How does scaling works in WvW?

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Posted by: leonardoraele.3725

leonardoraele.3725

Today I was playing WvW with my friend, I was using a Lv23 Thief while he was using his Lv52 Thief. After some time we realize I was causing a lot more damage then he was. We both were using Dagger/Dagger & Short Bow. Testing the damage against a Moa we notice I was causing 380~ damage and 640~ when crit; and he was causing 240~ damage and 420~ on critical.

But, why?? We compared our attributes and I had more HP, more Power and more Armor then him, while the only attribute he had more then me was his critical chance. (which does not compensate, because my non-critical attack is almost equivalent to his critical attack)

If his level is greater, his equipments are better and he has more unlocked traits(invested in the same trait lines), why I am stronger then him? This makes nosense to me!

EDIT: I was using level 14~16 gear and level 20 weapon(almost all equips with +power). He was using level 3x gear(not sure about bonuses).

(edited by leonardoraele.3725)

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Posted by: Shinzou.1534

Shinzou.1534

Was your gear good for your level? Was his?

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Posted by: leonardoraele.3725

leonardoraele.3725

I was using level 14~16 gear and level 20 weapon(almost all equips with +power). He was using level 3x gear(not sure about bonuses).

(Edited post with this)

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Posted by: Enenion.8127

Enenion.8127

WvW level scaling is interesting because it bases your stats on the max stats for your level at any one time. That means, if you’re level 5 and you just upgraded to level 5 weapons and armor, you may just be doing more damage than a level 10 with level 5 weapons and armor. That is because you are closer to the maximum stats you can possibly attain than the level 10 is. Now keep in mind that armor and weapon upgrades are available roughly every 5 levels, and if you don’t upgrade you are actually getting weaker each time you level up because you are getting further and further away from your possible maximum.

Here’s where is gets interesting. After a certain level, new item rarities open up with much better stats than before. At level 60, that set of masterwork items you were so proud of before is going to be hurting you because you could be wearing rares, so that’s the new stat limit the game is comparing you to. So though your friend has better gear than you stat wise, his gear is much farther away from the possible maximum of his class at that level (your gear is 2-3 levels behind your level while his is 20ish levels behind) which is why he’s doing less damage.

[Help],
Fort Aspenwood

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Posted by: leonardoraele.3725

leonardoraele.3725

So the more you level up the more weak you get? Until you became able to get better equipment(which will become each time more difficult to get) and return to your “normal”. What is the point on this? =/ It makes me fell bad for leveling up…

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Posted by: trapline.8541

trapline.8541

In a weird way it keeps the playing field more even so new wvw player’s aren’t getting one shot

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Posted by: Enenion.8127

Enenion.8127

As you level up your maxium points in each stat also go up. So a level 80 will have a much higher maximum possible power/vitality/etc than a level 1. That means that as long as you keep your gear up to date you will get stronger as you level. Not keeping your gear up to date though results in you falling behind the curve and doing less damage than you would otherwise.

So using you and your friend as an example: A level 23 person with gear 2-3 levels behind is going to be more powerful than a level 52 person with gear 20+ levels behind. However, a level 52 person with gear 2-3 levels behind will be considerably more powerful than a level 23 person with gear 2-3 levels behind. That also means that a fully geared level 80 is much much stronger than a level 1 even if the level 1 has max stat gear for his level (not counting the obvious advantages of having more skills and traits).

[Help],
Fort Aspenwood

(edited by Enenion.8127)

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Posted by: Spineless.6917

Spineless.6917

Just buy all blues every 5 levels and your stats will be 2/3 to max all of the time. Gear 5 levels or more below your level gives you a penalty in wvw.

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Posted by: R E F L H E X.8413

R E F L H E X.8413

Until it scales armor and weapons like spve it’s not even playing fields. Funny to think so actually.

I must’ve missed the sign that said it was a fire sale.