Guild Wars 2

The topic about Vizunah nightcapping everything during the night, having alot of French Canadians, filling the walls with siege weapons and upgrading everything while the other 2 servers are asleep has been something Vizunah players have denied over and over.

This weekend Friday-Sunday, Far Shiverpeaks proved it. Since FS could play through the whole night, we held the lead during the whole weekend.

What happened during the night to monday? Far Shiverpeaks players had to go to sleep early, Vizunah captures all, takes all orbs, upgrades all keeps, fills the walls with sieges, and gets over 40k points during night, passing Far Shipverpeaks in the lead.

So ? You managed to fight on equal foot and take the lead during the week-end and that allows you to trashtalk about an entire server because they can play 24/7, using NASA records of some Canadian UFO as a proof ?

I’m not even on VS, but I’m starting to get tired of all those threads about how awesome FS is and how terrible VS (or “The French”) is. It reminds me of the LoL forums where everyone were trashtalking about how bad the french (or russian, or spanish, or whatever non-english player) were, closing their eyes as soon as those same french were carrying them, stating that only one failed game was enough as a proof to blame an entire community.

You’re like saying that you can handle a sprint and asking for ANet to change the 1-week marathon into a 2-days-daytime-only sprint, and that’s ridiculous.

It’s amazing how VS players denied the sole presence of Canadians and yet doring early hours all I can see are members of this 500 ppl Canadian guild zerging around while there is around 20 ppl from FS running around.

Come on, a 500 members hebrew speaking canadian guild on a GMT +1 timezone with a minimum age required of 35 ? And you’re not getting the troll ? I think I understand now…

OZtheWiZARD.2401:

It’s amazing how VS players denied the sole presence of Canadians and yet doring early hours all I can see are members of this 500 ppl Canadian guild zerging around while there is around 20 ppl from FS running around.

CaSu are irl friends and are trolling you ALL !

http://www.casugaming.com/

start to be really tired

1st picture. saturday 12:25
2nd picture, saturday 15:51
3rd picture, saturday 16:49
4th picture, saturday 20:19
5th picture, sunday 0:41
6th picture, sunday 10:45
7th picture, sunday 12:21
8th picture, sunday 13:35
9th picture, sunday 14:51

and then…well you’ve seen what monday morning looked like. 100% VS.
then comes the day and we struggle through an army of upgraded fortresses and siege equipment.
10th picture, monday 13:29

Where’s the screenshots before saturday 12.25 and between sunday 0.41 and 10.45 ?

No comment Angel, you proved all my points with a few screenshots.
But hey that 500 member troll guild aint canadians or whateve alien race playing at night time’s !!!

Its just Dedicated mad skills pur WvW guilds who like to play versus gate and show the EU their wicked mad skills on the reinforced gate !!!

Bravo VS you guys are the creme de la creme of Europe well done and we admire you dedication on the night time to show us how leet you people are.

Again /golfclap

Toubzsky.6087:

Where’s the screenshots before saturday 12.25 and between sunday 0.41 and 10.45 ?

i was sleeping, ask someone who was online.

Toubzsky.6087:

Where’s the screenshots before saturday 12.25 and between sunday 0.41 and 10.45 ?

Hint : Nightcapped by FS, fair and square.

I’m not doing much WVW so far but as I sleep weird hours I check WVW for jump puzzles sometimes during night and there are always a ton of VS guys there say I enter at 2am 4am 6am or w/e gmt+1 and I always see a wall of red usually camping right outside the spawn. It’s quite insane. Either there is a zerg of people who work night which I doubt or there are lots of Canadian french playing on VS which sure is fine but don’t pretend it’s not happening. :p

I’ve posted this in suggestions but i’ll repeat it here too.

Night capping is easily fixed.

