Guild Wars 2

I have been roaming with small groups to capture objectives that are left unguarded, and I definitely am dealing damage to gates, but whenever the gate gets destroyed, I get no credit. How do you get credit for this achievement? Do you have to be the one manning the rams? ( I can’t, I’m too squishy! ;~;) Do you have to deal a certain amount of damage? Do you have to be the one to deliver the final blow?

Someone please help me out

Yes, it seems like you only get rewarded when hitting it with siege.

You have to have used the Ram and hit the gate at least once. I’ve got credit for this achievement when I hit the gate once with the Ram and another guy took over and destroyed the gate.

It’s pretty stupid, cause now everyone that doesn’t have Ram Mastery will want to hog the Ram to get the achievement.

I was worried that might be the case ._. I don’t want to have to take a ram from a more capable individual with ram mastery. What about catapults or other siege equipment? Anyone know if those apply?

Actually, I have been getting credit for the achievement without being on any siege. You just have to do enough damage to the door to get credit.

I guess my dinky shortbow simply doesn’t do enough damage, then. I guess I’ll just have to commandeer a ram to be able to deal enough :P

ask someone to drop a FGS and use it to attack the gates.

Ah, I’ve seen people dropping FGS’s before, but they just get picked up so fast xD I’ll have to ask specifically, then. Thanks!

There must be something wrong with this, because I’m fairly certain you can get credit hitting the gate once with ram and autoattacking it afterwards, but often, you don’t get credit attacking the gate the entire time…

Maybe I’m having weird memory though, if anyone cares to test it.

apparently i do get the credit for PvDooring (autoattack, other skill etc, without using siege). perhaps i did enough damage….

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

So now it’s not only next to impossible to tag anywhere nearly as well in a large scale fight as a mesmer to get bags/kills, you cant even get a basic achievement against an inanimate object….

the threshold is a bit high in my opinion

we realised that if one person do ram in the party, everyone in party will get the point count. (even if he done 40% of the gate hp leave and let other group to have a chance to do it)
i also think if you are in a party of 5, total damage from everyone counted for it.
correct me if what i mentioned later is incorrect.
we tested the first.

That or join a group…soon as I was in a party I was getting credit for it. If you’re going at it solo you wont be doing enough damage

the thing is, if u want to be allowed to use a ram, either u have to put it down yourself or have ram mastery 3 or people will just take it away from u as they can deal more dmg on gates and get it down faster

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

“Enough damage” is a dubious statement. I can agree that most of the times taking on the ram will make it work. But yesterday I had a funny one. My zerg was taking the tower and I was rushing to them to make it in time and get the tower cap. I arrived just as the doors were about to go down and I managed to get ONE shot from my rifle at the them. Two seconds later I got the credit for Demolitions Expert. And I was nowhere near that tower before as I rushed to it straight from the spawn point.

I can only suspect that the game code counted my damage done in relation to total damage done while I was near the tower. All damage done before I arrived was not counted to the total.

really! lol strange!
dat must be called the final “gate” shot :p

Also, i have on multiple occasions rammed a gate from 100 to 0% without getting credit for it.

If you get wxp from pvdooring, you will get the achievement, I’ve found. Alternatively, you could find a nice cata spot with guildies and take turns taking walls and gates down.

I destroyed the gate 10+ times with a ram and never got a point towards an achievement. My only point I got was when I hit the gate 3 times with auto-attack. I think it might not work correctly.

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

Again you are totally forgetting uplevels… I’ve been playing this game (and WvW) since the open beta and I love playing alts. What’s the fun in specializing in one class? It’s a lot better for you and your team if you can bring up different classes, with equal skill. I have leveled a level 80: 1 engineer, 2 warriors, 1 mesmer, 1 guardian, 1 elementalist, 1 thief. I didn’t level necromancer or ranger so far.

Anyways, I think people who have a certain number of level 80s and are an adept in WvW shouldn’t be forced the “uplevel way” (aka. You are so weak a level 80 can one-hit you). For that matter I think uplevels are a joke, instead seperate WvW and PvE gear and make uplevels level 80 in WvW, with traits and armour.

Stop making WvW alt-unfriendly.

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

Great, my necro is based on conditions. Can I get some wood rotting curse for this please? =)

Never got anything in the door or gate category that I was hitting the entire time, except when I used ram, or treb- in fact I spent some time on the SM treb team and later treb Anza just to get the achievement.

This might have something to do with the fact that most of the time I am not in a group.

This account that I am typing this from (different from the above one) is still bugged and can’t get the ‘start of the season’ achievement- bug issue reported, waiting for a fix that works.

