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Posted by: Willkilliam.5012

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Currently to get any of the gear in WvW if you were to start at level 1 now and try to get to 1500 it would take a year and a half.

In WoW an expansion comes out, but it doesn’t take a couple years to get the new gear it only takes a couple months which is alot more reasonable.

Think the Anet Devs need to take in consideration that the rate of which people will level will actually be exponentially slower due to queues and less play time because of the fact of limited time to play.

What can be done? Add a solution to fix the over population maybe a new map. lower the rank req to atleast 1000.

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Posted by: Blockhead Magee.3092

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What is WoW? Some game for pleebs?

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Posted by: Nightshade.2570

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Please don’t compare GW2 to WOW they are entirely different game structures and ideals.

Sorry but thats an insult to this game.

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Posted by: Willkilliam.5012

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Im just saying in General for progression, not comparing combat styles or anything of that such. WoW is technically a more successful MMO and there are reasons for it. Their progression systems are alot more balanced

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Posted by: Magnuzone.8395

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It will all sort itself out in a few days when some ppl give up on what they thought would be an easy farm.

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Posted by: Sly.9518

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You know the new gear doesn’t add any stats over any other Ascended, unlike wow where it’s a constant treadmill where you have to constantly replace your gear every 6-mos to a year…. these are skins to reward dedicated WvW players that provide no advantages

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Posted by: Willkilliam.5012

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Keep in mind that its technically easier and takes less time to get legendary armor like what?

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Posted by: Sly.9518

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Keep in mind that its technically easier and takes less time to get legendary armor like what?

It takes more skill and effort to get Legendary though just saying

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Posted by: Famine.7915

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Don’t even need to compare this to other games. Just compare the different game modes. Even if I just needed ascended gear for wvw, it is faster still to get it all through random drops in fractals than getting it in wvw.

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Posted by: Zalavaaris.5329

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Keep in mind that its technically easier and takes less time to get legendary armor like what?

You don’t even need to have all of your brain cells fully functional to run around in a blob. Now, if you couldn’t get the rewards from just doing that for 6 months straight I would say it might require some skill. In reality… WvW rewards take time and that is it. I will say though, it takes significantly longer to get WvW rewards than raiding rewards. You can get legendary armor in 12 weeks if you can hang. Nothing I said should be taken as a bash on WvW as I play both game modes. But objectively looking at both modes, as a player of both, it takes much more skill and effort to get raid gear. However, significantly less time (unless you want all 3 sets… then its pretty on par honestly).

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Posted by: Mirkava.8526

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Simply, if u are not a hardcore WvWer you shouldnt get that Gear in a year, you have 2 more tiers you can get. and pls, dont compare Gw2 to wow.
2k is too low for a t3 gear, they should have made it platinum and up only

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Posted by: DeeSystm.1256

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Keep in mind that its technically easier and takes less time to get legendary armor like what?

Pretty much in line with how rewards have always been given out in wvw relative to pve for a long time. Youll get used to it.

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Posted by: usnedward.9023

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In less than a year I was able to equip myself with ascended gear for light, medium and heavy armor toons by either crafting, RNGesus drops or PvP. I just finished my medium set by crafting last two pieces after receiving 4 via WvW drops. All of this and I hate farming and crafting yet I did not find it too difficult. Expensive? Not too bad since I break down everything I find which helps gaining materials faster.

I am not even close to hardcore anything and that’s that.

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Posted by: Lauri.1342

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Its fine like it is. 1500 or 2000 what ever the requirement is, is ok. 1000 would be way too low.

Finally wvw-ers got something good and now PVE- ers come here to cry.

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Posted by: neven.3785

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dont worry, there will be a couple wvw vets who agree with the pve-ers because they want their reward awarded retroactively vs actually earning the new rewards through current gameplay

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

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Currently to get any of the gear in WvW if you were to start at level 1 now and try to get to 1500 it would take a year and a half.

In WoW an expansion comes out, but it doesn’t take a couple years to get the new gear it only takes a couple months which is alot more reasonable.

