Guild Wars 2

Cant believe this crappy event with all its bugs, exploits and side effects is still running.

You don’t seem to understand why people are so salty in here.

It’s not because of the event. It’s because its forced and there is nothing you can do about it. You can not go to WvW and not be doing it because every border, every match up, everything has it going on.

This would be totally different and probally appreciated if it was done in EotM only. Some funny whacking around when you feel like it. Golem brawls etc.

But now if you wanna do normal WvW, was it roaming, defending, invading, GvG, BvB or what ever, you are gonna have hard time because there is Golems every where, theres people using glitches to their advantage etc.

They could have done the same in sPvP so that everyone is fighting with sticks from SAB, and you couldn’t fight normally at all, even if you wanted.

It’s not the event, it’s how we are forced into it. Thats why so many regular WvW players don’t play WvW this week because they can not do what they like to do in this game for a whole week, and THAT is the problem.

I managed to stay ingame for almost an hour in wvw yesterday.

All towers, keeps, garris, etc are paper- there isn’t any point in upgrading.

It’s just a karma train – golem vs golem is a non-event if you throw a couple siege disablers around.

It’s boring. There is zero reason to defend anything- gates melt in 5 seconds.

Sure, it’s fun- if your idea of fun is mindlessly spamming 1 (oh wait, guards and warriors are used to that) without even bothering to blast anything or shouts, attacking doors and accumulating karma and wvw points.

I prefer my games to require some thought processes and a wide variety of skills and counters…

I´m one of those weirdos that loves to defend and scout. Imagine how much fun this event is for me.

Notsoperky.4291:

I managed to stay ingame for almost an hour in wvw yesterday.

All towers, keeps, garris, etc are paper- there isn’t any point in upgrading.

It’s just a karma train – golem vs golem is a non-event if you throw a couple siege disablers around.

It’s boring. There is zero reason to defend anything- gates melt in 5 seconds.

Sure, it’s fun- if your idea of fun is mindlessly spamming 1 (oh wait, guards and warriors are used to that) without even bothering to blast anything or shouts, attacking doors and accumulating karma and wvw points.

I prefer my games to require some thought processes and a wide variety of skills and counters…

As a Warrior main I feel a bit offended. Im not an inanimate object!

And FYI, if you press #1 as a warrior with your low cooldowns and 5s weapon swap, you are doing something wrong or you are doing PvE with axe.

Drizzy.1268:

Cant believe this crappy event with all its bugs, exploits and side effects is still running.

They should get back to work soon…then they read some of the posts and give us an official statement about not stopping the event because they want to farm alongside all those other PvE kittentards.

Just kidding! They won’t read any post in the WvW section of this forum. :’D

DaVid Darksoul.4985:

I’m having fun running with a dew friends fighting and flipping. Would much rather deal with a few golems then overwhelming blobs attacking.

So you are saying that this game is much more fun with fewer people playing? You went from overwhelming blob attacks to a few golems. I guess that shows you just how many people don’t agree with you, and your enjoyment of this event.

It’s funny to me how fast they removed the grenade trait or the guardian AoE cap bug from the game BUT allow this to happen. I guess it because it was the week end and I really hope they fix it soon.

Excluding the exploits, I thought it was lots of fun for the weekend, but I agree that a week is just too long. Nobody bothers defending or upgrading because within 10 mins, a group of 5 – 10 golems just rolls in and stomps the Lord into the ground. Golem vs Golem fights also aren’t as fun as one might have thought; there’s little in the way of strategy or tactics. It just comes down to “who has more golems?”

That said, I made quite a bit of money on the first day converting my stockpile of Badges to Golem blueprints and upgrading them to Omegas for sale.

It is really funny that we’re 16 pages in to this thread, not including the other threads that the mods didn’t merge in to this one yet – yet we still have no reply at all..

I was solo roaming a couple days ago and found another solo roamer. Much to my surprise, the other solo roamer was in an omega that hit insanely hard and moved faster than me so I could not even get away.

