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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

“Added the Gift of Battle Item reward track and removed the vendors that previously sold gifts of battle.”

Please add the vendor back so we have options. Thank you.

Edit- I’m speculating here from legendary armor and a recent forum and reddit post… Could be wrong here, but looks like maybe legendary armor will require 6 Gifts of Battle… If this is true then I sincerely hope this is changed honestly.

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Posted by: Trepidation Lost.3469

Trepidation Lost.3469

no mechent sells it in bl maps anymore haha

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Posted by: Trepidation Lost.3469

Trepidation Lost.3469

i.e you can’t get it anymore, go look.

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Posted by: Trepidation Lost.3469

Trepidation Lost.3469

Only me who is bothered by this ? ok then.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

Might help if you read the patch notes from two weeks ago m’dear:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6111787

L’enfer, c’est les autres

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Posted by: PyrateSilly.4710

PyrateSilly.4710

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Posted by: HazyDaisy.4107

HazyDaisy.4107

It was mentioned in the pairings beta patch notes when beta was over the gift of battle would only be attainable through reward tracks.

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Posted by: Trepidation Lost.3469

Trepidation Lost.3469

I’ve done the triumphant reward track 4 times already when am i supposed to magically get it?

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Posted by: Trepidation Lost.3469

Trepidation Lost.3469

Ah okay. You can only get it in EB now.
Although this is kind of problematic seing as eb now has 100+ que time.

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Posted by: Vavume.8065

Vavume.8065

Ah okay. You can only get it in EB now.
Although this is kind of problematic seing as eb now has 100+ que time.

If you really think that is a problem I suggest you buy a few of them when you can, since when they are only obtainable via reward tracks I would say that would take problematic to the next level.

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Posted by: KidB.7592

KidB.7592

why the inconvenience?…….3 yrs to get around to making legendary and now you remove Battle Master

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Posted by: Gilburt.9146

Gilburt.9146

Added the Gift of Battle Item reward track and removed the vendors that previously sold gifts of battle.

~Patch Notes

Seriously? I’ve played hundreds of hours of WvW in the past, but now the thousands of Badges of Honor I’ve earned are completely worthless if I want to make another core game legendary? Who was asking for this change and why was there no warning?

Edit: A “warning” hidden in patch notes that are 18,000 words long is a terrible warning…

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Posted by: Crise.9401

Crise.9401

I can’t support this… You want to make legendaries, learn to play different game types… perfectly fine with that considering how royally obsolete as a currency Badges of Honor are.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

There was a warning some weeks ago (the April patch) when they introduced the wvw reward tracks.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6102518

“WvW—REWARD TRACKS (Beta)
Reward tracks have been added to World vs. World. These are nearly identical to the reward tracks you find in PvP, except that some rewards have been adjusted to be geared toward WvW players. One of the tracks offers players a chance to earn the new WvW-exclusive Triumphant armor set! Also, once the reward tracks feature exits beta testing, the Gift of Battle legendary crafting component will no longer be available as a vendor purchase and will be earned via its own reward track.

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Posted by: HardRider.2980

HardRider.2980

They did…. months ago.

If you cba to give up with the latest information, that’s not Anets fault.

We are heroes. This is what we do!

RIP City of Heroes

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Posted by: Xiahou Mao.9701

Xiahou Mao.9701

They warned that this was coming back in April, when they added WvW Reward Tracks. They said that when the Reward Tracks came out of beta, they’d remove the Gift of Battle from vendors and make a new Reward Track for it.

I bought my Gift of Battle in advance because of this.

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Posted by: Nordom.3485

Nordom.3485

Imo that was a needed change, it was that easy to get gift of battle that i purchased it without knowing what it does a couple of times just to realise i don’t need it and throw it away. It was very cheap to begin with and extremely accessible,plus you didn’t really have to work for it; there’s nothing legendary about that.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

There was a warning. You just didn’t read it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/6102561

Also, once the reward tracks feature exits beta testing, the Gift of Battle legendary crafting component will no longer be available as a vendor purchase and will be earned via its own reward track.

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Posted by: kschmidt.5901

kschmidt.5901

Agreed at least put the vendors back for a limited time. I’m sitting on tons of badges and have been working on other things like world completion for my legendary. Now I suddenly have to go back to grinding a WvW reward track for a part that I had already completed.

I love WvW and spend most of my time there, so it won’t take long but having this as an unannounced change sucks. Let those of us with the badges buy the gift for another week or 2 then remove the vendors.

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Posted by: Jabaxaro.5463

Jabaxaro.5463

Agreed at least put the vendors back for a limited time. I’m sitting on tons of badges and have been working on other things like world completion for my legendary. Now I suddenly have to go back to grinding a WvW reward track for a part that I had already completed.

Exactly this for my friend I have been running through WvW lately…

It seems quite unfair all this work spent toward it is entirely void now.

If you want to add a Reward Track for it, go ahead, just don’t suddenly eliminate the previous method a lot of people might just have been going for…

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

Imo that was a needed change, it was that easy to get gift of battle that i purchased it without knowing what it does a couple of times just to realise i don’t need it and throw it away. It was very cheap to begin with and extremely accessible,plus you didn’t really have to work for it; there’s nothing legendary about that.

