Guild Wars 2

I had this thought for long time ever since Guild Wars. Now with the world link concept it is a good time to propose my idea for WvW, or GvG.

Now we have Guild Wars2 and WvW but still nowhere we can find what’s fit in the title of “Guild Wars”. There is no wars between Guild although WvW is the closest fit to this concept.

People like to play WvW mainly because they want to fight the opponent of Human player instead of A.I. player. Also the convenience to be able to join in anytime they want, be casual or be serious.

What I really want to see is the GvG instead of the WvW. We can leave the map as it is and name the BL map as red,blue,green while keep the EB not changed. Every week, each guild will be assigned one of the color and fight like the WvW. Each guild will have WvW (GvG) rank so that it put them into different tiers. The rank of each guild is determined by the Kill and Capture of members and the overall Score (maybe). Each tier can have several guilds assigned with fixed color for each week. Pugs can join randomly to any tier and locked for that week.

It has all the WvW feature and there are some extra benefits.

1. Guild will be more active. To be honest, the guild concept right now has nothing very special other than a name tag.

2. Lions Arch will have more recruit going on therefore be more active as before the “mega server”. I remember we used to call out help for our World when our keep or SMC is in danger.

3. It goes along with the idea of Mega server so each guild can have members in different server( world). This will also help to balance the user account on each server so that anet can add or merge servers according to the active player without worrying about the hassle of adding or removing servers. Right now I believe Blackgate has many people waiting in line to join the server while some server has lot of resource available.

4. If it is possible the EU server can merge with NA server so that anytime you jump in GvG (WvW) you will always find something going on.

Anet, please consider.

And I would like to hear anything that’s in favor or against this idea.

Imho, you’re attaching too much importance to the game name and what it should have to do with wvw.

Your idea, imo, would require an entire rework of wvw, which would not be a good thing for a game this old. Currently, they’re making much needed improvements to wvw, and the vast majority of players(according to their polls) approve of it. I see no reason to change the entire scope of wvw just because a very small portion of the playerbase doesn’t think the game title fits with what wvw currently is.

That would be like suggesting that a game like EvE Online should have more to do with the garden of eden because it would fit the title of the game better. Or Elder Scrolls Online should have more to do with ancient scrolls in the game due to the title.

Guild Wars 2 game title originated from the first one. It is just a game title.

Kittens online is all about the puppy’s.

IronHand.2786:

4. If it is possible the EU server can merge with NA server so that anytime you jump in GvG (WvW) you will always find something going on.

I really wish people would stop bring up this absolutely ridiculous and kittened idea, as if its something simple you can do with no consequences. It makes everyone lag. If the servers are in the US, EU players will have huge response times. If its in the EU, US players will have it instead. There is no way to make it good for both sides at the same time on the same server in a competetive PvP game. Game devs arent magicians that can bypass the laws of physics.

It’s called WvW, not GvG for a reason. Same reason it’s not called “Solo Roaming World”

atticus.5284:

It’s called WvW, not GvG for a reason. Same reason it’s not called “Solo Roaming World”

LOL… these guys are simply never gonna give up on their eternal quest to transform WvW into their own personal GvG arena… and to hell with all the casuals/pugs that don’t fit in. You see their insidious plotting in other topics too, such as the “we want hidden commander tags !” threads that occasionally pop up. :-D

Hexalot.8194:

atticus.5284:

It’s called WvW, not GvG for a reason. Same reason it’s not called “Solo Roaming World”

LOL… these guys are simply never gonna give up on their eternal quest to transform WvW into their own personal GvG arena… and to hell with all the casuals/pugs that don’t fit in. You see their insidious plotting in other topics too, such as the “we want hidden commander tags !” threads that occasionally pop up. :-D

Those doing swarm coliding arent even doig GvG, just blob spamming , to see who owns by spamming more waterfield and red circles….

GvG wasnt about that :|

How many times do people try to relate Guildwars name to Guild versus Guild. Guildwars is lore based on past events. https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

… and GvG in gw1 was legit.

This modern day 15-20 person blob that never splits and just rams into each other … is not legit. It’s the outcome of dropping the monk, and trying to make up for it with sheer numbers.

Quantity (gw2 gvg) versus Quality (gw1 gvg)… two different styles. Every time I watch GvG in this game I think how easy people got it.

The closest thing I’ve seen to legit GvG is stronghold with 3 lanes, and the goal to kill the lord. No flag running required.

I personally would prefer they just came up with a GvG system like they had in GW1. I have wanted this since day one of GW2. That system was great, had it’s own maps, it had alliances with their own chat channel too. That is what they should do for GvG in GW2. WvW is its own game play and should remain that.

hmsgoddess.3869:

I personally would prefer they just came up with a GvG system like they had in GW1. I have wanted this since day one of GW2. That system was great, had it’s own maps, it had alliances with their own chat channel too. That is what they should do for GvG in GW2. WvW is its own game play and should remain that.

And that would make GvG system the only decent ganemode gw2 offers, if was similiar to gw1 with ladder and all the structure.
So they wont do that.

Make it GvG, or add a mode of GvG, lots of problem will disappear.

You don’t need to worry about the following:
world link rotation
transfer between world
world population
Alpine or Desert (like PvP, guild can select the map they like to join)

With the world link mechanism, it’s easy to change GvG.

Anyone remember the stronghold announcement when they kept calling it GvG? I guess that ideea got scrapped because they stopped calling it that…

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Anyone remember the stronghold announcement when they kept calling it GvG? I guess that ideea got scrapped because they stopped calling it that…

Stronghold is basically GvG though.

You also have obsidian sanctum to use if you want to do GvG’s. I have known a few guilds that have used this to do their GvG’s in

Nate.3927:

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Anyone remember the stronghold announcement when they kept calling it GvG? I guess that ideea got scrapped because they stopped calling it that…

Stronghold is basically GvG though.

In what way?

Just like Daoc , with only the top server that can access a specific dungeon , the same could aply here , with the single guild that has the most participation
can use their modified arenas (or paying 100g for renting a specific pvp mapor a copy of closedoff Obsidian Stanctume) as the main-map for the single-day-tournament after the WvWvW reset .

Edit: OR OTHER GUILDS CAN MODEL THEIR ARENAS AND TRADEMARK THEM , WHILEYOU CAN SPENT 100 GOLD AND TRANSFORM YOUR ARENA TO THEIR DESIGN (OR BUY FROMTHE GEMSTORE , ON THAT IS CREATED BY A DEV)

And a bottun (under the edge of the mist) so random ppl can travel there and spectate or bet

Edit: And a que for random ppl that wanna join some zerg vs zerg , and a pop up that will ask if you want to be the temponary commander (if no1 has the Pack Comander or normal Commander Tag)

Without guilds you have blobs, objective takers, ktrainers, roamers, duelers and defenders, which looks alright, but without guilds in wvw, most of wvw would feel empty, people would lose interest fast in wvw.

I don’t just mean gvg guilds, but even casual or semi hc wvw raid guilds, that keep wvw active, aswell as commanders, who tag up because they enjoy it.

A pug in a guild will almost always have a better experience than solo, while being able to learn about the game mode, whether they move to something more hardcore is up to them, but wvw needs guilds badly. When WvW had so many active Guilds, it was fun, just not the queues.

It means supporting GvG too, but that’s probably too late,.