Do I HAVE TO Pve to get a decent backpack ?
Is it impossible to get a better backpack ( other than the sub par guild backpack ) in wvw ?
yes
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You have to walk to a temple and spend 42k karma.
You have to walk to a temple and spend 42k karma.
Or, you need to do Fractals for an even better one.
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yay ascended backpiece for badges/laurels can we please have this?
I wish we could at least get the 42k karma one in SM till that happens. – whomever holds sm, gets the karma merchant.
I wish we could at least get the 42k karma one in SM till that happens. – whomever holds sm, gets the karma merchant.
Please stop making sense, there is no place for this in WvW.
Where’s my WvW ascended weapons as well?
I HATE PvE…..I’ve still yet to run 1 fractal
I did do my 1st dungeon run last week or so…….ugh
Where’s my WvW ascended weapons as well?
I HATE PvE…..I’ve still yet to run 1 fractal
I did do my 1st dungeon run last week or so…….ugh
You don’t have to pve to get ascended weapons (unless you’re actually counting crafting as pve, or killing supervisors/lords as pve). You just have to be a very patient masochist. All of the mats can drop from WvW (although everything except the empyreal fragments will take much longer), and you can buy the other stuff (including the 500 crafting) with all of that glorious 90% less money than you’d have made if you had done pve instead.
Ascended backpieces are the only thing you physically can not get, period, without pve. The other pieces are just a lot easier and/or faster to get from pve, they’re at least possible to get from wvw.
i can understand pve for skins – but not for stats. – wvw isn’t just end game – to some of us it IS the game – for arguments sake, guildwars 2 is 2 games – a pve game and a pvp game. thats what I thought was the whole idea of – If you like mmorpgs you will love guildwars2 , if you DON’T like mmorpgs you’ll love guildwars 2. – insisting a pver or a pvpr do something other than pvp or pve for stats goes against this philosophy.
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Ever since I can remember -and I’ve been playing mmo pvp since it was only available in dos – high damage builds are the preferred choice in pvp – and they don’t work in pve – The skill was developed in avoiding taking damage, proper positioning, timing and having the ability to spike your opponent, solo or with a team. Insisting pve goes against the grain of this very core concept of pvp and the chess aspect of pvp. – especially since all the dungeons are instakill without the right amount of defense. Otherwise the pvp fights are inefficient and last way too long with low damage and high defense. The logistics to the ascended items are not correct if they are to be included in wvw. a pvp based area of the game.
Dodging a bullet is what makes a skilled pvpr – not having a bullet bounce off his chest from armor. spells, tactics and timing are the pvprs armor.
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Where’s my WvW ascended weapons as well?
I HATE PvE…..I’ve still yet to run 1 fractal
I did do my 1st dungeon run last week or so…….ugh
You don’t have to pve to get ascended weapons (unless you’re actually counting crafting as pve, or killing supervisors/lords as pve). You just have to be a very patient masochist. All of the mats can drop from WvW (although everything except the empyreal fragments will take much longer), and you can buy the other stuff (including the 500 crafting) with all of that glorious 90% less money than you’d have made if you had done pve instead.
Ascended backpieces are the only thing you physically can not get, period, without pve. The other pieces are just a lot easier and/or faster to get from pve, they’re at least possible to get from wvw.
Uhh I’m sorry forgot WvW yields the same as PvE……………………….
Where’s my WvW ascended weapons as well?
I HATE PvE…..I’ve still yet to run 1 fractal
I did do my 1st dungeon run last week or so…….ugh
Friend of mine got a “Leftpaw’s Weapon Chest” in a WvW Rank-Up chest, where he could choose 1 ascended weapon with settler’s stats.
Sure you gotta be lucky as hell, even more if you want the ascended weapon with the right stats. But there are ascended weapons in WvW aswell.
Where’s my WvW ascended weapons as well?
