Guild Wars 2

RP is most likely not going to move i will ask guild officers to attend.

The problem with making an ocx fight tier is that once an ocx guild moves to a server lower than t3 it causes that server to start moving up so its very hard in accomplishing something like this

If you guys are really planning to move, it feels to me like we should try to create what tier 1/2 will never be able to create because they are stuck in glicko hell.

A 6 servers match up rotation in tier 3/4 with all servers being nearly the same strength

Only problem is that it would still be hard as hell to bring the average glicko of both tier close together → It’s a process that take months without ANET intervention.

I’m not sure if there would be enough guilds to spread out on 6 servers. Will found out come the first OCX/SEA meeting. The HYPE boys. Anet should just give us 3 OCX servers to fix this mess

gl! just a thought. if u want diversity you can wait to see what yb does to t1/t2 within next 2 weeks. spread out in t2 and it will be a rotation of 6 servers for ocx/sea since t1 already has ocx/sea. then you don’t have to worry about lower servers moving up etc. T1 are locked and eventually t2 will be locked and glicko for top 6 servers should be close after yb leeches off remaining 2 t1 servers and whoever drops will lose rating to fa/sos cuz t1 isn’t that stacked in NA anymore.
or t3 is already gvg scene for na. spread there and don’t ppt and servers shouldn’t move up/down.
regardless glhf!

The thing is it’s getting stale fighting the tier 2 OCX guilds I’d like to fight the tier 1 guilds too and vice versa. So a tier lower where we could all transfer too if enough people want it would be great. FA is bleeding guilds pretty hard so if they drop to tier 3 and kitten with the stability there. There will be a big kitten storm coming lol with all the tier 3 people not being happy chappies. Yeah I don’t think we plan to ppt either otherwise we will never get that stable tier that we deserve.

Good luck to you. It seems that this will always be a moving target. NA gvg went t3 and spread, but hod is already within RNG roll range. Dragon wagon seems to be picking up some steam again as well. If all you really care is about fighting each other dr / et probably aren’t going anywhere…..

The 3 ocx designated servers from the start would have helped immensely…..

lol, who cares about stable 3-servers match up…thats what make wvw even more boring and stale

i rather have 6-servers rotation match up, the more the merrier, 9 or even 12 servers rotation matchup….

Naive plan led by a guild that lacks influence.

Best bet for OCX action has and will always be Tier 1.

SkyShroud.2865:

lol, who cares about stable 3-servers match up…thats what make wvw even more boring and stale

i rather have 6-servers rotation match up, the more the merrier, 9 or even 12 servers rotation matchup….

Good to see you understand the OCX Timezone and how alive it is

Grumpdogg.6910:

Naive plan led by a guild that lacks influence.

Best bet for OCX action has and will always be Tier 1.

Yes because moving to tier 1 which is full might I add to fight 60 man blob guilds is the best plan of action. Great suggestion mate I’m sure to take it into consideration

Lacks influence aye oh boy lel

I hear spreadsheets is the way things are done now.

kitten sies.2378:

I hear spreadsheets is the way things are done now.

We will be using the almighty spreadsheet to help organise everything.

Kiliope.2364:

Grumpdogg.6910:

Naive plan led by a guild that lacks influence.

Best bet for OCX action has and will always be Tier 1.

Yes because moving to tier 1 which is full might I add to fight 60 man blob guilds is the best plan of action. Great suggestion mate I’m sure to take it into consideration

Lacks influence aye oh boy lel

The plan seems to be:

1. Spread a few OCX guilds out over a dead tier with no prospect of recruitment
2. Have no dialogue, influence or connections with SEA
3. Wait for profit

All based on the hope that someone remembers seeing your old guild tag occasionally on BG that one time.

ok, lets assume you’re not trolling (kittenumption) Would it not be better to wait for hot to see both how oceanic populations are affected as a whole, and if the guild hall battle area lives up to hype; rather than wasting all of our times now and potentially killing off what remains of Oceanic population in gw2.

Grumpdogg.6910:

Kiliope.2364:

Grumpdogg.6910:

Naive plan led by a guild that lacks influence.

Best bet for OCX action has and will always be Tier 1.

