Guild Wars 2

defrule.7236:

This is Piken you’re talking about, we never double team, only our enemies double team us.

I was an eye witness of a massive PS, and VS blob standing next to ea other in SM and did not engage in combat. After defeating SFR blob one of them capped the other left, still not fighting each other. Never say never mate!

Valheru Baal.9456:

Demannu.2805:

Simple as that Troma made better community than all those brain dead GvG guilds did as result Vizunah was and is best EU server. Yes they ddos yes they spy on ts and in game yes they manipulated mindless monkeys for double teaming. But there is saying anything works during war now go tell stories about honor and all other funky stuff. Nobody prevented u from doing the same what Vizunah did

Big respect to Troma and whole GCA hope this will bring positive changes to my beloved SFR

Cheers

Champion of Khorne

Is this for real? War? DDoS? Honestly I highly recommend you to visit a doctor ASAP. You have clearly no idea about wars, and DDoS must not be a tool to win a GAME. All those included should be permanently banned.

Spying on ts? Meh if you want to, its just lame as hell, but you could hear how much of a good time the other server is having while you are sitting in your chair all tense and grinding your teeth to grab some virtual points.

Well SFR TS gets ddos attacked whenever we play vizuna. Maybe it’s not your servers ‘official tactic’ but one or some of your Vizuna players are doing it and Vizuna should be ashamed of this and trying to find the player responsible.

Oh and also we had a Vizuna guy who used to come on and drain our supplies from keep and towers building balistas etc and would troll in chat using french. He only came when we fought vizuna. We kept reporting him and he is gone now so hope he got banned.

I could list more of there behaviours but I’m sure you get the point. If you think players on your server are not using pathetic underhanded tactics youre wrong. Very wrong. Some vizuna players take winning so serious they are willing to cheat and ruin the game for others. Other servers have done bad stuff too like glitching into towers but not on the scale that Vizu does. Prehaps you aren’t aware of it as you don’t see it first hand.

Piken will always be Troma’s kitten

Undeserved 1st place to VZ imo, Piken were always going to chose who won it, Working together or not, How could you want VZ to win it. They have improved granted, But I remember the days of old, SFR 2.0 version, glory days and the VZ night blob, we had to pull night/morning shift as a medium server and still managed to beat the full VZ server in all there tier 1 might, Even now they said SFR would be the next blacktide but they still stand, not as strong and Very High Server Status now seen as it got bandwagon to kitten.

Oh well, It’s only a silly looking finisher anyhow, Play for fights not PPT, and actually enjoy the game guys

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Piken has always worked as a community which agrees to do things certain ways, we have always gone for the strongest opponent in a matchup(more/better fights). The 1st week in the season we were focused on fighting Viz not SFR, you guys just happen to be in the wrong place at the right time(for us that is(we also had the “PvE” players come play enmasse, 4 hour queues that 1st week).
Piken does not take the easy path because there is no challenge in it, this week it looks like we are more focused on AR but that just because their stuff is easy/quick to take in the breaks between fighting Viz.
We have great fights between every other server, the only servers that never lived up to being “great” are SFR and Deso mainly due to the way they are so point focused and never run in groups of less than 50+.
We will finish the season where we finish it, it doesn’t really matter too much to the majority of us on Piken as we’ve had some good fun in this inaugural season.
As for the final week we shall play it as we always do, for fun not to worry about what the score is. We will not accept any request or bribe from SFR to deliberately team up against Viz, so you guys can stop asking about it.

Okay, so lets get some things straight. The first week was bad for every populated server. Thats what I’ve said before and you have repeated me like I would not know about it. The first week PS did not focus VS, they focused SFR. On this site http://gw2wvw.org/?region=2&tier=1 you could have checked that PS focused SFR 66% and only 34% VS. That means you went for us twice as much. Yet again this week you say it JUST looks like you focus AR more, while the statistics say its almost 80% on AR, and only 20% on vizu. Thats 4 times as much.

Great fights are not necessarily bound to numbers on each side. It is just about how the fights are played. And you are not there yet (no great moves, strategics we have encountered) to entertain the other side even if you win or lose the fight.