As a person who solo roams very frequently and rarely loses a 1v1 fight, I find this event to have completely destroyed my game mode. I don’t like PvE, its only purpose is for farming gold to me. I don’t like PvP because I don’t have any build diversity and all of the ascended gear I worked so hard to get does nothing there. Amongst other reasons I don’t care for PvP..

WvW, however, is a much different game mode than PvE and PvP. I get to wear my PvE gear and fight people in a large area. I can ninja objectives and wait for the fights to come to me or I can go pursue them. It is a very happy medium for me, until this idiotic event.

Now I’m taking a break from the game to do other things since the game is no longer fun for me. I’m also rethinking if I will buy this expansion since Anet clearly does not listen or care what WvW players want. I imagine these new maps are just going to be another EOTM that almost all true WvW players hate. The only thing Anet needs to know about EOTM is that people do it for the levels and money, not sure how many people enjoy leveling or farming, but I know I don’t.

[Suggestion]

What do you think about using this golem rush buff as an event, happening x given times a day, like a world boss event, lasting for 15-30minutes. This way ppl can prepare for defenses/rushes.

And there should be some kind of trap which only triggers on golems.

Zaxares.5419:

Excluding the exploits, I thought it was lots of fun for the weekend, but I agree that a week is just too long. Nobody bothers defending or upgrading because within 10 mins, a group of 5 – 10 golems just rolls in and stomps the Lord into the ground. Golem vs Golem fights also aren’t as fun as one might have thought; there’s little in the way of strategy or tactics. It just comes down to “who has more golems?”

That said, I made quite a bit of money on the first day converting my stockpile of Badges to Golem blueprints and upgrading them to Omegas for sale.

10 minutes? with 10 golems it should only take 10 seconds to stomp a gate.

sMihaly.1492:

[Suggestion]

What do you think about using this golem rush buff as an event, happening x given times a day, like a world boss event, lasting for 15-30minutes. This way ppl can prepare for defenses/rushes.

And there should be some kind of trap which only triggers on golems.

No….just no.
All that does is hand the victory to the biggest server. There is nothing you can do to stop 50+ super charged omega golems that can be spike built in front of a keep.

It was fun for a day but now it’s just a pain… even although my server is able to maintain two waypoints most of the time. I hope this is not an omen of what WvW will become with the HoT release…

DaVid Darksoul.4985:

Would much rather deal with a few golems then overwhelming blobs attacking.

HAHAHAHAHA, no idea which server you from. Like the usual 20vs 50 isnt enough, wait till you see 20 vs 40+20 omega golem. Show me your “fun”.

pathika.3029:

It was fun for a day but now it’s just a pain… even although my server is able to maintain two waypoints most of the time. I hope this is not an omen of what WvW will become with the HoT release…

Not much coming in regards to HoT and WvW. Just isn’t there outside a new map. Everything since has been a bust or for easy access to levels, WvW rank, and loot.

Orbs – bust.
Jump puzzles – bust.
EoTM sandbox – bust.
Ruins – bust.
Golem Rush – bust.

Still no player portal for weekly and monthly stats by player, guild, class with regards to WvW. Searchable. WvW rank structure is a never ending ladder, no meaning. No dedicated finishers. No points or rewards for defending. 24×7 balance issues due to coverage. Top 3 servers think they are pros while bottom 3 think they are trash – mid pack can’t move. Server transfers.

List goes on and on that indicate they are not 100% sure what to do with the format of play let alone if they want to invest resources to do something. That is why we got golem rush. Quick and easy with little effort.

After three days, it’s just reached the point of being dull and boring. The only way to get fights is to camp out in a keep on EBG and then you get messages from leaders on opposing servers about how you’re messing up their karma train and they just want to level some new characters.

Here’s the kicker: When I asked if a map I got on was a karma train map, I was told “Yes, we are ktraining. If you want fights, go to EOTM.” Trust me, I laughed.

Even without the bugs with golems, it’s just not interesting gameplay. No one wants to get whispers all night from people crying that you’re ruining a karma train when all you want to do is fight more than doors. Fight guilds don’t really want to raid because everyone still runs away from you and even ppt guilds are complaining because there’s no point to upgrading/defending. It’s just bad.