There is nothing legendary about most aspects of legendary crafting so that isn’t a particularly good argument.

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Posted by: Hoid Ankou.3096

Hoid Ankou.3096

Agree with kschmidt. Limited time (one week) for people to buy the Gift of Battle would be much appreciated.

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Posted by: Crise.9401

Crise.9401

Now I suddenly have to go back to grinding a WvW reward track for a part that I had already completed.

While I think your compromise is a good one, as I believe they should have announced this change in advance. However, I can’t help but to point out that had you completed this part already that implies having purchased Gift of Battle. As in why keep putting it off if you have had the badges…

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Posted by: Convallaria.8469

Convallaria.8469

I am incredibly disappointed at the choice to remove merchants that sell Gifts of Battle from WvW – we’ve already done the work to earn the Badges of Honor, and now you want us to do even more work to earn a Gift of Battle?

For those of us who are working diligently on our legendary weapons, this is a kick to the face – just more grind added to the already insurmountable grind-and-wait, grind-and-wait that GW2 has become.

Granting the player the ability to create precursors and legendaries was a boon to those of us who have never been graced by the RNG gods. But the lack of mystic coin availability, the long wait to amass enough to make a legendary and the countless tracks one must complete to acquire mystic clovers/obsidian shards (about those Karma boosts..) was an awful lot to expect of someone who is just trying to obtain the end-all-be-all in the game. This new track, which is the only way to now obtain a Gift of Battle is akin being taxed twice for the work, and that’s very nearly enough to make me walk away from this game forever.

This does not add incentive to an already grindy game, folks.

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Posted by: PyrateSilly.4710

PyrateSilly.4710

They DID announce this a few weeks ago.

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Posted by: Soon.5240

Soon.5240

The so called “rewards” on the track are dragonite ore and empyreal fragments???? Really? Like I don’t have enough of these?

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Posted by: Nordom.3485

Nordom.3485

Imo that was a needed change, it was that easy to get gift of battle that i purchased it without knowing what it does a couple of times just to realise i don’t need it and throw it away. It was very cheap to begin with and extremely accessible,plus you didn’t really have to work for it; there’s nothing legendary about that.

There is nothing legendary about most aspects of legendary crafting so that isn’t a particularly good argument.

Then there you go, now you have 1 more reason to think it’s about making legendaries. Also I doubt you can argue against that it was the only “gift” you could get practically for free

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

Agreed at least put the vendors back for a limited time. I’m sitting on tons of badges and have been working on other things like world completion for my legendary. Now I suddenly have to go back to grinding a WvW reward track for a part that I had already completed.

I love WvW and spend most of my time there, so it won’t take long but having this as an unannounced change sucks. Let those of us with the badges buy the gift for another week or 2 then remove the vendors.

Not a limited time, back to the way it was. There is more than enough grind in the game and the 500 badges was enough really.

Edit- or just have both… Such a silly change really.

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Posted by: PyrateSilly.4710

PyrateSilly.4710

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Posted by: Jabaxaro.5463

Jabaxaro.5463

They DID announce this a few weeks ago.

Upon research it was included in April 19 Patch Notes?

Couldn’t they have made this information more publicly obvious than specific patch notes that came out before I returned to the game?

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Posted by: Nemesis.2019

Nemesis.2019

I did not know of this change, Anet needs a better way of talking to the gamers who have no time to read the forums, some of these changes should be mailed to gamers in a weekly in game mail, or some type of prompt on screen about future changes..

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Posted by: Valejo.1950

Valejo.1950

I think this is a rlly bad choice, atm im at the lowest server of my continent, and i can promise wvw is no fun at all and now i have to grind events to get this stupid reward track full… normaly id say i wont build any more legys, but im currently at one and thought buy the gift last… kitten im dumb…

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Posted by: Ellieanna.5027

Ellieanna.5027

I did not know of this change, Anet needs a better way of talking to the gamers who have no time to read the forums, some of these changes should be mailed to gamers in a weekly in game mail, or some type of prompt on screen about future changes..

If you have time to read an email, you have time to check the forums for the update. If you really don’t have any time at all to do that, then how do you have time to play Gw2?

I don’t want being mailed in game about changes.I don’t want to spend more time deleting something that I knew about, and that I think all the guilds I’m in with people (I have 4, the 5th is a private personal guild) all talked about it.

I’m a Moose, a ginger moose even.

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Posted by: Aeristoreine.9351

Aeristoreine.9351

Please revert the change and allow us to purchase the gift of battle from vendor with badges again. This change was totally unnecessary. Why force people to play wvw through this way? If you want ppl to play wvw, then make a change so desirable that people wants to play it. Not everyone is interested in wvw and not everyone will therefore read the patch notes under wvw.

First you stopped legendary development and now you make things harder for us. Good job ANET, you are losing players very quickly.

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Posted by: CaptainCaveman.7348

CaptainCaveman.7348

Please revert the change and allow us to purchase the gift of battle from vendor with badges again. This change was totally unnecessary. Why force people to play wvw through this way? If you want ppl to play wvw, then make a change so desirable that people wants to play it. Not everyone is interested in wvw and not everyone will therefore read the patch notes under wvw.

