Used to strictly solo roam in WvW. Took a year break, came back very excited to play wvw. Not so much anymore, these maps are not the fond maps I remember, but large, vast, confusing, and very drawn out maps that offer nobody to fight in sight. Anet, what have you done? BL maps should be smaller, allows for more action. Leave the large maps to EOTM/EB.
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But I definitively agree that Desert BL should be a Desert BG (Battle Ground) map instead. So the size would make more sense, and there isn’t 3 copies of the same map. The WP system seems to encourage that same idea. Don’t hate the map, think it is a nice change of pace, but I also want Alpine back so I can play on whichever map I want.
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gog.com is dangerous, I’ve wasted way too many paychecks there -_-’ have a backlog the size of every change log in gw2 since release… (slightly exaggerated)
But I definitively agree that Desert BL should be a Desert BG (Battle Ground) map instead. So the size would make more sense, and there isn’t 3 copies of the same map. The WP system seems to encourage that same idea. Don’t hate the map, think it is a nice change of pace, but I also want Alpine back so I can play on whichever map I want.
The borderland’s system must die.
LOL I feel ya. I bought witcher 3 and Victor Vran today. Rather give gog my money than anet. The sales this week are pretty awesome.
Putting the desert BLs in the eotm system would make more sense to me, alpine was simple and promoted more fights IMO.
Used to strictly solo roam in WvW. Took a year break, came back very excited to play wvw. Not so much anymore, these maps are not the fond maps I remember, but large, vast, confusing, and very drawn out maps that offer nobody to fight in sight. Anet, what have you done? BL maps should be smaller, allows for more action. Leave the large maps to EOTM/EB.
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Ye and when you go away for another year break, we will be stuck with the maps you forced them to implement. Great forum-work from the people who won’t play the maps anyway.
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What tier are you on? I imagine the loss of roaming quality is more due to the lack of population than any inherent flaw in the maps. With the exception of north camp, the run times from corner spawns are no more than 30 seconds longer.
The new maps are no where near as bad as people make them out to be. Ofc at first it was a bit a shock and I wasn’t that impressed with the size or the gimmicks in it but time does help you over come it. Quite enjoying roaming now (not solo, 2-5 people)
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The new maps are no where near as bad as people make them out to be. Ofc at first it was a bit a shock and I wasn’t that impressed with the size or the gimmicks in it but time does help you over come it. Quite enjoying roaming now (not solo, 2-5 people)
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I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.
to be fair the new maps are kind of cool, in an artistic way – but the size of that map calls for a lot more players from different servers that very few can fill. I can see where the developers were going with this, for large population servers, I can see how big fights in the desert would be full of surprises and strategies. but to a smaller server it feels more like a vast pve wasteland / desert with less population.
it’s more like an open pvp town – than a strategic / competitive map. – which is what makes the 1st map so valuable to smaller servers.
I think even the pve side of things went through that too, the events are fun, but since most maps are always empty, its not what most consider casual friendly. – solo roaming is a big part of the game that suffered with hot, in both pvp and pve simply because it was designed for a much larger population.
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The new maps are no where near as bad as people make them out to be. Ofc at first it was a bit a shock and I wasn’t that impressed with the size or the gimmicks in it but time does help you over come it. Quite enjoying roaming now (not solo, 2-5 people)
pff. not quite the same lol. you can ignore said guy, or you can adapt and accept the new map.
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Solo roaming at the very least is absolutely dead. Roaming over all is not, just that most people are in groups of between 3 and 6, which is in part why solo roaming is dead.
The size of the new borderland, the size of the groups most people roll in, structure defenses post HoT, sentry tracking and specialization power creep have pretty much obliterated solo roaming. Unless you’re a Dare Devil or a Scrapper, you’ll just get ganked constantly and will have nothing you can at least attempt to capture because it takes forever to solo upgraded towers now.
The stubborn ones like myself still roam alone. I’ll find the odd good fight but it’s hardly worth the frustration of all the deaths I suffer in the process. It’s just unfortunate that I dislike roaming with others and that roaming is my favorite thing to do in WvW because if you’re alone you won’t live long. Seems like 90% of the time you find a good 1v1/2 more people sprout out of the ground like weeds and you just get overwhelmed or zerged.
The new maps are no where near as bad as people make them out to be. Ofc at first it was a bit a shock and I wasn’t that impressed with the size or the gimmicks in it but time does help you over come it. Quite enjoying roaming now (not solo, 2-5 people)
The so called roaming you refer to, is killing NPCs alone on deserted maps. Why not just go kill mobs in tyria or the new PvE maps? Why need WvW for that? The new maps are an incredibly poor piece of work that discourage fun. Artwork alone is not good enough for a game and this is a great example of such a failure. Sure, good work by design team but functionally these maps are utter garbage.
