Guild Wars 2

Most of what I hear in Blackgate chat is name calling or people telling other people to block someone. The way Blackgate leadership is organized for WvW is through 2 main guilds at night….and if you even attempt to lead….successful or not…and you are not in those guilds they will all permanently block you and they will spam to anyone that mentions your name in chat that you are a troll and need to be permanently blocked. If the person sticks up for you….their guild blocks them too. This did not just happen to me…its also happened to several of my friends who tried to lead raids as well. Blackgate is very political when it comes to how they operate in WvW.

If you ever fight Blackgate just keep in mind that the server has ZERO leadership until starting at around 6-8pm (central time) when the main 2 guilds start queing up. You can easily take their main keeps in the morning.

The more offensive you go against Blackgate the more they will fight in chat and block each other until there is often no communication at all.

I made the transfer to Dragonbrand and it is literally like night and day. They rarely argue…there is no dominant guilds demanding that you not talk in chat or be blocked for being an idiot for not agreeing with them. The entire community of the game has changed for me since the transfer.

Why the title for this post? Since I transferred several of my friends have transferred and since 2 of them were GM’s their guild has made the move with them.

It’s surprising how one server’s community can be so different from another server’s community.
-Kaide

So you transferred to the winning server congrats…lol Oh and DB has alot of oceanic players however that server gets wrecked at night..people havto work during the day I know some have a hard time understanding that people have lives outside of WvW…you wont be missed……….nice starter pads hahahahahha

Well nothing against BG at all except for the groups of cheaters. They do all of their progression at night. They make absolutely no headway at primetime, but they have 2 large guild who cap the empty points at night, which we take back between 9am est – 12pm est cause the one guild logs off
I have yet to see any blatent continuing fighting in chat on DB. We just kind of go in there and try to get it done

mangarrage.1062:

Well nothing against BG at all except for the groups of cheaters. They do all of their progression at night. They make absolutely no headway at primetime, but they have 2 large guild who cap the empty points at night, which we take back between 9am est – 12pm est cause the one guild logs off
I have yet to see any blatent continuing fighting in chat on DB. We just kind of go in there and try to get it done

Yeah those 2 guilds were the guilds I was talking about….they operate solely at night and run it like a dictatorship…its sad really.

Every server has cheater’s how is that hard to understand every server has whiners like op…how is that hard to understand? Sorry had to chime in the QQ post are to easy lollll

Clexzor.6351:

So you transferred to the winning server congrats…lol Oh and DB has alot of oceanic players however that server gets wrecked at night..people havto work during the day I know some have a hard time understanding that people have lives outside of WvW…you wont be missed……….nice starter pads hahahahahha

um no we dont have alot of oceanic players which is why we get points taken on us at night.
Hard to use the term wrecked when you take empty points but hey w/e floats your boat

oh and btw what guilds transferred?

Clexzor.6351:

Every server has cheater’s how is that hard to understand every server has whiners like op…how is that hard to understand? Sorry had to chime in the QQ post are to easy lollll

Not whining Im just informing people of the WvW situation on BG in case they are unaware. I personally would never transfer to a server that has 2 guilds running the show and blocks anyone else who tries to help. But thats just me….maybe you like being controlled.

Clexzor,

Did DB win or lose the initial Friday night primetime push when the match started?

What are the two wvw guilds you mentioned on Blackgate?

Monsoon.2589:

What are the two wvw guilds you mentioned on Blackgate?

Oozo.7856:

Clexzor,

Did DB win or lose the initial Friday night primetime push when the match started?

Wouldn’t know I was working unlike most in here apparently…

Welcome to Dragonbrand,
look forward to killing with you in the field!
-Marrett

Wait wait, a server makes most of it’s progress during prime time? Woah….

Also Dragonbrand doesn’t argue because they’re winning. When they lose it’s going to be a different story, trust me.

Good job transfering to a server that’s winning. You do realize you are the reason for server pop imbalances. So thanks for being part of the problem.

uneditedbrute.8136:

Welcome to Dragonbrand,
look forward to killing with you in the field!
-Marrett

Wow…Thank you. They would never say something that nice if you transferred to Blackgate. They’d say “Welcome to Blackgate….now get in line….you’ll make a fine slave”

Kam.8109:

Wait wait, a server makes most of it’s progress during prime time? Woah….