First you stopped legendary development and now you make things harder for us. Good job ANET, you are losing players very quickly.

Now you know how we feel when they force us to play PvE to get trinkets and better armor.

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Posted by: Foghladha.2506

Foghladha.2506

Brother Gilbirt, those badges can be converted to badges of tribute which are highly valuble on the tp. Its not hard to unlock a full path. Usually takes about 4-6 hours of wvw to unlock a full track. The badges of honor are not wasted. Theres a lot you can use them for.

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

Please revert the change and allow us to purchase the gift of battle from vendor with badges again. This change was totally unnecessary. Why force people to play wvw through this way? If you want ppl to play wvw, then make a change so desirable that people wants to play it. Not everyone is interested in wvw and not everyone will therefore read the patch notes under wvw.

First you stopped legendary development and now you make things harder for us. Good job ANET, you are losing players very quickly.

Yes, unnecessary change is unnecessary change.

Adding is always better than taking away.

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Posted by: Gilburt.9146

Gilburt.9146

There was a warning. You just didn’t read it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/6102561

Also, once the reward tracks feature exits beta testing, the Gift of Battle legendary crafting component will no longer be available as a vendor purchase and will be earned via its own reward track.

A buried warning in a wall of patch notes. These were some of the longest patch notes ever released. Sorry I didn’t read every line of them… Patch Notes are not where I should have to go to read a warning about upcoming changes.

Brother Gilburt – Guard / Agent Gilburt – Thief

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Posted by: Hesacon.8735

Hesacon.8735

I’ve completed dozens of wvw rewards tracks already, they don’t take too long if you are playing wvw anyway.

What I’m more interested is what this means:

The Silverwastes WvW reward track Carapace Armor Box now contains all pieces of Carapace armor instead of just the gloves.

Since the track is not repeatable.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

I don’t really agree with this change either

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Posted by: HardRider.2980

HardRider.2980

Tbf, Takes very little effort to gain the badges lol.
Especially on reset.

We are heroes. This is what we do!

RIP City of Heroes

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Posted by: Gilburt.9146

Gilburt.9146

If you have time to read an email, you have time to check the forums for the update. If you really don’t have any time at all to do that, then how do you have time to play Gw2?

Because the April patch notes were totally the same length as the average email? No, they weren’t…. Expecting every player to read the full patch notes for a one sentence warning is ridiculous (especially for a patch the size as the April update).

Brother Gilburt – Guard / Agent Gilburt – Thief

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Posted by: Blockhead Magee.3092

Blockhead Magee.3092

I don’t understand why they couldn’t leave the vendor as it was. Sure, add the reward track, but why does that mean that the vendor option had to go?

SBI

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Posted by: Aeristoreine.9351

Aeristoreine.9351

Not everyone has the time to read the entire patch notes. And since when do you even read the entire email? Do you even work? People usually selectively read whats important, and in terms of game context, content that interest people. Why not add a “LEGENDARY component” section to categorise this change? I will totally read it. I will be a fool if I don’t cuz thats my biggest motivation in the game (i.e. we read things that interest us, not everyone has the time to read a wall of text, we got work yea?).

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

Im not against the change, but I also missed the comms on this one.

I am not overly concerned about that, but I agree this is where communication needs improving going forward. If they can mail players about wvw polls in game, this could have been added as well

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Posted by: SkyFallsInThunder.8257

SkyFallsInThunder.8257

we’ve already done the work to earn the Badges of Honor,

Yes, many work, very effort, WOW!

You’re gotta be kidding me with this argument…

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Posted by: Urosh Uchiha.9732

Urosh Uchiha.9732

I don’t really care that this changed. But I am angry that I wasn’t aware of their ‘warning’.
Now I have a few thousand Badges of Honor that I was keeping for Gifts of Battle that I can no longer buy.

I can’t even describe how dumb this is. The same thing happened back in the day with the Karma consumable change and how the boosters and other items affected it. They reverted their change for a few days so that people can use their Karma before the change goes permanent.

I honestly hope they bring back the vendor for a day or a few and let people who weren’t aware of this to use their Badges of Honor.

If not well… no more legendary weapons for me since I hate the WvWvW. The only reason why I have so many badges is thanks to those WvWvW seasons that happend a while back.

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Posted by: Auvili.9501

Auvili.9501

Ok i can understand why they did this change to make more people do WvW. However to force people to play a game type they hate just to make a legendary is not good.

The old way worked fine, and yes if you want you can still add in as many reward tracks you like to drive people to play that game type but with out punishing the people who do not like that game type.

You are not forced to play PvP to make a legendary so what should you be forced to play WvW to do so.

Auvili
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Posted by: Najten.2418

Najten.2418

Well this is disappointing.. Saved up my badges for nothing now then, and set my craft back weeks.

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Posted by: Urosh Uchiha.9732

Urosh Uchiha.9732

I also vote for the vendor to be back for a limited time. Now everyone is aware of the change. They will use it well.