Again another player who uses the word never so easily. You say we never run less than 50+, lol really? And what about PS, or every other server in the gold league. I have seen enormous blobs from every server multiple times this season. You are basically at a childs level pointing fingers who blobs more. Very constructive I must say.

You will not accept any bribe from SFR to team up against VS? Where did this come from? Some troll pm-ed your commander? SFR never had intentions to do anything together with other servers, let alone PS. We will fight and probably place 2 in the end where we belong.

wux.7314:

Well SFR TS gets ddos attacked whenever we play vizuna. Maybe it’s not your servers ‘official tactic’ but one or some of your Vizuna players are doing it and Vizuna should be ashamed of this and trying to find the player responsible.

Oh and also we had a Vizuna guy who used to come on and drain our supplies from keep and towers building balistas etc and would troll in chat using french. He only came when we fought vizuna. We kept reporting him and he is gone now so hope he got banned.

I could list more of there behaviours but I’m sure you get the point. If you think players on your server are not using pathetic underhanded tactics youre wrong. Very wrong. Some vizuna players take winning so serious they are willing to cheat and ruin the game for others. Other servers have done bad stuff too like glitching into towers but not on the scale that Vizu does. Prehaps you aren’t aware of it as you don’t see it first hand.

Are you talking to me? I do not understand you. I am an SFR player, just like Demannu. I simply just find disgusting to compare a GAME to a real life war where those rules apply. He says nobody prevents us to do the same as VS does. With this logic everyone could just use hacks because its WAR am I right? No, stupid dumb point of view.

Spies on TS, I do not mind, lame as hell but I don’t mind. Being double teamed= more lootbags for me. DDoS definitely not acceptable and should be punished. All the other things you have said are the same thing I have said before. Did you misread something?

Valheru Baal.9456:

Okay, so lets get some things straight. The first week was bad for every populated server. Thats what I’ve said before and you have repeated me like I would not know about it. The first week PS did not focus VS, they focused SFR. On this site http://gw2wvw.org/?region=2&tier=1 you could have checked that PS focused SFR 66% and only 34% VS.

If you don’t quote SFR stats in this analogy, it’s otherwise misleading. SFR focused Piken just as much, if not more, than they did Viz, because your guys discovered the same thing we did — it was incredibly difficult to flip anything on Viz maps. Saying we did something while effectively ignoring your own servers actions is false logic.

Valheru Baal.9456:

Great fights are not necessarily bound to numbers on each side. It is just about how the fights are played. And you are not there yet (no great moves, strategics we have encountered) to entertain the other side even if you win or lose the fight.
. You are basically at a childs level pointing fingers who blobs more. Very constructive I must say.

Quoted the above for irony.

Valheru Baal.9456:

You will not accept any bribe from SFR to team up against VS? Where did this come from? Some troll pm-ed your commander? SFR never had intentions to do anything together with other servers, let alone PS. We will fight and probably place 2 in the end where we belong.

You need to check with your leaders. Several posts were made and reported by many many Piken guilds that members of SFR approached them on their individual forums asking to team up vs Viz in the final match. They offered to “push Jade sea to third this week to ensure we would share third spot in the leagues if we helped SFR beat Viz” when most of us did the math and recognized that any “favour” to push Jade Sea would help only SFR really and ensure they got at least second spot alone (not sure why there’s greed on that since all tied servers get the exact same reward, so SFR loses nothing really by sharing second spot). Anyhow, you can imagine how well that went over.

Lol, it at least gave us insight as to how things were orchestrated the week prior

Jayne.9251:

If you don’t quote SFR stats in this analogy, it’s otherwise misleading. SFR focused Piken just as much, if not more, than they did Viz, because your guys discovered the same thing we did — it was incredibly difficult to flip anything on Viz maps. Saying we did something while effectively ignoring your own servers actions is false logic.

I have never said SFR did not focus PS more than VS that week. I just simply responded to what your server mate said. It is false to say PS focused VS more, because you did not. Thats all I have said. Nobody was talking about SFR’s focus. I just don’t see how it is false logic to point out something thats clearly not true. Pls tell me.

