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Posted by: WilnerGW.3275

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Im not a a fanboy, but imo, gw2 has the best pvp combat on MMO Market, by far. All professions are unique, with lots of build variety and customization. The combat is fluid, dynamic and very fun. Anet did a great work on this MMO, really. The conquest and Stronghold pvp modes are cool too.

But we dont have open World PVP. WvW is a joke. Or do you zerg, or do you play thief/mesmer(due stealth and teleports) to escape the ganks and zergs. You cant rlly roam alone, unless you want some1 stomping ur dead body after a 2v1 3v1 4v1 5v1 etc..
Sometimes it take like 1h for me roaming alone to find a single 1v1 battle…rlly…1 hour!!!!!

I know gw2 PVE map system isnt made for competion, just for coperation. But why doesnt ANET try to create a TEST OVERFLOW, with any map of Tyria, and make it open PK. Ppl would enter this overflow if they want., if they choose it from any command or portal idk. Just test it. If it proves its broken, just delete it. No1 will Cry on foruns, since they choosed to be there.

Im sure it will be full of people. From my experience in free mmo’s, people love world PK and it would be amazing to have it in GW2. I play gw2 since 2013, so i really would like to get some real pvp action, since WvW is BROKEN for small scale pvp.

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Posted by: Wryscher.1432

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That is actually sort of a cool idea. With the the mega server I wonder if they can take one splinter of one map and make it pvp. Of course I don’t think it will ever happen but it would be cool.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

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Open world PvP would be nice. How would it work to prevent some of the problems that currently occur in WvW where some ally adds-in which snowballs into the zerging and cowering that happens now? Dual-flag like in Wildstar?

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Posted by: joneirikb.7506

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*crosses fingers for queensdale*

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Posted by: Loosmaster.8263

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This was brought up around 6 months or so after the game was released. I remember map chat being flooded with requests to go to the forum and support the idea. Sadly, it fell on deaf ears like every thing else.


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Posted by: WilnerGW.3275

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This was brought up around 6 months or so after the game was released. I remember map chat being flooded with requests to go to the forum and support the idea. Sadly, it fell on deaf ears like every thing else.

yeah, thats sad.

But we cant accept having a bad kitten mechanic game like this with such a poor open-pvp experience we have atm.

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

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No for open world PvP/PK. That sort of thing should be kept in the mists where it belongs. However, I would be for turning OS into a PvP/PK map. Everyone in OS is an enemy. That could be fun. But please keep duels/PK out of the open world. Lore wise it doesn’t make much sense. It would ruin the story, and break immersion in a terrible way. As well as be hyper annoying. Imagine trying to do a JP then some kitten comes along and knocks you off the ledge on the jump before the chest. It would just open the doors for massive trolling and griefing. No thanks.

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Posted by: WilnerGW.3275

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No for open world PvP/PK. That sort of thing should be kept in the mists where it belongs. However, I would be for turning OS into a PvP/PK map. Everyone in OS is an enemy. That could be fun. But please keep duels/PK out of the open world. Lore wise it doesn’t make much sense. It would ruin the story, and break immersion in a terrible way. As well as be hyper annoying. Imagine trying to do a JP then some kitten comes along and knocks you off the ledge on the jump before the chest. It would just open the doors for massive trolling and griefing. No thanks.

Thats why we could CHOOSE we kinda of server/world we play – Open PK or NOT-PK. I understand there are differente kind of players, and we must respect it.

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

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No for open world PvP/PK. That sort of thing should be kept in the mists where it belongs. However, I would be for turning OS into a PvP/PK map. Everyone in OS is an enemy. That could be fun. But please keep duels/PK out of the open world. Lore wise it doesn’t make much sense. It would ruin the story, and break immersion in a terrible way. As well as be hyper annoying. Imagine trying to do a JP then some kitten comes along and knocks you off the ledge on the jump before the chest. It would just open the doors for massive trolling and griefing. No thanks.

Thats why we could CHOOSE we kinda of server/world we play – Open PK or NOT-PK. I understand there are differente kind of players, and we must respect it.

The biggest problem I see with it is, is not the trolling/griefing that will happen. But how to you fit the concept of open world pvp/pk fit the story and narrative of PvE? It’s all built on cooperation. As you follow the story in each map, you see that all the events, the hearts, etc. lead up to the formation of the Pact. Which is not only about the Orders working together, but bridging the gap between races as well. Then in HoT, you see the Pact bringing in the Skritt, Quaggen, even the Nightmare Court, as it’s all the races working together to fight a common threat. Open world PvP/PK doesn’t fit. How does the theme of unity work when you have everyone fighting against each other? Especially if the PC is a Pact commander?