@aspirine – join a party and that should help a bit ideally, not all of you are condition based. heh.

and for exmaple, if you are using weapon skills, and then there are 3 rams dropped, the gate’ll probs go down too fast that you haven’t done enough damage.

I have 14 gate counted while i attacked and downed like 100-150 gates (100-0%) in the past 3-4 days. It is working obviously not as it is intended.

I got credit for autoattacking – full dps – icebow/FGS attack – and ramming. Also i got nothing for them as well.

It should be fixed damage instead of percentage. For example if you made 3-4k dmf to the gate with weapons you should have get credit.

dont be squishy. 3000 armor is the minimum in wvw

Getting credit for a gate has been very random for me and if it is the case that it is a ‘enough damage for credit’ then it is bugged.

Sometimes I can be hitting the gate (without ram) right from the start and not get credit. And sometimes I can hit it for 2 seconds when it’s at 1% left with a whole zerg hitting on it with rams and still get credit for it.

Rams will like almost always give you credit towards the achievement. By just hitting with weapons is harder indeed. As soon as you are with a guild group or not a big zerg/blob you can get it easily. Just keep hitting the gate with all youre damage skills.

Actualy u have to hit the gate with the ram + do some melee damage or use atlast once the skill 2 on ram. I had the same problem

FluffyFox.2756:

Ah, I’ve seen people dropping FGS’s before, but they just get picked up so fast xD I’ll have to ask specifically, then. Thanks!

Drop your own. You can kick ppl off your own siege.

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

Except none of the developers seem to have read any of the threads in the bug forum. This is incorrect. One can ram a gate down by themselves and not receive an advancement in the achievement. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Bugs-Affecting-Season-1-Achievement-Progress

This achievement progress is kind of inconsistent.

I got this once, just once, by just using meteor showers on a southern tower’s gate.

I was distracting an enemy zerg by making them focus their attention on that tower, and running away when their group came. I must have used about 20 meteor showers that way, and they came 3 or 4 times.

Some time later, our own advance party came along and took the gate down with rams, and I got credit. But I wasn’t anywhere near there. I was all the way to the north, defending the northern camp.

Zackie.8923:

the threshold is a bit high in my opinion

The threshold is less than 1% of the gate’s total health. If you can’t meet that threshold, you can hardly claim credit for tearing it down.

doing PVD i never got the achievenment to ping. maybe in smaller groups where you hit it more often, idk.

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

That is kind of hard to do, when your not trying to put up Swords on a keep, um, allowing only the siege to do damage, which I believe is a viable tactic, hope to kitten, now that I’ve mentioned this, it isn’t some sort of exploit.

The threshold is way too high. You are screwing support, condition classes, and people who don’t run in groups. I have yet to get a single point and I’ve tried rams and rushing into door with fgs 4 multiple times, on so many doors.

So something strange happened yesterday. red was trebbing a green tower, but there were no reds ready to storm in when the wall was down. We (blue) however were. The moment the wal was down we stormed in and my demolition expert popped up and said that I had completed it. So it dinged while I didn’t do any damage to the wall but was near it when it broke. This contradicts what Devon said.

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

The treshhold is too high for people who don’t get into groups… You literally need to get into a group with a dedicated rammer/catapultist or you’ll never get credit for this…

And if you wanna try ramming for it solo, you need to hope the ram you place gets built first, cause 6 ram hits on a paper door isn’t enough to get the reward (for those who never rammed, that’s 48k damage, so no way you can non-siege dps that high).

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

I have to say it must be bugged, I’ve been on occassions where I have been the ram user and hit the gate plenty of times, at least lets say 3 times, that’s atleast 24k damage and I don’t get credit/wxp when the gate is downed (I believe those situations are when I was partyless too).

Whereas I’ve been in parties that just DPS the gate and manage to get credit. And we hit for only 60 or so damage or hit. I would suppose in total in the end the entire party would have done something like 2.5k damage if even close. 24k loses to 2.5k, simply doesn’t make sense.

You think if there was a damage threshold, a single ram hit would have breached it but it doesn’t.

edit:

I have a weird theory that the threshold scales based on party size or so. If you are on your own, even sometimes using the ram, you won’t get credit. At the same time, if you are in a full 5 man party that just DPS’s the gate, you’ll get credit because the threshold gets lowered to share amongst your party.