I HATE PvE…..I’ve still yet to run 1 fractal
I did do my 1st dungeon run last week or so…….ugh
You don’t have to pve to get ascended weapons (unless you’re actually counting crafting as pve, or killing supervisors/lords as pve). You just have to be a very patient masochist. All of the mats can drop from WvW (although everything except the empyreal fragments will take much longer), and you can buy the other stuff (including the 500 crafting) with all of that glorious 90% less money than you’d have made if you had done pve instead.
Ascended backpieces are the only thing you physically can not get, period, without pve. The other pieces are just a lot easier and/or faster to get from pve, they’re at least possible to get from wvw.
Uhh I’m sorry forgot WvW yields the same as PvE……………………….
I like the part where you stopped reading after “you don’t have to pve to get ascended weapons.” I already mentioned the fact that wvw drops are garbage compared to pve. Please try to keep up.
yes. you MUST grind fractals. if you are lucky you will get the vial of essence after 5. if you are like others, it will take 20 fractals. anet has said that they know what’s good for us, and we must try other content to optimize game enjoyment.
optimize game enjoyment ? what am I, a laptop ? i just want to pvp with best specs.
key ingredients to all those recipes are a pve grind.
the idea to get us to play different parts of the game, is to let us play in the area that we want to play – till we want to explore another area for a change – not force us to stop to be up to spec.
it feels like we have to play 100 games of old maid before we can get a decent game of poker.
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optimize game enjoyment ? what am I, a laptop ? i just want to pvp with best specs.
Don’t blame me. That’s their point of view. You cannot possible reach GW2 maximum fulfillment until you run 10-20 fractals.
yes. you MUST grind fractals. if you are lucky you will get the vial of essence after 5. if you are like others, it will take 20 fractals. anet has said that they know what’s good for us, and we must try other content to optimize game enjoyment.
I’ve seen people get multiple globs in the first run. They are rareish, but most people get them before fractal level 10. Fractals take about an hour for the first 5 levels if you have 1 person who knows what they are doing. 5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
yes. you MUST grind fractals. if you are lucky you will get the vial of essence after 5. if you are like others, it will take 20 fractals. anet has said that they know what’s good for us, and we must try other content to optimize game enjoyment.
I’ve seen people get multiple globs in the first run. They are rareish, but most people get them before fractal level 10. Fractals take about an hour for the first 5 levels if you have 1 person who knows what they are doing. 5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
So you know what’s good for me too? Whatever happened to “play how you want,” or is that only for pve queens? Lol 5 hours of crap I hate to get the best gear. Thanks nanny!
5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
What the kitten sort of attitude is that?
You want to [insert pleasant activity]?
You just need to spend 5 hours cleaning the toilet first. It won’t kill you!
You have to grind, that is the total opposite of anets philosophy in the beginning. I still remember them saying, we do not like grind… Yeah right….
Running a few fracs is not grinding. If you had to do fracs 5 hours a day for 5 months to get 1 vial of mist…that would be grinding.
If they ever did add ascended back piece to the WvW laurel vendor I can guarantee that it would still be quicker to run the fracs and buy the mats than it would be to save the x amount of laurels/badges/ectos they would ask for it. And lets be honest they would not make it cheap.
And then ever one would be crying about how laurels are too slow, not alt friendly blah blah blah
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Doing fractals is just for the ascended backpiece.
You can get exotic items from the temples, if you’ve been doing WvW you’ll have more than enough karma, you just have to run to Orr.
Running a few fracs is not grinding. If you had to do fracs 5 hours a day for 5 months to get 1 vial of mist…that would be grinding.
If they ever did add ascended back piece to the WvW laurel vendor I can guarantee that it would still be quicker to run the fracs and buy the mats than it would be to save the x amount of laurels/badges/ectos they would ask for it. And lets be honest they would not make it cheap.
