Guild Wars 2

After looking at alot of other sub forums its clear to see that WvW is neglected in terms of getting any official responses.

I get the feeling they have the attitude that WvW doesn’t matter as much as other parts of the game, however i know alot of people that purely play this game for WvW myself included.

Are we being ignored or are they simply not even checking what is being suggested/talked about here?

agree.. im really angry about this.. is a absurdity

They have addressed a lot of the complaints already. People just don’t like the answer they give so they continue to complain about it.

Nightcapping? Doing nothing
Cross region? Doing nothing
Rendering? They’re working on it
Class balance? It’s an ongoing process
Hacking? Report it, they’ll investigate
Ascended? Adding alternate means in which to obtain

youre wrong

they moderate posts very fast so they must be here

Peetee.9406:

They have addressed a lot of the complaints already. People just don’t like the answer they give so they continue to complain about it.

Nightcapping? Doing nothing
Cross region? Doing nothing
Rendering? They’re working on it
Class balance? It’s an ongoing process
Hacking? Report it, they’ll investigate
Ascended? Adding alternate means in which to obtain

- Throwing siege on a destructible wall often pushes the siege through the wall
- Superior siege despawns on any updates
- Enemy guards appear in claimed towers (this time around it’s happening at Durios !)
- South camps have invulnerability zones underneath the cliffs by legendary defenders

Those are all bugs, they don’t belong in WvW forum, they belong in the Bug Forum.

Peetee.9406:

Those are all bugs, they don’t belong in WvW forum, they belong in the Bug Forum.

And the fact that they have been around since game release and still aren’t fixed indicates that obviously the programmers don’t really give a kitten about WvW. They are small bugs that some intern should be able to fix.

Now that I think of it, I can think of two minor changes ANet has made in WvW to actually fix something:

- Patching the terrain by SE camp spawn that allowed people to get underneath the map
- Patching the terrain by Garrison to prevent mesmers from blinking around the gate at watergate

I guess maybe the map design team reads this forum. Hi map team!

Here is the single most successful aspect of their game and there is nothing planned to improve it at all.

Be nice for a little blog post or something. Just a post from some random guy called Habib last week about how he can’t fix culling, its too hard for him.

Here, I put all of the WvW bugs I know into a single thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Four-WvW-bugs/first#post821930

Put your support into it and let’s make them actually address this. Turning their focus on WvW will cause us to get more continued focus. If there are any minor bugs you know of that I missed, add them to the thread and I’ll put them in the OP once I confirm them.

Hello,

Our teams read this sub-forum very carefully every day, to gather your feedback and concerns.

However, due to the amount of threads & posts here, they can not answer to everyone or to every issues. But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

WvW is > tPvP.

Sorry but GW2: Battlefield edition to me isn’t that difficult. You’ll never face more than 4:1 odds in it. Facing 25:1 odds is a heck of a lot more difficult IMO.

Moderator.6837:

Hello,

Our teams read this sub-forum very carefully every day, to gather your feedback and concerns.

However, due to the amount of threads & posts here, they can not answer to everyone or to every issues. But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

Sorry, but what ur team DID to WvW ? Except removing orbs?
It would be cool to have a list o all the reports/feedback that the players did, and the REAL actions that you (anet) did…

The players got this feeling of being ignored, not due the fact that a lot of the posts here stay without an official answer… But especially due the absence of real updates/fixes in WvW .

Moderator.6837:

But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

A winkie-face doesn’t make us sure. The fact that a dev has told us more than a month ago that there are changes coming to WvW and they still haven’t been implemented is concerning (see thread titled “A Small Update”). The fact that basic WvW bugs aren’t being fixed is even more concerning. Vague posts and assurances aren’t sufficient right now.

zastari.1730:

Moderator.6837:

But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

A winkie-face doesn’t make us sure. The fact that a dev has told us more than a month ago that there are changes coming to WvW and they still haven’t been implemented is concerning (see thread titled “A Small Update”). The fact that basic WvW bugs aren’t being fixed is even more concerning. Vague posts and assurances aren’t sufficient right now.