(figures aren’t accurate but it feels like)
1 man team = 10% total gate damage
5 man team = 1-2% total gate damage

EnemyCrusher.7324:

Zackie.8923:

the threshold is a bit high in my opinion

The threshold is less than 1% of the gate’s total health. If you can’t meet that threshold, you can hardly claim credit for tearing it down.

The only problem with your statement is that lets say the threshold is 5K dmg. You are in a 50 men zerg and you got 1 ram hitting the door, the other 49 ppl barehand dps the door. Just assume for a second that all those 49 players hit for 4,5k dmg during the time the gate falls. That means none of you are worthy enough (except the ramming guy) to get reward for taking down the gate, though all that dmg adding up really did contribute to taking down that gate. Thats why ppl are saying the threshold is too high.

That being said, I play a conditionmancer (low dps on inanimate objects) and even I was able to get 22/30 without using rams, catas or anything else in 3 active wvw days, so I dont think it would be that insanely hard to get this achievement. My thief,warrior, berserk mesmer friends got it in 1 day just by barehanding doors.

Another reason, why they should lower the threshold or either remove this achievement for the next season, is because it does more harm than good for your server. People with no ram masteries trying to get in rams to get the achievement thus slowing down the process of capturing a tower/keep/castle. Another way of them getting it is placing their own ram and wasting other players supplies in the zerg.
You could say the same about the sentry cap achievement (half of the zerg is lost during an attack/defend due to capping sentries), but lets not get carried away from topic.

DevonCarver.5370:

Orion is correct, you will need to have done enough damage to the gate to get credit for the achievement.

I guess the 20k++ damage I’ve done to the gate while using a ram for around 3/4ths of the gate’s total health is not enough damage.

I would just love to know how much is enough damage. Just so that I dont waste my time on something that is clearly broken.

I have received absolutely zero credit after the first day (I got FIVE), when all I’ve been doing was hitting it with ele F1 autoattack and Lava Fonts.

I think it’s bugged. I have used a ram several times and I am stuck at 5…doesn’t seem to advance….how much % of damage do you need to get credit?

i don’t think it is working as intended or it’s bugged or something. i am sitting on 3/50 now but i have no idea how i get 3 even after i downed so many gates. it feels like rng.

merc camp is still not working either. killed hyleks orge etc but still nothing. i got the event completion notification but not for the living story achievement.

please look into this thanks!

It seems not possible to get it from just hitting the door, so now everyne enrages commanders by dropping 5 rams on each door since everyone needs achievement. And even if you do man a ram and do the hits, it still might not trigger if multiple rams are hitting and you did not get last hit (or seem so).

Sentry Capturer Extraordinaire
Mists Merc Camp Vanquisher
Demolition Expert
Seasonal Mists Defense Restorer

and to lesser degree
Supplies Severed

Are achivements that HARM WvW process. Since there is no defensive achivements, all people do is ride the zerg train. Since there are grindy achivements to repair, capture camps and sentry, destroy walls – people do pointless/harmfull activities for sake of finishing them.

Also i dont quite get the logic of designer behind those achivements – “capture” achivements, including SM and Keeps and kills achivement: are rather easy to get, while those should be the Main ones.

Secondary importance achievements like Sentries, Repairs, Mercs – on opposite are way to grindy. People have to go out of their way of normal gameplay and grind them if they want to finish them in time.

This is the most grindy achievement due to not working 100% of times.

The devs explanation is NOT correct.

It is not based on damage, it is based on who DESTROYS the gate. you get credit if you are the person to actually break the gate down.

This is obviously much more likely to occur with a ram, but you can easily test it as I did this morning. If I used a ram the entire time but stopped and didn’t get the final hit then no credit. If I sat on the ram and did no damage but then broke down the gate by correctly timing the final hit I got credit.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

The devs explanation is NOT correct.

It is not based on damage, it is based on who DESTROYS the gate. you get credit if you are the person to actually break the gate down.

This is obviously much more likely to occur with a ram, but you can easily test it as I did this morning. If I used a ram the entire time but stopped and didn’t get the final hit then no credit. If I sat on the ram and did no damage but then broke down the gate by correctly timing the final hit I got credit.

This seems to be the most likely explanation for this problem.

This Achievement is either not working properly, or is working and just tedious.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

The devs explanation is NOT correct.

It is not based on damage, it is based on who DESTROYS the gate. you get credit if you are the person to actually break the gate down.

This is obviously much more likely to occur with a ram, but you can easily test it as I did this morning. If I used a ram the entire time but stopped and didn’t get the final hit then no credit. If I sat on the ram and did no damage but then broke down the gate by correctly timing the final hit I got credit.

so it’s based on last hit? ….