Jayne.9251:

You need to check with your leaders. Several posts were made and reported by many many Piken guilds that members of SFR approached them on their individual forums asking to team up vs Viz in the final match. They offered to “push Jade sea to third this week to ensure we would share third spot in the leagues if we helped SFR beat Viz” when most of us did the math and recognized that any “favour” to push Jade Sea would help only SFR really and ensure they got at least second spot alone (not sure why there’s greed on that since all tied servers get the exact same reward, so SFR loses nothing really by sharing second spot). Anyhow, you can imagine how well that went over.

Lol, it at least gave us insight as to how things were orchestrated the week prior

If Jade Sea had the same points as SFR we would not be tied since every time we have encountered them we placed first. In every scoring system it favors the side that won more against the other one. Yet, as you have said SFR does not want to have the same points as they do, so the focus is on them right now.

BTW I do not need to check with anyone. The will of our community and leaders is well known and teaming up with Piken is not part of it. Some indivuduals may have done those things you have said, or may not have. But to be honest I could not care less since it does not have any effect on what will really happen. On 5th week SFR wanted PS to finish last for two reasons: 1. to ensure our second place in the league, 2. becuase we COULD (the first week created some delusions in some heads that needed correction).

RS and SFR focused PS because it was beneficial for both. No schemes or planning was needed, it was crystal clear for everyone who understands basic mathematics. It all lives in your head bud.

Valheru Baal.9456:

Jayne.9251:

If you don’t quote SFR stats in this analogy, it’s otherwise misleading. SFR focused Piken just as much, if not more, than they did Viz, because your guys discovered the same thing we did — it was incredibly difficult to flip anything on Viz maps. Saying we did something while effectively ignoring your own servers actions is false logic.

I have never said SFR did not focus PS more than VS that week. I just simply responded to what your server mate said. It is false to say PS focused VS more, because you did not. Thats all I have said. Nobody was talking about SFR’s focus. I just don’t see how it is false logic to point out something thats clearly not true. Pls tell me.

By presenting only one side of the facts you show bias, so therefore any argument is negligible.

Valheru Baal.9456:

If Jade Sea had the same points as SFR we would not be tied since every time we have encountered them we placed first. In every scoring system it favors the side that won more against the other one. Yet, as you have said SFR does not want to have the same points as they do, so the focus is on them right now. .

Well except for this:

DevonCarver.5370:

If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.

And except for the fact that the scoring system indeed would have you tied for second spot if JS took second this week, regardless of prior match history. And if you all get the same reward anyhow, not sure why this is such a big deal.

Valheru Baal.9456:

BTW I do not need to check with anyone. The will of our community and leaders is well known and teaming up with Piken is not part of it. Some indivuduals may have done those things you have said, or may not have..

Indeed. Like the OP

Valheru Baal.9456:

RS and SFR focused PS because it was beneficial for both. No schemes or planning was needed, it was crystal clear for everyone who understands basic mathematics. It all lives in your head bud.

Kind of like the first round of the leagues? Ooooh, see what I did there?

Only difference is we didn’t have people saying we were going to “punish” SFR or other emotional silliness over a video game. So far SFR is the only one to do that. I think most sensible players would recognize that’s a bit odd, at the least.

Valheru Baal.9456:

Okay, so lets get some things straight. The first week was bad for every populated server. Thats what I’ve said before and you have repeated me like I would not know about it.

The way you worded it is the same way every SFR player words it, like it’s something that affects them alone. I was just making you aware that other servers faced the same problem, forgive me if you are not able to handle this being on the “victim complex” server. Next time anyone says something along similar lines as a previous poster i’ll make sure to point out to them that it’s already known and not to bother………

Valheru Baal.9456:

The first week PS did not focus VS, they focused SFR. On this site http://gw2wvw.org/?region=2&tier=1 you could have checked that PS focused SFR 66% and only 34% VS. That means you went for us twice as much. Yet again this week you say it JUST looks like you focus AR more, while the statistics say its almost 80% on AR, and only 20% on vizu. Thats 4 times as much.