Roaming in T1 on EBG is very much alive. I do it pretty much every night and have constant fights. Sure the fights often escalate into more players but that has always been the case in my experience.
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Solo roaming at the very least is absolutely dead. Roaming over all is not, just that most people are in groups of between 3 and 6, which is in part why solo roaming is dead.
The size of the new borderland, the size of the groups most people roll in, structure defenses post HoT, sentry tracking and specialization power creep have pretty much obliterated solo roaming. Unless you’re a Dare Devil or a Scrapper, you’ll just get ganked constantly and will have nothing you can at least attempt to capture because it takes forever to solo upgraded towers now.
The stubborn ones like myself still roam alone. I’ll find the odd good fight but it’s hardly worth the frustration of all the deaths I suffer in the process. It’s just unfortunate that I dislike roaming with others and that roaming is my favorite thing to do in WvW because if you’re alone you won’t live long. Seems like 90% of the time you find a good 1v1/2 more people sprout out of the ground like weeds and you just get overwhelmed or zerged.
While blobby roamers have been a thing, I believe that solo roamers are less common for an additional reason. That is, the game has become so pointless that the only reason some people even log in is to play with friends, hence the group roamers.
gog.com is dangerous, I’ve wasted way too many paychecks there -_-’ have a backlog the size of every change log in gw2 since release… (slightly exaggerated)
My credit union will not allow any purchases to the country that gog.com is located in since they are very well known for stealing id’s. Not that gog.com does that but the country itself has major problems with ID stealing so to stop any problems they stop any payments to well known places.
I was also playing an online real time war game (based in Germany) a few years ago and went to buy coin, I had to call my credit union for them to go ahead with the payment to take the block off since it was going from US to Germany.
The new maps are no where near as bad as people make them out to be. Ofc at first it was a bit a shock and I wasn’t that impressed with the size or the gimmicks in it but time does help you over come it. Quite enjoying roaming now (not solo, 2-5 people)
pff. not quite the same lol. you can ignore said guy, or you can adapt and accept the new map.
It’s exactly the same except you change the person with a map. “Time helps you over come it” – You said it yourself lol
I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.
The new maps are no where near as bad as people make them out to be. Ofc at first it was a bit a shock and I wasn’t that impressed with the size or the gimmicks in it but time does help you over come it. Quite enjoying roaming now (not solo, 2-5 people)
pff. not quite the same lol. you can ignore said guy, or you can adapt and accept the new map.
Why should we have to accept terrible design and mechanics? I paid for this game and for the expansion, I’d quite like my money’s worth rather than settling for something I currently hate.
Solo roaming on the BLs is pretty much all I do. Judging by the number of enemy solo roamers I run into, it’s very much alive.
I rarely meet solo roamers if I’m on the new BLs – So yes, even though I have always been mostly on EB (except for camp capping marathons which I miss actually), the DBLs just have too much stuff that annoys me, like the barricades, like the shrines on 3 layers and around the corner and the weird camps that don’t make too much sense.
Lol play a different game then. I prefer the old maps just like everyone else does. But we won’t get them back so just get on with it.
Roaming on bl does work if you knock on enemy keeps, and belive it or not, real players not npcs come. if defenders come then we get fights but I agree it’s no where as busy as it use to be back in the old days.
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Lol play a different game then. I prefer the old maps just like everyone else does. But we won’t get them back so just get on with it.
Roaming on bl does work if you knock on enemy keeps, and belive it or not, real players not npcs come. if defenders come then we get fights but I agree it’s no where as busy as it use to be back in the old days.
“Lol play a different game then” No. That logic doesn’t work, it doesn’t get you what you want. Why would you settle for something like that when you have Anet finally asking us for advice, willing to listen to us? Asking us what we want to be done to revive WvW. That is exactly the last thing you should be saying right now.
Lol play a different game then. I prefer the old maps just like everyone else does. But we won’t get them back so just get on with it.
Roaming on bl does work if you knock on enemy keeps, and belive it or not, real players not npcs come. if defenders come then we get fights but I agree it’s no where as busy as it use to be back in the old days.
“Lol play a different game then” No. That logic doesn’t work, it doesn’t get you what you want. Why would you settle for something like that when you have Anet finally asking us for advice, willing to listen to us? Asking us what we want to be done to revive WvW. That is exactly the last thing you should be saying right now.
Theyve been asking that question for the past 3 years, every time players get excited and take the time to write up huge essays and eventually those players realise theyre being eternally led on.
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Theyve been asking that question for the past 3 years, every time players get excited and take the time to write up huge essays and eventually those players realise theyre being eternally led on.
ANet loves a good essay. Problem is they read the wrong ones.
The new maps are no where near as bad as people make them out to be. Ofc at first it was a bit a shock and I wasn’t that impressed with the size or the gimmicks in it but time does help you over come it. Quite enjoying roaming now (not solo, 2-5 people)