Also Dragonbrand doesn’t argue because they’re winning. When they lose it’s going to be a different story, trust me.

Good job transfering to a server that’s winning. You do realize you are the reason for server pop imbalances. So thanks for being part of the problem.

Most the arguing ive seen on DB is when we dont have a commander online leading and the commander that is in the battle just bought the rank for the icon and tittle.

Kaine.3501:

Clexzor.6351:

Oozo.7856:

Clexzor,

Did DB win or lose the initial Friday night primetime push when the match started?

Wouldn’t know I was working unlike most in here apparently…

Clexzor only WvW’s at night with his boys from KnT

I guess he is saying that DB won the Friday night primetime fight only because his server was at work.. on Friday night… during primetime.

Oozo.7856:

Clexzor,

Did DB win or lose the initial Friday night primetime push when the match started?

I logged on at around 10pm Mountain Time and I’m pretty sure DB was winning and FA was second. I just logged in to check the score and didn’t play until Sunday.

Kam.8109:

Wait wait, a server makes most of it’s progress during prime time? Woah….

Also Dragonbrand doesn’t argue because they’re winning. When they lose it’s going to be a different story, trust me.

Good job transfering to a server that’s winning. You do realize you are the reason for server pop imbalances. So thanks for being part of the problem.

We got smoked by JQ and I don’t remember a whole lot of arguing. Of course there is some kittening, but not a lot to make me notice and I saw nothing about it on the forums. I did however see a lot of kittening on the forums from TC and Mags a couple weeks ago.

The main 2 Guilds running Blackgates WvW at night have stated multiple times that SM is useless. The only times i remember controlling SM is when I led a group to capture it 2 days ago from the South East Wall using 4 Trebs we had set up at Quenten Lake…..and when I logged in last night we had it. The rest of the time it seems DB controlled.

Who has a larger population….Dragonbrand or Blackgate?

Welcome to Dragonbrand.

DB has a great community and it makes WvW a lot of fun, even if we are losing. Our Queue times are short too!

I noticed BG having serious issues on Friday and Saturday. I got the feeling from BG that groups of people hated each other and refused to work together. Multiple times they attacked 2-3 different outer gates on BG garrison, at the same time! Then break in and wipe at different times. It was really sad. (this went on for 8 hours) Glad to see people got fed up with that kitten and looked for greener pastures.

Come to scenic Maguuma, where our WvW community shares a 200 man Mumble server with a friendly atmosphere.

While you’re at it, here’s a Maguuma WvW guild to join: http://mistguard.org

Kaine.3501:

Monsoon.2589:

What are the two wvw guilds you mentioned on Blackgate?

<Expletus> and <Overkill>

Hi, I am Valkyrja Flame of the Blackgate server. I am one of our night-time Commanders from the guild RageQuit Inc [RQ], which is an international guild. I have not been online this past half week due to some RL reasons (will be on tonight though), but we spearhead the Borderlands night-time presence since that is when most of us are back from work ([RQ]’s other Commander, The Champ, is also in the same timezone as me). The other large night-time guild with a presence on the Borderlands is [Urge], an Oceanic guild lead by Choco Eclair. I am not too familiar with Eternal Battlegrounds but [RQ] third Commander, Iifa, usually leads that, and I know the guild [BBB] has a huge presence there as well. There are numerous other sizable guilds with a strong WvW presence as well, which you can find a partial list at http://www.blackgatewvw.com/alliance/

Blackgate does have an organizational WvW council, called the Blackgate War Council. We also host a community Mumble (1000-slot) as well as new forums that just went up a few days ago. Our community website is at http://www.blackgatewvw.com/ . Our council, while young and still in the process of brushing up and sorting itself out, operates similar to an open democracy. There is no intention of running any dictatorship-style operation, especially considering that we all recognize that Blackgate consists of multiple small guilds and the key to winning is working together and coordinating the WvW effort (preferrably over Mumble).