Yes because moving to tier 1 which is full might I add to fight 60 man blob guilds is the best plan of action. Great suggestion mate I’m sure to take it into consideration

Lacks influence aye oh boy lel

The plan seems to be:

1. Spread a few OCX guilds out over a dead tier with no prospect of recruitment
2. Have no dialogue, influence or connections with SEA
3. Wait for profit

All based on the hope that someone remembers seeing your old guild tag occasionally on BG that one time.

First of all it wouldn’t be a few OCX guilds it would have to be majority of the OCX/SEA guilds wanting to move. Please read the quote below that may fix the recruitment issue or we will find another way to solve that problem.

chopper.8653:

chopper.8653:

If you move to servers without an existing OCX pop then have fun recruiting.

Actually that wouldn’t be too hard. A lot of servers have OCX players on them but they are completely unorganized and without a tag they just log off or go PvP or something. Give them a guild and some winnable fights and people will start popping out of the woodwork.

2. SEA guilds will be coming too
3. If it all goes to plan some of the best OCX/SEA fights ever will happen so yes a great profit.

If you think it’s about me trying to gain attention for me or my guild I’m not. I’m trying to make the OCX/SEA more interesting for everyone. Again nothing is set in stone it’s a meeting worse comes to worse nothing happens. Better to try and organise something than rather hit our head against the wall aye. Thanks for you’re two cents if you don’t have anything else positive to say please don’t post again in this topic. Thanks.

Tobias Steele.2071:

ok, lets assume you’re not trolling (kittenumption) Would it not be better to wait for hot to see both how oceanic populations are affected as a whole, and if the guild hall battle area lives up to hype; rather than wasting all of our times now and potentially killing off what remains of Oceanic population in gw2.

First of all do you think I would go to all this effort to troll? Like seriously mate I wouldn’t waste my time. When is the actual HOT release date? Even so GvGs are great and all with the guild hall but I still believe that guilds will want to do open field fights. So wouldn’t it be better for us to create this tier. If it’s possible.

Kiliope.2364:

Tobias Steele.2071:

ok, lets assume you’re not trolling (kittenumption) Would it not be better to wait for hot to see both how oceanic populations are affected as a whole, and if the guild hall battle area lives up to hype; rather than wasting all of our times now and potentially killing off what remains of Oceanic population in gw2.

First of all do you think I would go to all this effort to troll? Like seriously mate I wouldn’t waste my time. When is the actual HOT release date? Even so GvGs are great and all with the guild hall but I still believe that guilds will want to do open field fights. So wouldn’t it be better for us to create this tier. If it’s possible.

Do you actually want me to answer that?

That’s a good point and I certainly hope its true otherwise we would lose a lot of the best players in the game if they all stopped wvwing completely.

My last point is what happens if we commit to it and it fails. All the remaining servers that would still have ocx are full. So we could potentially get stuck in a low tier server without the ability to move back.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Kiliope.2364:

Tobias Steele.2071:

ok, lets assume you’re not trolling (kittenumption) Would it not be better to wait for hot to see both how oceanic populations are affected as a whole, and if the guild hall battle area lives up to hype; rather than wasting all of our times now and potentially killing off what remains of Oceanic population in gw2.

First of all do you think I would go to all this effort to troll? Like seriously mate I wouldn’t waste my time. When is the actual HOT release date? Even so GvGs are great and all with the guild hall but I still believe that guilds will want to do open field fights. So wouldn’t it be better for us to create this tier. If it’s possible.

Do you actually want me to answer that?

That’s a good point and I certainly hope its true otherwise we would lose a lot of the best players in the game if they all stopped wvwing completely.

My last point is what happens if we commit to it and it fails. All the remaining servers that would still have ocx are full. So we could potentially get stuck in a low tier server without the ability to move back.

That last point is a good one I’ll make sure that I’ll bring it up at the meeting. Thanks

Chrono.6832:

Rip SoX + TF

XD

What about Dawn?

Everyone doesn’t have a 9.99 alt account to move?

Liston.9708:

Everyone doesn’t have a 9.99 alt account to move?

But levelling is horrible

Kiliope.2364:

Liston.9708:

Everyone doesn’t have a 9.99 alt account to move?

But levelling is horrible

That’s what the golem event was for – but I hear ya

I think SEA would be rather complicated given quite a few of them don’t speak english primarily… Also it is undeniable that T1/T2 has a large OCX/SEA population, regardless of whether they are hardcore WvW players or not.

