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Posted by: Havidos.9328

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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I don’t.

The achievements make PvE players try WvW, which might end up getting them interested and end up continue playing it. Which is a good thing.
Many PvE:ers usually won’t even try WvW but might find that they love it when they actually do.

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Posted by: Turamarth.3248

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I also disagree. Many people complained about the lack of accomplishable achievements for WvW. Now we have them.

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Posted by: Xae Isareth.1364

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Also, how would you then distinguish who actually put effort into doing WvW and the League and thus should be rewarded, and who just sat in La all day, and shouldn’t be rewarded for other people’s work?

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Posted by: Haralin.1473

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Make queues depend on WvW Rank all above 80 gets VIP Status and all <80 should wait cause that are all PvE gamers.

Now every one makes macros to stay in the borderlands for hours afking cause they know you need to wait years to come in.

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Posted by: zabriel.4852

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The achievements are awesome! End of Discussion. I think everyone else agrees!

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Posted by: Xae Isareth.1364

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Make queues depend on WvW Rank all above 80 gets VIP Status and all <80 should wait cause that are all PvE gamers.

Then does that mean if I;m new to the game and want to try WvW… I get shafted?

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Posted by: scootshoot.6583

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

Don’t like increased player presence leading to queues aye? The new map hopefully will be introduced soon…………

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Posted by: Tommyknocker.6089

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Count me among those that are happy we can finally get a few achievement points for our achievements. Why should someone that spends 90% of their time in WvW be robbed of the ability to get gems (5k AP’s) because they might never get them in WvW?

I don’t care if the AP hunting crowd comes to WvW to get them, as far as I’m concerned it makes my kills rise quicker due to their zerger armor wearing mentality. As far as queues go, it can be a royal pain, but ANet has already acknowledged the problem and are in the process of fixing it.

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Posted by: CharlieBear.2741

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

Don’t like increased player presence leading to queues aye? The new map hopefully will be introduced soon…………

Soon being, 2014?

These achievements are an awful idea. My server is ranked 17th in EU and we had queues on all borders at 3pm, wtf. People like me who play WvW everyday can’t even play WvW because we get stuck in a queue everytime we want to play.

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Posted by: scootshoot.6583

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

Don’t like increased player presence leading to queues aye? The new map hopefully will be introduced soon…………

Soon being, 2014?

These achievements are an awful idea. My server is ranked 17th in EU and we had queues on all borders at 3pm, wtf. People like me who play WvW everyday can’t even play WvW because we get stuck in a queue everytime we want to play.

Am in same boat, it is what it is. Hopefully they will have the new map up in the next week.

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Posted by: CharlieBear.2741

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

Don’t like increased player presence leading to queues aye? The new map hopefully will be introduced soon…………

Soon being, 2014?

These achievements are an awful idea. My server is ranked 17th in EU and we had queues on all borders at 3pm, wtf. People like me who play WvW everyday can’t even play WvW because we get stuck in a queue everytime we want to play.

Am in same boat, it is what it is. Hopefully they will have the new map up in the next week.

They said it comes in 2014, which is after the league.

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Posted by: scootshoot.6583

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

Don’t like increased player presence leading to queues aye? The new map hopefully will be introduced soon…………

Soon being, 2014?

These achievements are an awful idea. My server is ranked 17th in EU and we had queues on all borders at 3pm, wtf. People like me who play WvW everyday can’t even play WvW because we get stuck in a queue everytime we want to play.

Am in same boat, it is what it is. Hopefully they will have the new map up in the next week.

They said it comes in 2014, which is after the league.

They did? Link to that announcement?

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Posted by: selan.8354

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its actually fun here on fa. the pve players are lost at first, but we go them all in ts now and they seem to be having a lot of fun. some people that never played pvp in this game might have a rough time at first, but we help them with builds and all that and now they love it.

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

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Make queues depend on WvW Rank all above 80 gets VIP Status and all <80 should wait cause that are all PvE gamers.

Then does that mean if I;m new to the game and want to try WvW… I get shafted?

I agree with Xae. Haralin, this is totally elitist, please refrain from making posts like this. Very very egoistic. This is coming from a player who leveled 7 characters to 80 aswell, so mind what you say.

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Posted by: Forst.5863

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There is a strict imbalance here:
Low-activity servers get more players. Good.
High-activity servers get 2+ hour queues. Bad.

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Posted by: scootshoot.6583

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its actually fun here on fa. the pve players are lost at first, but we go them all in ts now and they seem to be having a lot of fun. some people that never played pvp in this game might have a rough time at first, but we help them with builds and all that and now they love it.

Cool. Never know, one of those newb pve players may soon find themselves addicted to WvW and become a Top Commander on your server.

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Posted by: Asudementio.8526

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

I don’t; i like the achievements and their rewards. You shouldn’t have stacked, dealw ith your queues.

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Posted by: Kaos.9162

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

Don’t like increased player presence leading to queues aye? The new map hopefully will be introduced soon…………

Soon being, 2014?

These achievements are an awful idea. My server is ranked 17th in EU and we had queues on all borders at 3pm, wtf. People like me who play WvW everyday can’t even play WvW because we get stuck in a queue everytime we want to play.

Am in same boat, it is what it is. Hopefully they will have the new map up in the next week.

They said it comes in 2014, which is after the league.

They did? Link to that announcement?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-edge-of-the-mists-a-new-map-is-coming-to-wvw/

“Testing of the map will go through the beginning of 2014, at a minimum. "

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Posted by: mako.2431

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I also disagree. Many people complained about the lack of accomplishable achievements for WvW. Now we have them.