And then ever one would be crying about how laurels are too slow, not alt friendly blah blah blah
Don’t tell me what is grinding. One hour of doing something I hate is too much. I don’t care how long it would take in WvWvW. It would at least be enjoyable.
getting the exotic backpack is not as easy as running to orr – orr in my server is a dead place …no one goes there anymore since anet – ‘improved it?’ – you have to do the temple event – which can’t be done solo…….and if I hear find a guild one more time!! Arg – i’m was in 5 and each of them was like 5 out of 500 are on and the few that are on farm jormag- many of them transferred to other servers – so just running to orr will get you nothing but frustrated. The logistics are flawed and saying there is a quick and simple solution is just as bad as hearing ‘the check is in the mail’
5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
What the kitten sort of attitude is that?
You want to [insert pleasant activity]?
You just need to spend 5 hours cleaning the toilet first. It won’t kill you!
Sometimes if you want something you do have to work for it. IDK how people hate pve sooooo much. I am not a fan of sitting there and killing mobs, but if you don’t like fractals listen to something funny. Sit there and laugh at a comedian while you run your level 1 fractal. Bam, now you have something fun to do while you do something that isn’t all that difficult.
getting the exotic backpack is not as easy as running to orr – orr in my server is a dead place …no one goes there anymore since anet – ‘improved it?’ – you have to do the temple event – which can’t be done solo…….and if I hear find a guild one more time!! Arg – i’m was in 5 and each of them was like 5 out of 500 are on and the few that are on farm jormag- many of them transferred to other servers – so just running to orr will get you nothing but frustrated. The logistics are flawed and saying there is a quick and simple solution is just as bad as hearing ‘the check is in the mail’
Guest to any of the higher tier servers.
http://us.gw2stuff.com/en/events/us Use that website to find open temples. Now you don’t have to do the work and it is incredibly simple. It is a 4 minute walk. Surely people can handle that?
the problem imo with the game is that it’s built on what I called a “Perfect world scenario” where everyone gets along, likes playing the same way, logs on at the same time and wants to go to the same place – nothing can be further from the truth and if you wish to verify my theory – make Orr an open pvp area. It’s impossible to be a casual player and log on for 2-3 hours and experience all areas and items of the game. It’s near impossible to get a dungeon team that want’s to do a dungeon like a regular play – everyone wants to speed run. People don’t like to play by a standard and this “Perfect world” design is flawed in a huge way…..then to give it leagues in a pvp realm that stats are very important ? lol
look for a new server ? – flawed logistics.
5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
What the kitten sort of attitude is that?
You want to [insert pleasant activity]?
You just need to spend 5 hours cleaning the toilet first. It won’t kill you!
Sometimes if you want something you do have to work for it. IDK how people hate pve sooooo much. I am not a fan of sitting there and killing mobs, but if you don’t like fractals listen to something funny. Sit there and laugh at a comedian while you run your level 1 fractal. Bam, now you have something fun to do while you do something that isn’t all that difficult.
Fine, let me “work for it” in wvwvw as they promised they would. why did they fail to follow through on that promise.
look for a new server ? – flawed logistics.
No. You not using the tools ANet gave us to get what you need is being silly. Guest to another server. It is free and takes 2 seconds. Now you can get the junk you want. If you are too lazy to do that you should leave the forums. If nothing can please you say nothing, because it isn’t worth our time read the crap that you type.
5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
What the kitten sort of attitude is that?
You want to [insert pleasant activity]?
You just need to spend 5 hours cleaning the toilet first. It won’t kill you!
Sometimes if you want something you do have to work for it. IDK how people hate pve sooooo much. I am not a fan of sitting there and killing mobs, but if you don’t like fractals listen to something funny. Sit there and laugh at a comedian while you run your level 1 fractal. Bam, now you have something fun to do while you do something that isn’t all that difficult.
Fine, let me “work for it” in wvwvw as they promised they would. why did they fail to follow through on that promise.
I’m not saying they didn’t fail, but the solution to your problem is so easy that it is a non-issue. Don’t complain about something that could have been solved with 5 hours of work over the past 7 months or however long fractals have been around.
look for a new server ? – flawed logistics.