I may be wrong but, from my dealings with the SEA guilds in T1

1. Some face population issues for their own guilds (mine included, though this tends to be due to the nature of T1, you need larger numbers to fight, 15 man groups don’t really cut it here)

2. From my experience only cA (currently on JQ) are willing to fight anyone, everyone else does not really like to participate in open field.

3. SEA guilds tend to be more focused on keeping face or server pride (example last 2 weeks most BG SEA has been hardcore PPTing to ensure that they don’t drop afaik) so most fights have either been 60 BG (3 guilds) bashing a T3 keep the entire night (JQ SEA can testify).

While the situation here is not very enviable, to move everyone down would be costly as a ton of us have to move, and I don’t know what SEA guilds are there in the lower tiers (though this is my own ignorance, would love to be enlightened here, any SEA friends?!).

1. How to recruit SEA/OCX people into the guild to keep it alive
2. How to ensure the servers won’t move (stable, though this applies more to OCX since you guys have even less people around)
3. If this is for GvG then might as well wait for guild halls and pray for influx of players before making a move
4. Attitude of the guilds, it’s not uncommon to get dodged in fights already in T1 amongst the guilds (SEA), how are you going to convince them to fight?
5. If the thing backfires we’re all screwed because of the population cap, and we can’t go back.

Go to where the population currently is, that’s T1/2, those 2 tiers are also most likely to be “stable” over the long term.

Or commit ritual suicide and kill your guild down in T4/5, and lock yourselves out of T1/2 at your own risk, cos you know xferring is SO HEALTHY for a guild, ask a number of recent T1 xfers into YB and then onto CD, and that’s in NA – the most populated TZ.

Imagine the “fun” in ocx/sea where it’s desolate in the lower tiers.

Also, guild arenas.

Seriously, just because it’s kitten now cos you get blobbed down, dont try to kitten it up for the rest of the population.

Ask yourself, realistically how many REGULAR players would you need to spread over 3 servers in tiers 3 and below to make ocx/sea viable for more than 1 wk?

100..200..?

It’s going to get old fighting the same 2 guilds on each server real quick….

What’s the likelihood of having already small ocx/sea guilds (hey no blob guilds right), be able to have their entire guild agree to xfer? I mean the rest of them dont have friends in NA/EU that they like to play with on thier current servers no?

Ok so maybe get alts.

Show me the 100/200 guys willing to grind for gear for a week before it becomes boring and they just go back and play their main accounts…. Evidence OnSL on TC last month… that worked out REAL WELL.

Go to where the population already IS, attempting to spread out an already paper thin TZ, cos YOU arent having fun is just going to cost suckers money and drive more players out of the game and kitten IT UP FOR THE REST OF US.

Have you actually thought this through? Like REALLY?

Rawr.5930:

Go to where the population currently is, that’s T1/2, those 2 tiers are also most likely to be “stable” over the long term.

Or commit ritual suicide and kill your guild down in T4/5, and lock yourselves out of T1/2 at your own risk, cos you know xferring is SO HEALTHY for a guild, ask a number of recent T1 xfers into YB and then onto CD, and that’s in NA – the most populated TZ.

Imagine the “fun” in ocx/sea where it’s desolate in the lower tiers.

Also, guild arenas.

Seriously, just because it’s kitten now cos you get blobbed down, dont try to kitten it up for the rest of the population.

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Ask yourself, realistically how many REGULAR players would you need to spread over 3 servers in tiers 3 and below to make ocx/sea viable for more than 1 wk?

100..200..?

It’s going to get old fighting the same 2 guilds on each server real quick….

What’s the likelihood of having already small ocx/sea guilds (hey no blob guilds right), be able to have their entire guild agree to xfer? I mean the rest of them dont have friends in NA/EU that they like to play with on thier current servers no?

Ok so maybe get alts.

Show me the 100/200 guys willing to grind for gear for a week before it becomes boring and they just go back and play their main accounts…. Evidence OnSL on TC last month… that worked out REAL WELL.

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Go to where the population already IS, attempting to spread out an already paper thin TZ, cos YOU arent having fun is just going to cost suckers money and drive more players out of the game and kitten IT UP FOR THE REST OF US.

Have you actually thought this through? Like REALLY?