Maybe try to read what i said again, i know generally people on SFR don’t understand it but i’ll repeat it in hopes the words might get through this time. We focused on Viz in the 1st week not SFR, our server enjoys fighting open field more not capping towers/keeps so we fight with Viz……have some fun……wipe or wipe them…..then in the time between the fights we go cap towers/keeps. It just so happens that Viz know how to protect thier stuff whereas your server like the majority of others, doesn’t(Piken included).
So…….heres the important part………we get a majority of our points off other servers coz they cannot defend properly but have better open field fights with Viz so we always make sure we can get a good fight and in the downtime cap something to keep everyone moving and interested(quick in and out, job done then for the fun of a fight with a decent opponent).
Piken has always played for the fun of fights not for capping stuff or watching our ppt like other servers seem to. It’s something servers like yours has never understood.

Valheru Baal.9456:

Great fights are not necessarily bound to numbers on each side. It is just about how the fights are played. And you are not there yet (no great moves, strategics we have encountered) to entertain the other side even if you win or lose the fight.

Well that just goes to show that either you haven’t played the game long or don’t really know many people on Piken that have been here for more than 2 months. Piken has had the majority of the top guilds in GW start on and play on our server at one point or another. The reason i mention this is because Piken worked it’s way from the bottom to the top purely on fighting better than the other servers we met(yes we win and lose matches too), all through that rise through the ranks over the few months we never once played for the points. We never will(at least i hope we never turn out that way).

Valheru Baal.9456:

Again another player who uses the word never so easily. You say we never run less than 50+, lol really? And what about PS, or every other server in the gold league. I have seen enormous blobs from every server multiple times this season. You are basically at a childs level pointing fingers who blobs more. Very constructive I must say.

Oh you caught me using a generalisation that isn’t accurate 100%, quick slap the cuffs on me and lock me up…..
I will say in all the times we’ve faced SFR i have seen a group of 20-30 players(guild group or not)maybe 20 times(this is while running around in a party of a few or as my guild of 20). Now from servers like ER/JS/BB/RS/AR/Viz i see that in the space of a couple of days usually just 1 day. Maybe i’m just very very unlucky and have never been on at the same time as these small group players or maybe it was the wrong border……chance is a wonderful thing.

Valheru Baal.9456:

You will not accept any bribe from SFR to team up against VS? Where did this come from? Some troll pm-ed your commander? SFR never had intentions to do anything together with other servers, let alone PS. We will fight and probably place 2 in the end where we belong.

We have been approached by several members of you community/hierachy to help them beat Viz, yes the trolls have been at it too but also several “well respected” members of your community are too. We have turned down/ignored them all even when they offered to give us 50g a piece(commanders only that is)to help them, not entirely sure how serious that guy was but as he’s not a known troll and is a prominent member of your community i’m not sure. Whatever…… Piken will do as we always do, play the game for fun fights and not worry about wether we have enough ppt for some pixels.

Piken will do as always do deny to fight their masters Vizunah. End of story.

And ZD will head to NA to pv-door when the going gets tough on SFR

Feel free to PM me the names, I’m in no way an officer or admin of sorts but I’ll make sure this story gets investigated if need be.

Jayne.9251:

By presenting only one side of the facts you show bias, so therefore any argument is negligible.

Okay now I do not know if you are stupid or just pretending to be one. There was no arguement. HE said PS focused VS on the first week more than SFR. It is NOT true, it is a fact that it is not true. I have pointed this out. You came into our conversation saying SFR focused PS more as well. Who the hell cares? Noone said they did not. If somebody said it, I’ll correct that person myself because it is not true. Am I biased? Man you have some reading problems.

Jayne.9251:

Well except for this:

DevonCarver.5370:

If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.

Since Anet did not come a up with a fair matchmaking some servers meet others twice and not 3 times. They did not defy what they mean by tie. IE: If SFR places first next week and VS last (highly unlikely) they would have the same number of points and performed against each other exactly the same way just switched places. Now thats a tie. Because this could happen they might have decided to give out rewards based only on points. Even if its true it does not change the fact that just as much VS does not want to be defeated by anyone in this season we do not want to have the same points as others. Man what a terrible people we are.

