Guild Wars 2

Hi I’m pretty familiar with the meta’s in WvW on NA servers but I have always wondered how the meta on the EU side is. I know there is metabattle but I believe that is NA meta builds does eu have a similar place and if so where could I find it. I love learning about different builds so I can get inspiration for my personal builds

thanks

Played on both NA and EU T1 for quite some time. The meta is the same (GWEN) with pretty much the same builds (guilds run slight variations of the meta builds). Roamers use the same builds on both servers too.

There’re some differences between server/guild metas (siege-heavy, melee-heavy, ranged-heavy, roamer-heavy) but the builds stay the same.

from my brief vacation to EU, It was my experience that NA players are running tankier than their EU counterparts.

Your average NA player would run a lot more un-necessary tankiness than your average EU player, who would be balls to the wall berserker .

IMO the skill level was higher in EU as well. Even in T4 EU you find a more serious attitude to the players in WvW that is not seen in NA until you reach the boundary of T3/2.

Haven’t experienced NA WvW yet, but EU is mostly large GWEN trains with a light splattering of Rangers. Solo roaming is almost exclusively Thief territory now. Small group roaming is almost completely dead and those of us that do continue to roam as a small group are basically experts at zerg dismantling because that’s basically all that is left to do.

Simonoly.4352:

Haven’t experienced NA WvW yet, but EU is mostly large GWEN trains with a light splattering of Rangers. Solo roaming is almost exclusively Thief territory now. Small group roaming is almost completely dead and those of us that do continue to roam as a small group are basically experts at zerg dismantling because that’s basically all that is left to do.

I mostly agree with you. But! Just because gandara plays against 2 of the most boring servers in this matchup does not mean roaming is dead…

EU tier 1 & 2 zerg/gvg meta:
shout warrior (hammer/sw+wh, sometimes hammer+gs, Melandru/Hoelbrak/Trooper runes)
shout guardian (staff / hammer or gs)
staff + wells necromancer
staff elementalist

In addition to this most good GvG teams use mesmers for utility (veil, portal) & flank the rears and thieves to snipe enemy stragglers and flanks. Sometimes LB rangers can also been sniping.

EU t1 & t2 roaming meta (in order of frequency):
D/P “perma” stealth thief
P/D condi thief (often perplexity)
shatter burst GS mesmer
meditation guardian
D/D celestial might stacking elementalist
read the wind LB ranger
mobility GS warrior
bomb or grenade kit pistol/shield engineer (usually semi condi bunker)

In addition these you might run into condi/regen rangers and condi mesmers.

from my 3k hours roaming in T8-T5… EU meta is building kitten builds, then when getting #rekt flaming your opponent for building “lame cheese” and “having no skills”. Or gangs of stealthing scrubs who are expert on soft-rezzing and ganking 3v1 minimum into corpse jumping. Decent roamers are so 2013.

no one roams on power necro anymore qq

Kuunan.6473:

no one roams on power necro anymore qq

I roam on my staff/dagger/dagger necro, so far i havent met another necro like me roaming. Its always Mesmers, Thiefs or in general condi builds

Static Discharge engi for the win! By far the funnest build I’ve played on any profession.

DonEllz.6312:

Static Discharge engi for the win! By far the funnest build I’ve played on any profession.

with thief and mesmer with you it’s fun, y =))

kitten =p

On Fissure of Woe, most people roam. I have seen about everything possible…

Guardian:
- Meditations very frequent and strong
- Shout builds still running for the group support
- Zero consecration guardians in the last 2 months

Warrior:
- Condi bunker one of the strongest builds
- Also the GS “Usain Bolt” still popular
- Stunlock build paired with GS-Axe/shield

Elementalist:
- Mostly d/d eles running celestial builds
- Most of the other builds are not very viable
- Couple of staff bunkers

Thief:
- Either condi running p/d and d/d
- Either high stealth build using s/d, d/p, d/d

Mesmer:
- Blackwater build for those who are familiar (PU, condi build)
- Shatter mesmers

Engineer:
- More CC engineers than used to be, rifles!
- Standard condi build still up
- A couple of healing-focused engis around too

Ranger:
- Tanky s/t – a/d
- PEWPEW longbow spammer
- Condi stacker

Necromancer (not my expertise at all: can’t really comment)

Kraljevo.2801:

Simonoly.4352:

Haven’t experienced NA WvW yet, but EU is mostly large GWEN trains with a light splattering of Rangers. Solo roaming is almost exclusively Thief territory now. Small group roaming is almost completely dead and those of us that do continue to roam as a small group are basically experts at zerg dismantling because that’s basically all that is left to do.

I mostly agree with you. But! Just because gandara plays against 2 of the most boring servers in this matchup does not mean roaming is dead…

It’s true. They are so boring. Help us please!

Hopefully next MU will be FSP, Gandara and Deso, then you will not be bored xD. I am looking forward to fighting my old friends in TUP and CNTK.

Deniara Devious.3948:

EU tier 1 & 2 zerg/gvg meta:
shout warrior (hammer/sw+wh, sometimes hammer+gs, Melandru/Hoelbrak/Trooper runes)
shout guardian (staff / hammer or gs)
staff + wells necromancer
staff elementalist

EU kitten roaming meta (in order of frequency):
D/P “perma” stealth thief
P/D condi thief (often perplexity)
shatter burst GS mesmer
meditation guardian
D/D celestial might stacking elementalist
read the wind LB ranger
mobility GS warrior
bomb or grenade kit pistol/shield engineer (usually semi condi bunker)

In addition these you might run into condi/regen rangers and condi mesmers.

Nailed it! Same for the US servers. Condi meta is ridiculously strong in roaming and ranged pressure with a frontline is the zerg meta.

I run a power P/P thief build now out of shear boredom (fun build but brittle) since we have been stuck with the same meta for over a year now.