Please can you go back and read the whole topic, k thanks.
I’ll say this all one last time. It is not just me or my guild that wants this to happen. It is multiple guilds on several servers. All we are doing is getting all the guilds together to have a meeting and discuss it again nothing is set in stone. So why don’t you all chill the kitten out and stop stressing. It isn’t just about GvG’s either its about open field as well. I thought it would be a good idea to try and give this a shot, so I’m trying to organize it and get an idea of where everyone else in OCX/SEA’s heads are at. If it doesn’t happen no big deal.

It sounds like you all have good points to bring up and discuss at Munted’s meeting.

Rawr, I also believe that the top tiers have been a good place for OCX and SEA to congregate given the lack of an OCX/SEA set of servers since any sizable OCX/SEA presence on NA servers tends to make for mismatched match-ups in lower tiers.

The problem you guys face now though is that the new population calculation means that full servers can no longer perform blackouts to replenish the supply of OCX/SEA players. There isn’t a way for players to go where the population already is. Your guilds will slowly die.

Kiliope.2364:

Please can you go back and read the whole topic, k thanks.
I’ll say this all one last time. It is not just me or my guild that wants this to happen. It is multiple guilds on several servers. All we are doing is getting all the guilds together to have a meeting and discuss it again nothing is set in stone. So why don’t you all chill the kitten out and stop stressing. It isn’t just about GvG’s either its about open field as well. I thought it would be a good idea to try and give this a shot, so I’m trying to organize it and get an idea of where everyone else in OCX/SEA’s heads are at. If it doesn’t happen no big deal.

Eotm works btw.

There’s been a ton of T1/2 scrimms btw Ahma, Tfv, LATE, Afk over the last 2 wks.

If anything take the opportunity to exchange contacts and set up scrimms there, heck we can even stack maps and force the ktrains off.

Sure it’s inconvenient, but is it as inconvenient as getting literally HUNDREDS of people to invest far more time and real money to do something we can ALREADY do in Eotm?

Like i said, if you want to organize fights, it’s ALREADY possible cross tier RIGHT NOW.

Have you thought it through? Like REALLY?

Rawr.5930:

Kiliope.2364:

Please can you go back and read the whole topic, k thanks.
I’ll say this all one last time. It is not just me or my guild that wants this to happen. It is multiple guilds on several servers. All we are doing is getting all the guilds together to have a meeting and discuss it again nothing is set in stone. So why don’t you all chill the kitten out and stop stressing. It isn’t just about GvG’s either its about open field as well. I thought it would be a good idea to try and give this a shot, so I’m trying to organize it and get an idea of where everyone else in OCX/SEA’s heads are at. If it doesn’t happen no big deal.

Eotm works btw.

There’s been a ton of T1/2 scrimms btw Ahma, Tfv, LATE, Afk over the last 2 wks.

If anything take the opportunity to exchange contacts and set up scrimms there, heck we can even stack maps and force the ktrains off.

Sure it’s inconvenient, but is it as inconvenient as getting literally HUNDREDS of people to invest far more time and real money to do something we can ALREADY do in Eotm?

Like i said, if you want to organize fights, it’s ALREADY possible cross tier RIGHT NOW.

Have you thought it through? Like REALLY?

Yeah man EOTM is so fun, boy I cant wait to get all those fun fights in EOTM. Are you new to WvW or something?
Have you thought it through? Like REALLY?

Edit: Yes I’ve heard about the SEA scrims.

Chaba.5410:

It sounds like you all have good points to bring up and discuss at Munted’s meeting.

Rawr, I also believe that the top tiers have been a good place for OCX and SEA to congregate given the lack of an OCX/SEA set of servers since any sizable OCX/SEA presence on NA servers tends to make for mismatched match-ups in lower tiers.

The problem you guys face now though is that the new population calculation means that full servers can no longer perform blackouts to replenish the supply of OCX/SEA players. There isn’t a way for players to go where the population already is. Your guilds will slowly die.

There is literally ZERO reason to xfer and attempt to create a “stable” ocx/sea fight tier.

When HoT hits, all indications point to instanced guild arenas, ie tiers dont matter.

You can RIGHT NOW, scrimm in Eotm, not ideal but really not all that bad, ask AHMA, TFV, LATE, AFK for testimonials.

Which is more reasonable? Keep your guilds together where they are right now, scrimm in Eotm, and wait for HoT; or attempt an insanely resource intensive and risky powerplay to create a ocx/sea fight tier.