Jayne.9251:

Indeed. Like the OP

Is the OP representing SFR alone? He presents our community’s will? Is he a leader of SFR community? No, no and no.

Jayne.9251:

Kind of like the first round if the leagues? Ooooh, see what I did there?

Only difference is we didn’t have people saying we were going to “punish” SFR or other emotional silliness over a video game. So SFR is the only one to do that. I think most sensible players would recognize that’s a bit odd, at the least.

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I feel like you are suggesting I am mad for being double teamed the first week, and it is some kind of revenge SFR is taking. PS going for SFR in the first week was a smart move no doubt. The only signs that showed there could have been agreements between VS and PS was that as I have mentioned before, I witnessed PS, and VS blobs standing next to each other not engaging in combat. Now this is some hard thing to pull out if there is no clear agreement known to both sides that they do not attack each other.

As you have said it a video game so there is no punishment. SFR does what it wants to do it is just as simple.

@ Wolf: Don’t worry about it too much, Piken wouldn’t ever agree to this sort of thing anyway. There have been far bigger names who have tried to force/coerce Piken into doing things that the majority don’t want to do. We just ignore it mostly(laugh amongst ourselves too, but who wouldn’t??). If it happens again(next season i guess) then sure i think we could agree to that in the hopes it gets rid of undesirables. Some guys just wanted to make you aware of how far some of yours are willing to push winning, i was just confirming it because Baal was denying anything like that.
At the end of the day it’s just a game we play for fun, we don’t need to get all serious about it.

Edit: @ Baal, you didn’t read what i posted twice now, don’t make it 3 or you will start to look even more stupid. Piken was focusing Viz, nowhere in that statement did i say we were taking more points off them. We fought Viz more but scored more points off you because you’re useless at defending compared to Viz and Viz are far better at fighting open field than you are. You are so points obsessed that you think thats what focus means, now remember this please PIKEN PREFERS OPEN FIELD FIGHTS NOT PPT so when we choose a focus it’s for fighting not for scoring points.

p.s. please please please for the love of the 6 gods do not make me have to repeat this to you any more times. If u isn’t ejukated enuff to understand this massif flor in ur rgewment, ur powurs of reeding and reesoning need 2 b improoved.

Valheru Baal.9456:

Since Anet did not come a up with a fair matchmaking some servers meet others twice and not 3 times.

Yep. Piken faced SFR and Viz three times in the leagues. SFR and Viz never had a match where it was SFR + Viz + another server. So you guys got weeks where you weren’t focused by either us or Viz. Piken did not get one of those weeks, and that’s fine.

Valheru Baal.9456:

They did not defy what they mean by tie

They kind of did. That quote was from Nov. 7.

Valheru Baal.9456:

Jayne.9251:

Indeed. Like the OP

Is the OP representing SFR alone? He presents our community’s will? Is he a leader of SFR community? No, no and no.

See Scarlet’s post.

Valheru Baal.9456:

I feel like you are suggesting I am mad for being double teamed the first week, and it is some kind of revenge SFR is taking.

Lol go read last weeks match thread. That’s exactly what was repeated over and over.

Valheru Baal.9456:

PS going for SFR in the first week was a smart move no doubt. The only signs that showed there could have been agreements between VS and PS was that as I have mentioned before, I witnessed PS, and VS blobs standing next to each other not engaging in combat.

And we have fraps and screen grabs of RS capping the eb keep on one side of the pix, while SFR is bunched up at the doorway killing any Piken coming in to defend, literally 10 feet from each other. But eb is always a big mess, and it is what it is.

There was also a hilarious day on PSBL where RS is at sw garrison steps with four golems, and SFR was at se steps with five golems. Arriving at exactly the same time. Once? Sure coincidence, no worries, it was a great long fight. But then your blobs would both disappear for 40 minutes and then we’d get the exact same thing repeated over again. In fact it happened like this four times in a row that day. At one point it just became funny

Valheru Baal.9456:

Now this is some hard thing to pull out if there is no clear agreement known to both sides that they do not attack each other.