Just define night-time for each region (EU/NA/Oceanic) – say 2 – 8 am. Everything works the same, but objectives net 3 or 5 times less points than during primetime.
That’s it – no one stops you playing, but if you deliberately chose to play outside of your region (why would you even do that…), it won’t allow you to gain unfair advantage (and even in close games night capping might still help)

I’m not sure if they have French servers in NA, if not – adding one would be needed then

Also, would be nice to be able to “claim” keeps at night time (probably for guilds only), which could work like this:
1) Once night time starts, the first guild to claim a keep now has a 24-hour window in which it will get a 90% discount on re-upgrading the keep if it has been captured. And it will only work once. And this night, no other guild can “claim” this keep again, but they can capture and upgrade nonetheless.
So basically, you captured a keep at mindnight and successfully defended it till 2am. Now, “night time” starts, your guild claims the keep and logs off. During the night, it might have been captured and upgraded and then re-captured and re-upgraded, but once your guildies go online, if they successfully capture it back before the new nighttime starts – they can upgade again for much cheaper (but only once)

Bottom line – it’s a game, not real warfare, so it’s about having fun, not winning no matter what

even with that change they can fortify and upgrade their keeps all night making them impossible to recapture in “daytime”

well, but it’s a start, eh?

they could limit upgrades at “night time” as well. If you upgraded your keep in “prime time” and keep defending it over-night – your upgrades stay. If someone captures it – they can’t upgrade it till morning. This may be the case only with claimed keeps, for example.

Finding a server in your time zone is NOT a problem, why should these players be “protected” when they ruin the game for everyone else?

Why far shiverpeaks won this week end? oh maybe because of nightcapping.

Admit it you’ve got a hebrew canadians guild too.

@ersatz sounds like a good suggestion, sad that anet probably wont read it. :p

@Wiluz you are comparing smaller weaker servers ranked among the bottom of EU vs the 2nd ranked server of EU. Nuff said.

@wiluz

despite me not having any screenshots from nighttime that can be disproven quite easily. how? look at my 5th and 6th screenshots. one is 0:41 and the next is 10:45, then look what happens to the score.

that’s right…VS climbs closer in nighttime.

also that SS of yours is irrelevant and one of the first match ups we had. obviously we had 3 times more people than you in that match up.

At least you won’t be able to say that people can’t take back nightcapped forts.. Sunday morning, all maps were blue and at the end of the weekend, the 3 fortress of FS map were stolen and fully upgraded (at least Bay and Aska) on “fair timezone”.

ersatz.5789:

well, but it’s a start, eh?

they could limit upgrades at “night time” as well. If you upgraded your keep in “prime time” and keep defending it over-night – your upgrades stay. If someone captures it – they can’t upgrade it till morning. This may be the case only with claimed keeps, for example.

Finding a server in your time zone is NOT a problem, why should these players be “protected” when they ruin the game for everyone else?

Because these players work at night ? two of my best friend was here the last night capping, we live in middle France, one of them is a nurse other is firefighter, they both work at night so they live more at night than day so why u blame them if they play with their shedule ?

And pls stop thinking we are all canadian cause we’re not ! u humiliate yourself by hiding on this.

Thanks to Nug for this week end, u was boring like hell ^^ specially with your wall artillery on bay ! it was impressive !

edit !

At least you won’t be able to say that people can’t take back nightcapped forts.. Sunday morning, all maps were blue and at the end of the weekend, the 3 fortress of FS map were stolen and fully upgraded (at least Bay and Aska) on “fair timezone”.

Ofc it’s always a fair timezone when u win xD

That’s why we french can play at night : we’ve got a good fuel :o

Lorithias.2873:

ersatz.5789:

well, but it’s a start, eh?

they could limit upgrades at “night time” as well. If you upgraded your keep in “prime time” and keep defending it over-night – your upgrades stay. If someone captures it – they can’t upgrade it till morning. This may be the case only with claimed keeps, for example.

Finding a server in your time zone is NOT a problem, why should these players be “protected” when they ruin the game for everyone else?

Because these players work at night ? two of my best friend was here the last night capping, we live in middle France, one of them is a nurse other is firefighter, they both work at night so they live more at night than day so why u blame them if they play with their shedule ?

And pls stop thinking we are all canadian cause we’re not ! u humiliate yourself by hiding on this.

Thanks to Nug for this week end, u was boring like hell ^^ specially with your wall artillery xD

None of my suggestions stop nurses or firefighters playing the game. They can play, they can capture and do whatever, just maybe not upgrade some of the keeps (which were claimed).

OR they can join a NA server and play at their primetime.

Are you saying they are having fun right now anyway? Capping stuff with 0 resistance, then upgrading and standing on the reinforced walls gazing into horizon? Is this the type of “gameplay” that should be “protected”?

Playing on NA server from France … With all that lag, are you serious ?
Just because they play when YOU go to bed ?

Kayato wrote what i though.

it’s not ME, it’s 90% of players in the match up.

