Guild Wars 2

reetings,

January 9th was the end of our public testing of the new Edge of the Mists Map. This was our first time inviting people to play a portion of our game in active development and without NDA restrictions. The people playing the map and providing their feedback helped us make several important decisions while allowing us to test the new content in as close to a live environment as possible. It is not an exaggeration to say we couldn’t have brought the map to the quality level it has reached without their help!
To pull out a specific example, our original plan was for each matchup to have its own version of the new map. As we tested out the map with various numbers of players and spoke with the members of the test, it became clear to us that the ideal approach was to group all of the NA players into one group and all EU players into another: meaning that all NA blue worlds will fight side-by-side with each other on the blue Edge of the Mists team. These kinds of decisions, and others, were ones we couldn’t have come to without getting the map in front of the large number of players that we saw over the course of the test, and without your feedback on the official forum!
When the Edge of the Mists does release, I hope everyone here is as excited to play a map that your fellow WvW players helped create as we are.

Cheers,

Devon Carver

For those who missed the most important part.

" As we tested out the map with various numbers of players and spoke with the members of the test, it became clear to us that the ideal approach was to group all of the NA players into one group and all EU players into another: meaning that all NA blue worlds will fight side-by-side with each other on the blue Edge of the Mists team. "

Very interesting information, basically you have the oppurtunity to fight with or against anyone other than your own server

The WvW-GvG will now shift to the Edge of the Mists. The GvG community has to establish an area on the map reserved for large-scale GvG tournaments.

The new map is now much more alluring for servers with very low WvW population. There will be even fights between the colors most of the time.

but can go people on this map when dont have full normal maps?

cause all i know bout this maps is they should be something like overflow for WvW – or im wrong?

Edge of the Mists is too late. It’s somthing that should of been implemented long ago. A-Net spent more of its resources on SPVP than it should of and neglected WvW more than it should of. Every game out there has PVP and team vs team not every game out there has WvW. WvW is the real draw to GW2 and it wasn’t realized by A-Net until player populations started dwindling and WvW became stagnant do to it. Now A-NET is finally getting the picture but there needs to be a lot more than this I feel entire server merges are coming at some point its just a matter or time.

Almost no servers have WvW ques anymore except maybe on shuffle night and thats it so how is this any useful anymore.

Romek.4201:

but can go people on this map when dont have full normal maps?

cause all i know bout this maps is they should be something like overflow for WvW – or im wrong?

You can use the new map as a waiting room while queuing for a traditional map. You can also enter EotM straightaway and play there without ever touching the other maps.

This bring fun back in www. There will be less blobbing because everybody isn’t in same TS or at least blobs are much less organized so smaller guilds can have fun too.

Junkpile.7439:

This bring fun back in www. There will be less blobbing because everybody isn’t in same TS or at least blobs are much less organized so smaller guilds can have fun too.

Most of the map is karma trains, sadly. It’s not really that interesting as far as I’m concerned.

Sirendor.1394:

Junkpile.7439:

This bring fun back in www. There will be less blobbing because everybody isn’t in same TS or at least blobs are much less organized so smaller guilds can have fun too.

Most of the map is karma trains, sadly. It’s not really that interesting as far as I’m concerned.

Karma train drops loot just like other trains.

Junkpile.7439:

Sirendor.1394:

Junkpile.7439:

This bring fun back in www. There will be less blobbing because everybody isn’t in same TS or at least blobs are much less organized so smaller guilds can have fun too.

Most of the map is karma trains, sadly. It’s not really that interesting as far as I’m concerned.

Karma train drops loot just like other trains.

Yet they are not fun. They just blob under a commander, and the enemy sides aswell. There wasn’t a lot of space for organized small groups, because they either got blobbed themselves, or had nothing to do because most of the objectives are ment for 20+ people.

Warlord.9074:

Edge of the Mists is too late. It’s somthing that should of been implemented long ago. A-Net spent more of its resources on SPVP than it should of and neglected WvW more than it should of. Every game out there has PVP and team vs team not every game out there has WvW. WvW is the real draw to GW2 and it wasn’t realized by A-Net until player populations started dwindling and WvW became stagnant do to it. Now A-NET is finally getting the picture but there needs to be a lot more than this I feel entire server merges are coming at some point its just a matter or time.

Almost no servers have WvW ques anymore except maybe on shuffle night and thats it so how is this any useful anymore.

they spent no resource at all on spvp – dont lie here

all they do is always saying something is coming in next 2-3 months but they never did anythign for spvp

Belenwyn.8674:

Romek.4201:

but can go people on this map when dont have full normal maps?

cause all i know bout this maps is they should be something like overflow for WvW – or im wrong?