Back to the original post, as an active WvW Commander, I have never seen nor heard of either of those formentioned guilds, <Expletus> and <Overkill> (unless they suddenly appeared this matchup and strutted in demanding attention). I also do not see them on the alliance list at http://www.blackgatewvw.com/alliance/ . While I cannot represent them due to that fact, I can apologize on behalf of the organized WvW guilds of Blackgate for your bad experience. When you are on a losing server, tensions often run high and it’s natural for players to digress into arguing over pointless things over map chat (name-calling, personal attacks, general trolling, etc.). If a Commander or other mature leadership figures aren’t online at that time to help sort things out, bad experiences like yours could happen. As our alliance slowly grows and gains more experience with things such as balancing out coverage, I believe this will become less of an issue. Personally, as an [RQ] Commander, I always openly listen to the voices of my fellow server members as I recognize that we are just a small part of the larger Beast, and to win, we must work together and coordinate.

There’s a saying, “when the going gets tough, the tough gets going”. We at Blackgate disagree with that statement. When we’re winning, we keep on pushing. When we’re losing, we still keep on pushing. As [ELITE]‘s leader from HoD server once described us, we are the server that just doesn’t give up. That is what earned us the nickname “Beastgate” and it is one characteristic that we will continue being known for.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

Blackgate also has a great community. You always have d.er.ps who grief a server and I doubt this is a Blackgate only issue. Also I have never had any issues with the leaders at night and instead can vouch that the Blue Doritos I have seen in the last 10 days are actually very competent…none of that ‘slave’ stuff mentioned.

I think this is an attempt at disinformation to move people from BG to DB.

Actually Blackgate has an incredible community, I dont see the need for this smear campaign which most of it isnt even true

Merrill.3540:

Welcome to Dragonbrand.

DB has a great community and it makes WvW a lot of fun, even if we are losing. Our Queue times are short too!

I noticed BG having serious issues on Friday and Saturday. I got the feeling from BG that groups of people hated each other and refused to work together. Multiple times they attacked 2-3 different outer gates on BG garrison, at the same time! Then break in and wipe at different times. It was really sad. (this went on for 8 hours) Glad to see people got fed up with that kitten and looked for greener pastures.

This is spot on.

2 guilds are fighting for control and block everyone that is not in those 2 guilds. So if you were getting hit from 3 spots it was probably one guild going one side, the other guild the other side (trying to prove a point)…..and a broken down waterfall of communication making it to the people who just read chat and all they see is “we are attacking X” with no directions from what side. I’ve spammed chat multiple times trying to get us all on one side because the 2 guilds do not like to give out information in chat where they are going.

he’s some where around lv 10 and never lv up his char and spend most of time whining in WvW

actually we are happy and he’s gone

Monsoon.2589:

Blackgate also has a great community. You always have d.er.ps who grief a server and I doubt this is a Blackgate only issue. Also I have never had any issues with the leaders at night and instead can vouch that the Blue Doritos I have seen in the last 10 days are actually very competent…none of that ‘slave’ stuff mentioned.

I think this is an attempt at disinformation to move people from BG to DB.

If BG is so good…..why are they in last place?

keripo.6842, oh you’re from RQ? Then maybe you could talk to epiks who is also in your guild and is one of three or four people who constantly takes supply from the tower and keep depots despite being told not to do it so they can be upgraded. that’d be awesome.

OP, I’m disappointed in you. Running away to the enemy. BG has a great community. There are always bad apples in any server, but running away doesn’t solve anything.

Keripo.6842:

Kaine.3501:

Monsoon.2589:

What are the two wvw guilds you mentioned on Blackgate?

<Expletus> and <Overkill>

Hi, I am Valkyrja Flame of the Blackgate server. I am one of our night-time Commanders from the guild RageQuit Inc [RQ], which is an international guild. I have not been online this past half week due to some RL reasons (will be on tonight though), but we spearhead the Borderlands night-time presence since that is when most of us are back from work ([RQ]’s other Commander, The Champ, is also in the same timezone as me). The other large night-time guild with a presence on the Borderlands is [Urge], an Oceanic guild lead by Choco Eclair. I am not too familiar with Eternal Battlegrounds but [RQ] third Commander, Iifa, usually leads that, and I know the guild [BBB] has a huge presence there as well. There are numerous other sizable guilds with a strong WvW presence as well, which you can find a partial list at http://www.blackgatewvw.com/alliance/

Blackgate does have an organizational WvW council, called the Blackgate War Council. We also host a community Mumble (1000-slot) as well as new forums that just went up a few days ago. Our community website is at http://www.blackgatewvw.com/ . Our council, while young and still in the process of brushing up and sorting itself out, operates similar to an open democracy. There is no intention of running any dictatorship-style operation, especially considering that we all recognize that Blackgate consists of multiple small guilds and the key to winning is working together and coordinating the WvW effort (preferrably over Mumble).

