support ele in WvW and can be good in PvE also.

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Posted by: TheGrimm.5624

TheGrimm.5624

+1 Stairs way OP.

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Posted by: GOSU.9574

GOSU.9574

I have to laugh at people suggesting you need to learn to play and take reduced fall damage trait in order to avoid a B U G.

B
U
G

Yeah after over 2 years you can consider it an in-game feature, but in reality it is a B U G anet refuses to fix.

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

You can fall off of stuff and die in PvE, too. One of the first things I did in GW2 was fall through the middle of Rata Sum to my death.

I think you really should bring enough armor or something to WvW that you don’t die on the stairs of any of the structures. Otherwise, you must be rally bait.

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Posted by: Hamster.4861

Hamster.4861

You can fall off of stuff and die in PvE, too. One of the first things I did in GW2 was fall through the middle of Rata Sum to my death.

I think you really should bring enough armor or something to WvW that you don’t die on the stairs of any of the structures. Otherwise, you must be rally bait.

cant tell if trolling but, falling damage is definitely a % of your HP. How much armor you have is irrelevant to gravity.

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Posted by: Mike Hawk.4835

Mike Hawk.4835

You can fall off of stuff and die in PvE, too. One of the first things I did in GW2 was fall through the middle of Rata Sum to my death.

I think you really should bring enough armor or something to WvW that you don’t die on the stairs of any of the structures. Otherwise, you must be rally bait.

cant tell if trolling but, falling damage is definitely a % of your HP. How much armor you have is irrelevant to gravity.

The heavier your armor and toon the MORE damage you should take from falling … I mean, basic physics and all.

With that being said, light armor Asura’s should be able to fly.

Also yeah, terrain OP.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

Correct, armor appears to be irrelevant and it’s a percentage of total health. To test this I just took my glass Ele and glass Necro and tossed them over a cliff.

The Ele at 13,473 hp took 24,140 falling damage.
The Necro at 20,823 hp took 39,574 falling damage.

Both had the same toughness/armor rating of 1959. Even placing an additional 300 points into toughness did not change the falling damage taken.

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Posted by: LionZero.3479

LionZero.3479

Pff i’d say client sided position forwarding is still deadlier then stairs, expecially under heavy server stress, all those deads claimed by skill behavior anomly far outweight dead by stairs ^^!

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Posted by: Pastafarian.1642

Pastafarian.1642

I have to laugh at people suggesting you need to learn to play and take reduced fall damage trait in order to avoid a B U G.

B
U
G

Yeah after over 2 years you can consider it an in-game feature, but in reality it is a B U G anet refuses to fix.

You are taking the comments to seriously chill

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Posted by: GOSU.9574

GOSU.9574

I have to laugh at people suggesting you need to learn to play and take reduced fall damage trait in order to avoid a B U G.

B
U
G

Yeah after over 2 years you can consider it an in-game feature, but in reality it is a B U G anet refuses to fix.

You are taking the comments to seriously chill

I like it when people do this. It’s pure trolling. Who isn’t “chill”? You try to shut me down because you disagree but rather than counter my point or bring material to discuss on the matter itself, the bugged slope damage, you decide to insult someone with an arbitrary insult.

Good luck with your interview.

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

You can fall off of stuff and die in PvE, too. One of the first things I did in GW2 was fall through the middle of Rata Sum to my death.

I think you really should bring enough armor or something to WvW that you don’t die on the stairs of any of the structures. Otherwise, you must be rally bait.

cant tell if trolling but, falling damage is definitely a % of your HP. How much armor you have is irrelevant to gravity.

not trolling, I just don’t take a lot of falling damage on my main. Had no idea anyone could kill themselves tripping down the stairs at Anzalias. No idea.

It seems stupid to take a character into WvW who can’t survive the usual jumps. The borderlands are way worse than EB or the stairs at Anzalias.

You will arrive in battle seriously injured over and over if you can’t take falling damage.

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

I arrive at the end of my jump with a blast and a boon, barely damaged.

I guess if the guardians and warriors are going to crash, I should go with water attunement and a healing blast?

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

I was using static and fire fields.

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Posted by: Pastafarian.1642

Pastafarian.1642

I have to laugh at people suggesting you need to learn to play and take reduced fall damage trait in order to avoid a B U G.

B
U
G

Yeah after over 2 years you can consider it an in-game feature, but in reality it is a B U G anet refuses to fix.

You are taking the comments to seriously chill

I like it when people do this. It’s pure trolling. Who isn’t “chill”? You try to shut me down because you disagree but rather than counter my point or bring material to discuss on the matter itself, the bugged slope damage, you decide to insult someone with an arbitrary insult.

Good luck with your interview.

LOL i meant dont take the trolls including me seriously. Because i agree its a bugg. I thought one could see when its a joke or troll post guess not..

Love serious ppl

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Posted by: Bloodwort MacFangho.4638

Bloodwort MacFangho.4638

The stairs are innocent .. leave them be!
It’s a perma-stealth thief backstabbing you as you go down those stairs!

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

TexZero.7910

Nerf Stairs 2014!

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

Every time I think I have cracked the no-death on slope code, I get a reality check.

Yet another series of bugs that has persisted far too long.

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Posted by: Battlerobot.9461

Battlerobot.9461

Go jump off of the roof of a two story building and let me know how much HP you mitigated with your ninja skills. =)

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Posted by: FrouFrou.4958

FrouFrou.4958

I think jetpacks would be the right answer to this particular problem.

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Posted by: Mike Hawk.4835

Mike Hawk.4835

I think jetpacks would be the right answer to this particular problem.

Expansion pack coming soon ….

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