Maybe because they decided to work on something big and awesome for WvW and release it all in one large update?

You have no idea what they’re doing so trying to incite panic and complaining all the time isn’t going to get you anywhere.

Yes, some stuff in WvW needs fixing, yes. Not much has changed in it since the game launched. You’re a fool to think they’re not working on it though. Just because they don’t actively post here constantly doesn’t mean they’re just sat on their kitten twiddling their thumbs.

Brunners.7251:

zastari.1730:

Moderator.6837:

But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

A winkie-face doesn’t make us sure. The fact that a dev has told us more than a month ago that there are changes coming to WvW and they still haven’t been implemented is concerning (see thread titled “A Small Update”). The fact that basic WvW bugs aren’t being fixed is even more concerning. Vague posts and assurances aren’t sufficient right now.

Maybe because they decided to work on something big and awesome for WvW and release it all in one large update?

You have no idea what they’re doing so trying to incite panic and complaining all the time isn’t going to get you anywhere.

Yes, some stuff in WvW needs fixing, yes. Not much has changed in it since the game launched. You’re a fool to think they’re not working on it though. Just because they don’t actively post here constantly doesn’t mean they’re just sat on their kitten twiddling their thumbs.

- Throwing siege on a destructible wall often pushes the siege through the wall
- Superior siege despawns on any patch updates
- Enemy guards appear in claimed towers (this time around it’s happening at Durios !)
- South camps have invulnerability zones underneath the cliffs by legendary defenders

Not actively fixing minor bugs that have been out since release looks a lot more like “sitting on their kitten twiddling their thumbs”

You have no idea how easy to fix those bugs are.

They might look simple to someone who doesn’t know how the game is built. IT could be those things break something else more important and they need to find a fix for the entire thing.

You have NO idea what they’re doing or how they’re working so why do you automatically jump to the negative?

Don’t forget the unlimited weapon siege exploit with 2 scheme never fix since the launch…

Brunners.7251:

You have NO idea what they’re doing or how they’re working so why do you automatically jump to the negative?

Because I’m tired of throwing trebs through keep walls. Also because I’m tired of 10 skillpoints of siege disappearing from Stonemist after yet another patch update without any kind of warning.

You’re right that I have no idea what they’re doing because, well, I haven’t seen any results. The only results I’ve seen were what I mentioned earlier — terrain changes to prevent circumventing keep walls.

Yeah well moaning on here isn’t doing anyone any good, is it?

You don’t know what they’re working on or what they’re doing.
You have no clue as to how simple or difficult those bugs are to fix.
You have no idea what the plan is for wvw.

So stop whining, it’s not getting anyone anywhere. To assume they’re not doing anything or ignoring wvw’ers is such an absurd conclusion.

EDIT: Also they nerfed the turtle tactic. So there’s something else.

Moderator.6837:

Hello,

Our teams read this sub-forum very carefully every day, to gather your feedback and concerns.

However, due to the amount of threads & posts here, they can not answer to everyone or to every issues. But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

Cute, but lying to your customers dont make you any more trustworthy, neither will it make the people that play this game for the WvW stop making posts here.

The only thing that will make people shut up is either solid info or actions ingame. 3 months into the game, and Arenanet has shown neither so far.

Brunners.7251:

Yeah well moaning on here isn’t doing anyone any good, is it?

You don’t know what they’re working on or what they’re doing.
You have no clue as to how simple or difficult those bugs are to fix.
You have no idea what the plan is for wvw.

So stop whining, it’s not getting anyone anywhere. To assume they’re not doing anything or ignoring wvw’ers is such an absurd conclusion.

EDIT: Also they nerfed the turtle tactic. So there’s something else.