Back to the original post, as an active WvW Commander, I have never seen nor heard of either of those formentioned guilds, <Expletus> and <Overkill> (unless they suddenly appeared this matchup and strutted in demanding attention). I also do not see them on the alliance list at http://www.blackgatewvw.com/alliance/ . While I cannot represent them due to that fact, I can apologize on behalf of the organized WvW guilds of Blackgate for your bad experience. When you are on a losing server, tensions often run high and it’s natural for players to digress into arguing over pointless things over map chat (name-calling, personal attacks, general trolling, etc.). If a Commander or other mature leadership figures aren’t online at that time to help sort things out, bad experiences like yours could happen. As our alliance slowly grows and gains more experience with things such as balancing out coverage, I believe this will become less of an issue. Personally, as an [RQ] Commander, I always openly listen to the voices of my fellow server members as I recognize that we are just a small part of the larger Beast, and to win, we must work together and coordinate.

There’s a saying, “when the going gets tough, the tough gets going”. We at Blackgate disagree with that statement. When we’re winning, we keep on pushing. When we’re losing, we still keep on pushing. As [ELITE]‘s leader from HoD server once described us, we are the server that just doesn’t give up. That is what earned us the nickname “Beastgate” and it is one characteristic that we will continue being known for.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

I would bet that the reason you guys have never heard of other guilds outside of the ones you mentioned…to the point that you have to look them up…is because you have them blocked. And I’ve yet to be in any guild thats part of this “Blackgate Alliance” however if there is an Alliance and there are ranks as you put it so mildly…no wait you boasted about your rank….then I can guarantee there is a hierarchy when it comes to WvW and I’m pretty sure that anyone not involved in that hierarchy is irrelevant.

First of all I have never even seen those 2 guilds in WvW so I think you got the wrong guilds, or you were blocked by people who do not matter that much.

Second Clexzor is not in KnT so someone got that wrong.

Valkyrja Flame [RQ] please dont put that site or those forums on any public information, they make us look bad, charla tan hired an 8 year old to make that site, its so ugly makes me want to puke, we gotta do better.

Hi,

All drama not withstanding and with the caveat that I am speaking on behalf of my server , Dragonbrand has nasty queues for WVW when it counts ( Friday, Saturday / Primetime ). Please don’t recruit for us, we are fine. If it’s not working for you all on BG, try one of the lower population servers who are actively recruiting. I am sure they would welcome positive, result oriented players like yourself.

-Mort

I play on BlackGate. I play almost exclusively W3. There is no such thing as what the OP is posting. It frankly does not exist so I can only assume this is a smear campaign with the probable backing of some kittens on Dragonsbane.
A sad attempt to feed from a server at that. For your information Henge already took the fickle from Blackgate guys, you’re wasting your time.

Tripp.9862:

OP, I’m disappointed in you. Running away to the enemy. BG has a great community. There are always bad apples in any server, but running away doesn’t solve anything.

Enemy? No ….DB greeted me with open arms…..BG is the enemy. And with the people who transferred with me we will make sure tonight to bury them for good measure. We won’t even attack FA….my friends and I will spend every night trying to figure out how to burn BG into the ground. Get ready for the massive amount of Trebs firing your way….

Last night Blackgate’s leadership was a mess.

Keripo’s right, I think [URGE] and [RQ] are the only guilds with commanders, and are the only people that seem able to get zerg’s organized. The commanders are competent.

I agree with Kaine’s setiments on wishing there were more, and more inclusive, guilds on BG. I was on the BG community mumble over the weekend to get better comms and it was about 90% Urge & Rage Quit and full of Jr. high school level gay and kitten jokes. After a few hours I couldn’t stand it, which is saying a lot since I’m not exactly the most mature person in the world. It was easier to contribute by disconnecting from mumble and following the map’s blue Dorito.

Hux,

DB doesn’t need any more primetime guilds. Sounds like a plot by your server to clog up our queues.

However, DB IS seeking organized oceanic guilds to flesh out our already outstanding off-hours teams.

lol, check this guy out, he moves to their server, that has been at least 10k points ahead all weekend, and its gonna be 100% his handful of scrubs that owns us tonight, omg im so scared.