No. You not using the tools ANet gave us to get what you need is being silly. Guest to another server. It is free and takes 2 seconds. Now you can get the junk you want. If you are too lazy to do that you should leave the forums. If nothing can please you say nothing, because it isn’t worth our time read the crap that you type.
this is exactly the type of people I find in pve and I don’t want to play with, Anet – this is not a perfect world and we need ways to stay away from these guys. They are ruining your game.
getting the exotic backpack is not as easy as running to orr – orr in my server is a dead place …no one goes there anymore since anet – ‘improved it?’ – you have to do the temple event – which can’t be done solo…….and if I hear find a guild one more time!! Arg – i’m was in 5 and each of them was like 5 out of 500 are on and the few that are on farm jormag- many of them transferred to other servers – so just running to orr will get you nothing but frustrated. The logistics are flawed and saying there is a quick and simple solution is just as bad as hearing ‘the check is in the mail’
http://us.gw2stuff.com/en/events/us
Blue dot = open temple.
Currently open on Blackgate.
maybe multiple servers wasn’t the best idea. Thanks for the suggestion, I’d like to stick to my server, mainly because it has the friendliest people I’ve seen on the forum and in game. I’ll just have to wait till anet fixes it …or die trying solo …or maybe if I’m lucky – find a nice friendly team – and to my servers credit …we have them!! They are just not on all the time. Hopefully this thread will have made this issue apparent.
The pve content in the game is great – but getting to it is not fun at all, nor am I interested in doing the same dungeons 50x times over and over again simply to get what I need to do what I enjoy most, wvw.
maybe multiple servers wasn’t the best idea. Thanks for the suggestion, I’d like to stick to my server, mainly because it has the friendliest people I’ve seen on the forum and in game. I’ll just have to wait till anet fixes it …or die trying solo …or maybe if I’m lucky – find a nice friendly team – and to my servers credit …we have them!! They are just not on all the time. Hopefully this thread will have made this issue apparent.
The pve content in the game is great – but getting to it is not fun at all, nor am I interested in doing the same dungeons 50x times over and over again simply to get what I need to do what I enjoy most, wvw.
youre so obstinate. stop trolling.
you dont “leave your server” when you temporarily visit another for 5 minutes to find an instance that has something you need.
head here to discuss wvw without fear of infractions
please stop instigating – this is a legitimate issue – I had to stop wvw last night to figure out what to do with 1500 bloodstone items. I didn’t want to stop wvw and I want an ascended item for it’s specs ….not for it’s looks because it doesn’t look so hot.
I don’t like pve nor do I like higher up servers …I shouldn’t “HAVE TO” transfer to another server – which was the point of the thread “I” started.
getting the exotic backpack is not as easy as running to orr – orr in my server is a dead place …no one goes there anymore since anet – ‘improved it?’ – you have to do the temple event – which can’t be done solo…….and if I hear find a guild one more time!! Arg – i’m was in 5 and each of them was like 5 out of 500 are on and the few that are on farm jormag- many of them transferred to other servers – so just running to orr will get you nothing but frustrated. The logistics are flawed and saying there is a quick and simple solution is just as bad as hearing ‘the check is in the mail’
http://us.gw2stuff.com/en/events/us
Blue dot = open temple.
Currently open on Blackgate.
And what this highlights is that 95% of the time, you’ll only see Lyssa (Magi) and Dwayna (Rabid) open on any servers. The next most common is Balthazar (Cavalier), and it is pretty rare. When I log in I generally check as I’ve been looking for Melandru and Grenth to be open somewhere, and it’s been weeks that I’ve checked at the time I play and I’ve yet to see them open.
It was an easy means to obtain exotic armor, but it no longer is a reliable one. My general go to link for outfitting an 80 with karma has been here:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Equipment_acquisition_by_stats#Karma
As far as backpacks, as a WvW player with no dungeon/fractal interest at all, it is something I accepted as not having beyond Rare, and definitely not at Ascended. The problem will come as more and more Ascended items come into the game.
5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
What the kitten sort of attitude is that?
You want to [insert pleasant activity]?
You just need to spend 5 hours cleaning the toilet first. It won’t kill you!