I really dont know what else to say, but it seems no thought was put into actually solving “lack of fights”, other than this kneejerk, FIGHT TIER O!%)#!%I!#%LJ!#L%H!#%H!#JL bullcrap.

Chaba.5410:

It sounds like you all have good points to bring up and discuss at Munted’s meeting.

Rawr, I also believe that the top tiers have been a good place for OCX and SEA to congregate given the lack of an OCX/SEA set of servers since any sizable OCX/SEA presence on NA servers tends to make for mismatched match-ups in lower tiers.

The problem you guys face now though is that the new population calculation means that full servers can no longer perform blackouts to replenish the supply of OCX/SEA players. There isn’t a way for players to go where the population already is. Your guilds will slowly die.

That’s true, but going to a dead timezone might speed up the dying process lol

Kiliope.2364:

Yeah man EOTM is so fun, boy I cant wait to get all those fun fights in EOTM. Are you new to WvW or something?
Have you thought it through? Like REALLY?

Edit: Yes I’ve heard about the SEA scrims.

I actually have video of the scrimms btw…. funny they look almost the same as those in OS, strange that.

Have you actually tried asking for scrimms and you know TRIED it out before knocking it?

Cos you know creating a “fight tier” is just SO much easier.

Ren.6351:

Chaba.5410:

It sounds like you all have good points to bring up and discuss at Munted’s meeting.

Rawr, I also believe that the top tiers have been a good place for OCX and SEA to congregate given the lack of an OCX/SEA set of servers since any sizable OCX/SEA presence on NA servers tends to make for mismatched match-ups in lower tiers.

The problem you guys face now though is that the new population calculation means that full servers can no longer perform blackouts to replenish the supply of OCX/SEA players. There isn’t a way for players to go where the population already is. Your guilds will slowly die.

That’s true, but going to a dead timezone might speed up the dying process lol

Isn’t that the point of what Munted is trying to get people to the meeting to discuss? Ensure that the timezone isn’t dead?

Chaba.5410:

Isn’t that the point of what Munted is trying to do? Ensure that the timezone isn’t dead?

You know it’s much easier to move 10 guys than to have 200 hundred move for you…..

Oh my bad T1/2 is locked, so it’s easier to have 200 to move for 10, sorry.

Dont mind the cost, and risk and the current solutions available.

Nope none of the logical things to attempt in the meantime.

FIGHT TIER BOYS.

Kiliope.2364:

You do realise EOTM GvG’s are kittening cancer right. Most of those guilds I cant fight because they are SEA guilds mate. They start there raid just after I finish. So no I cant fight most of them sadly. I have fought LATE and gvged them multiple times though. Envy and I have been talking about EOTM GvG’s lately as well. It merely just waiting until we both had 15 on. Again its not just about GvG’s either its about open field too. Some people are so kittening dense in this game its unbelievable.

Yes i do realise, LATE cancelled literally 15min before a scheduled scrimm on us, kitten happens (not slagging them btw).

So, IF it’s a SEA/OCX TZ mismatch issue, how exactly is a fight tier going to solve the problem? I mean people are magically not going to need to sleep or can suddenly get off work earlier i guess when in the same tier.

It’s kittening voodoo man.

You are clearly invested in the fight tier idea, and seemingly unable to even countenance the POSSIBILITY of other solutions. So i’m done wasting time here.

Perhaps “fights” mean different things, cos it seems you just want open field and not scrimms, so Eotm scrimms are anathema, but somehow spreading out already thin population and asking them to either invest tons of time and/or $$$, on a ONE WAY TRIP for many is just a better idea.

Whatever floats your boat man.

Chaba.5410:

Ren.6351:

Chaba.5410:

It sounds like you all have good points to bring up and discuss at Munted’s meeting.

Rawr, I also believe that the top tiers have been a good place for OCX and SEA to congregate given the lack of an OCX/SEA set of servers since any sizable OCX/SEA presence on NA servers tends to make for mismatched match-ups in lower tiers.

The problem you guys face now though is that the new population calculation means that full servers can no longer perform blackouts to replenish the supply of OCX/SEA players. There isn’t a way for players to go where the population already is. Your guilds will slowly die.

That’s true, but going to a dead timezone might speed up the dying process lol

Isn’t that the point of what Munted is trying to get people to the meeting to discuss? Ensure that the timezone isn’t dead?

