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Given the way silver league is shaping up, I would love to see a dev response to how the league will be decided in the event of a tie.
WvW Coordinator
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If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.
The same way ANet solves everything – RNG
One server’s score will be nerfed the other buffed.
The same way ANet solves everything – RNG
As funny as this is… I can’t say I’d be very surprised.
I would imagine they’d use server rating at final count to decide a tie.
or they leave it a tie, is there a need for a winner?
or they leave it a tie, is there a need for a winner?
Since there is a reward for winning, yes there does need to be a winner. Unless they give the reward to both servers, which is an option.
Could sum up the points of the matches.
or they leave it a tie, is there a need for a winner?
Since there is a reward for winning, yes there does need to be a winner. Unless they give the reward to both servers, which is an option.
I’d bet every gold I have on this. There is no way their going to institute a tie-breaker, the amount of anger and forum rage that would come would be unimaginable.
They’ll just give the rewards to both servers.
My bet is it will be 1st(a), 1st(b), and 3rd place.
IE: Tie for first, with both getting the rewards. To try and tie it to overall scores (as has been suggested before) would just encourage noobish play and bad behavior.
They need to tell us what the tie breaker will be. I am pretty sure they didn’t think there would be a tie, but now that it looks like SBI will most likely beat FA in week 7, leaving the silver league with a tie for 1st.
They need to tell us, so we know how to better position ourselves for that, if it happens.
They need to tell us what the tie breaker will be. I am pretty sure they didn’t think there would be a tie, but now that it looks like SBI will most likely beat FA in week 7, leaving the silver league with a tie for 1st.
They need to tell us, so we know how to better position ourselves for that, if it happens.
That’s the idea here, we can posture till the cows come home but I’m hoping a dev can just give us a straight answer.
Lets all not forget how fast SBI fair weathers flee though as we saw pre-league. The organized guilds will need to push kitten SBI over the weekend to maintain it close to keep fair weathers active.
Lets all not forget how fast SBI fair weathers flee though as we saw pre-league. The organized guilds will need to push kitten SBI over the weekend to maintain it close to keep fair weathers active.
This is very true, but we’ve also gotten some fresh transfers who hopefully won’t run at the first sign of a challenge.
Lets all not forget how fast SBI fair weathers flee though as we saw pre-league. The organized guilds will need to push kitten SBI over the weekend to maintain it close to keep fair weathers active.
This is very true, but we’ve also gotten some fresh transfers who hopefully won’t run at the first sign of a challenge.
Just some friendly advice. You’re SEA time slot will be in trouble if all they do is pvd. I’ve honestly seen nothing but poor showing in fighting terms from this week— now there could be many factors to this as well such as build testing, alts, k train mode,etc. Just want to make you guys aware. Don’t know if it’s cause easy week or what.
Lets all not forget how fast SBI fair weathers flee though as we saw pre-league. The organized guilds will need to push kitten SBI over the weekend to maintain it close to keep fair weathers active.
This is very true, but we’ve also gotten some fresh transfers who hopefully won’t run at the first sign of a challenge.
Just some friendly advice. You’re SEA time slot will be in trouble if all they do is pvd. I’ve honestly seen nothing but poor showing in fighting terms from this week— now there could be many factors to this as well such as build testing, alts, k train mode,etc. Just want to make you guys aware. Don’t know if it’s cause easy week or what.
Meh, I don’t play that time slot so I wouldn’t know, but many of us are finding other things to do out of sheer boredom the last few weeks. Thanks for the advice just the same.
Lets all not forget how fast SBI fair weathers flee though as we saw pre-league. The organized guilds will need to push kitten SBI over the weekend to maintain it close to keep fair weathers active.
This is very true, but we’ve also gotten some fresh transfers who hopefully won’t run at the first sign of a challenge.
Just some friendly advice. You’re SEA time slot will be in trouble if all they do is pvd. I’ve honestly seen nothing but poor showing in fighting terms from this week— now there could be many factors to this as well such as build testing, alts, k train mode,etc. Just want to make you guys aware. Don’t know if it’s cause easy week or what.