Sometimes if you want something you do have to work for it. IDK how people hate pve sooooo much. I am not a fan of sitting there and killing mobs, but if you don’t like fractals listen to something funny. Sit there and laugh at a comedian while you run your level 1 fractal. Bam, now you have something fun to do while you do something that isn’t all that difficult.
Fine, let me “work for it” in wvwvw as they promised they would. why did they fail to follow through on that promise.
I’m not saying they didn’t fail, but the solution to your problem is so easy that it is a non-issue. Don’t complain about something that could have been solved with 5 hours of work over the past 7 months or however long fractals have been around.
it’s not necessarily 5 hours of work. i’ve had many friends who had to grind well in excess of 10 fractals. some of us hate that garbage, and I refuse to do crap I hate in the hope that something I must have MIGHT drop. guarantee me a drop on the 5th, and I would do it.
5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
What the kitten sort of attitude is that?
You want to [insert pleasant activity]?
You just need to spend 5 hours cleaning the toilet first. It won’t kill you!
Sometimes if you want something you do have to work for it. IDK how people hate pve sooooo much. I am not a fan of sitting there and killing mobs, but if you don’t like fractals listen to something funny. Sit there and laugh at a comedian while you run your level 1 fractal. Bam, now you have something fun to do while you do something that isn’t all that difficult.
Fine, let me “work for it” in wvwvw as they promised they would. why did they fail to follow through on that promise.
I’m not saying they didn’t fail, but the solution to your problem is so easy that it is a non-issue. Don’t complain about something that could have been solved with 5 hours of work over the past 7 months or however long fractals have been around.
it’s not necessarily 5 hours of work. i’ve had many friends who had to grind well in excess of 10 fractals. some of us hate that garbage, and I refuse to do crap I hate in the hope that something I must have MIGHT drop. guarantee me a drop on the 5th, and I would do it.
10 hours of work over months is still nothing. Lets pretend you have 7 hours of free time each day of the week on average, even though I am sure you have much more. Over the course of all of those months you would have roughly 1500 free hours in which you can get that back piece. You are telling me that you can’t manage to do that? You are being silly.
it’s apparent for wvw to really flourish – a bigger separation from pve is necessary – as an old school pvp’r – I do enjoy dungeons – they are a fun adventure, something to enjoy and discover 1nce or 2wice – not haunt till i have more loot than I can handle. I’d rather grind for skill in pvp / wvw. Skins belong to pve – because that’s ultimately what they grind for …or at least should be grinding for – Stats belong to PVP because player skills is what we grind for, and should not be distracted. Skins in PVP just shows that we like pve also…not make a pve’r better equipped because they can’t pvp.
5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
What the kitten sort of attitude is that?
You want to [insert pleasant activity]?
You just need to spend 5 hours cleaning the toilet first. It won’t kill you!
Sometimes if you want something you do have to work for it. IDK how people hate pve sooooo much. I am not a fan of sitting there and killing mobs, but if you don’t like fractals listen to something funny. Sit there and laugh at a comedian while you run your level 1 fractal. Bam, now you have something fun to do while you do something that isn’t all that difficult.
Fine, let me “work for it” in wvwvw as they promised they would. why did they fail to follow through on that promise.
I’m not saying they didn’t fail, but the solution to your problem is so easy that it is a non-issue. Don’t complain about something that could have been solved with 5 hours of work over the past 7 months or however long fractals have been around.
it’s not necessarily 5 hours of work. i’ve had many friends who had to grind well in excess of 10 fractals. some of us hate that garbage, and I refuse to do crap I hate in the hope that something I must have MIGHT drop. guarantee me a drop on the 5th, and I would do it.
10 hours of work over months is still nothing. Lets pretend you have 7 hours of free time each day of the week on average, even though I am sure you have much more. Over the course of all of those months you would have roughly 1500 free hours in which you can get that back piece. You are telling me that you can’t manage to do that? You are being silly.