People just need to not buy the expansion until Anet decides to start listening and caring about WvW player base.

Aerial Melodies.4938:

No one wants to get whispers all night from people crying that you’re ruining a karma train when all you want to do is fight more than doors.

You can only get rekt by 16k golem-buff-exploit meteors so many times before you start getting irritated at the commanders searching for fights amidst all this inanity; if you find yourself anywhere near a red circle you’re likely to go down instantly. It’s time to log on an uplevel, suit up in a golem, 11111 gates, and stand in green circles (and put on Netflix because holy kitten you’re going to be bored). I’m sooo over the commanders that want to pretend that WvW wasn’t turned upside down for the week. The pirate meta is even worse now, and it’s not fun to stare at people for 20 minutes only to see which side is stupid enough to step into a red circle first.

The % of people that do like this should dwindle soon.

The ones not complaining are doing the most boring k-train or power leveling. I was doing it for a very long time and I can tell you, the fights were boring, costly (maybe ANET like this?) and very, very grindy. I got my xp because that carrot on a stick was there and hard to resist but I would quit without permanently if this remained.

I believe gamers want a dialog with the developers and this just shows a disconnect there. I usually picture some person with an MBA trying to steer things in a way to make more money. Maybe that secret for making money is with working closer with players. Maybe it seems like I’m over thinking this but I don’t think so. Gamers desperately want a world pvp game where the company loves the game and invests in the world pvp over time to keep it fresh. Maybe I will have to go back to Warhammer. jk

I actually want the event to end early because I am not convinced that the process to change everything back will go smoothly on the first attempt. I believe that the golem dup bug and buff bug will remain and the team will need time to resolve it.

If they change everything back on Friday, any bugs resulting from that change will last through next weekend, if not longer. So the issues from this event may linger longer than one week.

DaVid Darksoul.4985:

Lots of crying about this week and not understanding why. I’m having fun running with a dew friends fighting and flipping. Would much rather deal with a few golems then overwhelming blobs attacking. Unfortunately just as in normal weeks there are those that use questionable tactics such as duplication and buff sharing on non-golems. Peple need to just chill and have fun, taking things seriously when they’re not meant to be deprives you of the fun it was meant to be.

I’m having lots of fun too!

This week is fun week. Relax, build golems, try crazy stuff, get disablers and nuke enemy golem zergs.

WOOHOO!!

Josh XT.6053:

People just need to not buy the expansion until Anet decides to start listening and caring about WvW player base.

Are you a troll because if you are, you Fail. If not: see this:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Who-plays-WvW-only/page/3#post5300120

It’s crap and most of the borders are empty coz there’s no point playing when all your stuff gets flippedin ten minutes.

If this was just a weekend event yeah ok that wou;d be cool but all week is total kitten .

Josh XT.6053:

People just need to not buy the expansion until Anet decides to start listening and caring about WvW player base.

I already bought the expansion – but I agree that WvW needs to be fixed and we are being ignored compared to PvP or PvE.

Sungtaro.6493:

I believe that the golem dup bug and buff bug will remain and the team will need time to resolve it.

Buff bug wont matter if there is no buff. Dupe is worse off though.

DarkSyze.8627:

Josh XT.6053:

People just need to not buy the expansion until Anet decides to start listening and caring about WvW player base.

Are you a troll because if you are, you Fail. If not: see this:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Who-plays-WvW-only/page/3#post5300120

What exactly should I be looking at here? Yet another forum mod merges threads in to this post but still no replies lol..

Josh XT.6053:

People just need to not buy the expansion until Anet decides to start listening and caring about WvW player base .

Dawdler.8521:

Sungtaro.6493:

I believe that the golem dup bug and buff bug will remain and the team will need time to resolve it.

Buff bug wont matter if there is no buff. Dupe is worse off though.

Yeah, I am expressing a lack of faith in their version control procedure which is probably unwarranted. If the change is not clean, the buff will still exist.