The fact that they tell us NOTHING about future WvW updates, while they bring plenty of info about upcomming sPvP and PvE content tells me that we have nothing comming.

So far they have removed orbs and turtles. 2 things that didnt solve any issues, but instead rolled back the game.

The fact that they delayed that last reset with 1½ hour and didnt even care to inform anyone know about it, knowing that thousands of players were sitting around waiting for it shows how much they care. Even more when they during that same period made several tweets regarding pve kitten.

I don’t think it’s ignored. It is a bit disconcerting when it says PvP in the patch notes and it refers exclusively to sPvP changes, yet doesn’t affect WvW. Since when is WvW not PvP (PvDoor jokes aside)?

Regardless, when people joke you have to theorycraft the patch notes to figure out what actually is changed, it’s not good. It also gives the wrong impression about WvW compared to sPvP.

Roezz.5460:

[…]
Since when is WvW not PvP (PvDoor jokes aside)?
[…] .

W vs W = JQ

i had the hope that would be much! much! more, a brainstorm of infinite ideas could be aplied in the W vs W format.

well if you yell long enough for a good amount of time then someone will come and see whats all this fuss is about. Like it did with the Orbs. People yelled at the forums for weeks and they got removed.
I would call a-net slow at reacting to things. They have to come up faster with temp fixes like the orb removal.

@OP

You really didn’t spend much time in the Mesmer forum. I’ve seen Habib make posts in the WvW forum. They aren’t what I would say are frequent, but in the Mesmer forum. The Mesmer forum seems far more like a ghost town in comparison to the WvW. After hunting through the Mesmer forum there are from what I found 2 posts. One that was a transfer from another forum category and another about the Berserker damage nerf.

yeah. this place is more lavish than in comparison. However, I agree with the sentiment. ANet did say they wanted to be a lot closer to the community as that was the foundation of their game. Except there is little coming from the forum personal

This is not a suggestion sub forum.

“Problems” with pvp dynamics or anything are not to be put here in and will not be responded to. This is a discussion sub-forum.

Do not blame the moderators because you complain about the culling issues and thieves and all sorts of things in WvW. In this sub-forum, they are mostly looking for and deleting and removing trash and inappropriate talk.

Please take your suggestions to the suggestion sub-forum.

Smokee.1754:

Moderator.6837:

Hello,

Our teams read this sub-forum very carefully every day, to gather your feedback and concerns.

However, due to the amount of threads & posts here, they can not answer to everyone or to every issues. But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

Cute, but lying to your customers dont make you any more trustworthy, neither will it make the people that play this game for the WvW stop making posts here.

The only thing that will make people shut up is either solid info or actions ingame. 3 months into the game, and Arenanet has shown neither so far.

Brunners.7251:

Yeah well moaning on here isn’t doing anyone any good, is it?

You don’t know what they’re working on or what they’re doing.
You have no clue as to how simple or difficult those bugs are to fix.
You have no idea what the plan is for wvw.

So stop whining, it’s not getting anyone anywhere. To assume they’re not doing anything or ignoring wvw’ers is such an absurd conclusion.

EDIT: Also they nerfed the turtle tactic. So there’s something else.

The fact that they tell us NOTHING about future WvW updates, while they bring plenty of info about upcomming sPvP and PvE content tells me that we have nothing comming.

So far they have removed orbs and turtles. 2 things that didnt solve any issues, but instead rolled back the game.

The fact that they delayed that last reset with 1½ hour and didnt even care to inform anyone know about it, knowing that thousands of players were sitting around waiting for it shows how much they care. Even more when they during that same period made several tweets regarding pve kitten.

They HAVE told you stuff about WvW.

I remember very clearly them recently stating that they’re working very hard on big stuff for WvW and that everyone should be patient because they don’t want to promise anything before it’s ready.

They HAVE told you stuff about WvW.

I remember very clearly them recently stating that they’re working very hard on big stuff for WvW and that everyone should be patient because they don’t want to promise anything before it’s ready.