You’ve compared apples to caramel apples. You don’t need a year and a half to get gear — this is just to get the skins. Ascended gear is already available through other sources and exotic is easily obtained with gold and badges alone.

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Posted by: neven.3785

neven.3785

i forgot to mention, a sellin a feature of this game is that it isn’t wow.

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Posted by: Rangerdeity.5847

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Keep in mind that its technically easier and takes less time to get legendary armor like what?

It takes more skill and effort to get Legendary though just saying

smashing your face against a raid until you eventually get muscle memory is skill now. RIP

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Posted by: Zalavaaris.5329

Zalavaaris.5329

Keep in mind that its technically easier and takes less time to get legendary armor like what?

It takes more skill and effort to get Legendary though just saying

smashing your face against a raid until you eventually get muscle memory is skill now. RIP

Not being good at something and then with time and effort becoming good at something is pretty much the DEFINITION of skill….

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Posted by: SnowHawk.3615

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No. The rank should stay. However the rate of rewards should be upped by a little. The math is off by a bit – but otherwise no, the rewards for those who have dedicated their time into wvw should be earned and not decreased for pvers.

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Posted by: SarahGobbi.2319

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Im a WoW fan, but you cant compare them. they are different in many ways. However I do agree that the progression to get the armor is absolutely absurd…..

I can get ascended armor much easier crafting, PvPing, or Fractals…..
Legendary armor even takes less time, so WvW rewards are pretty pointless imo.

I was hoping this update would drive me to do it, but there really isnt a reason to.

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Posted by: Sly.9518

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Im a WoW fan, but you cant compare them. they are different in many ways. However I do agree that the progression to get the armor is absolutely absurd…..

I can get ascended armor much easier crafting, PvPing, or Fractals…..
Legendary armor even takes less time, so WvW rewards are pretty pointless imo.

I was hoping this update would drive me to do it, but there really isnt a reason to.

It’s not for the tier of gear it’s for the skin…. and again comparing Legendary Armor Acquisition to Mistorforged armor is a big flaw, Raids take more skill than WvW to acquire Legendary armor on top of the time gate it has. It’s not hard to spam one in a Zerg ktraining around.

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Posted by: Bigpapasmurf.5623

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Imo (being only around 500 rank in WvW) I don’t want things like these armor/wep skins just handed to me. 2 months feels too easy and feels like it wasn’t rightfully earned. 2k ranks may be a ways for me (Im a filthy casual WvW’er due to real life adult stuff…but my focus is WvW), getting that armor and such feels like a true accomplishment that was well deserved.

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Posted by: slimike.1693

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these rewards were not aimed to be given to players starting at wvw rank 0. Its for the players who have played wvw for years with no rewards at all. an actual expansion would not be done like this.

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Posted by: Teon.5168

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WOW….. complete barf (And yea, I have played it……long ago…hated it…I would rather play Everquest)

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Posted by: Jumpin Lumpix.6108

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Currently to get any of the gear in WvW if you were to start at level 1 now and try to get to 1500 it would take a year and a half.

In WoW an expansion comes out, but it doesn’t take a couple years to get the new gear it only takes a couple months which is alot more reasonable.

Think the Anet Devs need to take in consideration that the rate of which people will level will actually be exponentially slower due to queues and less play time because of the fact of limited time to play.

What can be done? Add a solution to fix the over population maybe a new map. lower the rank req to atleast 1000.

i agree completely, I’d like to attain this armor sometime this year, otherwise this is just another unrealistic korean mmo grind

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Posted by: Teon.5168

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Currently to get any of the gear in WvW if you were to start at level 1 now and try to get to 1500 it would take a year and a half.

In WoW an expansion comes out, but it doesn’t take a couple years to get the new gear it only takes a couple months which is alot more reasonable.

Think the Anet Devs need to take in consideration that the rate of which people will level will actually be exponentially slower due to queues and less play time because of the fact of limited time to play.

What can be done? Add a solution to fix the over population maybe a new map. lower the rank req to atleast 1000.

i agree completely, I’d like to attain this armor sometime this year, otherwise this is just another unrealistic korean mmo grind

Just curious…..do you play wvw for rewards? (Honest question….not trying to be sarcastic, judgemental, or anything)

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Posted by: Jumpin Lumpix.6108

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Currently to get any of the gear in WvW if you were to start at level 1 now and try to get to 1500 it would take a year and a half.