Dragonbrand guys you really want this clown representing you?

My block list has been empty since launch and I’m pretty sure I clearly stated that there are no ranks in our alliance system…

At this point, I’m pretty sure the posters in this thread are either just having fun trolling or have already jumped ships and are trying to dirty-propaganda up these forums. Back to work for me, no point feeding the trolls.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

Punny.9210:

he’s some where around lv 10 and never lv up his char and spend most of time whining in WvW

actually we are happy and he’s gone

in my exp. low lvl players are like wet clay. you can either help to mold them into something great or let them sit and dry into a pile or crap. As well usually the Whining goes away when someone feels included.

Keripo.6842:

My block list has been empty since launch and I’m pretty sure I clearly stated that there are no ranks in our alliance system…

At this point, I’m pretty sure the posters in this thread are either just having fun trolling or have already jumped ships and are trying to dirty-propaganda up these forums. Back to work for me, no point feeding the trolls.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

Did you see the thread about one of your members taking supply from keeps? Not sure if that thread was here or on GW2Guru.

Hux.8739:

I play on BlackGate. I play almost exclusively W3. There is no such thing as what the OP is posting. It frankly does not exist so I can only assume this is a smear campaign with the probable backing of some kittens on Dragonsbane.
A sad attempt to feed from a server at that. For your information Henge already took the fickle from Blackgate guys, you’re wasting your time.

My main characters are Kaide and Caide…and they were on Blackgate. I’m sure you’ve seen me leading zergs on BG in Eternal. Trust me…I’m not from DB.

Aeden.5896:

Last night Blackgate’s leadership was a mess.

Keripo’s right, I think [URGE] and [RQ] are the only guilds with commanders, and are the only people that seem able to get zerg’s organized. The commanders are competent.

I agree with Kaine’s setiments on wishing there were more, and more inclusive, guilds on BG. I was on the BG community mumble over the weekend to get better comms and it was about 90% Urge & Rage Quit and full of Jr. high school level gay and kitten jokes. After a few hours I couldn’t stand it, which is saying a lot since I’m not exactly the most mature person in the world. It was easier to contribute by disconnecting from mumble and following the map’s blue Dorito.

This

Mulitplex.2017:

Keripo.6842:

My block list has been empty since launch and I’m pretty sure I clearly stated that there are no ranks in our alliance system…

At this point, I’m pretty sure the posters in this thread are either just having fun trolling or have already jumped ships and are trying to dirty-propaganda up these forums. Back to work for me, no point feeding the trolls.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

Did you see the thread about one of your members taking supply from keeps? Not sure if that thread was here or on GW2Guru.

No she didn’t. She has you blocked!

Ah well… was hoping they would address it publicly so that DB would stop getting blamed for X-Realming and sabotage.

Mulitplex.2017:

Keripo.6842:

My block list has been empty since launch and I’m pretty sure I clearly stated that there are no ranks in our alliance system…

At this point, I’m pretty sure the posters in this thread are either just having fun trolling or have already jumped ships and are trying to dirty-propaganda up these forums. Back to work for me, no point feeding the trolls.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

Did you see the thread about one of your members taking supply from keeps? Not sure if that thread was here or on GW2Guru.

Yes, we’ll ask him about it (I’m not a guild officer or anything, but this is something pretty basic we’d expect all our members to know). There’s always the odd member who auto-pilots and forgets or just isn’t aware. I personally have been away from the game since last Thursday so just catching up right now. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

I can’t speak for the WvW crowd as I haven’t played it in a week (busy getting armor).

However, yesterday there were a few people in Blackgates’ Lions Arch ‘recruiting’ people for WvW.

And by recruiting, I mean telling everyone that doesn’t WvW to leave the server and to quit freeloading. Yep.

I love WvW, and during beta/early start I really liked the people in WvW. However, the name…‘beastgate’…ugh, its just asking to attract a bunch of immature high school kids.

(Note: There are plenty of mature high school students. But that name isn’t going to attract them).

Beastgate? kinky, does farmer john get his own sheep?

It’s never about a server when it comes to exploiting, it’s individuals. It’s always a grand generalization made to influence weak minded people. Kinda like what the OP is trying to achieve, right ;P

Take it easy guy, you just are as persuasive as Mitt Romney. Second layer deep… sinking in… now you get it.