Nah I get that, I’m just expressing worries, not trying to shut you down here. The idea is to move guilds right? You don’t expect us to recruit from other guilds do you?

Eitherway will be mailing you to listen in on the discussion as well!

Hey , GL of Goonsack here. We’re a small T1 Roaming/PVE OCX Guild thats interested into getting into a WvW matchup that has plenty of people running around on during nightime instead of 1 or 2 massive zerg guilds. I’ll pop you a mail right now as we’re keen to join in on the discussion

What happened to the OCX FA guilds that transferred in and did a great job like Adv, XIII, Dawn etc? I know there were trolling issues that forced one very dedicated and decent sized guild with a really good driver who ran during the OCX/SEA to transfer to Maguuma. (Having troll siege being thrown on another comms ram prints was not cool and did not help FA). And the issue with the other OCX guilds refusing to run with that comm or even be on same map probably had something to do with the current state of things in FA besides the mass influx of kitten YB. Talking with some YB roamers that was a big problem for them until the problem moved to FA. But hope a new leaf is turned now that one can’t stand alone but just move. So if the problem transfers from FA then things will look up for OCX in kittenain. Good luck. Hope the transfer is stat.

I still see the XIII bads around, we blew some of them and Obey up the other day. Seems XIII are good at sending salty whispers and bad at doing anything else.

The main problem is probably [TF] when you have all of SoS in WvW on 1 tag in OCX it is kind of boring. Outside the weekend no server can come close to competing with the numbers so people just sit behind siege in keeps, or map to a different BL and let TF PvD.

We are willing to give 15-20 a shot with our 5man, maybe get a few bags here and there on the way out. But dat TF blob just too phatz, (i dont blame them btw, thats just how they play the game which is their right).

Jethro.8725:

What happened to the OCX FA guilds that transferred in and did a great job like Adv, XIII, Dawn etc?

All those guilds have been great. Like for every player though, no matter the timezone, real life situations change. XIII leader had to quit the game. OCX raids for DAWN were not always easy since DAWN’s leader is EU.

But to address your question specifically, most WvW OCX players I know just want to have what NA players take for granted due to being the most populous timezone: good fights and less PPT. I believe that’s a primary reason for why RP left. OCX was fine whenever fights were emphasized over PPT. It doesn’t always happen because the pressure to PPT during non-NA hours outside of T1 hold an extremely high value over NA PPT activity, pushing NA players into staying up late to PPT to try to get an advantage. I don’t see that NA overtiming changing until Anet de-values non-NA PPTing.

Chorazin.4107:

I still see the XIII bads around, we blew some of them and Obey up the other day. Seems XIII are good at sending salty whispers and bad at doing anything else.

The main problem is probably [TF] when you have all of SoS in WvW on 1 tag in OCX it is kind of boring. Outside the weekend no server can come close to competing with the numbers so people just sit behind siege in keeps, or map to a different BL and let TF PvD.

We are willing to give 15-20 a shot with our 5man, maybe get a few bags here and there on the way out. But dat TF blob just too phatz, (i dont blame them btw, thats just how they play the game which is their right).

Leave the trash talking to the PvF forums Chorazin. In reality we wipe you guys just as often as you wipe us. It just depends who’s actually in the fight since skill wise and lag wise it varies from member to member.

Cray has real life matters to take care off so he’s been gone for I think 2 months or so.

I agree with your comments on TF, when we have 10 or less and only 2 on TS vs 40 or 50 SoS, most of which are repping TF and I assume on TS. It’s kinda hopeless.

And yes props to your group, you guys are one of the few on YB that would actually charge at superior numbers.

Supporting a fights culture in OCX in general is a good idea, but honestly it seems very late as most of the fights focused guilds and players in the timezone have long quit the game. No disrespect to the guilds like LATE, BEAR or Envy but moving to lower tiers would do more harm than good as transfers kill guilds – and moving to tiers where there are very few fights outside of the guilds you’ve transferred with seems very shortsighted, unless you only plan on fighting one guild every night over and over.

My opinion is that you should wait it out until HoT and see how the populations and guild hall attendance in OCX are before a lot of players commit to moving down to T3-T8 servers.

Anyways, good luck with whatever you guys choose to do

Chorazin.4107:

I still see the XIII bads around, we blew some of them and Obey up the other day. Seems XIII are good at sending salty whispers and bad at doing anything else.