I network between all the guilds as a scout. I do know some better than others, I can tell you that there was no coordination, other than reading the map and responding. I believe you when you say you saw side by side dance movements, but I did not see it happening when I played, and I play some stupid hours.

Edit: I hate my iPad and the stupid typos.

I’m not worried about it at all, I asked for names in PM because it’s too easy to point fingers without backing it up. And while I’m sure you are being honest, I’m also relatively positive that no “prominent member” (giggles) was involved.

And yeah it’s a game and yadda yadda and you can rest assured that I won’t be having sleepless nights over the issue, but isn’t it ironic to have to read this sentence 10 times a day from people who know what guild plays in what server? I mean I have no idea what guilds transferred from or to Piken in the last month, why would I bother researching into that, it’s a game it’s not like we are playing EvE

Saint Scarlet.2906:

The way you worded it is the same way every SFR player words it, like it’s something that affects them alone. I was just making you aware that other servers faced the same problem, forgive me if you are not able to handle this being on the “victim complex” server.

First week, was a bad week for all populated servers due to Meta achievements. WvW guilds, commannders stayed in queue while other players were running around hunting setnries, dolyaks, placing random siege, wasting supplies in SM to repair walls, etc.

This is what I have said, which part of it is worded the way I suggest it only effects SFR?

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Maybe try to read what i said again, i know generally people on SFR don’t understand it but i’ll repeat it in hopes the words might get through this time. We focused on Viz in the 1st week not SFR, our server enjoys fighting open field more not capping towers/keeps so we fight with Viz……have some fun……wipe or wipe them…..then in the time between the fights we go cap towers/keeps. It just so happens that Viz know how to protect thier stuff whereas your server like the majority of others, doesn’t(Piken included).
So…….heres the important part………we get a majority of our points off other servers coz they cannot defend properly but have better open field fights with Viz so we always make sure we can get a good fight and in the downtime cap something to keep everyone moving and interested(quick in and out, job done then for the fun of a fight with a decent opponent).

You make it sound like between two fights against VS blob on the open field, you just came across SFR and capped their towers, keeps like it is the easiest thing in the world. Sorry mate, but saying that 66% was a result of this, while you have maintained your focus battling VS is just flat out lie. I was a part of focusing other servers IE PS, and trust me that requires to spend your time mostly on their half of the map and wipe their zerg not the 3rd servers. And we are talking about 60% now, not to mention 80%. God, you must be spending all your time on AR’s kitten right now.

:P poor choice of words.

If it ever got too serious i would pm you/someone but as long as it stays as just ingame mails/whisps and posts on our forums(not official). Then it’s not really doing harm. As for prominent thats obviously from a semi outside perspective(i’ve got mates on SFR but i’ve never really asked about the higher politics of your server).

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Well that just goes to show that either you haven’t played the game long or don’t really know many people on Piken that have been here for more than 2 months. Piken has had the majority of the top guilds in GW start on and play on our server at one point or another.

First of all I have played this game, and WvW since day 1. Second, I was talking about the fights in this season. I have had good fights against Piken before, but not now. I was quite active the 5th week trust me. This has to be the result of massive transfers that effected all top tier servers.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Oh you caught me using a generalisation that isn’t accurate 100%, quick slap the cuffs on me and lock me up…..
I will say in all the times we’ve faced SFR i have seen a group of 20-30 players(guild group or not)maybe 20 times(this is while running around in a party of a few or as my guild of 20). Now from servers like ER/JS/BB/RS/AR/Viz i see that in the space of a couple of days usually just 1 day. Maybe i’m just very very unlucky and have never been on at the same time as these small group players or maybe it was the wrong border……chance is a wonderful thing.