Well, in the match up with FA and DB, our SEA is fine. DB has a nice SEA presence, and when they log off, there are some PvD time. The problem comes in the unemployment time, from 1pm to 8pm. That is where FA was able to pull away from us in the first match up (on Tuesday, afternoon).
But, if we manage to hold our own during the night, and out tick them during overnight hours, we will be ok.
Remember, they only beat YB by 80k, and I believe most of that came during the week. We are doing much better against YB.
1st place: 1 yellow, 2 greens, 12 dust
Does it matter?
Andrew,
Many YB walked away this week and didn’t last week. The differential means nothing……
1st place: 1 yellow, 2 greens, 12 dust
Does it matter?
There is going to be some form of cosmetic reward indicating what place someone ended up during the season, (I’ve heard either a mini or a finisher) so it’s not all just useless salvage-kit fodder. No it doesn’t really matter, but call it intellectual curiosity about whether this possibility is even on Anet’s radar.
1st place: 1 yellow, 2 greens, 12 dust
Does it matter?
There is going to be some form of cosmetic reward indicating what place someone ended up during the season, (I’ve heard either a mini or a finisher) so it’s not all just useless salvage-kit fodder. No it doesn’t really matter, but call it intellectual curiosity about whether this possibility is even on Anet’s radar.
Finisher, A mini dolyak is within the chest that is granted to everyone who finished the meta.
1st, 2nd and 3rd place are probably locked with no ties. It doesn’t much matter past that. I am pretty sure this will be the correct power rankings despite the scoring in the end:
FA
SBI
YB
BP
DB
EB
CD
NS
IoJ
The last two could flip/flop.
1st, 2nd and 3rd place are probably locked with no ties. It doesn’t much matter past that. I am pretty sure this will be the correct power rankings despite the scoring in the end:
FA
SBI
YB
BP
DB
EB
CD
NS
IoJThe last two could flip/flop.
For those of you keeping score at home, if SBI beats FA during week 7, the points will be tied.
I would say nsp will beat ioj again but that’s probably not the case, they took the lead last minute after a demoralizing week for us as a server. The simple fact it took them so long to get the lead over us shows we still got fight in us.
I could see them doing a countback, whomever won the match prior between the two wins.
Remember, they only beat YB by 80k, and I believe most of that came during the week. We are doing much better against YB.
According to Mos, FA beat YB by 97k. YB is not trying this week. Also, the 3rd server (IoJ) is much, much smaller than the 3rd server last week (CD). CD has off-hour presence, IoJ doesn’t. Completely different match dynamic.
I know you guys have received a whole heap of transfers over the past 2 weeks so you guys will surely be stronger. We’ll just have to see whether FA can keep up, since they won’t have the pve’ers to back them up next time.
I know you guys have received a whole heap of transfers over the past 2 weeks so you guys will surely be stronger. We’ll just have to see whether FA can keep up, since they won’t have the pve’ers to back them up next time.
I’m not sure I would call it a “heap” of transfers. It’s been 3 guilds of about 25-30 each.
For those of you keeping score at home, if SBI beats FA during week 7, the points will be tied.
That would be a pretty big upset. FA beat SBI pretty handily (almost 20 percent more points) the last time they met. Things do change and I suppose anything is possible… like SBI or FA losing a match before week 7 which is REALLY unlikely.
I know you guys have received a whole heap of transfers over the past 2 weeks so you guys will surely be stronger. We’ll just have to see whether FA can keep up, since they won’t have the pve’ers to back them up next time.
I’m not sure I would call it a “heap” of transfers. It’s been 3 guilds of about 25-30 each.
Do you guys make wagon noises when you run around the map?
I know you guys have received a whole heap of transfers over the past 2 weeks so you guys will surely be stronger. We’ll just have to see whether FA can keep up, since they won’t have the pve’ers to back them up next time.
I’m not sure I would call it a “heap” of transfers. It’s been 3 guilds of about 25-30 each.
Do you guys make wagon noises when you run around the map?
They do, And then when you slam into then it sounds like a bunch of wood shattering and flying away from your zerg thats already outmanned 3:1 and you still win.