Sungtaro.6493:

Dawdler.8521:

Sungtaro.6493:

I believe that the golem dup bug and buff bug will remain and the team will need time to resolve it.

Buff bug wont matter if there is no buff. Dupe is worse off though.

Yeah, I am expressing a lack of faith in their version control procedure which is probably unwarranted. If the change is not clean, the buff will still exist.

With the historical way Anet implements things with little to no “quality” QA, patches that break things as much as they fix (if not more), and Anet’s slowness in addressing even low hanging fruit bugs and minimal communication with the community….. NO, I think your lack of faith in Anet’s version control procedure IS VERY WARRANTED!

warranted dear … sorry my inner editor was having conniptions.

Jayne.9251:

warranted dear … sorry my inner editor was having conniptions.

Thanks, Jayne! I fixed it.

And, guys, remember:

Speak with your Wallets! Speak with your Wallets! Anet might just understand wallet-talk.

Krypto.2069:

Jayne.9251:

warranted dear … sorry my inner editor was having conniptions.

Thanks, Jayne! I fixed it.

And, guys, remember:

Speak with your Wallets! Speak with your Wallets! Anet might just understand wallet-talk.

I just tried it.Said Hello to my wallet..But i didn’t got any response,what am i doing wrong ?

Caedmon.6798:

Krypto.2069:

Jayne.9251:

warranted dear … sorry my inner editor was having conniptions.

Thanks, Jayne! I fixed it.

And, guys, remember:

Speak with your Wallets! Speak with your Wallets! Anet might just understand wallet-talk.

I just tried it.Said Hello to my wallet..But i didn’t got any response,what am i doing wrong ?

Hahaha!

You’re doing absolutely nothing wrong… your wallet is CLOSED, so it’s working perfectly, just like mine!

Krypto.2069:

Caedmon.6798:

Krypto.2069:

Jayne.9251:

warranted dear … sorry my inner editor was having conniptions.

Thanks, Jayne! I fixed it.

And, guys, remember:

Speak with your Wallets! Speak with your Wallets! Anet might just understand wallet-talk.

I just tried it.Said Hello to my wallet..But i didn’t got any response,what am i doing wrong ?

Hahaha!

You’re doing absolutely nothing wrong… your wallet is CLOSED, so it’s working perfectly, just like mine!

gavyne.6847:

Sentai.6850:

it doesn’t make up for the last 2 days(I have the last 2 days recorded if you need proof)

Sure, please do show which guild exploited it. I’m not talking about random havoc group or random person_01 in a zerg. I’m talking about a guild running a guild zerg where majority of their players had the supercharged buffs on them. While at the same time, none of the other blobs did, not even a blob from TC’s side.

That said guild ruined the fun we were trying to have tonight. Again, this failed event should’ve been turned off 2 days ago.

Considering you can get the buff from killing an Omega it’s not really exploiting if it happened by accident. I’m sure lots of people didn’t even realize they had it.

Saying a guild ruined the fun.. more like anet ruined your fun, they implemented this event and gave the bug.

xev.9476:

Aerial Melodies.4938:

No one wants to get whispers all night from people crying that you’re ruining a karma train when all you want to do is fight more than doors.

You can only get rekt by 16k golem-buff-exploit meteors so many times before you start getting irritated at the commanders searching for fights amidst all this inanity; if you find yourself anywhere near a red circle you’re likely to go down instantly. It’s time to log on an uplevel, suit up in a golem, 11111 gates, and stand in green circles (and put on Netflix because holy kitten you’re going to be bored). I’m sooo over the commanders that want to pretend that WvW wasn’t turned upside down for the week. The pirate meta is even worse now, and it’s not fun to stare at people for 20 minutes only to see which side is stupid enough to step into a red circle first.

If you don’t want fights in a PvP instance, you can always exit the map and go to this magical place called PvE and fight NPCs. People were and are wrecking golem trains without the exploit (it’s just too easy because it’s a bunch of uplevel pugs) so to act like people who want to play WvW as intended as somehow in the wrong because it’s EOTM now is silly. If you hate fighting and want to karma train, go to EOTM, silverwastes, world boss runs… anywhere but a PvP instance. Please.