No need for cuffs, but using words like never and generalising this way lower the content quality of what you want to say. Just like you have said chance is a wonderful thing, I might as well have missed those good fights against Piken that week.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

We have been approached by several members of you community/hierachy to help them beat Viz, yes the trolls have been at it too but also several “well respected” members of your community are too. We have turned down/ignored them all even when they offered to give us 50g a piece(commanders only that is)to help them, not entirely sure how serious that guy was but as he’s not a known troll and is a prominent member of your community i’m not sure. Whatever…… Piken will do as we always do, play the game for fun fights and not worry about wether we have enough ppt for some pixels.

I would like to ask you for those names. If those people are really well respected members of our community everyone has the right to know about it. There is no need to protect identity becuase the result will not be lifechanging for that person for sure. Otherwise you could provide some more info, it sounds like you are just making stuff up.

I could but as i said to Wolf as far as i’m concerned as long as it doesn’t become a problem then it can just stay as a laughable matter. All the people involved have been told a big fat no deal, so unless that changes or they start to harrass members of our community the info stays out of the public eye. Take what we say with a pinch of salt by all means, this is the internet after all.

Jayne.9251:

So you guys got weeks where you weren’t focused by either us or Viz. Piken did not get one of those weeks, and that’s fine.

Either us? We have faced you on the 5 the week remember? We only did not face VS three times though we wanted to.

Jayne.9251:

They kind of did. That quote was from Nov. 7.

What you have quoted only says what happens when it is a tie, but not defines a tie.
It is true it suggest what they could do if that happens, so you can be easily right!

Jayne.9251:

See Scarlet’s post.

Which part do you want me to look up?

Jayne.9251:

Lol go read last weeks match thread. That’s exactly what was repeated over and over.

Well thats something I can 100% believe though it was not me. So please do not treat me like one of them. A healthy sensation of competition is a good thing but being mad about it is another.

Jayne.9251:

And we have fraps and screen grabs of RS capping the eb keep on one side of the pix, while SFR is bunched up at the doorway killing any Piken coming in to defend, literally 10 feet from each other. But eb is always a big mess, and it is what it is.

I was part of tactics like this, but the follow up was always the same. After closing out PS, turn around and wipe RS, and yeah I admit PPT did not matter then. The thing that buffled me between PS, and VS that they did not engage each other even aftwerwards. Oh well, it is possible that SFR did something similar, but since everyone is so greedy for lootbags I doubt it.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

I could but as i said to Wolf as far as i’m concerned as long as it doesn’t become a problem then it can just stay as a laughable matter. All the people involved have been told a big fat no deal, so unless that changes or they start to harrass members of our community the info stays out of the public eye. Take what we say with a pinch of salt by all means, this is the internet after all.

Its a shame though it would be nice to know if these ppl you mentioned are actually real. One thing can assure is that they do not have the power to force their policy on the whole community, mainly because we are against this idea.

What a dialogue of the deaf!

Jayne.9251:

Canadian.

Would you transfer to VS, please ?

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Valheru Baal.9456:

Okay, so lets get some things straight. The first week was bad for every populated server. Thats what I’ve said before and you have repeated me like I would not know about it.

We have been approached by several members of you community/hierachy to help them beat Viz, yes the trolls have been at it too but also several “well respected” members of your community are too. We have turned down/ignored them all even when they offered to give us 50g a piece(commanders only that is)to help them, not entirely sure how serious that guy was but as he’s not a known troll and is a prominent member of your community i’m not sure. Whatever…… Piken will do as we always do, play the game for fun fights and not worry about wether we have enough ppt for some pixels.

I highlight this again. This is a disgusting method, while we never sent or did an alliance with Piken first week. They explained you many times they had to hit your castles because your defenses were easier to beat.

But as usual you don’t want to listen anything, saying Piken is my b***, meh

Valheru Baal.9456:

Saint Scarlet.2906:

I could but as i said to Wolf as far as i’m concerned as long as it doesn’t become a problem then it can just stay as a laughable matter. All the people involved have been told a big fat no deal, so unless that changes or they start to harrass members of our community the info stays out of the public eye. Take what we say with a pinch of salt by all means, this is the internet after all.

Its a shame though it would be nice to know if these ppl you mentioned are actually real. One thing can assure is that they do not have the power to force their policy on the whole community, mainly because we are against this idea.