(But seriously, they have a few decent guilds at least that provide a challenge. Most though are just band wagoners looking to pvdoor to victory sadly)
Andrew,
Many YB walked away this week and didn’t last week. The differential means nothing……
Did YB walk away the whole weekend? Cause you were more competitive with FA during the weekend?
Do you guys make wagon noises when you run around the map?
They do, And then when you slam into then it sounds like a bunch of wood shattering and flying away from your zerg thats already outmanned 3:1 and you still win.
(But seriously, they have a few decent guilds at least that provide a challenge. Most though are just band wagoners looking to pvdoor to victory sadly)
Thanks for keeping it on topic.
For those of you keeping score at home, if SBI beats FA during week 7, the points will be tied.
That would be a pretty big upset. FA beat SBI pretty handily (almost 20 percent more points) the last time they met. Things do change and I suppose anything is possible… like SBI or FA losing a match before week 7 which is REALLY unlikely.
For more offtopic nonsense: point differentials in WvW mean next to nothing. Once the outcome of the match has been decided the vast majority of losing servers tend to lose the motivation for play for ppt, or play at all. This is true for pretty much every matchup. The only thing the differential really indicates is how early in the week the losing side gave up.
I can almost guarantee you that they will reward both servers the same in the event of a tie. There’s really no other way to do it at this point, given the fact that it wasn’t spelled out ahead of time.
If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.
It would be better if you rewarded people by their own effort. You have almost zero control about how your server is doing in the league even if you play 24/7 in WvW.
I can almost guarantee you that they will reward both servers the same in the event of a tie. There’s really no other way to do it at this point, given the fact that it wasn’t spelled out ahead of time.
You are a god-like prophet. No more than 6 minutes and it was confirmed by Devon!
The problem comes in the unemployment time, from 1pm to 8pm. That is where FA was able to pull away from us in the first match up (on Tuesday, afternoon).
This exactly. If SBI can find a way to limit FA’s PPT during European and middle of the Atlantic Ocean time, we will be competitive. If not, FA takes it.
If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.
It would be better if you rewarded people by their own effort. You have almost zero control about how your server is doing in the league even if you play 24/7 in WvW.
And how exactly would you measure that?
The achievements keep tracking progress even if they are completed, so it would be easy to calculate rewards by your progress towards critical WvW objectives such as towers flipped, dolyaks killed, camps captured,… Only challange would be to to develop a formula which make the rewards scale properly
If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.
If the first two servers tie (let’s say FA and SBI) does that mean the 3rd place server will get the 2nd place rewards?
The achievements keep tracking progress even if they are completed, so it would be easy to calculate rewards by your progress towards critical WvW objectives.
Rewarding people is nice and all ‘cause we have to pay the bills but let’s not get too Big Brother on how we’re doing. The ultimate reward is the fun of WvW (and it is fun).
If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.
If the first two servers tie (let’s say FA and SBI) does that mean the 3rd place server will get the 2nd place rewards?
yes, if FA and SBI are tied at the end they are both labeled as being “1st” so they both get 1st place rewards, then the next server or server’s are labeled as 2nd, etc.
If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.
Devon, since you used 8th place as a example, would this be the same for all placements? If say 2 server tied for 1st, would they both receive the 1st place rewards?
If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.
Devon, since you used 8th place as a example, would this be the same for all placements? If say 2 server tied for 1st, would they both receive the 1st place rewards?
Seeing as I am a god-like prophet, I will answer this. Yes, my son.
So hypothetically FA and SBI could tie, both get top silver rewards, one moves into gold league for second season and the other might be left in silver league to get top rewards again?
So hypothetically FA and SBI could tie, both get top silver rewards, one moves into gold league for second season and the other might be left in silver league to get top rewards again?
Keep in mind that Season 2 will not happen until sometime in 2014. Much will change between the end of Season 1 and then.
Good point…..15
Andrew,
Many YB walked away this week and didn’t last week. The differential means nothing……Did YB walk away the whole weekend? Cause you were more competitive with FA during the weekend?
Many did as early as saturday or at least changed their strategy to not worry about ppt. I know our guild did and we have a pretty decent sized presence in wvw….
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