OK, then don’t play on NA server, just deal with the fact you won’t earn as much points. What’s the difference to you, personally, in how many points the server will get while you’re beating on that gate?

Are you having fun capturing empty keeps anyway? It’s not fun for anyone, even you, so this type of gameplay is not to be catered to

I don’t know, my prime time is 4 hour queue for 20min play. I think our night players will be happy if they have some resistance. Maybe the problem is not our server but yours which are not able to mobilize during night…

It’s le jeu my poor Lucette.

ersatz.5789:

it’s not ME, it’s 90% of players in the match up.

OK, then don’t play on NA server, just deal with the fact you won’t earn as much points. What’s the difference to you, personally, in how many points the server will get while you’re beating on that gate?

Are you having fun capturing empty keeps anyway? It’s not fun for anyone, even you, so this type of gameplay is not to be catered to

Sure it was really more fun to get focus by the 2 others servers all the week end, and u can tell me it wasn’t volonteer but when bay is under attack from South by FS and North by Desolation trust me even the better you’r u will have bad time. But for you it’s was balanced and fine.

But it’s ok we deal with it so do it too now, the fight isn’t done with this weekend and i think we will have many surprises from all server this week, let’s see that and gl all.

Jesus… you don’t even read my posts.
A compromise needs to be made for the sake of majority of players. This is it.
Night cappers may still contribute, just not as much. Period.
You have realize there will be never be perfect balance where all servers in the match up have “night shifts”, NEVER (save for NA top bracket maybe). Unless all 3 are French \o/. Maybe that’s the solution, huh?

Lorithias.2873:

ersatz.5789:

it’s not ME, it’s 90% of players in the match up.

OK, then don’t play on NA server, just deal with the fact you won’t earn as much points. What’s the difference to you, personally, in how many points the server will get while you’re beating on that gate?

Are you having fun capturing empty keeps anyway? It’s not fun for anyone, even you, so this type of gameplay is not to be catered to

Sure it was really more fun to get focus by the 2 others servers all the week end, and u can tell me it wasn’t volonteer but when bay is under attack from South by FS and North by Desolation trust me even the better you’r u will have bad time. But for you it’s was balanced and fine.

But it’s ok we deal with it so do it too now, the fight isn’t done with this weekend and i think we will have many surprises from all server this week, let’s see that and gl all.

Are you seriously justifing night capping “out of spite” in your post? What other proof is needed…

Kayato.9178:

I don’t know, my prime time is 4 hour queue for 20min play. I think our night players will be happy if they have some resistance. Maybe the problem is not our server but yours which are not able to mobilize during night…

No, cause their rules are rules that must be applied.
They decide when prime time is.
They decide that everyone have to sleep when they are sleeping.

how is it they can play day and night every day, why do they not have jobs or sleep? howcome FS was dominating on the weekend but when RL came around everything changed so fast? is it a timezone thing?

Srs.9715:

Kayato.9178:

I don’t know, my prime time is 4 hour queue for 20min play. I think our night players will be happy if they have some resistance. Maybe the problem is not our server but yours which are not able to mobilize during night…

No, cause their rules are rules that must be applied.
They decide when prime time is.
They decide that everyone have to sleep when they are sleeping.

you DON’T have to kitten SLEEP!!! you can do all the same things, it just won’t grant you an easy win!
How kitten difficult is it to understand this? Should i type it in French for kitten’s sake?

Battousai.7586:

how is it they can play day and night every day, why do they not have jobs or sleep? howcome FS was dominating on the weekend but when RL came around everything changed so fast? is it a timezone thing?

Our secret to stay and play all the night : maple syrup. Better than Red Bull.

It’s sad how ppl cry for a open and persistant WwW, so when it come they cry because it’s not like battleground and they can’t win ONLY (ofc) cause of shedule …

Kayato.9178:

Battousai.7586:

how is it they can play day and night every day, why do they not have jobs or sleep? howcome FS was dominating on the weekend but when RL came around everything changed so fast? is it a timezone thing?

Our secret to stay and play all the night : maple syrup. Better than Red Bull.

shhhh don’t give our best secret !

AXLORD.2045:

So ? You managed to fight on equal foot and take the lead during the week-end and that allows you to trashtalk about an entire server because they can play 24/7, using NASA records of some Canadian UFO as a proof ?