The karma trains are full of people with the exploit whether intentional or not as well, so you really can’t blame it on “oh you are killing us and that makes us sad since you won’t ktrain also!” I’m looking at you, thief who walked around one shotting people at full health from light to heavy classes.

Crapgame.6519:

There are many who do like it though – I’m sure arena net will have statistics to represent what they want at the end of the day. Some of the /map chat I’m reading tonight is that they are jazzed – more WvW ranks which is 10x easier and faster with loot.

Champ farming / karma train if that is your thing. I gave it another hour – not my cup of tea.

Yeah I’m sure PvErs and Ktrainers love this crap- but they could already do it in EoTM. Why take WvW and turn it into another game mode, that WvW players don’t want? And what is even the purpose of WvW ranks in this game if people just farm them by Ktraining like zombies, without actually fighting anyone? There’s no value to ranks if it’s all just Golem Rushing or EoTM.

In my opinion and also in opinion of several other people from my guild and mapchat in general this event turned whole wvw into one big karma train. The “great success” of EotM was exported to other borderlands as well. Deffending doesn’t matter at all. I wont mention bugs here because they seemed more funny to me than distracting but one thing i noticed is that less and less players seem to play in current matchup. All this endless karma train stuff was funny at first maybe but then it somehow becomes boring and monotone. WvW shall be about competitivnes, and I think that’s what most of people seem to expect of it, not for it to be one big karma wheel. The result is that during peak hours i see many people joining karma train but some of hardcore players that remain after “casuals” leave seem to be missing. It might be the heat too… but I think they just got upset/bored or w/e. Our oposing servers also seem to make no effords to resist us when we, with dwindling numbers do late golem rush. We go through deserted borderlands and just cap stuff with few golems, everything paper, upgrades don’t matter at all. Where used to be night blobs seem to be deserted bl’s. When during late hours like 5 to 10 members representing my guild were active, now it’s 3-4. As I said… maybe it’s heat… but more likely it’s because of enviroment this event created. And for the future, I think anet should not go in this direction with wvw. Instead encourage fighting and deffending, even in EotM…

Well it turned into one big k-train because people refuse to defend and upgrade. You can stop the train if you try but so many have just giving up even trying since the event started. Now for outnumbered servers well not much to do to stop it so they have it the worst out of everyone.

We had wp in our keep and a fully upgraded side in EBG yesterday because we didn’t give up just because of some event. Some are still out running around in golems but most have gotten over that and went back to actually trying to WvW.

This has to be the largest uproar in history about any event Anet has done.. Yet they don’t care lol. Maybe if we were unable to buy gems or didn’t like the details of an outfit we would get a reply lol..

I’m on strike from buying gems and refuse to buy the expansion until they start caring about WvW players and what we want for this game mode, I suggest everyone does the same.

Here’s the thing.

A golem is a powerful tool. It normally has a certain set of restrictions on it to balance it out, where it has to be used intelligently and players have to coordinate to support it.

This event removes the weaknesses of the golem, it removes the need to coordinate and on top of that it makes them even better. If they had just been free to build or just super fast or just double damage, it might have been an okay novelty.

I am glad they are trying to innovate but this was just so ill advised on its face, everyone who actually plays WvW regularly called it.

Nothing good has or will come from this event.
It should be ended promptly.

Aerial Melodies.4938:

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Look, fighting in golems is boring and chasing ktrains around the map trying to get them to fight is boring, and if you happen to come across a group that actually wants to fight they all have the stupid exploit buff which means both sides just stare at each other and play Pirates of the Caribbean. I only WvW and even then the only thing that keeps me playing are good fights, but I think it’s pointless to stomp your feet and insist that WvW isn’t garbage this week and try it to play it as if nothing is wrong. ANet is obviously at fault for unleashing this nonsense, but at least with an uplevel ktrain I get something out of this stupid week – something that doesn’t involve me chasing another group of ktrainers around the map for 30 minutes to kill maybe 5 of their slowest members.