You can use the new map as a waiting room while queuing for a traditional map. You can also enter EotM straightaway and play there without ever touching the other maps.

lol how useless – than why not make all maps like this^^

noone will join for normal map

@Romek

They spent a lot of resources at spvp – do not ignore the facts.

They are revamping the reward structure, the pvp cloths and adding boards. First wave of changes is already out. Next will come soon. They already showed prototype maps for new modes.

first wave?
was adding a number at rewards when win a game (15-30 silver) and a npc selling things we had allraedy ingame for glory + gold

this is 30 min work for 1 guy – dont call this a “wave”

and other things is just saying this will come like they do since release but never did

Romek.4201:

Belenwyn.8674:

Romek.4201:

but can go people on this map when dont have full normal maps?

cause all i know bout this maps is they should be something like overflow for WvW – or im wrong?

You can use the new map as a waiting room while queuing for a traditional map. You can also enter EotM straightaway and play there without ever touching the other maps.

lol how useless – than why not make all maps like this^^

noone will join for normal map

Normal maps are PPT maps and PPT just ruin every fight.

Sounds like a step in the right direction, really looking forward to it.

edit: ahh ok thanks for clarification

Belenwyn.8674:

The WvW-GvG will now shift to the Edge of the Mists. The GvG community has to establish an area on the map reserved for large-scale GvG tournaments.

The new map is now much more alluring for servers with very low WvW population. There will be even fights between the colors most of the time.

Since it’s all a series of overflows, good luck getting your whole gvg team in on the same overflow. That’s the problem here. There’s no real reason to move GvG to this map, nor is there really anywhere you’d want to do it.

Nornbearpig and Zhonnika, read the original post that quotes Devon Carter:
“…meaning that all NA blue worlds will fight side-by-side with each other on the blue Edge of the Mists team.”

You will always be in the same team your guild is.

same team does not mean same same map

How many instances of EotM that are out there at at time will depend on how popular it is on any given night. Reset nights might see 20 or more copies EotM out there so yeah, good luck to the larger guilds getting teams together in the same place but it is going to be fun for the small scale crowd if people decide to play the map spread out, which there is no guarantee they will. Personally, as much as I loved falling to my death all over the place (no seriously, I was having too much fun falling off things to actually test the game play properly) I am not sure I’ll be spending all that much time on EotM except when there are queues on my home server.

It is a pretty neat map for sure but there is a lot that remains to be seen about how the masses react to it. Maybe it will be harder to form mega zergs with teams who don’t know each others commanders as well and maybe it will evolve into the place for 5 and 10 man groups to roam around and cause havoc but that isn’t going to fly depending on how rewards are implemented since most will gravitate to efficiency regardless of fun.

we get to fight alongside other servers? NICE! now I get to fight alongside Gandarans

I’m super stoked for this. Finally get to wait somewhere useful when queuing for PvP.

Warlord.9074:

Almost no servers have WvW ques anymore except maybe on shuffle night and thats it so how is this any useful anymore.

Lol I wish…

Btw surely this won’t allow your fellow guildies to play with you. If there are countless overflows around no way you can get in the same one as everyone else. GvG will be impossible to organise so don’t get over excited.

DanyK.3842:

Warlord.9074:

Almost no servers have WvW ques anymore except maybe on shuffle night and thats it so how is this any useful anymore.

Lol I wish…

Btw surely this won’t allow your fellow guildies to play with you. If there are countless overflows around no way you can get in the same one as everyone else. GvG will be impossible to organise so don’t get over excited.

I assume you can still join just like the current Overflow system, and thinking about it, I think if a guild of 20+ people join around the same time theres a good chance they will be in the same overflow as 1 overflow is probably holding slots for about 80 + people although I dcould see some late coming guildies getting lost in other overflows if yours gets full

organizing a gvg though with another guild trying to get in the same overflow will likely be impossible, I expect once EOTM will be released people will be asking for an all NA linked version of the GvG arena, although how you all meet up in the same overflow will still be difficult

Just for the record, you can right click a party member and click join. This takes you to the overflow map they’re in. We used this a lot for the Living story, Teq, and really anywhere you encounter overflows. I imagine EotM will work the same.

Edit: Spehss beat me to it.

Belenwyn.8674:

@Romek

They spent a lot of resources at spvp – do not ignore the facts.

They are revamping the reward structure, the pvp cloths and adding boards. First wave of changes is already out. Next will come soon. They already showed prototype maps for new modes.

Yeah that is happening NOW, more than a year after launch. Nothing else has really happened for spvp, they barely spent resources on it and the team is small because of it.

Warlord.9074:

Edge of the Mists is too late. It’s somthing that should have been implemented long ago. A-Net spent more of its resources on PvE/Living Story than it should of and neglected WvW more than it should have.

Let me just fix that up for you.

WvW updates (i.e. bloodlust) came before sPvP changes.