I’m not even on VS, but I’m starting to get tired of all those threads about how awesome FS is and how terrible VS (or “The French”) is. It reminds me of the LoL forums where everyone were trashtalking about how bad the french (or russian, or spanish, or whatever non-english player) were, closing their eyes as soon as those same french were carrying them, stating that only one failed game was enough as a proof to blame an entire community.

You’re like saying that you can handle a sprint and asking for ANet to change the 1-week marathon into a 2-days-daytime-only sprint, and that’s ridiculous.

I couldn’t agree more.

Ersatz, your server is full or at least medium, when we do what you call ‘nigh capping’ (that means more than enough people to fill WvW maps), the only difference with day time, is your big guilds (nug, zds, gf…) arent there, and suddenly pick-up vanish magically doing I dont know what, PVE?

That is too bad, as you keep claiming you are number 1 RvR server, I am sure you could beat us easy without these guilds, after all, as you and your friends keep saying we are barely average.

So maybe spend less time on forum and more in theWvW to prove your large superioty.

so because you are losing ground when you are sleeping arenanet should implement it that you dont lose as much points because of that?

first, your post is racist, claiming only the french do things like this…
my server is not french, yet we HAVE to resort to nightcapping, because we alway are outnumbered 5 to 1. last week it was whiteside, this week nihilum alone outnumbers our wvw people…

So you’re saying because we are outnumbered, and nightcapping is all we can do to gain any of the bonuses, we should be punished because we change our tactics accordingly?

i also work nightshifts, i also am more awake at night then during daytime, so i should be punished because i do…

you’re a bad loser ersatz

Foske.8346:

so because you are losing ground when you are sleeping arenanet should implement it that you dont lose as much points because of that?

first, your post is racist, claiming only the french do things like this…
my server is not french, yet we HAVE to resort to nightcapping, because we alway are outnumbered 5 to 1. last week it was whiteside, this week nihilum alone outnumbers our wvw people…

So you’re saying because we are outnumbered, and nightcapping is all we can do to gain any of the bonuses, we should be punished because we change our tactics accordingly?

i also work nightshifts, i also am more awake at night then during daytime, so i should be punished because i do…

you’re a bad loser ersatz

a server with the same time-zones would be a great start i think..

No they can’t spend more time. They have to sleep and work. So Everyone have to sleep and work because it’s not fair for them.

They decide when fight in WvW is good and fair and decide when it’s not fair too.

lol you don’t even know which server i play on, and it’s not FS. And I don’t care about superiority or losing.
If you can’t see how this particular issue is hurting the game – whatever. If you enjoy capping empty keeps – whatever, just don’t be surprised when the whole game community hates you for this.

@Uder i was really waiting for someone to bring up the WWll argument vs French, LOL, sooner or later – it always happens

Oh oh, we are very close of the Godwin point.

It is easy to steal candy from a kid, it is even easier to steal candy from a sleeping kid. You may be nr 1 on paper but do they deserv it? not even a little bit. It’s a cheap and boring tactic pve’ing vs gates.

A system that would be perfect:

During night time at europe on europe servers you cant gain any points but u can cap so u have an advantage during the day when the point will start coming. This way its not game braking but still ur effort during night will give ur server an advantage.

Well you can keep ignoring the fact that during what you call ‘night-capping’ your server is still medium populated and sometime high (I repeat, that means enough to fill all the WvW maps), and yet, you dont even defend one.

So I think the problem isn’t time zone.It is just than when your main guilds arent playing, the pick-up prefer to hide in PVE. Not our problem.

Too much PvE kills WvWvW in both sides :-(

elvy.9085:

Well you can keep ignoring the fact that during what you call ‘night-capping’ your server is still medium populated and sometime high (I repeat, that means enough to fill all the WvW maps), and yet, you dont even defend one.

So I think the problem isn’t time zone.It is just than when your main guilds arent playing, the pick-up prefer to hide in PVE. Not our problem.

its like 50 players trying to do the jump puzzle during the night at FS

How are we responsible if your server populated with the highest skilled WvW players in the world prefer to do puzzles, rather than winning vs us, poor average players?

put the french canadians with there own time zoned people, give them to the americans.

If you are going to mention canadian ghost everytime you have no answer to an argument, it says something about you.

Yeah Battosai, mommy is calling, dinner is ready. Go eat and come back fully filled.

We know everything about hebraic canadians, africans and whatever you want, we know don’t worry.

17h40 in France,