The main problem is probably [TF] when you have all of SoS in WvW on 1 tag in OCX it is kind of boring. Outside the weekend no server can come close to competing with the numbers so people just sit behind siege in keeps, or map to a different BL and let TF PvD.

We are willing to give 15-20 a shot with our 5man, maybe get a few bags here and there on the way out. But dat TF blob just too phatz, (i dont blame them btw, thats just how they play the game which is their right).

Stop accusing [TF] as they always have to take the responsibility to make the server PPT stable. SoS has been suffering from having zero OCX guilds for a long time until TF started being built up.

If there were more spread of guilds onto different servers in T2 in the beginning, it could have been better. However, most guilds decided to stack on one server and create the situation you can’t recover from.

I feel more salt is going to be INC. Please keep posts on the matter at hand. Thanks <3

Miss you T2 off-hours.

Adv – Magnus’ ability to rally pugs and love for the yolo JI’ing
RP – Pretty epic long SMC fights, 5eva tapping the waypoint of whoever owned SMC
XIII – Obviously still around but much smaller. Particularly those scheduled golem rushes, when you’d literally all be in golems. Can still recall a time when we were still on DB, called in to deal with your golems at our bay whilst DK snuck in and flipped our garri behind us
GAN – Our perfect raid counterparts. RIP SoS’ most recent SEA
CST – For giving us the opportunity to kill Eph in OS, on more than one occasion (Nice to see you guys raiding again)
DAWN – Was actually willing to give scrimming us a try, even if Johny would request it be at windmill..
FN – Small man fights, forever being annoying and poking our BL towers/keeps
II – Sniping an old server mate and ex-guildies as they tried to draw out pugs to fight >:)
Ra/NEWS/Me – Good fights when they still ran separately before merging into the Ra omniblob, and then just before they left for T1
Rx – For a short while there you’d have someone tag up during prime time OCX, I can only assume that force eventually got absorbed by TF

Also sadface Rs/Ts/AKD/Sern

This list saddens me

Funtedmace, add me as a LATE +1 >:)

Don’t necessarily think an OCX/SEA “fights tier” is a good idea, especially recruitment wise, but open to hear what you put forward.

Also EOTM scrimming gets annoying, fast.. (kitten interruptions: the cannons and certain EOTM commanders..), but what else can you do.

You can only fight the same map queue everyday for so long. If we were at all interested in zergbusting we would have transferred to T1 along time ago.

yav.4952:

Funtedmace, add me as a LATE +1 >:)

Don’t necessarily think an OCX/SEA “fights tier” is a good idea, especially recruitment wise, but open to hear what you put forward.

Also EOTM scrimming gets annoying, fast.. (kitten interruptions: the cannons and certain EOTM commanders..), but what else can you do.

You can only fight the same map queue everyday for so long. If we were at all interested in zergbusting we would have transferred to T1 along time ago.

Just want to point out since T1 and 2 are full the only place you will be able to recruit the new players HoT will bring are on lower tiers.

The T1 panic is real, lol.

Puck.9612:

yav.4952:

Funtedmace, add me as a LATE +1 >:)

Don’t necessarily think an OCX/SEA “fights tier” is a good idea, especially recruitment wise, but open to hear what you put forward.

Also EOTM scrimming gets annoying, fast.. (kitten interruptions: the cannons and certain EOTM commanders..), but what else can you do.

You can only fight the same map queue everyday for so long. If we were at all interested in zergbusting we would have transferred to T1 along time ago.

Just want to point out since T1 and 2 are full the only place you will be able to recruit the new players HoT will bring are on lower tiers.

Good Point

Kinda off topic, but hopefully HoT will bring some new OCX players to the game. I doubt they’ll be too interested in WvW/GvG though, considering the biggest draw for the expansion is PvE content.

Tarkus.4109:

Kinda off topic but, hopefully HoT will bring some new OCX players to the game. I doubt they’ll be too interested in WvW/GvG though, considering the biggest draw for the expansion is PvE content.

The pve content might be the initial attraction but once they realize how terrible it is after a few weeks of playing it they will check out WvW. If they have a tag to follow they might stick around, otherwise the majority will leave. That’s why it would be better to have some guilds on servers that aren’t locked during that timezone.