Ahh so they are working on “Big stuff”….very informative.

MoonSpell.4512:

Moderator.6837:

Hello,

Our teams read this sub-forum very carefully every day, to gather your feedback and concerns.

However, due to the amount of threads & posts here, they can not answer to everyone or to every issues. But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

Sorry, but what ur team DID to WvW ? Except removing orbs?
It would be cool to have a list o all the reports/feedback that the players did, and the REAL actions that you (anet) did…

The players got this feeling of being ignored, not due the fact that a lot of the posts here stay without an official answer… But especially due the absence of real updates/fixes in WvW .

If they had to answer every post here it would mean they wouldnt have time to code, let alone list all reactions to all possible feedback. There are people claiming something is OP while at the same time others are claiming its to weak, some report something is fine, others say it needs to be fixed.

Even if Anet had the time to read and listen to everything they could never agree or do what everyone said. And Im quite happy that they dont. All we can hope for is that we can give Anet some idea about what we want and what is going on that they might have missed.

I put more stock in the coders, whose livelyhood it is to make games, then I do in the opinions of the players. Before anyone feels insulted, I include myself amongst that player group.

I think they have been imformative so far.
Though, in order to keep us imformed & not feel abandoned, a constuctive monthly update on the progress toward player concerns would be nice.

ANet can make $$$ off of TPvP, what do you think they will pay more attention to? A bunch of people who play WvW and don’t have to pay money for rewards or the people who pay money to PvP?

Hmmmm?

We WvW players are an afterthought at this point.

A lot of commanders probably spent real money to get the hundred gold. It’s not like they don’t make money from us. Also, we all try multiple sets of gear to use in WvW. Buying gems and selling them is the fastest way to do that. WvW is a massive gold sink overall. You can make money doing it, but not as much money as you’d make if you stuck with pve. Capture a tower = 2 silver. Die once = 3s. Kill 10 players = make 0-2 badges. Flame ram = 6 badges. Alternative = 6s. Etc.

Problems:
Periodic lag during free trials/ events.
3s new build/auto-kick and losing siege.
Culling became an issue after the culling fix.
Throwing siege throw walls and doors.
Immunity walls.

Being out-manned could mean there’s 50 more players than your team of 10. This is handled in sPVP with auto-balancing (something people hate). In my opinion, for WvW, it should give the message: “Waiting for players” before letting more people in from a majority population server. The matching of certain teams vs each other is still way off. The larger zerg presence server always wins. Have it show # of free slots available on a map when you join a map or something.

Fixing WvW probally isnt that easy guys.

Got to remember that the classes and gear run from PVE rules meaning any changes will effect them and can cause double the work if done wrong, thusly halting progress on other issues. Simple code is buggy/exploitable code.

Creating and expanding maps takes time too due to needing balancing and a good amount of playtesting. This stuff isnt that simple espically when a game has three, almost equally, large aspects to them.

Moderator.6837:

Hello,

Our teams read this sub-forum very carefully every day, to gather your feedback and concerns.

However, due to the amount of threads & posts here, they can not answer to everyone or to every issues. But be sure that they are working very hard on this specific aspect of the game

Oh good, a canned response, from a moderator who has nothing to do with developing the game. I’m placated for another 3 months.

If they made a list of things they were working on, they would still get the same type of response. A dev could post his every move from the time he arrived at work till the time he left, and it wouldn’t be enough for some people.

The biggest hit was the attention to new PVE that drew WvW players out of the fight and has wrecked participation. Some of the higher tier servers haven’t had more than a 10 minute queue since the update.

They could have added WvW content alongside the update to draw players and keep them there, but apparently that wasn’t important.

“Adding brand new content to World vs. World as well as adding new reward progression.”

Hopefully this one is not like saying gw2 is not a gear grind game.

“Adding brand new content to World vs. World as well as adding new reward progression.”

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