While I agree it could be fun, to an extent, the whole concept doesn’t fit into the theme of PvE. Again it could work well in the Mists. We already have The Mist War, or Battle for the Mists there (i.e. WvW and PvP) so it would make sense to have such a thing there. It fits the theme of those places.

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Posted by: Loosmaster.8263

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I’m not sure of what the depth of open PvP the op wants but it has been suggested you have a server with PVP maps, i.e. current PvE maps void of all PVE features, NPCs and creatures.


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Posted by: WilnerGW.3275

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I’m not sure of what the depth of open PvP the op wants but it has been suggested you have a server with PVP maps, i.e. current PvE maps void of all PVE features, NPCs and creatures.

Yeah, thats could be an idea, since most of pvp players like me doenst really care about history

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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The issue with Wildstar is at launch it seemed like nearly everyone wanted the pvp-open world servers.

Over time, pvp population disappeared and the consistent population was … wait for it … pve.

They had to merge to mega server to keep afloat.

The cachet of open world was incredibly popular initially, but didn’t have the chops for long term play.

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

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+1

Maybe even get rid of 2 borderlands, make the remaining one a free for all PK map.

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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Posted by: WilnerGW.3275

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+1

Maybe even get rid of 2 borderlands, make the remaining one a free for all PK map.

Yeah, thats true.

One borderland for each server is too much. The new BL is so much big ( the maps are kittening amazing beatiful btw), but theres almost no1 arround.

They could create a Free for ALL PK map, just like a borderland but without the WvW objectives. Btw i dont like the World vs World vs World idea. This just encourage ppl to zerg zerg zerg. Theres no real action on zerging, and you cant really improve ur PVP skill in a zerg.

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

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Im not a a fanboy, but imo, gw2 has the best pvp combat on MMO Market, by far. All professions are unique, with lots of build variety and customization. The combat is fluid, dynamic and very fun. Anet did a great work on this MMO, really. The conquest and Stronghold pvp modes are cool too.

But we dont have open World PVP. WvW is a joke. Or do you zerg, or do you play thief/mesmer(due stealth and teleports) to escape the ganks and zergs. You cant rlly roam alone, unless you want some1 stomping ur dead body after a 2v1 3v1 4v1 5v1 etc..
Sometimes it take like 1h for me roaming alone to find a single 1v1 battle…rlly…1 hour!!!!!

I know gw2 PVE map system isnt made for competion, just for coperation. But why doesnt ANET try to create a TEST OVERFLOW, with any map of Tyria, and make it open PK. Ppl would enter this overflow if they want., if they choose it from any command or portal idk. Just test it. If it proves its broken, just delete it. No1 will Cry on foruns, since they choosed to be there.

Im sure it will be full of people. From my experience in free mmo’s, people love world PK and it would be amazing to have it in GW2. I play gw2 since 2013, so i really would like to get some real pvp action, since WvW is BROKEN for small scale pvp.

I have not really played gw2 since HoT unless you count a couple of hours in Eternal Battlegrounds and a few short episodes in the new borders, but I have also really missed the Guild Wars 2 combat… whatever game I go into, GW2’s combat is superior in every way.

My dream would be a game like Ark Survival Evolved but with Guild Wars 2 combat. :P Open world, full PK. It doesn’t necessarily have to be full-loot loss if you die, but at least it would be better than WvW in it’s current state, because like you say it takes so long to find a decent fight.

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

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This idea has been around since beta and brought up many times. Early in the game I supported it but now I believe the population levels are too low to support open world PvP. It would be a lot of work on ANets part that will likely go unused by most players.

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Posted by: LetoII.3782

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The issue with Wildstar is at launch it seemed like nearly everyone wanted the pvp-open world servers.

Over time, pvp population disappeared and the consistent population was … wait for it … pve.

They had to merge to mega server to keep afloat.

The cachet of open world was incredibly popular initially, but didn’t have the chops for long term play.

Agreed, open pvp in leveling zones usually only lasts through the initial leveling surge. After that, it devolves into a few max level twinks engaging in what cheap fun they can find. Which is little, and greatly discourages those attempting to level from doing so.

It’s a great concept that doesn’t pass the reality test.