What good are they when you can’t get in due to 4 hour long queues?

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

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I dont agree, the pve people will either learn or go back to pve. I do not see a problem. Perhaps for the tier 1, but that is just too bad.

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Posted by: Chuck Zitto.2367

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What exactly am I missing about achievement points anyways. The ap chests are like 1 gold every 500. You can make 1gold in a few minutes. Can’t people just continue doing there pve and Halloween stuff and get ap. Why all of a sudden do they have to come into wvw for them?

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Posted by: styx.7294

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Disagree, you should transfer.

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Posted by: azizul.8469

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totally disagree with OP.

you don’t have to do it if you hate it.

for me , i like it….

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Posted by: Terra Dactyl.2047

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What exactly am I missing about achievement points anyways. The ap chests are like 1 gold every 500. You can make 1gold in a few minutes. Can’t people just continue doing there pve and Halloween stuff and get ap. Why all of a sudden do they have to come into wvw for them?

Achievement points let them brag about how good they are at gw2 without them needing to actually be good at anything. They like being able to talk about how much more “hardcore” they are than someone with less achievement points because they can farm all 19 daily achievements 365 days a year.

If they don’t come into wvw and get the temporary achievements before they’re gone they might fall behind on the high scores and not be cool anymore.

Also they likely want their free loot for whatever place their server takes in the league so they can have a super 1337 wvw finisher to show off how awesome they are at a game mode they don’t play when they aren’t handing out free things.

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Posted by: Wemil.7052

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disagree an achievement shouldn’t been posted.

if it was any other corporation such as blizzard or CCP
they would have figured it out if they put this type of pve achievement inside WvW with limited population it could latterly blow up the server WvW players.

they should have made secondary map or something before getting achievement up.

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Posted by: Rainshine.5493

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It’s frustrating, but I don’t think ultimately it will be a bad thing. Got home from work after midnight, waited half an hour in queue for our home BG to discover only about 28 players actually coordinating with the pin.

That’s the frustrating part.

However, if we can get people who would not have otherwise set foot into WvW to find out they enjoy it — ESPECIALLY offpeak — then overall that’s a positive. We just gotta get through these growing pains first, where people run around killing sentries for achievements while we’re about to lose our upgraded keep.

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Posted by: Quaygal.5327

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I play a lot on the off hours of my server, so I don’t get as much time waiting in the queue. I also stay away from EBG. So the only real change I’ve seen is that I stomp a lot more players and I’ve got invaders passing right by as I slap their server’s yaks. A lot of the PvE player’s either don’t know how to fight other players, or don’t want to. Achievements can’t change that fact.

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Posted by: Nyxion.9142

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disagree an achievement shouldn’t been posted.

if it was any other corporation such as blizzard or CCP
they would have figured it out if they put this type of pve achievement inside WvW with limited population it could latterly blow up the server WvW players.

they should have made secondary map or something before getting achievement up.

One does not simply blow up CCP’s server – 50k pilots step up anet. EVE and WoW have a fee which allows them to sustain better servers, but simple things like time dilation doesn’t require lots of money. Of course new map is about to be released, but it’ll use crappy overflow system >: (

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Posted by: Vas.7306

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The upside of having more players who want to play wvw means that in the off hours your server isn’t as likely to lose everything, so you wont always have to log on to a completely captured Borderland or EB territory. That said, the queues are pretty long. But hey, silver linings!

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

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Why all of a sudden do they have to come into wvw for them?

Because, APs.

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Posted by: Fizzeltop.8307

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2 hr 15 min queue tonight. Bad idea for WvW dedicated guilds. Can’t get your guilds and teams onto the maps. Really disappointed with this.

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Posted by: Drawing Guy.3701

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Make queues depend on WvW Rank all above 80 gets VIP Status and all <80 should wait cause that are all PvE gamers.

Now every one makes macros to stay in the borderlands for hours afking cause they know you need to wait years to come in.

Ummm, actually under the stupid split up WvW Rank system, that wouldn’t work. I have 6 chars that I regularly WvW with. If they were added up I’d easily be in 100s for rank, but as it stands my highest is 40something. To have any mechanic that would exclude those that try to keep the game fresh with multiple chars would just be lame – I already am frustrated with everything else in this game that isn’t alt friendly.

As for the achievements in general, honestly they are the best thing that has ever happened for WvW activity. For all those that flocked to top rank servers for the easy win deserve the days of wait… the tier 4 and below are fielding some of their first (consistently) full maps. There are faces I’ve never seen on our side and some even listen to the commanders. But then I guess I only face 10 min queues at peak times so far, so it isn’t bothersome. :p

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Posted by: Terra Dactyl.2047

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For all those that flocked to top rank servers for the easy win deserve the days of wait…

What about those who have been on the tier 1 servers from day 1, or transferred many months ago because everyone in tier 2 and lower was fleeing in terror from their guild and they couldn’t get fights anymore below tier 1?

Do we also deserve the days of wait?

Anyone who transferred before leagues were announced hardly did it for “easy wins”. If we wanted that we’d have stacked a low tier server and steamrolled people instead.

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Posted by: Zylonite.5913

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No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

what? no. For once we WvW’ers can get some achievements.

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Posted by: ShiningMassXAcc.4735

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I would expect that the queue pressure will greatly release after weekend is up. Next weekend will likely have less queuing as well, with some of the AP hunters discouraged or finding wvw not tolerable for the AP.

It won’t go back to where it was, but I’m sure it will swindle some.