In WoW an expansion comes out, but it doesn’t take a couple years to get the new gear it only takes a couple months which is alot more reasonable.

Think the Anet Devs need to take in consideration that the rate of which people will level will actually be exponentially slower due to queues and less play time because of the fact of limited time to play.

What can be done? Add a solution to fix the over population maybe a new map. lower the rank req to atleast 1000.

i agree completely, I’d like to attain this armor sometime this year, otherwise this is just another unrealistic korean mmo grind

Just curious…..do you play wvw for rewards?

I only do content for rewards, if there is no rewards i usually don’t play the content. I like treasure what can i say. I do all types of content though and play all game modes I do enjoy it sometimes, but a lot of it is tedious in my opinion and a lot of my enjoyment comes from getting rewards.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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Wait we have “WvW gear” gear now? What is the stats, +power, +vitality, +salt?

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Posted by: Teon.5168

Teon.5168

Currently to get any of the gear in WvW if you were to start at level 1 now and try to get to 1500 it would take a year and a half.

In WoW an expansion comes out, but it doesn’t take a couple years to get the new gear it only takes a couple months which is alot more reasonable.

Think the Anet Devs need to take in consideration that the rate of which people will level will actually be exponentially slower due to queues and less play time because of the fact of limited time to play.

What can be done? Add a solution to fix the over population maybe a new map. lower the rank req to atleast 1000.

i agree completely, I’d like to attain this armor sometime this year, otherwise this is just another unrealistic korean mmo grind

Just curious…..do you play wvw for rewards?

I only do content for rewards, if there is no rewards i usually don’t play the content. I like treasure what can i say. I do all types of content though and play all game modes I do enjoy it sometimes, but a lot of it is tedious in my opinion and a lot of my enjoyment comes from getting rewards.

Fair enough. I got no problems with that. People play the game for different reasons.

Best of luck!

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Posted by: XenesisII.1540

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The progression for both games are different and not comparable.

WoW releases new content with a new difficulty that requires new gear levels to progress through, every 3-6 months.

GW2 doesn’t really progress, everything at the top end can be done with exotic gear, with ascended being the top reachable gear, with that approach they decided working for years for a set of ascended or legendary gear is acceptable.

I don’t necessary agree with the time gating they have in place for wvw gear, first you need skirmish tickets, and then you also need a lot of ranks. In my opinion no game should expect you to play for two years to earn a reward, even if it’s free to play, that’s why the wvw achievements were outrageous to begin with.

Having said that, there had to be restrictions in place to make the gear acquisition less desirable to pve players, so we didn’t get players who only wanted easy loot (like spvp s5), but not to ones who do enjoy the game mode and should be rewarded for that play time.

Wvw players have been hardened already by the lack of rewards for many years, to many of them 2k ranks for the last piece doesn’t seem to be a big deal, that part will already be done for a lot of them, that zerged anyways not sure how fair it is to those that roamed and scouted a lot, it’s the ticket acquisition rate that may be an issue.

Finished my chests tonight, also got about 50 ranks in 3 days, while it’s nice have a weekly track as a goal to work on to get tickets, it feels like this will burn me out in the coming weeks, never mind months.

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Posted by: sauceDinho.1085

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You know the new gear doesn’t add any stats over any other Ascended, unlike wow where it’s a constant treadmill where you have to constantly replace your gear every 6-mos to a year…. these are skins to reward dedicated WvW players that provide no advantages

This is all that needs to be said on the topic.

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

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Unlike WoW, the difference between exotic and ascended is fairly minor. For condi builds, the difference is very minor. The big difference is in the base damage of the weapon on power builds but even that isn’t particularly debilitating. In WoW, being under-geared is very difficult to overcome.

Besides, ascended Jewelry can be bought simply by logging in each day or doing some simple PvE dailies or WvW Reward Tracks. Ascended Weapons and Armor can be crafted quickly with gold.

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