10 hours of torture? yes. I am telling you I can’t manage to do that. fractals literally make me want to uninstall. in addition, why should I be forced to do garbage I hate? why can’t they just let the essence vial drop in wvw? why is that so difficult? why must they punish people who hate fractals? is it pride, stubborness or a sense of superiority that makes them think they know what’s good for us? why did they lie about everything being achievable in wvw?
speak for yourself. just because you like pve garbage, doesn’t give you the right to force it down everyone else’s throats.
5 hours of PvE is not going to kill you.
What the kitten sort of attitude is that?
You want to [insert pleasant activity]?
You just need to spend 5 hours cleaning the toilet first. It won’t kill you!
Sometimes if you want something you do have to work for it. IDK how people hate pve sooooo much. I am not a fan of sitting there and killing mobs, but if you don’t like fractals listen to something funny. Sit there and laugh at a comedian while you run your level 1 fractal. Bam, now you have something fun to do while you do something that isn’t all that difficult.
Fine, let me “work for it” in wvwvw as they promised they would. why did they fail to follow through on that promise.
I’m not saying they didn’t fail, but the solution to your problem is so easy that it is a non-issue. Don’t complain about something that could have been solved with 5 hours of work over the past 7 months or however long fractals have been around.
it’s not necessarily 5 hours of work. i’ve had many friends who had to grind well in excess of 10 fractals. some of us hate that garbage, and I refuse to do crap I hate in the hope that something I must have MIGHT drop. guarantee me a drop on the 5th, and I would do it.
10 hours of work over months is still nothing. Lets pretend you have 7 hours of free time each day of the week on average, even though I am sure you have much more. Over the course of all of those months you would have roughly 1500 free hours in which you can get that back piece. You are telling me that you can’t manage to do that? You are being silly.
10 hours of torture? yes. I am telling you I can’t manage to do that. fractals literally make me want to uninstall. in addition, why should I be forced to do garbage I hate? why can’t they just let the essence vial drop in wvw? why is that so difficult? why must they punish people who hate fractals? is it pride, stubborness or a sense of superiority that makes them think they know what’s good for us? why did they lie about everything being achievable in wvw?
speak for yourself. just because you like pve garbage, doesn’t give you the right to force it down everyone else’s throats.
It isn’t my right, it is the developers right. Most people don’t hate them like you do. You are in the very vocal minority. If you have a problem with back pieces, have an issue with the fact that they cost 60 gold to make. The vial is a non-issue.
I think if Anet made the requirements of the WVW version ascended backpacks and items to be based on rank – ie – to get x item – you need to be level 50+ in wvw ….this will prevent the pve looters from exploiting it and leaving it to dedicated wvw’rs.
don’t respond to the instigators, they are part of why we dislike pve so much – don’t let them ruin the thread. It’s a valid point.
don’t respond to the instigators, they are part of why we dislike pve so much – don’t let them ruin the thread. It’s a valid point.
Let’s not forget the good ole times when there would be 50 posts a week on why wvw is map completion, or why do they have to grind for BoH. Anet fixed those quite fast in comparison to the broken things in wvw and they still come on wvw forums and basically say their game mode is superior it’s not the fact we have to grind or save/spend money. It’s the fact that we have to grind the part of the game we dislike, just like many pve players hate wvw. We don’t care if you do and you shouldn’t care that we have pve, but stop thinking that everything must be done in pve when there’s no reason for it to be. I would much rather grind 500 hours of wvw where I’m having fun and enjoying my time, then spend 10 hours hating my time on the game for doing contnt I dislike. Much like you guys with map completion and BoH for you before.
don’t respond to the instigators, they are part of why we dislike pve so much – don’t let them ruin the thread. It’s a valid point.
the only reason this thread isnt buried on the 2nd page is because of the argument you have going on. you are being told constantly to man up and all you can manage to do is whine more and refuse to check websites once in a while or go spend a little time outside of wvw.
head here to discuss wvw without fear of infractions
please stop instigating – when we purchased the game, we were told we could play how we want. Thanks.