You can belive what you want, honestly we don’t care

Like the first week we will not team up with SFR nor VS, we will take our chances and try to have fun.

I think i speak for all Piken when i say that i learned my lesson in week 5. It was a chastening that made me realise the error of my ways, and i will now make sure i never interfere again with the righteous wrath of SFR in the quest for the deserved glory they’ve been unfairly denied for so long.

Please SFR, accept these humble apologies, and please don’t make us lose a matchup again. I now realise how sad it made you to lose. I know, because i felt the same after the lesson week 5 rightfully taught me. I was so sad i didn’t even finish the cookies mom brought me that evening, and barely touched my milk before bed. I don’t wish that on anyone else, and you lest of all.

Please please please will you forgive?

Obvious troll thread. Surprinsingly successful.
Oh no wait, put “SFR” and “Vizunah” in the same OP, and the magic is done.

On topic, being a Viz fanboy and devoted scout, I’m still anxious about how we’ll fare without our kids on holidays and our achievement-karma-bandwagon. If we get the same results as first week, I WILL praise the guilds on Grand Cross forum and join the Disciple de Vizu.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Blind bullkitten blabla

All this hate against VS started the day Vizunah Square decided to play WvWvW more than 1 year ago the way servers caring about PPT and score play it today (24/7).

Ironic, right?

This guy can say what he want, but i played a lot since Alpha and i do a lot more than call to arms on forums. If only he could see the other things

Do you really think i don’t know about Vizunah, when i worked for it 10+ hours per day, for 1 year?

I started as a commander. I did internal drama resolves everydays, i was a War Legend Officer, i builded GCK and fight with them, and many many other things, and you think i’m just a politician? It’s not because i put offline mode ingame that i do not play. This is ridiculous.

I don’t know why this guy told you this, but he’s far from reality. How can he knows all the work i do, do you think i scream every minut all the work done?

Seriously, this is terrible to read this, after an exhausting permawork

Troma.3250:

You want to talk about other things, like Vizunah c***sucker insult on pevepe.net ? about what french players told us from the SFR TS? (french monkey, rats, white flags etc) about the permanent provocation even by leads like Wemil ? you want to talk about the anti-french hate by the past? you want to talk about alliance accusations when we just focused you for logical reasons? you want to talk about US guilds calling to help you, while we have no canadians? you want to talk the communication problems you have with other servers too? you want to talk about the collateral damages your troll did?

or maybe you want to talk about the offer you made to Piken recently on their guilds forums, the alliance for week 7 they ALL rejected because they are right people?

and all the crap i forgot

Hm, interesting what these “french players” were doing in opposite server ts? You want talk about vs spies reporting commanders movements? You want talk about vs saboteurs destroying sieges and wasting supplies in keeps (without even removing their “VSS” tag)? You want talk about vs hackers (like that famous thief reported by every server)?
and all the crap i forgot.

thoses french players didn’t like VS and went on SFR, like Option.

And for the rest of things, it’s isolated players, and we forbid/report this everytime we can.

Muan.1029:

Jayne.9251:

Canadian.

Would you transfer to VS, please ?

Mon francais est le pire. J’oublie tous.

Le chat portes une chemise violette?

Time to go find my Petit Nicolas…. Hrm, wasn’t it Petit Nicolas that coined the term “enfants terribles”?

thank you for answer, i was a bit overreacting. (it was also unpleasant for me to hear that some of our sfr officers make proposal to piken to do doubleteam against vs). Hope next match will be free of any of dirty stuff, or any collaboration.

no prob misha

@Jayne: Je t’aime

Careful Troma, they’ll accuse me of being your kitten (yes I typed the word kitten). And if that happens, I require fancy dinners, nice jewelery and a chalet in the countryside.

Hahaha, excellent

Ok see ya ingame tonight everyone

Troma.3250:

But as usual you don’t want to listen anything, saying Piken is my b***, meh

First of all, the things you have quoted from before had nothing to do with each other. Second, I have never said anything like this. either.3417, Demannu.2805 said similar things but not me. I have been accused before of saying things I did not, it seems I better start getting used to it.