Notsoperky.4291:

Big thanks to Anet for the event- we seem to have gained quite a few players in the last couple of days.

What? You thought I was talking about GW2? LOL. Guild Wars (the real game, not this similarly named ‘sequel’) is quite busy this weekend:-)

^clever people.

i migh hop in there in a few minutes to.

Gw2 is a bad game with pretty graphics, Skrits love it.

LunacyPolish.4602:

I am glad they are trying to innovate but this was just so ill advised on its face, everyone who actually plays WvW regularly called it.

Innovate? Innovate what?!

Its a complete brainfart and their silence about it is a slap in the face and two middle fingers from Anet aimed at every WvWer. It just makes me sad that they show such disrespect to their players, especially when many people actually like them. In every other area Anet are the most involved devs I know when it comes to AAA titles.

But I guess the true test comes tomorrow, patch tuesday. Will the golem event end? Will they at least fix the exploits? Will they say something?

Dawdler.8521:

LunacyPolish.4602:

I am glad they are trying to innovate but this was just so ill advised on its face, everyone who actually plays WvW regularly called it.

Innovate? Innovate what?!

Its a complete brainfart and their silence about it is a slap in the face and two middle fingers from Anet aimed at every WvWer. It just makes me sad that they show such disrespect to their players, especially when many people actually like them. In every other area Anet are the most involved devs I know when it comes to AAA titles.

But I guess the true test comes tomorrow, patch tuesday. Will the golem event end? Will they at least fix the exploits? Will they say something?

They clearly intended for this to be fun or interesting even if their logic is not apparent. The fact it’s not particularly enjoyable is beside the point as far as the spirit of the thing goes. Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

I agree with you the insularity is the cause of this being so poorly executed.

The thng I been enjoying about it, at least on the server i am on I guess, is the extra battles. I moved up like 3 ranks in a hour, and I look forward to Friday and my new ranks will bring me. I think i gone up about 10 ranks so far during the event time, which been faster then normal. It might not be a fav event of all, but I found it to be worth while.

TJgalon.5012:

The thng I been enjoying about it, at least on the server i am on I guess, is the extra battles. I moved up like 3 ranks in a hour, and I look forward to Friday and my new ranks will bring me. I think i gone up about 10 ranks so far during the event time, which been faster then normal. It might not be a fav event of all, but I found it to be worth while.

Said all the skritts.

Edit: In a sense of more constructive criticism, I want to say that yes, this event MIGHT help get a few new people interested in WvW who did not play before. They see “special event? Oo let me go try that out!”, they enter WvW to be greeted by hoards of golems, hop in one and run around faster than non-golem players, hitting millions of damage. They join silly-looking Golem Ktrains, gain lots of experience, ranks, and loot and think “wow this is great!”.

The only problem here is that you’re not really getting new players interested in WvW. You’re bring new players into WvW to get them interested in EoTM, while at the same time kicking all the regular WvWers out of WvW (or atleast forcing them to ktrain all week instead of real WvW play). So when the week ends, maybe these new players will be excited like this guy here, to use his new ranks and do more WvW- but the thing is, WvW is NOT all about ktrains. It’s not fast, easy loot. And when most of these newer players discover that, they’re going to get bored and just go to EoTM instead.

I think the real way to get new players genuinely interested in WvW is to promote guilds. When you’re in WvW following a pugmander in a pugzerg, you don’t really know or understand what’s going on. You’re just following a blob, pewpewing at stuff and it’s boring. That’s how I used to feel. Until I found a guild. Because WvW is about fights, and it’s about community. WvW becomes REALLY fun when you have a good guild to play it with- suddenly you’re part of a team and a community, they help teach you how things work, and you all work together to win fights and capture things and defend things and it feels good. You get in TS and play music and joke and laugh together while you do your raids, and it’s fun.

Mindlessly following a blob in a golem pewpewing at doors is NOT fun, and it’s not a long-term solution to get and keep people interested in WvW.